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It enables you to put on standard Sony software on a Sony Xperia smartphone which has the boot loader unlocked.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...ocked-xperia-smartphones-video-beta-download/
For now it supports Xperia™ S, Xperia™ arc and Xperia™ arc S, but we plan to add support for more models going forward. At the moment, one software version is available for each supported phone, but our ambition is to offer a selection of software versions released for each phone. For example, this could mean that you can choose between GB and ICS releases.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PKSyZ2amVNY
this message is a good nows indeed ,maybe now dev use this to restore drm keys or BE .good work Sony
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Fantastic! Sony is doing good work here. I'm happy I choose an Xperia device.
We have at least three such threads.
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Hi all
I'm looking for a new phone and was going for the nexus 4 but the ZL seems to have slightly better specs (AND an sd card slot) for a slightly higher price (here in india nexus 4 is 28000 inr and ZL is 33000)
But the lack of ROMs is alarming......
Can xperia z roms run on zl? If so can kernels and mods too? I read somewhere that the two run on the same stock firmware so.......
tiru.adi13 said:
Hi all
I'm looking for a new phone and was going for the nexus 4 but the ZL seems to have slightly better specs (AND an sd card slot) for a slightly higher price (here in india nexus 4 is 28000 inr and ZL is 33000)
But the lack of ROMs is alarming......
Can xperia z roms run on zl? If so can kernels and mods too? I read somewhere that the two run on the same stock firmware so.......
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Having owned both, I would suggest you get the ZL. The ROMs are lacking because the phone hasn't been released in many countries yet. Even in India, its been but a month or so. Give it some time. And as for ROMs, a little surprise coming for all the ZL owners soon
EDIT: Oh and no, you can just flash Z roms on the ZL. But once ROMS are built for the Z, wouldnt be long before they are bought over to the ZL.
ROMs from the XZ are slowly being ported over to the ZL.
The camera fix for 4.2.2 just came out yesterday so you might want to try this ROM out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228436
It's pretty awesome.
Hey guys. Did you see Sony's details about KitKat? They said they were only mentioning the first few phones to get KitKat but do you think we'll get it in the new year? I remember past Sony updates did happen Dec-Feb.
http://www.sonyrumors.net/2013/11/06/kitkat-xperia-devices-features/
Sony News - On Jelly Bean 4.3 & Kit Kat 4.4…
If the Sony XPERIA M/Dual was to be upgraded to Android v4.4 [on paper] we'd have a very efficient phone.
Android v4.3 and Android v4.4 are about refining the existing implementation of Android.
It's just the number of little things like Miracast certification, OpenGL ES 3.0, optimised 2D rendering, memory optimisation and etc, that would make an already very competent phone a true delight to own.
I for one will be very interested to read where Sony decides to slot the XPERIA M regarding future Android OS updates, as Android v4.4 is really tailor make for such a device (as I read it)
The XPERIA L, XPERIA M and XPERIA C are all very conspicuous in their absence of any mention, regarded future Android upgrades.
There only problem for the big manufacturers is that revamping low-mid range phones with a streamlined version of android means they sell less because people change less often as their device that was on the way out now functions better than it did new.
I'm not really taking about the xperia M as this is still very new but I wouldn't be surprised if Sony only updated this years phones to 4.4. Tbh anything older probably has more dev work anyway so experienced users will get it via a ton instead of a don't release. Unfortunately we're probably low priority for Sony to update soon (all the flagships will come first) being a mid-low end phone and we also don't have substantial ROM support yet either to get it via CM or AOSP or Slimroms right now. It'll be interesting how it plays out and what we get when.
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As for the M not being mentioned, they did say that it is just the first wave of devices, not the last. For any of us that owned Xperia phones in the last few years, you will have seen that the more expensive devices tend to go first, it's not unusual.
Besides the M and Dual, there is the L and C. I would be stunned if these devices get left on 4.1-4.3. I'd be happy with KitKat. :victory:
looks like it will take long time for xperia m, first wave of xperia phone its for z series (from now on).. maybe next years we will get that feature and the only we can do now is just waiting
I think no one will you Stock when CM or AOSP arrives. So dont fuss on sony and dont make this discussion long.
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My friend got the Xperia Z months ago. I asked him did he have any custom ROMs. He said no and I asked why. He said that everything works great on his phone on stock firmware.
I've owned Xperia phones from every year. Every year I used custom ROMs. Until this year, that is. With the stock firmware on this phone, I have no desire to try custom ROMs. Now I understand what my friend meant.
Some of us like stock firmware. Plus, it's a bonus that you know you can send your phone for official repair and they won't reject it because you modified the phone.
I feel same for my xperia M not in the mood of customizing it yet
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My friend got the Xperia Z months ago. I asked him did he have any custom ROMs. He said no and I asked why. He said that everything works great on his phone on stock firmware.
I've owned Xperia phones from every year. Every year I used custom ROMs. Until this year, that is. With the stock firmware on this phone, I have no desire to try custom ROMs. Now I understand what my friend meant.
Some of us like stock firmware. Plus, it's a bonus that you know you can send your phone for official repair and they won't reject it because you modified the phone.
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I think you are missing one crucial point. That price difference between Z and M. The update support Z gets as compare to M is huge. Thats why custom roms are made. So if you want regular update get Z.
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No news, could still be good news.
Sony has started to identify potential Android upgrade paths on the software support pages for circa 2013 phones.
Again it is noted that all is quiet(22-NOV) on the XPERIA M front with no new information at this time.
Example of the Sony XPERIA SP Android upgrade path seen towards the bottom of the web page.
Extending Internal Memory on Xperia M dual
Guys, i need to extend my internal Memory in Sony Xperia M dual without rooting...Is there any possibilities there in order to play huge size games and also to store more apps on my SD card...
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Guys, i need to extend my internal Memory in Sony Xperia M dual without rooting...Is there any possibilities there in order to play huge size games and also to store more apps on my SD card...
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no...
y dontt u root the phone?
its easy to unroot[the warranty will not be void]
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Sony has started to identify potential Android upgrade paths on the software support pages for circa 2013 phones.
Again it is noted that all is quiet(22-NOV) on the XPERIA M front with no new information at this time.
Example of the Sony XPERIA SP Android upgrade path seen towards the bottom of the web page.
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I(not an informed rep) note the XPERIA M is the only Android device using the MSM8227 SoC that I can find... Oh dear.
Maybe Qualcomm will just bin any Android upgrade support, if it requires to much effort for so few Android devices..
This could mean the Sony XPERIA M may be one of the few phones not to advance beyond the Android version it was released on.
This is just something to think about as I'm NOT an engineer and so don't go running off waving your hands about screaming the sky is falling... it's just my observation and something to consider.
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You're just summoning another ****storm on the forums.
This post is inaccurate, to say at least, in its entirety, as the M model IS IN FACT getting Android 4.3 in the first quarter of 2014.
ToastnButter said:
You're just summoning another ****storm on the forums.
This post is inaccurate, to say at least, in its entirety, as the M model IS IN FACT getting Android 4.3 in the first quarter of 2014.
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? who said this? how do u know about update?
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? who said this? how do u know about update?
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I saw it on here.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...d-4-3-for-Xperia-M-T-E-Dual-More-392821.shtml
But according to this Xperia L should of recieved its 4.3 update or may be getting it soon (before 2014), but Sony's Official post never mentioned any update for the Xperia L.
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I saw it on here.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...d-4-3-for-Xperia-M-T-E-Dual-More-392821.shtml
But according to this Xperia L should of recieved its 4.3 update or may be getting it soon (before 2014), but Sony's Official post never mentioned any update for the Xperia L.
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DONT BELIEVE SOME SITES INFO...its the proven fake image..
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage...-4-3-for-Xperia-M-T-E-Dual-More-392821-2.jpg/
see the full image...
it shows the xperia sp no update lol....
it will get 4.3 and 4.4
and see V no update...but even it will get 4.3..
xperia L yes in q4 of 2013 ....lol sony doesnt even thinking of update for now...
and there are 2 xperia T in it..
the first one it states that the update will release on the 4th quarter whereas the last one states as No 4.3 release for Xperia T
Dr Goodvibes said:
Sony has started to identify potential Android upgrade paths on the software support pages for circa 2013 phones.
Again it is noted that all is quiet(22-NOV) on the XPERIA M front with no new information at this time.
Example of the Sony XPERIA SP Android upgrade path seen towards the bottom of the web page.
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My observation was not well received so I removed it.
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I hope that that poster didn't get away with it. That's ridiculous. Since when is it not possible to post an opinion/guess/observation?
Yep, any of us that have owned Xperia 2012/2013 devices may have noticed that mid-tier devices often do get upgrades to major Android revisions, just not the first batch, which makes sense. I think the M will get it, maybe March or so.
Dudes/Dudettes, we're all good.
I didn't really like my own comment that much anyway.
I just worded my retraction poorly and come across as a bit of a drama queen. Fixed it now.
We're in a highly speculate thread until Sony provides confirmation on the direction the XPERIA M will take, so we can except augments from all points of view.
The truth is out there, hopefully we'll know soon.
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I hope that that poster didn't get away with it. That's ridiculous. Since when is it not possible to post an opinion/guess/observation?
Yep, any of us that have owned Xperia 2012/2013 devices may have noticed that mid-tier devices often do get upgrades to major Android revisions, just not the first batch, which makes sense. I think the M will get it, maybe March or so.
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Dr Goodvibes said:
Dudes/Dudettes, we're all good.
I didn't really like my own comment that much anyway.
I just worded my retraction poorly and come across as a bit of a drama queen. Fixed it now.
We're in a highly speculate thread until Sony provides confirmation on the direction the XPERIA M will take, so we can except augments from all points of view.
The truth is out there, hopefully we'll know soon.
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guys Xperia M is not mid tier to sony..
for them 15000+ is mid tier..
if u see the list for update they has plan to update SP,T,TX,V
all are 15000+
they missed their J,miro...which 15000-
what i m saying is just dont have too much believe and get angry on sony,and dont believe the some sites info...
just wait for <1 year we can see whether SONY give or not giving the update to Xperia M..
but i hope they would alteast give any one update to M like 4.3 or 4.4 in future ... since they didnt update Xperia M to 4.2[maybe planning to jump version instead of wasting time in 4.2]
So what is the Xperia E? The E and M are definitely not even close in terms of specs.
Maybe it's market-dependent. I live in Europe. Here, roughly the prices are:
Xperia E- €60
Xperia M - €250
Xperia SP €350
Xperia Z - €500
The Xperia M is mid-tier in Europe. In no universe is a €250 phone budget. I cannot be sure of every maket outside Europe but I can be here.
p.s. The Xperia Go in 2013 was updated to JellyBean. That was mid-tier.
I know that the M struggled to get a place on XDA for a long time, it wasn't even indexed when it was put in here, so it was quite hard to find. Then a lot of dev work took off on other sites. That's a loss for XDA.
I just checked out the Xperia E. What do you know? It's not in the bin section. It has a place with the other phones. I cannot imagine that the M really has less activity than the E. The E is in economical terms, a budget device. The Xperia M is not. It is a mid-tier device. Now what? The screen isn't phablet size therefore it's not worthy?
I hope that when the decisions are made, an international perspective is taken. I know that the M has been released in the US, but it's used all over the world, as our users show. It's a global-release phone.
Does anyone know more about how this stuff is figured out?
I have previosly owned HTC Wildfire s, budget phone, but there are tons of customr roms, krenels, recovery and mod for it. I've switched to Xperia M now and really hope that support for this phone will go better Sorry for spelling mistakes, if there are ones...
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I know that the M struggled to get a place on XDA for a long time, it wasn't even indexed when it was put in here, so it was quite hard to find. Then a lot of dev work took off on other sites. That's a loss for XDA.
I just checked out the Xperia E. What do you know? It's not in the bin section. It has a place with the other phones. I cannot imagine that the M really has less activity than the E. The E is in economical terms, a budget device. The Xperia M is not. It is a mid-tier device. Now what? The screen isn't phablet size therefore it's not worthy?
I hope that when the decisions are made, an international perspective is taken. I know that the M has been released in the US, but it's used all over the world, as our users show. It's a global-release phone.
Does anyone know more about how this stuff is figured out?
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First of Sony xperia M hasn't struggle to make place on XDA, it just take couples of PMs to right people that's all(which i have done to get this forum). and regarding to development this device is new in the market as compare to E, So keep it quite and you will get tons of roms and kernels, you just need to wait
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First of Sony xperia M hasn't struggle to make place on XDA, it just take couples of PMs to right people that's all(which i have done to get this forum). and regarding to development this device is new in the market as compare to E, So keep it quite and you will get tons of roms and kernels, you just need to wait
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It did struggle on XDA. I followed the New Device Request thread for a couple of months, I saw all the +Xperia M requests. I had it in my signature for about 2 months, encouraging others to request. Every once in a while a Mod would say 'we're considering between these devices now'. Page after page showed many requests and it still took a really long time. Now it's in the XDA bin. Is it not expensive enough? Is that the problem?
It was launched in August. This is mid-November. I've owned Sony (+Ericsson) devices and have been rooting, unlocking, modding, contributing, adding tutorials for Sony 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 devices, but I still think it's really unusual.
Gee, the kids are impatient these days.
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It did struggle on XDA. I followed the New Device Request thread for a couple of months, I saw all the +Xperia M requests. I had it in my signature for about 2 months, encouraging others to request. Every once in a while a Mod would say 'we're considering between these devices now'. Page after page showed many requests and it still took a really long time. Now it's in the XDA bin. Is it not expensive enough? Is that the problem?
It was launched in August. This is mid-November. I've owned Sony (+Ericsson) devices and have been rooting, unlocking, modding, contributing, adding tutorials for Sony 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 devices, but I still think it's really unusual.
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AFAIK posting request on that thread is a very long and hard process to gain a thread on XDA, To get a forum on XDA it just needs A supporting RC/RD/RT or maybe a moderator. yes the device was launched in August but also please consider its availability on different countries and its price range. In my town this device was available from September. So it will take some time to get speed pal.
icoolguy1995 said:
First of Sony xperia M hasn't struggle to make place on XDA, it just take couples of PMs to right people that's all(which i have done to get this forum). and regarding to development this device is new in the market as compare to E, So keep it quite and you will get tons of roms and kernels, you just need to wait
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Absolutely agree with you mate. Phone is new and everybody is enjoying the taste of stock firmware, coz nobody will return to stock fw when custom roms will arrive.
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icoolguy1995: I think you make fair and reasonable points. It's great when you can talk on XDA without angry people :victory:
Mini note in general - A poster mentioned 'impatience' regarding waiting for custom ROMS/kernels. I never mentioned these, it's not about custom ROMS/kernels.
Also, I listened to a technology podcast discussion the other day, they discussed the 'mobile market has shifted to an upgrade-a-phone-per-year model'. I guess that's because of the rate of innovation. So, by the time the M moves out of the bin Sony will have 6 new phones.
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AFAIK posting request on that thread is a very long and hard process to gain a thread on XDA, To get a forum on XDA it just needs A supporting RC/RD/RT or maybe a moderator. yes the device was launched in August but also please consider its availability on different countries and its price range. In my town this device was available from September. So it will take some time to get speed pal.
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Agree.... :thumbsup:
Xperia M is not mid-tier, Its entry level, since it only has a dual core, and the RAM is not even LP DDR2 yet. Xperia L deserves the title more
Racer X said:
Xperia M is not mid-tier, Its entry level, since it only has a dual core, and the RAM is not even LP DDR2 yet. Xperia L deserves the title more
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So?
Xperia L is not in low activity. And this thread is for M not for L. And you cant say this is an entry level phone because this phone has good hardware for example ADRENO 305 which you will not find in any entry level phone and i hope you didnt forgotten the KRAIT cpu.
And dont post spam please.
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Racer X said:
Xperia M is not mid-tier, Its entry level, since it only has a dual core, and the RAM is not even LP DDR2 yet. Xperia L deserves the title more
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Actually both Xperia L and M are entry level phones...
Development For Xperia M
Hi,
Im new to this forum especially as I have just recently purchased this handset after upgrading from the Xperia Arc S which I would like to say is a good phone but im looking to take my skills to a new level.
I did a lot of rom testing on the Arc S even up to the CM11 4.4 Kitkat rom that was released for this phone.
I am however looking to do development work for this phone as well and maybe work on porting some of my apps and mods from ICS upto JB with help from anyone who is interested.
Hope people maybe interested and lets see what we can do to get people interested in this device
Thanks
Rob Nightingale
(xperialive12)
P.M me for more details
Hi! Well, seeing as there's revolution in the issue of globalization of the device, I want to clarify that just earlier this month came to Argentina, we are talking at the beginning of 2014, when months went on the market, so to not despair there are still places where it spread mobile magnificent. I hope I have been helpful, thank you very much and greetings.
And sorry for my English, I used a translator, because I did not communicate fluently.
Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I saw something that doesn't get in my head: I can't understand why a device that wasn't even released (Xperia M2) has a dedicated forum section in the main page, while Xperia M is in low-activity section. Yes, we don't have a lot of kernels and custom ROMs available right now for Xperia M, but that's a lot compared to the dedicated forum section Xperia M2 got, many of them without any post at all :silly:
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Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I saw something that doesn't get in my head: I can't understand why a device that wasn't even released (Xperia M2) has a dedicated forum section in the main page, while Xperia M is in low-activity section. Yes, we don't have a lot of kernels and custom ROMs available right now for Xperia M, but that's a lot compared to the dedicated forum section Xperia M2 got, many of them without any post at all :silly:
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To even open a new forum many things are taken into consideration. One of them is the shown interest of devs for the said device and another the expected popularity.
These may be some of the reasons.
As for Xperia M being into Low Activity, as an Xpeia M user, what's the difference?
Xperia M is low mid ranger device
Xperia L has much more
Like 8 MP camra with stunning featurrs
Processor is little faster then M
8 GB internal storage
4.3 inches display
But I think that xperia M shouldn't be included in low activity section.
It is low mid ranger device
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So what?
It's not caused by that how our device is... It's caused because there is still not much roms/kernels for our device. In Xperia l cause it was much more easier for developers to get kk roms because it has 4.4 aosp sources from Sony.
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iks8 said:
In Xperia L it was much more easier for developers to get kk roms because it has 4.4 aosp sources from Sony.
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Xperia L may have KK AOSP sources but still lacks an official 4.3 update, never confirmed or even rumored by Sony. And for the guys saying that Xperia L is way better than Xperia M, just compare the specs: Xperia L is just a Xperia M with better camera and different design, and that's all, everything else remains the same, same amount of RAM, same GPU and same CPU.
And before someone says that XL have a bigger screen, yes, it has a 0.3" bigger screen, but at the same resolution of XM, making its PPI lower than Xperia M screen (228 ppi vs 245 ppi). In Xperia M advantage we have a dual SIM version, while Xperia L don't. But all this Xperia L vs Xperia M talk is off-topic, the thing is that for me Xperia M does deserve a better place in XDA forums, but appears that only I think so :silly:
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Xperia L may have KK AOSP sources but still lacks an official 4.3 update, never confirmed or even rumored by Sony. And for the guys saying that Xperia L is way better than Xperia M, just compare the specs: Xperia L is just a Xperia M with better camera and different design, and that's all, everything else remains the same, same amount of RAM, same GPU and same CPU.
And before someone says that XL have a bigger screen, yes, it has a 0.3" bigger screen, but at the same resolution of XM, making its PPI lower than Xperia M screen (228 ppi vs 245 ppi). In Xperia M advantage we have a dual SIM version, while Xperia L don't. But all this Xperia L vs Xperia M talk is off-topic, the thing is that for me Xperia M does deserve a better place in XDA forums, but appears that only I think so :silly:
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actually L has better cpu[just see specs of cpu name and number]
it can play 1080p
but still m is not low activity device...
anyways no problem where it is...[atleast its here]
I am looking at the Z1 development section and there are lots of roms for it, including a very nice GPe port from the Z Ultra. Since the Z1c is supposed to be almost the same thing as the Z1, how easy would it be to port Z1 roms to the Z1c? If it's indeed easy, we'll have an avalanche of roms to choose from, which is great. Would the porting process be difficult?
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I am looking at the Z1 development section and there are lots of roms for it, including a very nice GPe port from the Z Ultra. Since the Z1c is supposed to be almost the same thing as the Z1, how easy would it be to port Z1 roms to the Z1c? If it's indeed easy, we'll have an avalanche of roms to choose from, which is great. Would the porting process be difficult?
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I can't say one way or another, as I am not a developer. However, as many of the rooting/unlocking procedures seem to be borrowed from the Z1, I'd say it's quite likely. Coming from an Xperia Ray I can say that many of the roms I used were developed for the entire 2011 Xperia line.
Ok I'm a developer but I haven't checked the Z1 ROMs yet... Both should be easy to port unless Xperia Z1 resource files doesn't support lower screen resolution. If it does then it should be pretty easy. But if it doesn't then it would be a pain porting one as you would have to rescale the images, modify xml files and change the height & width to make it fit for xperia z1 compact.
Gaúcho comedor said:
I am looking at the Z1 development section and there are lots of roms for it, including a very nice GPe port from the Z Ultra. Since the Z1c is supposed to be almost the same thing as the Z1, how easy would it be to port Z1 roms to the Z1c? If it's indeed easy, we'll have an avalanche of roms to choose from, which is great. Would the porting process be difficult?
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