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Official jelly bean for s3?

This was just posted on Android police. The YouTube vid is in Spanish but the guy said the rom is rumored to be released later this month or early Sept. Looks legit but we will see.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...on-video-shows-off-revamped-notification-bar/
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chrisram88 said:
This was just posted on Android police. The YouTube vid is in Spanish but the guy said the rom is rumored to be released later this month or early Sept. Looks legit but we will see.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...on-video-shows-off-revamped-notification-bar/
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That's for the I9300, we have an entirely different chipset and carrier bloat that will take time to develop.

Killa - FYI if you are the second person to post in a forum thread there is absolutely no reason to quote the whole first post.

Look intersristing, s Voice still there :/ hopefully it got r at least cause it sucks, thanks for sharing
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That's for the I9300, we have an entirely different chipset and carrier bloat that will take time to develop.
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True I'm sure we will see it just a matter of time.
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I think even when jelly bean comes to the carrier's, they still have to put their junk in it. I don't think we will see a carrier official 4.1 anytime soon
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Araltd said:
I think even when jelly bean comes to the carrier's, they still have to put their junk in it. I don't think we will see a carrier official 4.1 anytime soon
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I don't see it being in a month or anything either, International always gets it before US.

I was on galaxy s 2 and we waited long time to get ICS from tmobile and when we got it ; we were like ok take it back. Tooo many junks from tmobile. Same thing goona happen here tooo
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Like everyone said the international and us version are 2 different things, but .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835931
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Pshh by the time we get jelly bean android key lime pie will be out.
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maybe im just being optimistic but i think we will get something fairly soon

on the plus side of it the rom just needs to be compatible with our phones SoC instead creating from the ground up, that and ass bloatware of course. Maybe sooner then later.

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Killa - FYI if you are the second person to post in a forum thread there is absolutely no reason to quote the whole first post.
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No reason.....except I'm a red blooded American and this is an open forum. Go nit pick with the hens OK?
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Who cares when the official Touchwiz version will be out anyway? I'd be willing to bet that CM10 will have a bug free build pushed out within the next 30 days. They're damn close to it already.

sn0warmy said:
Who cares when the official Touchwiz version will be out anyway? I'd be willing to bet that CM10 will have a bug free build pushed out within the next 30 days. They're damn close to it already.
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It's already silky smooth broham, I would prefer to have the samsung version because of the awesome stuff that comes stock.

Because cyan might have a great build but with JB 100% done he won't have to use hacked features just the kernel will be hacked.
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KillaHurtz said:
It's already silky smooth broham, I would prefer to have the samsung version because of the awesome stuff that comes stock.
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agreed love touchwiz on this phone gives the phone personality and I actually like some of that tmo junk on it

adolfo778 said:
agreed love touchwiz on this phone gives the phone personality and I actually like some of that tmo junk on it
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Agree. I haven't even flashed a rom on here cuz well I haven't desired for one since stock isn't that bad at all
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I imagine alot of ppl will be underwhelmed when we do get JB. There's not going to be much visually different, and project butter pushing things to 60fps throughout the ui will help, but this is already a pretty smooth phone. I was seeing some lag issues, but I reflashed my current rom & everything is back to silky smooth. Don't get me wrong, JB is a welcome addition to an already amazing device, but it's not going to be like the jump from gingerbread to ics, so I can be patient. Also, as a couple others have stated, I'm loving TW over AOSP now. I never thought I'd say it, but TW is full of incredible additions to Android that I don't want to lose. I love the beauty of stock Android, but it's a fair trade for all of the functionality.

mt3g said:
I don't see it being in a month or anything either, International always gets it before US.
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true that amigo great to see u on another forum

How many of you are not rooted?

Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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I rooted my s2 as soon as I got last year. I've run many roms. My favorite was Juggs 5.0. When ICS officially came out, I Odin to stock ICS. I rooted it so I could add my 15 toggle panel back on. There are a few apps I had that required root. I'm eager to get some JellyBean on it though. I did flash the google now and google ears. Those are pretty cool.

droptopMP said:
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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Same here, still running stock ICS. If Jellybean is as smooth as they say and we get an official release, I may not ever root. At least not any time soon ...
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I'm pretty sure we're all rooted. Why would anyone come to xda? And what good is xda to a non rooted phone? Just sayen'
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^This.

RushAOZ said:
I'm pretty sure we're all rooted. Why would anyone come to xda? And what good is xda to a non rooted phone? Just sayen'
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I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.

sgalbincea said:
I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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That's like going to culinary school then never stepping foot in a kitchen.......
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droptopMP said:
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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What's unrooted mean?

sirdowski said:
That's like going to culinary school then never stepping foot in a kitchen.......
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Haha good analogy. Also if didn't want to root and tinker, I'd probably own a iPhone. But to each their own.
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badaphooko01 said:
Haha good analogy. Also if didn't want to root and tinker, I'd probably own a iPhone. But to each their own.
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A jailbroken ifone is still gay. I'll rock a stock android over that crap.

sgalbincea said:
I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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Let's not knock this guy's choice to not root. At least he's here, following development and learning. How many "HELPPPP MY PHONE IS BRICKED!!!!!" threads have you seen? I'd say this guy wouldn't be one of those people if he tried to.
As for the OP I'm glad you had the sense to realize that without the know how, there's no point in risking it.
I rooted on day one, but to each his own
(Edit to clean up the wording. I'm high lol)
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sgalbincea said:
I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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Same here. My last phone (LG P500), which has now gone to my wife, is rooted and I like to stay tuned to developments for it as well. I expect that I'll root once I get 4.1 for my T989D (assuming it comes), then see what custom ROMs can offer beyond that. I've been reading these forums for over a month now to learn the procedures and of potential pitfalls so I don't wreck my phone when the time comes.
This phone is quite a step up from the P500, so I'm pretty happy without root for the time being.

mulletcutter said:
A jailbroken ifone is still gay. I'll rock a stock android over that crap.
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I'm guessing by this statement, that you are a young teenager. I am an Android user and have been for quite a while. I honestly prefer to live my life and not have to tweak a phone's core OS for it to work right. It should work correctly right out of the box. Having to reset my phone several times a day or deal with bloatware is not fun. The nature of Android OS to begin with requires de-bloat/hacking.
Anyway like I said this is coming from a SGS2 user and former iPhone user as well. Only reason I don't go back is iPhones are still physically small for my liking. That and I'm on contract with T-Mobile and live in a building with poor reception (need WiFi calling)

Bought the phone ... rooted it in less than an hour xD. But, after browsing through some roms, I am in stock now just because everything works. However, I do run some rooted apps that come in handy at times.

Battery
I wanted something close to stock, so I went infamous 3.0 and it's just as stable, but the battery life is so much better than stock ICS. Would never go back.

I think its insane to deal with bloatware. Its androids biggest flaw. And theaon reason I root.
Flash Jedi jelly. I promise you won't regret. ( you will lose WiFi calling tho)
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rooted and it rules
droptopMP said:
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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Rooting is essential to both experience android and master it
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Premium Suite Update Poll

This is just for fun, cause we all know Sprint is gonna sit on it as much as they can before finally giving it to us...
But how long do you think before the OFFICIAL Premium Suite Update gets released from Sprint?
Keep comments related to the Sprint or the update itself please. In other words... ON TOPIC.

Like I said before I think late march or april. I just hoope its not like the epic were it was a great phone and they just left it in the dust. So beside this other question would be how long do u think s3 will be a flag ship phone for sprint
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I'm gonna be hopeful and say we'll get it around March.
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I will say officially from sprint in may 2013 from xda devs in January. The s3 was there flagship device but no more iphone 5 and optimus g and galaxy note 2 took that crown. I highly doubt samsung care about the us version, we are only a small fraction of there business.
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I will be pro life and say they will release it a month after the Galaxy S4 is released.
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My best guess.. about the 30th of Feb. Just a round about guess tho.

I think it's funny that no matter how well Sprint handles updates, people ***** about it. Correct me if I'm wrong (people always do), but wasn't Sprint the first carrier in the USA to push out Jellybean on the S3? Has anyone in the USA gotten the 4.1.2 updates for their S3 yet?

poit said:
I think it's funny that no matter how well Sprint handles updates, people ***** about it. Correct me if I'm wrong (people always do), but wasn't Sprint the first carrier in the USA to push out Jellybean on the S3? Has anyone in the USA gotten the 4.1.2 updates for their S3 yet?
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Yes they were. Very quick about it. If you've seen the recent comparisons, you would actually see that Sprint is one of the quicker carriers in the US. People just like to jerk each other off. Sounds good, feels good, thanks thanks, jerk jerk.

Really a poll on this is pointless. We get it when we get it.
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HoDawg said:
Really a poll on this is pointless. We get it when we get it.
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You know what else is pointless? Commenting on a post you think is pointless. Why even waste your time? You're composing about complaining.
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The day when you can just go to samsung website and download updates. Makes since save sprint money and time and everyone is happy.
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poit said:
I think it's funny that no matter how well Sprint handles updates, people ***** about it. Correct me if I'm wrong (people always do), but wasn't Sprint the first carrier in the USA to push out Jellybean on the S3? Has anyone in the USA gotten the 4.1.2 updates for their S3 yet?
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Felnarion said:
Yes they were. Very quick about it. If you've seen the recent comparisons, you would actually see that Sprint is one of the quicker carriers in the US. People just like to jerk each other off. Sounds good, feels good, thanks thanks, jerk jerk.
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While I agree they were relatively "quick" with the last update compared to other times, I've been with them long enough to know they take their time on a LOT of things, not just updates to devices.
Aside from that point, it's my personal opinion that Sprint (or ANY carrier for that matter) shouldn't even have their hands in the updates released for the device at all. They should have their own software that is required for the device to activate and function on their towers and service and that's all. If you don't have their software, it won't work, simple as that. Whether or not they add additional requirements for their software to function properly on the device is up to them as well, as it's their own software and their service they are providing, but the fact of the matter is that it's NOT their device. So as to the updates to the software and functionality of the base device, that shouldn't be at all for the carrier to decide.
Think about it from a different angle... What if Steam or Skype or some other software as a service type company said that you couldn't apply an update to Windows or update your video card drivers or sound drivers until they release their own approved copy of the update or driver... You'd laugh at them, right? I mean seriously, how silly would that be?
Now, they can RECOMMEND that certain drivers or updates NOT be applied until they are fully tested, but they cannot force their own copies of the same updates/drivers upon you.
Not trying to start a full out debate here, but just my own thoughts on the update release process and something for people to think about.
Also, there's no need for vulgarity, no one is "*****ing" or "jerking each other off" here. This is just a poll and a calm discussion about the update and hopes for how soon it will be. Please keep it clean or I will have your posts removed. Thanks.

HoDawg said:
Really a poll on this is pointless. We get it when we get it.
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Welcome to the Internet.

DirtyShroomz said:
You know what else is pointless? Commenting on a post you think is pointless. Why even waste your time? You're composing about complaining.
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Simmer down there trippy. Still pointless.
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Unknownforce said:
While I agree they were relatively "quick" with the last update compared to other times, I've been with them long enough to know they take their time on a LOT of things, not just updates to devices.
Aside from that point, it's my personal opinion that Sprint (or ANY carrier for that matter) shouldn't even have their hands in the updates released for the device at all. They should have their own software that is required for the device to activate and function on their towers and service and that's all. If you don't have their software, it won't work, simple as that. Whether or not they add additional requirements for their software to function properly on the device is up to them as well, as it's their own software and their service they are providing, but the fact of the matter is that it's NOT their device. So as to the updates to the software and functionality of the base device, that shouldn't be at all for the carrier to decide.
Think about it from a different angle... What if Steam or Skype or some other software as a service type company said that you couldn't apply an update to Windows or update your video card drivers or sound drivers until they release their own approved copy of the update or driver... You'd laugh at them, right? I mean seriously, how silly would that be?
Now, they can RECOMMEND that certain drivers or updates NOT be applied until they are fully tested, but they cannot force their own copies of the same updates/drivers upon you.
Not trying to start a full out debate here, but just my own thoughts on the update release process and something for people to think about.
Also, there's no need for vulgarity, no one is "*****ing" or "jerking each other off" here. This is just a poll and a calm discussion about the update and hopes for how soon it will be. Please keep it clean or I will have your posts removed. Thanks.
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You my good sir have the right idea. You should start a phone company.
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Wait wait wait. I thought eta was a no go on xda. Lol.... I say in Feb.
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funny thing is the note 1 got the premuim suite today while us with s3's are still waiting hahah. oh well wait for sextapes leaked builds when we get them i guess.

We already have most of the features that cine in premium suite
What did it matter when it comes out
4.2 on the other hand is a different story
I want it
I want it now with touch wiz
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gtuansdiamm said:
We already have most of the features that cine in premium suite
What did it matter when it comes out
4.2 on the other hand is a different story
I want it
I want it now with touch wiz
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No we do not.
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No we do not.
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I know I do. .....
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[Q] What are we waiting on?

What are we waiting on in order to get JB and AOSP?
I'm asking out of pure curiosity. I looked in various threads to try and find the answer. I don't think I get it. Anyways. Thanks for any info!
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Was wondering this haha.
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Seems to me that the devs for lgog want to release a "good" rom (everything working). So that is what we are waiting on.

There is already JB for LGOG but there are reports that people can't send messages.

There's a jb ROM from Houston that Everything works except making calls
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There's a jb ROM from Houston that Everything works except making calls
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I thought people couldn't send messages and 3G didn't work. Well that sucks.

No he made a new kernel that fixed all that. Just can't make calls
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3G works on Houston's ROM
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So then, this is the calm before the storm? They're in testing I guess?
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Also Xboxfanj, who is working on I believe getting cm10 or something is having issues with GPS, nfc, and I think camera. So err ate getting close. Wouldn't be surprised if they waited for official jb and source drop till they do release it
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Until someone has posted a working rom in our Sprint Development page I would strongly recommend not flashing anything cloned from another OG version. Xbox is working tirelessly under very stressful conditions(St. Louis) to give us a CM version of JB. The biggest hindrance is that are phone is different from the other OG. Actually, all the OG are different from each other from one aspect to another. We all share the same CPU. So booting isn't an issue. But, after that it really is difficult to get each thing to work. The Sprint version uses its own CDMA which is not the same as what they use in Korea. At&t has its own camera, the Japanese version is waterproof(seriously), the Canadian version wishes it was an American.
If you flash any of these roms(unless triple confirmed it is safe) you can really jack stuff up. You need to not only back up your phone but I would back up your partitions.
My strongest recommendation if you are merely a hobby flasher is to wait. I know it has been a tough long road but the finish line is in sight. We will have source for our phone(LS970) in a month. We will have the OTA in a month. If you flash anything Korean be prepared to face the consequences if things don't go well.
So, what are we waiting on? The simple and most honest answer is LG. Send them an email, blast them on twitter, blast Sprint to have them blast LG, call the development department, email multiple sources, write a letter to the Android sites online. Maybe they could write a story about it. If you put their feet to the fire they will have to say something. But, be kind and sane in your approach. The problem of getting our phone updated is not because of lack of development. We have some great guys.

kc_exactly said:
the Canadian version wishes it was an American.
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Lol
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S4 4.3 update coming in october

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
So how likely are we to get this update quickly since T-Mobile seems to have forgotten about our updates so far. Really want apps2sd already with Wi-Fi calling
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
So how likely are we to get this update quickly since T-Mobile seems to have forgotten about our updates so far. Really want apps2sd already with WiJane-Fi calling
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Sorry bro but I wouldn't hold my breath for any tmobile update. They always have some lame excuse like we're testing for months and months...good news is you can have 4.3 and apps to sd NOW if you root and install a custom rom. Look in the roms change log and it will tell you if its 4.3 and all other features it has. i have apps to sd now with my current rom. So if you don't want to wait for God knows how long you can get these things you want now by rooting. Also you can change back to stock and unroot if you like so its not a permanent thing. There are some wonderful how to root threads in tmobile android development section. Look in the forum for tmobile Samsung galaxy and find the development section where the roms are kept and you should find a how to guide.read read read and when your comfortable with the procedure proceed to root your device. You won't regret it for a second. Best wishes. Otherwise you can wait on tmobile which is likely just going to frusterate you. Ive been with tmobile ten years and my only complaint is their update process.its always one excuse after another why we're not getting our update. So you do have options. You can root and run these things now or wait on tmobile. Its up to you. Best wishes. If your already rooted and just wondering when it will come out my guess is after a newer device is announced. Tmobile is awful when it comes to updates!

Surprisingly the moto x on Tmobile was the first to get the camera fix update. But I guess it's more a patch than an update.
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realsis said:
Sorry bro but I wouldn't hold my breath for any tmobile update. They always have some lame excuse like we're testing for months and months...good news is you can have 4.3 and apps to sd NOW if you root and install a custom rom. Look in the roms change log and it will tell you if its 4.3 and all other features it has. i have apps to sd now with my current rom. So if you don't want to wait for God knows how long you can get these things you want now by rooting. Also you can change back to stock and unroot if you like so its not a permanent thing. There are some wonderful how to root threads in tmobile android development section. Look in the forum for tmobile Samsung galaxy and find the development section where the roms are kept and you should find a how to guide.read read read and when your comfortable with the procedure proceed to root your device. You won't regret it for a second. Best wishes. Otherwise you can wait on tmobile which is likely just going to frusterate you. Ive been with tmobile ten years and my only complaint is their update process.its always one excuse after another why we're not getting our update. So you do have options. You can root and run these things now or wait on tmobile. Its up to you. Best wishes. If your already rooted and just wondering when it will come out my guess is after a newer device is announced. Tmobile is awful when it comes to updates!
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What ticks me off is that this slow update crap is one of the reasons I left Verizon, only to find out it's an issue with t mobile.
Right now I am seriously considering the Nexus 5. For now, thank God I am rooted.

Yes I understand. I went through this with my htc and it makes me furious. It is ALWAYS the same excuse. We're testing and it might take awhile. Its total bs. I honestly think its a marketing strategy of sorts to hold the update as long as possible until the latest and greatest comes out. Then we no longer even care about the update and want to move on..I just don't know why they are this way. I've been with tmobile ten years and I've seen this over and over. Always the same excuse.its really my only complaint about the company. They just won't give us our updates ever so small or large. Until we don't care anymore because we're moving on to something else anyway. Its ridicoulas. So many complain but it seems they turn a deaf ear to our pleas.i was hoping this device would be different and they would send out the update in a timely manner. But its looking like that's not the case. Very frustrating. ..

If you really want bleeding edge updates, check out what happened to the 2013 Nexus 7 and its updates: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380866
It's bad enough when a tablet reboots randomly; I can't imagine a primary communication device like a smartphone doing the same... you know, like in the middle of a phone call.

I agree with realsis, don't count on T-Mobile. Right now you have 4.3 roms but they might not be perfect, I'm sure when Samsung releases the update with Touchwiz and everything, someone will figure out how to port the features to our S4. This seems like it's been repeated a million times, but latest updates can only come from 2 sources: XDA or directly from Google for Nexus devices.
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As soon as the internatinal i9505 galaxy s4 4.3 is realesed we will be able to install it becuase we run the same hardware so thats the good thing
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Sorry but this thread is funny and painful. We know tmobile employees are too dumb to rely on them for software

I'd honestly have a hard time believing that Samsung isn't going to be pushing the providers HARD to get the update out. They've got watches to sell...

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I'd honestly have a hard time believing that Samsung isn't going to be pushing the providers HARD to get the update out. They've got watches to sell...
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That's a good point, but i dont think the carriers care.
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Pray for the update in Oct 2014

Im sure not waiting till october 2014 for this update. hopefully I'll have jumped over to something else. By that time. .in the meantime I'm going to enjoy what we have available here on xda... tmobile ALWAYS uses the same excuse every update. "Oh were testing it" or " there was a issue with it" having been with tmobile ten years ive heard this over and over. Different device SAME story. This might sound odd but I think they hold their updates as a sort of marketing strategy. They will wait till something even greater is released by the time the updates comes out its so old it does not matter and we jump ship to the latest and greatest... think about it..if they gave our updates as they should be given we might actually be happy with our device therefore less likely to buy the latest and greatest new device... I dont know I can't help but think that they hold these updstes for their OWN reasons.. hopefully I'm wrong but ive seen this before....

Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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nymikey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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No the watch will be compatible with the s3 s4 and note 2 IF they are updated by T-Mobile/Samsung to 4.3.
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They wouldn't do that as marketing strategy because the only people that care about updates are people that know a lot about the phone so if they continued to never update any phones customers would eventually go to other carriers that care about updates versus buying a new phone again that will never get updated
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nymikey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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I still think Samsung is in a nice position (in regards to market-share) to push the telcos to release the update. Seems kind of silly anyway since Samsung are the ones creating the update. One leak to SamMobile would put the pressure back on T-Mobile. Samsung has a lot more to gain from watch sales with multiple compatible devices in the wild than they would hoping that people would upgrade to a N3 AND get the watch.
I'll probably still be running CM, but it'll be nice to have an official 4.3 release

I saw a thread somewhere on xda an hour ago about a leaked Sammy 4.3 for the i9500/i9505 trying to find it again to share the link.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
[GT-I9505][Leaked firmware] I9505XXUEMI8 (Android 4.3) - Open Europe (OXA) [01-10-13]
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jds3118 said:
I saw a thread somewhere on xda an hour ago about a leaked Sammy 4.3 for the i9500/i9505 trying to find it again to share the link.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
[GT-I9505][Leaked firmware] I9505XXUEMI8 (Android 4.3) - Open Europe (OXA) [01-10-13]
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I saw this and was wondering is there anything special one needs to do before flashing. Like should I wait for a CWM rom or can I just use the download as is?

Dustin.M650 said:
I saw this and was wondering is there anything special one needs to do before flashing. Like should I wait for a CWM rom or can I just use the download as is?
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Not sure haven't tried it yet lol but from reading the thread I believe if u flash without the new bl file it should work maybe a more experienced dev can work their magic for us. :thumbup:
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