Hi all,
I know Samsung are making a 3g version of the note 2, and they will also release a 4G lte version. The isn't any good 4G networks where I live right now, but i was thinking if future proofing my phone, and I also might be moving back to England soon. my questions are this:
If I buy a 4G model (n7105 I think), will I be able to flash the international version roms?, I know I might not get the 4G network if I do that, but would I still get the 3g networks if i flashed a different modem?.
If I get the 4G version, I would get worse battery life cos of the need for a extra modem to be running, but will I be able to disable 4G in settings (like I can disable 3g on my s2)..?
And if I can disable 4g, then would I still get the same battery life as on a 3g version of the phone?.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers Corey
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I'm using N7105 on a non-LTE provider and still works as a charm without battery issues. 50% on day 1 with playing around lasted me half day.
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fishingfon said:
Hi all,
I know Samsung are making a 3g version of the note 2, and they will also release a 4G lte version. The isn't any good 4G networks where I live right now, but i was thinking if future proofing my phone, and I also might be moving back to England soon. my questions are this:
If I buy a 4G model (n7105 I think), will I be able to flash the international version roms?, I know I might not get the 4G network if I do that, but would I still get the 3g networks if i flashed a different modem?.
If I get the 4G version, I would get worse battery life cos of the need for a extra modem to be running, but will I be able to disable 4G in settings (like I can disable 3g on my s2)..?
And if I can disable 4g, then would I still get the same battery life as on a 3g version of the phone?.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers Corey
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yes you are able to disable the LTE network, and choose the GSM/WCDMA instead.
But without disabling it, the network will auto choose the available network. If you current telco doesn't provide any LTE connection, the phone will auto change to 3G.
Like here the telco I'm using, even provides the 4G connection, but, in facts, it is not yet island-wide. So, when I reach my home, it turns directly to 3G. Battery wise, as I notice, is the same. Not much different when you are in 4G or in 3G. But yes, speed is different when you are in 4G.
The only lack of this 4G (N7105), .....
we still don't have specific forum for N7105 (dunno why we don't have... LOL) nor custom ROM. So, I just have to bear with the stock ROM rooted. :fingers-crossed:
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Future proof?
Well depends on how long you are intending to keep it. These days people change phone very frequently and LTE is no loss for most general usage of data use.
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There is already a 3G and LTE version out in Australian market with a price difference of $200+ with the latter being more expensive.
If you are moving back to England very soon (1 or 2 months), do check out the price and review of the LTE plans and services with the various mobile providers before deciding which version to purchase. Have read online that LTE charges in Europe is a killer and data speed of LTE will be greatly affected by the amount of users at the same time, within the same WAN.
As for future-proofing your phone, it will depends on how long you are using it since nowadays, majority of the ppl does not use the same phone for more than 2 years, which is directly affected by the various 'annual contract plans' which the providers has to offer.
Flashing the International version Rom to my N7105 was not very successful as I lost WIFI/Data/Mobile receiption and I have since unrooted my device..
Waiting for the official Home for N7105 as well.. :fingers-crossed:
Hi all,
I am planning to get a note 2 from mobicity here in Australia.
I have the choice of either the 4g LTE version or the 3g version.
My network at the moment doesn't support 4g, so i would only be getting it to future proof it. And i am moving back to England soon, so i might get 4g when I go there.
But if I get the 4g version, I know that 4g LTE uses a lot more battery then the 3g version. But if I disabled 4g in settings (like you can disable 3g on the galaxy s2) would I then get the same battery life as the 3g version? Or would I still get worse battery life?.
I really need to know, as if I would still get worse battery life, I will get the 3g version.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Corey
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The 4G version will chew through it's battery substantially quicker than 3G. You have to ask yourself whether 4G speeds is worth this sacrifice?
Seeing how you don't have 4G coverage anyway, I would stick with the 3G version.
I HATE it when people say they want a 'future proof' phone because:
a)The phone will be outdated (hardware wise) within 12 months and;
b)Most people (particularly on XDA) buy a new phone every year
Now having said all this, the 4G version does have one ace up it's sleeve over the 3G version - DC-HSDPA on 3G. The N7100 doesn't have this (it maxes out at HSPA+).
So, if you did get the 4G, and disabled 4G, you'd *theoretically* get faster speeds than the 'standard' N7100. Assuming of course, that your network supports DC-HSDPA, which I'm not sure Optus does.
interfreak said:
The 4G version will chew through it's battery substantially quicker than 3G. You have to ask yourself whether 4G speeds is worth this sacrifice?
Seeing how you don't have 4G coverage anyway, I would stick with the 3G version.
I HATE it when people say they want a 'future proof' phone because:
a)The phone will be outdated (hardware wise) within 12 months and;
b)Most people (particularly on XDA) buy a new phone every year
Now having said all this, the 4G version does have one ace up it's sleeve over the 3G version - DC-HSDPA on 3G. The N7100 doesn't have this (it maxes out at HSPA+).
So, if you did get the 4G, and disabled 4G, you'd *theoretically* get faster speeds than the 'standard' N7100. Assuming of course, that your network supports DC-HSDPA, which I'm not sure Optus does.
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Hi,
I don't have 4g coverage at the moment, but i am moving to England soon, and I heard they are starting to roll out 4g there at the moment.
I am only 16, and I am currently un-employed, so i don't have any income, apart from the money my dad gives me, so i can't upgrade my phone each year.
That's why I want to future proof it.
If I do buy the 4g version, and I disabled 4g in settings (I heard the was a option for that in the setting of the n2) then would I get the same battery life as if I had the 3g version? As that should disable the 4g radio. And from what I can find out, the only difference between the 4g and the 3g version is the 4G radio in the lte version.
Thanks
Cheers
Corey
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Disabling the 4G will give you significant battery life improvement, similar to the N7100.
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Disabling the 4G will give you significant battery life improvement, similar to the N7100.
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Ok thanks,
Do you know if it would give the same battery life as the 3g model if I disabled 4g?
As battery life is really important for me, as my current phone is the galaxy s2, and the battery life is terrible on it, I have to recharge 2 to 3 times a day, so no matter which note 2 I get it will be better then that.
But i want to get the best battery life I can.
Thanks
Cheers
Corey
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I don't know if anyone can guarantee it will be the same between the two, but no matter how you slice it, you'll still get MUCH better battery life on the N2 than on your S2...even if you keep 4g on...so if you turn it off, it will just be that much better. It's a win win either way.
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Actually, 4G is more battery comsume than 3G, but the difference is not so large, auound 10-15%, when you turn off the 4G, the battery performance is same as 3G version.
But the download speed have very big difference between 3g and 4g. I advise you choice LTE version
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Here are the facts as i've had both n7100 and n7105.
N7100 gave me 9 to 10 hours on screen battery time almost all the time.
N7105 gives me just over 7 hours. This is 3g only as i'm with 3uk and they only deal with 3g. Their 3g network gives me 19meg download speeds most of the time though.
So a big difference and i actually miss my old n7100 but i'm loving n7105 speeds to. Catch 22 situation. So even with 4g disabled and settings set to 3g only the n7105 radio uses more power.
what is the reason?
lawtq said:
Here are the facts as i've had both n7100 and n7105.
N7100 gave me 9 to 10 hours on screen battery time almost all the time.
N7105 gives me just over 7 hours. This is 3g only as i'm with 3uk and they only deal with 3g. Their 3g network gives me 19meg download speeds most of the time though.
So a big difference and i actually miss my old n7100 but i'm loving n7105 speeds to. Catch 22 situation. So even with 4g disabled and settings set to 3g only the n7105 radio uses more power.
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But I've confused,what is the reason, N7105 use more power than N7100,when 4G is off ?
seyedshahaboddin said:
But I've confused,what is the reason, N7105 use more power than N7100,when 4G is off ?
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Faster hspa uses more power too.
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Im using the N7105 on "3" in the uk to make use of the DC-HSPA+
Thats specifically why I went for the N7105 because I have unlimited data on that network and the N7100 doesn't support DC.
I use the phone a lot and I easily get a full days use on a single charge and as long as I can do that I don't care as I charge the phone every night.
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Faster hspa uses more power too.
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This is my carrier 3G " omantel.om/OmanWebLib/Individual/Mobile/About_3.5G.aspx?LinkID=3&MenuId=228" ,Considering to my carriers Galaxy note II LTE uses more power than Note II 3g?
sorry,I couldn't post the link address completly because I registered on XDA recently and after 10 posts I am being able to post outside links.so add www before omantel.
Regards
seyedshahaboddin said:
This is my carrier 3G " omantel.om/OmanWebLib/Individual/Mobile/About_3.5G.aspx?LinkID=3&MenuId=228" ,Considering to my carriers Galaxy note II LTE uses more power than Note II 3g?
sorry,I couldn't post the link address completly because I registered on XDA recently and after 10 posts I am being able to post outside links.so add www before omantel.
Regards
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Well, previously everybody was thinking and seeing that LTE used more power and basically it did. Most of that was attributed to lte using a second board for the radio. As second gen lte radios have been integrated onto soc's it has been noted that lte can be more efficient if utilized properly because with lte's low latency and quick bursts of speed the phone can race to idle quicker. I am sure this is a very effective for people who use sync services a lot. If used properly, I am sure the phone can poll for data in quick bursts and can definitely help battery life. This is not always the case between OEM'S being lazy and sloppy and depending on what and how often the phone needs to poll for data. I would also think if lte has bad reception it can have a worse effect than hspa would. I almost got a carrier version of gnote2 to have lte because I want to test it so bad but I hate my carrier enough as is and I hate bloatware with a passion.
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@rbiter said:
Well, previously everybody was thinking and seeing that LTE used more power and basically it did. Most of that was attributed to lte using a second board for the radio. As second gen lte radios have been integrated onto soc's it has been noted that lte can be more efficient if utilized properly because with lte's low latency and quick bursts of speed the phone can race to idle quicker. I am sure this is a very effective for people who use sync services a lot. If used properly, I am sure the phone can poll for data in quick bursts and can definitely help battery life. This is not always the case between OEM'S being lazy and sloppy and depending on what and how often the phone needs to poll for data. I would also think if lte has bad reception it can have a worse effect than hspa would. I almost got a carrier version of gnote2 to have lte because I want to test it so bad but I hate my carrier enough as is and I hate bloatware with a passion.
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First,thank u "@rbiter" because of ur opinion,but my intent was that,considering by my carrier 3G speed(3.5G up to 7.2 MB but generally is less than 1.5 MB) Galaxy Note II LTE version uses more battery life than Galaxy Note II 3G?and is it a huge differnce?or is it sustainable?
4g speed is worth the battery life i would say..i am a 4g user..
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First,thank u "@rbiter" because of ur opinion,but my intent was that,considering by my carrier 3G speed(3.5G up to 7.2 MB but generally is less than 1.5 MB) Galaxy Note II LTE version uses more battery life than Galaxy Note II 3G?and is it a huge differnce?or is it sustainable?
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From what I've read they are comparable. But at the same time I've noticed some people getting up to 20% less battery than the international version. A lot of factors go into that like usage and reception. If you really want lte, I would say get it, that is if you really need more than 1.5mb/s more often than not. I turned it down because I am fortunate enough to get up to 5mb/s in ideal situations and 1-3mb/s in less than ideal situations and plenty of WiFi in between.
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@rbiter said:
From what I've read they are comparable. But at the same time I've noticed some people getting up to 20% less battery than the international version. A lot of factors go into that like usage and reception. If you really want lte, I would say get it, that is if you really need more than 1.5mb/s more often than not. I turned it down because I am fortunate enough to get up to 5mb/s in ideal situations and 1-3mb/s in less than ideal situations and plenty of WiFi in between.
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I wanna buy Galaxy note II LTE international version!!So what is your suggestion?
here carriers want to provide LTE this year,but if they don't launch it at right calender,and Galaxy note II LTE drain more power in contrast of 3G version,it will be lose-lose game!!
seyedshahaboddin said:
I wanna buy Galaxy note II LTE international version!!So what is your suggestion?
here carriers want to provide LTE this year,but if they don't launch it at right calender,and Galaxy note II LTE drain more power in contrast of 3G version,it will be lose-lose game!!
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Make sure the lte bands are compatible and that you have coverage. If you don't have coverage I would just get the n7100. BTW, even though I think Nokia and Motorola by far still make the best phones as far as reception is concerned, Samsung should get an honorable mention for being very battery friendly when signal is poor. Nokia too. Motorola is iffy when it comes to poor signal. And not to mention, the galaxy note 2 gets very good reception for a Samsung phone and by far has the best WiFi reception of any phone I have ever had. Even better than my atrix.
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But I confused again,let ask in another way,image that I have 3G network,I have to choose gnote II n7100 or n7105, in same setting and usage n7105(operated on 3G mode) drain power as much as n7100?or more,how much?
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seyedshahaboddin said:
But I confused again,let ask in another way,image that I have 3G network,I have to choose gnote II n7100 or n7105, in same setting and usage n7105(operated on 3G mode) drain power as much as n7100?or more,how much?
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if you buy an 7105 and don't use lte at all, it will probably get a little less battery like i mentioned before. otoh though, it has dc-hspa so it would depend if you get the same as n7100 on your coverage and speeds. anyways, at most you will probably see a 20% loss of what you would see with a 7100. at most. anyways, quit asking for my approval. if you can get an unlocked n7105 and don't mind a small POTENTIAL loss, you should be good to go.
Hello,
I am considering buying a second Galaxy Note 2 just in case I lose or drop the 1st one.
My 1st one is N7100, and I am wondering if I should go for N7100 or N7105 for the 2nd one.
I have one question. Does N7105 work on a non LTE contract without any inconvenience? (Like battery life?)
I have SFR Red 3GO. So, I have no LTE now, but maybe I may take LTE in the future. So, if there is no inconvenience, I would go for N7105.
Is it possible to turn off LTE? How does this work?
The battery on the LTE version is worse, regardless of if you're using 4G or have LTE turned off.
If you have enough money to buy a second phone incase you lose or drop your first, then I'd suggest waiting for the Note 3.
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If you flash a lot of ROMs and stuff and you want better battery life go for the NON LTE version, otherwise pick yourself up a LTE Version.
The non-LTE version should, in theory, have better battery life, even if your not using LTE.
Its radios are integrated onto the exynos SoC which allows for better power management while the LTE model doesn't.
Dunno how much this affects in practice though.
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Furthermore the N7100 version, there is more custom Rom for it you flash!
Thank you for all of you!!
So, what I heard about the battery life is true!!
I will probably go for N7100.
PS: I am not so keen on waiting and going for Note 3, as Note 2 is sufficiently fast. I have also read that Galaxy S4 has a bad battery life. So, maybe Note 3 will be the same.
3to4 said:
Thank you for all of you!!
So, what I heard about the battery life is true!!
I will probably go for N7100.
PS: I am not so keen on waiting and going for Note 3, as Note 2 is sufficiently fast. I have also read that Galaxy S4 has a bad battery life. So, maybe Note 3 will be the same.
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Why don't you wait until you lose or break your current phone until you get a new one.
Similarily, I would recommend getting the LTE version as you already have the 3G version.
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if your networ allow LTE connection - then ofcoure LTE version of note2
if you need more battery then you can swich to 3g only
or if you need even more power - try to extended battery mugen/zerolemon
in my country I have on poor signal 20Mb download / 5Mb upload
on 3-4 stick coverage - 30-40Mb download / 40Mb upload !
so on 3g you will never get so much speed
only one dissapoinment - not much custom ROMS avialible
fade2black101 said:
Why don't you wait until you lose or break your current phone until you get a new one.
Similarily, I would recommend getting the LTE version as you already have the 3G version.
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Thank you for your advice.
It may sound stupid, but I always feel like buying at least two when I find something I like. And, as it takes some time to buy another phone and set it up to my liking, I would prefer buying another one before I have a problem with the 1st one..
I finally think I will go for N7105.
nowy57 said:
if your networ allow LTE connection - then ofcoure LTE version of note2
if you need more battery then you can swich to 3g only
or if you need even more power - try to extended battery mugen/zerolemon
in my country I have on poor signal 20Mb download / 5Mb upload
on 3-4 stick coverage - 30-40Mb download / 40Mb upload !
so on 3g you will never get so much speed
only one dissapoinment - not much custom ROMS avialible
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Thank you. Having a lot of custom roms to choose from is an important factor for me, too. That's one of the reasons why I have been hesitating, but I think I will go for N7105.
While looking through Amazon I saw they have the Note 8 with 3G available. Not LTE, but still a step up from Wifi and for not too much more than the standard Note 8 (http://goo.gl/XB8jZF). Is anyone using this model, and do you have any comments on its 3G performance?
I'll be traveling overseas end of this year and I'm thinking of selling my current Note 8 and getting one with 3G instead.
mudge
I have the 3g model and i love it, its a tru all in one device i sold my note 2 about a month ago and i just use my note 8 for everything, 3g performance totally depends on your service provider, im with vodaphone uk and im happy with the 3g service i get although i do use mine mostly on wifi, as for the Lte/4g model it would be absolutely useless to me as there are no 4g masts up yet in my area. So unless u have great 4g coverage where u live or u travel regularly to a 4g area the Lte/4g version wont be much of a bonus, plus 4g data costs and data caps are also rubbish, whats the point in having a super high speed internet with a small data cap where its possible to use your whole monthly allowance in about an hour, yes you can watch streaming movies and tv on 4g but they dont allow you enough monthly data to actually beable to without hitting the limit within a couple of films.
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iCurmudgeon said:
While looking through Amazon I saw they have the Note 8 with 3G available. Not LTE, but still a step up from Wifi and for not too much more than the standard Note 8 (http://goo.gl/XB8jZF). Is anyone using this model, and do you have any comments on its 3G performance?
I'll be traveling overseas end of this year and I'm thinking of selling my current Note 8 and getting one with 3G instead.
mudge
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