[Q] PARANOIDANDROID 3.15 [Toro] 25-MAR-2013 Stability Issues - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I just recently flashed my Verizon Galaxy Nexus with PARANOIDANDROID 3.15 [Toro] 25-MAR-2013
I love this rom, but unfortunately, I've been getting random reboots, and numerous freezes, which require removing the battery. I get these freezes, and have to remove the battery 4 to 5 times a day (which gets old as you imagine). I just came from a stock JB 4.1.1 Verizon Rom, but have used CM10 and CodenameAndroid ROMS in the past with success.
I'm using TWRP v2.4.1.0. and flashed pa_gapps-full-4.2-20130308.zip along with the PA 3.15 zip (I downloaded both zips from goo.im). I did a factory reset , and cleared the dalvik / cache.
I've done some googling, but haven't found any answers. in all the forums that I have read, people have had no stability issues with this ROM. I really want to stick with this rom, but may be forced to go back to stock if I can't get this rom to run stable.
Any help from the dev community would be much appreciated!

I have had similar problems when expanded desktop and pie are on. I just gave up on them. Runs fine for me as long as pie isn't activated. It's a shame, but a clean install and full wipe never fixed the issues here either. That's just my experience.
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bpyazel said:
I have had similar problems when expanded desktop and pie are on. I just gave up on them. Runs fine for me as long as pie isn't activated. It's a shame, but a clean install and full wipe never fixed the issues here either. That's just my experience.
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Thanks for the reply! I've been having issues even w/o expanded desktop or pie enabled.
What I really like about this rom is the ability to change the resolution in individual apps specifically the browser, (I have a website I need to access for my work that requires a higher res).
I wonder if I was to use an older version of this rom, like the 2.99's, and not have the same freezing issues?
Does anyone have experiences with the older ParanoidAndroid (toro) ROMS?

I'm getting horrible battery life
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I have problem in SMS , sometime I cannot send but I can receive, and sometime I can send but missing many incoming messages.

I'm having the same problems with the 3.15-15APR version as well (latest). It tends to happen when apps try to update - they'll get to the install part and then the phone locks up & requires a battery pull to recover. I'm going to try a factory reset and if that doesn't work I'm off to another ROM - I've been on PA for several months, but I can't accept instability to the point that my phone may lock up in my pocket and I'll never know until I try and can't use it.
Edit: I've had tentative success with wiping data from the app manager from Download Manager and the Play Store, which has allowed me to update apps, but I'm crossing my fingers that I won't see any more freezes...

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4.2.2 The bad

Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
EDIT: I'm not talking about custom roms and such, and i'm not willing to flash, i like stock
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First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
I'm on cm10.1 4.2.2 and is probably the smoothest ROM I have ever been on.
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Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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ray3andrei said:
Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
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1. Use a custom kernel and tweak the read ahead buffer size. With sio io scheduler and 256k buffer size i made the lag minimal for me.
3+5 : use nova launcher and it will be fine
4: it works fine here, make sure you do clean installs.
As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
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manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.
Same here, on CM10.1 Play Store is now smooth but was bad on XenonHD.
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I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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sam razzy said:
Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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No. Your problem is more than likely the former.
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forever_lol said:
Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.
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Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.
thegtfusion said:
As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
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How do I do this?
Not sure if this has been discussed or not I searched and found many bugs but none that meet this specific issue.. I noticed that since I updated to the 4.2.2 leak on my Toro Nexus there have been a few issues:
Audio from the pogo pin dock stopped working.
Car mode goes off and on randomly as well as the charging bolt when the phone should be charging.
Phone goes into daydream mode even when not being charged..
Turning on bluetooth randomly reboots the phone on occasion and other random bugs.
I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA. I'm stock unlocked, unrooted, just the way I like my Nexus (for now). In no way is this a complaint, more my observations and a last shot in the dark to see if anyone has overcome these issues in the latest leaked "OTA."
On a side note, other than the dock and power issues, everything has been smooth. No lag etc...
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... I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA....
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Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.
fireknuckles said:
Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.
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It's the same as flashing a rom! Use Titanium backup to backup the apps, and custom recovery to wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik cache. Format /system, /data, /cache , and downgrade with the toolkit w/o format when it ask. So for less than an hour you will downgrade, and keep music, videos and photos. So the only thing you lose is programs, but you can restore them whit titanium, and that is!
manumanfred said:
Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.
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Lags what I am talking about is low fps scrolling that appears after some time of normal usage. I've never experienced it on 4.1.2 or 4.2.1. It has nothing to do with the kernel. (BTW aren't we talkin about the stock one?) Problem is still present on custom kernels and even OCed CPU. It looks rather like some sort of memory leak. Reboot or changing wallpaper is a workaround solution for this issue. So yeah if you reboot your device quite often you most probably won't see this bug.
If you want to read more about this issue visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178962
Except this bug I really like the 4.2.2 rom, these new features. I consider it as an improvement from 4.2.1.
I agree, 4.1.2 was polished more. 4.2.2 is better then the initial 4.2 release, but still has a way to go. We'll see what IO brings soon.
wisefreakz said:
I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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ray3andrei said:
Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..
manumanfred said:
Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..
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Like i said, i'm 100% stock, and i see a lot of people having these issues as well..
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Weird notification drawer lag on any 4.4 based ROM

I have this really weird lag when I'm on ANY 4.4 based ROM no matter what kernel or gapps package I use. So I install the ROM and its all great but I start travelling and after sometime the notification drawer is all laggy and stuttering like never before. I thought it could be a GPS issue and tried disabling wifi, gps and mobile data but no luck, I also tried clearing app cache, doing a clean wipe and reinstalling ROM, trying almost every 4.4 based ROM out there. All I did was do a Clean install (factory reset, wipe dalvik, cache, system) from TWRP 2.6.3.2, configure the accounts, install superSU from playstore and update binaries, install TiBackup and restore user apps with data. It was still smooth until I leave work/home/travel somewhere. Anyone else facing this issue? Other than this weird lag, the UI is buttery smooth (no lags on homescreen, app drawer, opening and closing apps, etc) and even the RAM usage is quite low (<300MB). I cant seem to figure out what could be causing this. Please help me.
PS: the notification drawer lags ONLY when there are no notifications or when there is a permanent notification. When I get a dismissable notification it doesnt resemble any lag at all!
Thanks.
Is it only with 4.4 ROM's?
isajoo said:
Is it only with 4.4 ROM's?
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Yes.
the phone is pooping itself because Google messed it up
droidnxs said:
It was still smooth until I leave work/home/travel somewhere.
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Me too (latest Cm11 nightly + Mpokang 1080p + Nephilim's settings)!!
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Shambola said:
Me too (latest Cm11 nightly + Mpokang 1080p + Nephilim's settings)!!
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Know that feel bro. If you run into any solution please post here or PM me. If this gets fixed it'll be the best thing to ever happen for our GNex. :fingers-crossed:
i'm on the 12-16 Nightly on CM 11 and i dont have any problems or lag ill keep you updated as i start to add apps and tweaks
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i'm on the 12-16 Nightly on CM 11 and i dont have any problems or lag ill keep you updated as i start to add apps and tweaks
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I'm also on a recent nightly, and although I don't *feel* any disturbing stutter in notification drawer, it isn't quite as smooth as what's on my Nex4. Now, as the OP has hinted, I tried getting a dismissable notification in the drawer and boom, the drawer is suddenly as smooth as hell - but only for seconds. Wondering why...
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I have loaded app and stuff and i still have not seen any sort of lag.
When you are flashing are you wiping the device correctly it may still have files that will slow it down.
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GalaxySubie said:
I have loaded app and stuff and i still have not seen any sort of lag.
When you are flashing are you wiping the device correctly it may still have files that will slow it down.
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I do a clean flash as I stated previously. Factory Reset, Wipe dalvik cache, system, cache, Flash ROM, Gapps (dhacker29's latest), and reboot. Since I use TiBackup to restore, I also download SuperSU from playstore just to update binaries and make TiB work, I uninstall superSU after that and use the built-in superuser app.
I got that problem too!firstly i thought i was a bluetooth issue as i turn on the bluetooth and the notification drawer become laggy.but after a while i found it laggy continually even if i turn off the bluetooth.it's really a annoying thing
geekbrain said:
I got that problem too!firstly i thought i was a bluetooth issue as i turn on the bluetooth and the notification drawer become laggy.but after a while i found it laggy continually even if i turn off the bluetooth.it's really a annoying thing
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I know right? Once I disabled Wifi optimization as it was on, and it got smooth again, but that wasn't the end. I went to work and pulled out my phone, and boom, its all laggy and stuttering again. A few hours back I gave KitKat another shot but this time it was laggy even after the clean install without any apps restored. This is the weirdest thing to ever happen to my GNex. Now I'm back on AOKP 4.3.1 M1 with Tiny Kernel 5.4 with the smoothest android experience ever. Let's wait for the developers to take a look into this issue. :fingers-crossed:
Okay I think I found a solution. I tried 5 use-cases:
Flash method: Clean - Factory reset, wipe dalvik cache & cache, wipe ROM, flash ROM, gapps
1. CM11 ROM with built-in kernel
2. CM11 ROM with Tiny 5.4 kernel
3. CM11 ROM with built-in kernel
4. CM10.2.0 (stable) ROM with built-in kernel
5. CM10.2.0 (stable) ROM with Tiny 5.4 kernel
I noted that when I did not flash a 3rd party kernel the issue seemed to persist even at first start-up. But when I flashed a 3rd party kernel (be it any compatible kernel) there was absolutely no lag at all. But then the question of why I tested it on CM10.2 ROM is because I found the same notification drawer lag on CM10.2 (official) ROM. Maybe this started after the ram-disk was changed? (I'll leave that for the developers to decide).
Note: I'm currently on Gummy 21-12-13 build with Tiny 5.4 kernel, ART enabled. When I started off to work today I wanted to switch to 3G and when I did so the lag was back, but after it found a signal tower it disappeared. I have found no lag so far.
Something off-topic : But commonly throughout these tests, I found that these ROM's exhibited terrible lag when using live wallpaper.
If someone (facing the same issue as stated in the OP) can confirm that the above solution works, it will help alleviate the problem.
Edit: Also found in tricksterMOD that the deep-sleep mode was in the 'unused states' category.
Bump
Okay I guess the problem hasn't been quite solved yet, bumping so people can have a look at this.
Update:
In the recent builds notification drawer lags only when I'm not on Wifi no matter what KK ROM+Kernel combo I try.
droidnxs said:
Okay I guess the problem hasn't been quite solved yet, bumping so people can have a look at this.
Update:
In the recent builds notification drawer lags only when I'm not on Wifi no matter what KK ROM+Kernel combo I try.
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I'm on CM11 with Fancy kernel. I also see the lag when not on wifi. It really has not bothered me. The KK ROMs are still fairly new, so I would just give it some time.
Break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat ROM!
TheMan0790 said:
I'm on CM11 with Fancy kernel. I also see the lag when not on wifi. It really has not bothered me. The KK ROMs are still fairly new, so I would just give it some time.
Break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat ROM!
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I just wanted to confirm if it was really a bug or something that was specific to my phone. That confirmed the former, thanks!
Just wanted to add my thoughts on this. Are you guys using the Google Experience launcher with the "Ok Google" Hotword Detection? If so, turn off the hotword detection in settings. After doing that, I get no lag whatsoever in my notification drawer. I didnt use that feature that much anyway.
Still no dice on this issue? Not intentionally bumping, but I think this issue might have a deeper cause that requires more attention from devs.
I've read through the "suggestions" above and I can say that nothing works. What I have is a VERY clean CM11 + Franco r395 - no Gapps, no Google Experience Launcher, no Google Now (Google Search is force stopped and its shortcut removed), very few installed apps, no background apps except for input method, lots of free RAM (~520MB), yet this still happens. Only thing that removes the lag temporarily is an incoming notification, which only makes it smooth for seconds.
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Okay, tried many JB ROMs and they all don't have the lag. Try one of the KK ROMs and they come back immediately. Something with KK source?
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One more update: flashed latest CyanogenMod nightly (CM11 20140325) and I surprisingly discovered that the notif lag is gone. Turns out I'm wrong, as the lag is gone only in lockscreen and Trebuchet. However, on second thought, does this phenomenon mean that CM/Trebuchet recently implemented something that potentially removes the lag? What patch is it exactly, and why isn't it applied on other apps?
I still think that this "simple and bearable" problem has a darker side that requires more attention.
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[Q] Current fastest/most stable ROM?

Just a quick question for everybody! I've been using Liquid Nitro for a while now, but I'm getting a bit frustrated with the occasional spontaneous resets, and how slow it is. What does everyone here use, and what do you think is the best in terms of stability and speed?
Currently I am using sphinx rom. It is snappy ,good on battery, jelly bean. Be sure to apply both patches. I have found the kitkat to be unstable.
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Currently I am using sphinx rom. It is snappy ,good on battery, jelly bean. Be sure to apply both patches. I have found the kitkat to be unstable.
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You have an LG P930, right? is it this one?
i also use liquid nitro, and tried most other jb,kk roms, but always back to liquid for its stable.
the next stable rom for *my* p930 is cm 10.1.3.
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I used the version in this thread
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I used the version in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294709
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So it's fast, and works with my p930. Is it stable for you (no random restarts?)
It is better then CM, but it still has random reboots. I did not find the reboots to occur as frequently as CM
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So far, after changing the default language from Russian, I am finding Sphinx to be a lot faster and smoother than liquid nitro, though that might be because I don't have all my apps loaded yet. I also just experienced my first random reset (not even 6 hours! not looking good,) which put my phone into a boot loop (it gets to the lock screen, give a "system UI has crashed" error, and reboots,) that I fixed by pulling the battery.
AND SPEAKING OF THE BATTERY my phone now thinks my battery is at ~ %1-%5 power (it was at about %60 when I installed the ROM,) and is constantly telling me to plug it in, and the phone refuses to charge (it won't charge with any cable or wall adapter I have, and won't even recognize when I plug it into a computer.)
In short: lots of problems, but if I can fix them, I will probably keep sphinx.
*Edit: I just went and wiped everything (including battery information) in CWM and installed the "official unofficial" ROM from the same post. It seems so far to be decent (and it's charging the battery!) It's a bit laggy (like the stock ROM, but not as bad a Liquid Nitro got for me.) Tomorrow I will do the full data wipe again (including the battery info) and re-install sphinx to see if it helps.
In my P930, I use the last PAC-ROM, it gets me stability, battery friendly, smooth, it doest get lagged.
It's fully customizable, I recommend it.
The last version I installed is the nightly of 2014-03-28 or so.
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Don't forget to install both patches for sphinx.
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Also you should never need to yank battery, just unplug USB then hold Power down for 20 seconds.
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I'm looking at the Pac ROM releases, but I'm not sure which one to download (I'm not going to do nightly releases.)
keboose said:
I'm looking at the Pac ROM releases, but I'm not sure which one to download (I'm not going to do nightly releases.)
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Why dont you try the RC1?
because there are two labeled RC1?
Not the Milestone, but the pac-p930-22.2.0-rc1.zip
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Not the Milestone, but the pac-p930-22.2.0-rc1.zip
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Well, it's going (somewhat) well. With the stable release, I haven't had to restart yet, but there are still problems: mainly that the home button doesn't work. along with that, the "cLock" app keeps crashing, and gapps looks like it wasn't installed properly (no gapps except gmail are there, and it doesn't work.) Did you experience any of this with the nightly build you use?
I made doubly sure I installed the correct gapps zip, could it be I have an old version of CWM that's messing it up? I have CWM v6.0.1.5
Installl the gapps core only.
I didn't have any problems with the clock.
You did full swipe?
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gapps core? I installed the gapps they linked to in the official thread.
I followed their instructions as well: factory reset, flash ROM, flash gapps, reboot.
Never mind! I installed the nightly you said you use (03/29/2014) and it works! I'm loving kitkat. It's being a bit slow right now, but I'm hoping that's because the phone's been downloading the files for GTA 3 since I installed the ROM (and linked my google account) earlier today.
hey, I don't know what is going on, but I'm not finding any of these ROM's to be stable at all. They seem to work alright at first, but once I get my apps back, it all goes down the tubes. Even the Pac ROM, which so far has been the MOST stable, is frustrating to use. I found that my music player (PowerAmp) causes it to be a bit more unstable, but both it and the default music player often crash 'android.process.media' and then I have to reboot my phone.
Along with that, randomly, and frequently, when I try to wake my phone up from sleeping with the power button, the screen will just go black, the buttons will stop responding, and I have to pull the battery. This one is particularly frustrating because this morning my phone tried to turn on the screen to play an alarm and the phone locked up!
I've wiped my phone again and haven't installed any apps. Let's see if the problems still happen.
keboose said:
hey, I don't know what is going on, but I'm not finding any of these ROM's to be stable at all....
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I've had this phone since it came out. From my experience, ICS ROM's are the most stable, followed by JB ROMS, then KitKat ROMs. If you want the best stability, battery, and for daily use go with either stock ICS or one that's based on stock. The only problem with that is that you miss out on any of the new improvements in JB and KitKat. For daily use, non of the KitKat ROMs are stable enough. Currently, I'm running CM 10.1.3 with Wind Kernel 2.6. It's not as stable as ICS stock. I get random locks/restarts about once or twice a week. It does however offer the best compromise in stability and features/improvement over just running ICS ROMs. Specwise, this phone was ahead of the curve when it came out. But battery and performance issues kept this from being a good phone. Because it's not well used, there's very little support and development for this phone.

Looking for a custom rom so Hercules can be reborn

I have koodo variant of T989. I am presently using Samsung stock software... It has never run well. I have held back removing the stock software because it's the only phone I have...
I am looking to re-install my phone with custom rom so Hercules can be reborn.
I value stability more than features... I am thinking about Sultanxda - [ROM+KERNEL][4.4.4] Stable CyanogenMod 11 [May 16, 2015] ... since this was developed for a long time
Would this be the best choice for custom rom? I use GPS, mobile data and skype alot...
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice.
I would give Candy 5 a shot. It's Android v5.1.1 and is currently in stable status. I've been using it as my daily driver for about a month now with no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2-tmobile/development/rom-candy-5-hercules-t3062181
Thanks for feedback. Hercules has now been reborn. The Samsung Chains have been removed. Installed Candy 5 and it's night and day compared to stock I was running.
Glad that I could be of some assistance. If you're looking for a good theme go to settings - themes - get more - and look for Lazy Dark CM12 (if you're into dark themes that is).
Thx for the info. I will give that theme a shot. I am still playing around with Candy 5.
I am new to the community as well. So far, I have flashed Candy 5 and Paranoid 5.1.1 for my S2. I haven't tried out Candy 5 that much because I do not enough space on the phone. After I learned to reflash a pit file to repartition the phone, I went straight to Paranoid 5.1.1. But, I have some issues like rebooting and Sleep of Death so I am thinking about re-testing the Candy 5 to see if there are any major issue.
Another good rom that I want to try is the CM13 for S2 however it is still unstable so I will wait a bit more. i don't have enough posting so I couldn't post my feedback to the developer thread yet. Would you mind sharing experience w/ Candy 5 rom?
It has been working OK thus far Candy5. I do get occasional random reboots. If i am using an app sometimes I can't pick up a phone call.. Speed wise it runs well. I like the customization this rom can do. I have not modified the pit file.. I do have space issues since I am using the stock partitioning.. Overall the experience is still better than stock.
hockeyfan#01 said:
It has been working OK thus far Candy5. I do get occasional random reboots. If i am using an app sometimes I can't pick up a phone call.. Speed wise it runs well. I like the customization this rom can do. I have not modified the pit file.. I do have space issues since I am using the stock partitioning.. Overall the experience is still better than stock.
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Thanks for sharing. I believe if Candy 5 supports virtual partition, it will be great. I remembered when I used Candy 5 without re-partitioning, I could not install many apps because of space on Galaxy S2.
Updated on the sleep of death, if i use double tap on the status bar, it didn't cause sleep of death at all. Use the power button causes more incidents of SOD for Paranoid 5.1.1
hockeyfan#01 said:
I have koodo variant of T989. I am presently using Samsung stock software... It has never run well. I have held back removing the stock software because it's the only phone I have...
I am looking to re-install my phone with custom rom so Hercules can be reborn.
I value stability more than features... I am thinking about Sultanxda - [ROM+KERNEL][4.4.4] Stable CyanogenMod 11 [May 16, 2015] ... since this was developed for a long time
Would this be the best choice for custom rom? I use GPS, mobile data and skype alot...
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice.
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CandySix is out. It's in Alpha stage but I've been using it for a few days. It's faster and stable. I don't know about koodo but I'm using T-mobile variant. Check it out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2-tmobile/development/rom-candysix-hercules-t3283291
Update
Unofficial CM13 dated 01-21-2016 without installing OpenGAPPs works great (Calling works) however when I install the OpenGapps (stock) and I couldn't make a call.
Candy 6.0.1 (01-22-2016) works great too. I installed the modified BANK Gapps on the #2 post and so far it is running well except the phone couldn't locate wifi when I checked the phone this morning.
Thx for feedback. This is really helpful. I am planning to reinstall my phone with candy six when I have chance. It is confirmed to be compatible.
hockeyfan#01 said:
Thx for feedback. This is really helpful. I am planning to reinstall my phone with candy six when I have chance. It is confirmed to be compatible.
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I am using the newer built Candy Six (1/25/2016) which has less reboot than the older built. But both CM13 and Candy 6 suffer "no service" if the phone was left in airplane mode for too long or when the phone could find any signal but so far I am happy. The unofficial CM13 also released newer built as well however i haven't had chance to try it out. I will give you more feed back soon.
sleepyg72786 said:
I would give Candy 5 a shot. It's Android v5.1.1 and is currently in stable status. I've been using it as my daily driver for about a month now with no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2-tmobile/development/rom-candy-5-hercules-t3062181
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Have you had any issues with 'sleep of death'? I've tried several Lollipop ROMs for hercules and all have had this problem. I haven't tried Candy 5 yet, wondering if I should bother.
I have had repeated issues where phone random reboot when low on batteries. Other than that seems to be good. Aldo the space issue . I am going to move to candy six soon. Virtual partitioning will a huge difference especially when installing large applications
hockeyfan#01 said:
I have had repeated issues where phone random reboot when low on batteries. Other than that seems to be good. Aldo the space issue . I am going to move to candy six soon. Virtual partitioning will a huge difference especially when installing large applications
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Have you ever tried using Odin to install a custom PIT? It's quite nice to have several gigs for apps.
chuggybeer said:
Have you ever tried using Odin to install a custom PIT? It's quite nice to have several gigs for apps.
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In linux operating system, like android, partitions are mounted and they appears as folders. The virtual partition method organized partitions more efficiently. For exampleexample, originally the firmware partition was 512 MB and it remapped to larger partition, probably 2GB and it is considered a lot for the Operating System. It probably remap the application folders to use the original internal storage space. Virtual partition is more flexible than PIT. I have used PIT before but recently changed when I try Candy 6 and CM13.
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hockeyfan#01 said:
I have had repeated issues where phone random reboot when low on batteries. Other than that seems to be good. Aldo the space issue . I am going to move to candy six soon. Virtual partitioning will a huge difference especially when installing large applications
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Candy 6 still has random reboot too. With CM 13 I just recently experience reboot after using Skype video call. I do not know what happened.
The new unofficial CM13 build was released recently, I will to install this weekend.
Lineage 14.1 is the ROM to use.... Phone runs much better now... I am now able to use it as a backup. I will actually take this phone if I am going to a waterpark..
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Anyone else unable to find a stable ROM for their M8?

I've had my M8 for about a year now and rooted it almost right away. I've been rooting my phones for years, since my HTC Incredible!
I've had about 4-5 different ROMs on my phone in this past year from CM to Revolution HD and Sky Dragon. But ALL of them seem to have the same issues. After a certain amount of time, maybe a week or maybe a month, they ALL start to get really, really laggy. I swear I've wiped and re-loaded my phone at least a dozen times so far!
For example, if I try to open Gmail or Chrome, it could take upwards of 5 seconds to actually pull up the program. Sometimes it's so bad, I have to force a reboot by holding power+volume up because the phone just won't respond to anything.
I've tried to go into apps and see the running programs, but most of the time either nothing special is running besides system type apps or it will just hang for minutes and I eventually force a reboot.
Am I the only one who is having such problems with these ROMs? Could I have gotten a bum phone? Is there some sort of diagnostics that I can run to make sure the CPU/Memory/etc. is working properly?
I'm at a loss right now. I nearly threw my phone across the room onto the concrete floor yesterday because it was so unusable all day.
Please help me figure out what's going on here, I'm at my wits end with this BS!
ned4spd8874 said:
I've had my M8 for about a year now and rooted it almost right away. I've been rooting my phones for years, since my HTC Incredible!
I've had about 4-5 different ROMs on my phone in this past year from CM to Revolution HD and Sky Dragon. But ALL of them seem to have the same issues. After a certain amount of time, maybe a week or maybe a month, they ALL start to get really, really laggy. I swear I've wiped and re-loaded my phone at least a dozen times so far!
For example, if I try to open Gmail or Chrome, it could take upwards of 5 seconds to actually pull up the program. Sometimes it's so bad, I have to force a reboot by holding power+volume up because the phone just won't respond to anything.
I've tried to go into apps and see the running programs, but most of the time either nothing special is running besides system type apps or it will just hang for minutes and I eventually force a reboot.
Am I the only one who is having such problems with these ROMs? Could I have gotten a bum phone? Is there some sort of diagnostics that I can run to make sure the CPU/Memory/etc. is working properly?
I'm at a loss right now. I nearly threw my phone across the room onto the concrete floor yesterday because it was so unusable all day.
Please help me figure out what's going on here, I'm at my wits end with this BS!
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Have you tried ViperOneM8?
The latest ROM (4.5.1) is a port of Sense 7 from the M9, but still has some small bugs to iron out. They are being addressed and will be fixed in the next update.
If you were to flash v4.3.0, you would get a stable ROM with lots of customizing options. It is Lollipop as well, but still on the official Sense 6 framework.
xunholyx said:
Have you tried ViperOneM8?
The latest ROM (4.5.1) is a port of Sense 7 from the M9, but still has some small bugs to iron out. They are being addressed and will be fixed in the next update.
If you were to flash v4.3.0, you would get a stable ROM with lots of customizing options. It is Lollipop as well, but still on the official Sense 6 framework.
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Yep, tried that one. I think it was one of my first ones actually (I actually donated to it!). Ran that one for about 6 months before giving up and moving on.
Dirty Unicorns works well for me, I have never experienced lags but updates are always available so the longest DU rom that stayed on phone was about 3 weeks.
Latest current version is official v9.6 android 5.1.1
Also you could try fstrim app on your current rom.
crackerjack1957 said:
Dirty Unicorns works well for me, I have never experienced lags but updates are always available so the longest DU rom that stayed on phone was about 3 weeks.
Latest current version is official v9.6 android 5.1.1
Also you could try fstrim app on your current rom.
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Thanks, I'm running CM 12.1 right now and really don't want to install yet another ROM. I'm to the point that if this doesn't work I'll just bring it back to stock and suffer with that or buy a new [email protected] phone!
I did try to run the fstrim app (didn't know about this), but it won't run. Says my system isn't supported.
The ViperOneM8 would be a really good ROM to use. Used it from the start, till moving on to my HTC One M9.
To ensure it always runs stable you got to update your firmware sometimes to match the base the developers are using for theire ROM. Did you always do and take care of this point!?
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Thanks, I'm running CM 12.1 right now and really don't want to install yet another ROM. I'm to the point that if this doesn't work I'll just bring it back to stock and suffer with that or buy a new [email protected] phone!
I did try to run the fstrim app (didn't know about this), but it won't run. Says my system isn't supported.
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Always have a backup just in case!!!
Flash pie patch for fstrim to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2821644&d=1403933203
More info why you need pie patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/fix-bypassing-pie-security-check-t2797731
I just came from Razr this year to M8
Stayed with CM11 thru CM12.1 on the Razr up until about this time last year(kept trying up to cm12.1 on other slots until 3/12/15). The whole time the phone would become very laggy after about a week just as you are experiencing now. It was very frustrating & I know how you feel. Tried Liquid Smooth & it was a lot better with no lag but a few bugs, then stayed with AOKP rom until about March of this year,this was the best rom for me on the razr.
Wanted a faster phone because razr was 4 years old & was thinking hardware was just to old for performance.
So my friend DumbleDore suggest M8 running Dirty Unicorns & I have great phone!!!
Had a few issues with screen turning on while in my pocket(stock did it also) but smac0628 told me to turn off ambient display & that issue is resolved.
If Dirty Unicorns does not work for you then it has to be hardware on the phone.
You should try before buying another phone!!!
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/files/m8/Official/DU_m8_5.1.1_20150814-0142.v9.6-OFFICIAL.zip
More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/orig-development/rom-dirty-unicorns-5-0-2-htc-one-m8-03-t3052466
crackerjack1957 said:
Always have a backup just in case!!!
Flash pie patch for fstrim to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2821644&d=1403933203
More info why you need pie patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/fix-bypassing-pie-security-check-t2797731
I just came from Razr this year to M8
Stayed with CM11 thru CM12.1 on the Razr up until about this time last year(kept trying up to cm12.1 on other slots until 3/12/15). The whole time the phone would become very laggy after about a week just as you are experiencing now. It was very frustrating & I know how you feel. Tried Liquid Smooth & it was a lot better with no lag but a few bugs, then stayed with AOKP rom until about March of this year,this was the best rom for me on the razr.
Wanted a faster phone because razr was 4 years old & was thinking hardware was just to old for performance.
So my friend DumbleDore suggest M8 running Dirty Unicorns & I have great phone!!!
Had a few issues with screen turning on while in my pocket(stock did it also) but smac0628 told me to turn off ambient display & that issue is resolved.
If Dirty Unicorns does not work for you then it has to be hardware on the phone.
You should try before buying another phone!!!
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/files/m8/Official/DU_m8_5.1.1_20150814-0142.v9.6-OFFICIAL.zip
More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/orig-development/rom-dirty-unicorns-5-0-2-htc-one-m8-03-t3052466
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Thanks, I flashed the pie patch, but that broke CM, it was stuck at the boot animation. I did make a backup, but decided to wipe and install DU for the heck of it. I don't have very high hopes to be honest after all these problems I've been having. I'm also hesitant to try to install the pie patch on DU...we'll see.
Fingers crossed that this all works!
Update: Welp, that was stupid, tried to install the pie patch on DU and it does the same thing; just stays on the boot animation. Dirty flashing the DU ROM seems to have brought it back to life without totally re-flashing.
I've never seen this issue. I'd suggest it has nothing to do with the roms, but more to do with apps installed and possibly also caches.
Yes, a clean install of anything will clean up things and all will be smooth. After time, certain apps and/or full caches can bog things down.
Your setup will determine smoothness also.
Just my opinion... But again, I've never had any rom slow down and lag after any amount of time. But my phone is lean as far as apps and setup go. And housekeeping is strict. :good:
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks, I flashed the pie patch, but that broke CM, it was stuck at the boot animation. I did make a backup, but decided to wipe and install DU for the heck of it. I don't have very high hopes to be honest after all these problems I've been having. I'm also hesitant to try to install the pie patch on DU...we'll see.
Fingers crossed that this all works!
Update: Welp, that was stupid, tried to install the pie patch on DU and it does the same thing; just stays on the boot animation. Dirty flashing the DU ROM seems to have brought it back to life without totally re-flashing.
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Sorry about the piepatch link, thought it would have been good.
I have pulled the one I am using from my sd-card on phone & know it works, have used many times.
Here is the upload:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ms7l9xk27rw3fzd
I do not use facebook app, if you need it I would recommend the lite version.
If you need I will try to find for you.
crackerjack1957 said:
Sorry about the piepatch link, thought it would have been good.
I have pulled the one I am using from my sd-card on phone & know it works, have used many times.
Here is the upload:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ms7l9xk27rw3fzd
I do not use facebook app, if you need it I would recommend the lite version.
If you need I will try to find for you.
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Thanks, that one works!!!
I'm still trying to understand this app and what it does though. So, by default, /data and /cache are checked, but /system is not. Is there a reason to not run this for the /system partition?
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks, that one works!!!
I'm still trying to understand this app and what it does though. So, by default, /data and /cache are checked, but /system is not. Is there a reason to not run this for the /system partition?
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Check all partitions, I think some roms or phones have a problem trimming system partition the reason it is not checked by default.
Its my understanding that android 4.3 & latter support trim & run automatically under certain circumstances.
http://www.xda-developers.com/yet-another-reason-to-update-to-android-4-3-trim-support/
The apps just let you control trim manually or schedule trim when you want to.
Trim is also on ssd's(solid state drives) that took the place of hdd's that could be defragged to speed up OS.
Dirty Unicorns has always been fast for me & trim was not needed because of quick updates.:good:
crackerjack1957 said:
Check all partitions, I think some roms or phones have a problem trimming system partition the reason it is not checked by default.
Its my understanding that android 4.3 & latter support trim & run automatically under certain circumstances.
http://www.xda-developers.com/yet-another-reason-to-update-to-android-4-3-trim-support/
The apps just let you control trim manually or schedule trim when you want to.
Trim is also on ssd's(solid state drives) that took the place of hdd's that could be defragged to speed up OS.
Dirty Unicorns has always been fast for me & trim was not needed because of quick updates.:good:
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Thanks for all the help so far!
Something is still wrong...still locking up and being unresponsive. Just going through and deleting apps until it starts behaving...what a pain! I still don't get it though, it's not like I have new apps, these are the same that I've always been using. Dunno.
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks for all the help so far!
Something is still wrong...still locking up and being unresponsive. Just going through and deleting apps until it starts behaving...what a pain! I still don't get it though, it's not like I have new apps, these are the same that I've always been using. Dunno.
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Ok sounds like you have proved it not being a rom issue & think you may be on the right track by eliminating apps that could cause issues(slow & pain-in-the-a**).
I know you been doing this for a while but is firmware & TWRP up to date?
Also when changing roms do you wipe all that is needed before install?
crackerjack1957 said:
Ok sounds like you have proved it not being a rom issue & think you may be on the right track by eliminating apps that could cause issues(slow & pain-in-the-a**).
I know you been doing this for a while but is firmware & TWRP up to date?
Also when changing roms do you wipe all that is needed before install?
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Latest TWRP and yes, I do believe those are the settings I use when wiping.
One thing I have noticed is that when it does get slow, opening up the recent apps and clearing them seems to help performance. That is, when it's responsive enough to bring up that screen.
About two days and still no luck. Decided to wipe and resist installing any extra programs for now. Running bare bones sucks and it's boring!
I removed about 20 programs and none made a difference. Started with the obvious ones that would/could run in the background like Facebook, but that didn't matter. The only thing that worked every time to help with performance was closing all the recent apps.
Now I'm going to run as bare as I can until at least tomorrow evening and slowly install apps...
ned4spd8874 said:
About two days and still no luck. Decided to wipe and resist installing any extra programs for now. Running bare bones sucks and it's boring!
I removed about 20 programs and none made a difference. Started with the obvious ones that would/could run in the background like Facebook, but that didn't matter. The only thing that worked every time to help with performance was closing all the recent apps.
Now I'm going to run as bare as I can until at least tomorrow evening and slowly install apps...
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The ROMs that you have mentioned that you have tried are all pretty much as stable as can be. I'm going to say here that it is either user caused, or you are expecting too much.
Do you think there will never be issues? It happens on stock as well.
xunholyx said:
The ROMs that you have mentioned that you have tried are all pretty much as stable as can be. I'm going to say here that it is either user caused, or you are expecting too much.
Do you think there will never be issues? It happens on stock as well.
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I understand that there will always be issues. But the phone shouldn't lock up totally while doing simple things such as opening email or turning wi-fi off. Last week I was at a point where I had to force reboot my phone just about every time I tried to do something because it was so unresponsive. That is not normal nor acceptable.
I've been running SkyDragon for weeks, dirty flashed and I have loads of crap on mine. I have absolutely no issues with lag, locking up or any other kind of anomaly.
No different to stock Tbh.
I very rarely reboot, I use All-in-one toolbox to disable unnecessary apps from start up and the excellent Extended settings with Xposed.
ashyx said:
I've been running SkyDragon for weeks, dirty flashed and I have loads of crap on mine. I have absolutely no issues with lag, locking up or any other kind of anomaly.
No different to stock Tbh.
I very rarely reboot, I use All-in-one toolbox to disable unnecessary apps from start up and the excellent Extended settings with Xposed.
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