I know, many people here want to have Android 4.x.x on their phones, but unfortunately, because of low-end processor as well as less RAM, these CM10/CM10.1 ROMs are laggy and slow. I am also one of them, but, after using these type of roms since 4 months, I have now got a perfect idea of using them. So, I am sharing the way I use these roms. Many people told that this also helps for CM7 users. So, now I have declared this thread as UNIVERSAL PERFORMANCE THREAD. This method can be used on - Stock | CM7/9/10/10.1.
NOTE : This thread is mainly from galaxy mini forums. But, I have posted it here also, so that Gio users also get its benefits.
NOTE : This method is same for PAC ROMS.. because they are based on CM. So, you can use this on PAC ROMs also.
♦ FINDING STABLE VERSION :
First of all, you will need to find a good stable version of any CM7\CM9\CM10\CM10.1 ROM. Find stable version by asking in general discussion thread of those particular ROM and then download that version. But, do not flash now.. Follow next step.
Note : For CM7 users - Official CM7 is best, but if you want you can try it on custom roms also. If you are using CM7 custom or stock based custom rom, then for scripts n tweaks to work, you must delete all the scripts from init.d so that scripts will not get overridden.
♦ SLIMMING THE ROM :
Slimming means making rom size less by removing unwanted and unnecessary applications from system/app. It reduces system memory use. Here is a chart of cm10.1 apps which are safe to remove - LINK
With reference to that chart you should remove following apps with adding alternatives to them.
Note: Left side apps are to be removed and right side apps are alternatives.
● LatinIME.apk - WP7 Keyboard App
● Browser.apk - Holo Web Browser
● CMFileManager.apk - Root Explorer File Manager
● Trebuchet.apk - Holo Launcher
NOTE: On CM7, default ADW is good, but you can also use Holo Launcher.
Other apps that can be removed without alternatives-
● CalendarProvider.apk - One of the big RAM consuming apps. This app start anytime, you do anything, so it will be a big save of memory removing this app. But, you will get problems with calendar sync..
● GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter.apk - Reomove this only if you do not sync calendar.
● Email.apk - If not in use.
● Gmail.apk - If not in use.
● Talk.apk - If not in use.
● GoogleBackupTransport.apk - It is used in google backups, remove on your own risk. (Not a risk, i always remove it.)
● ChromeBookmarkSyncAdapter - No use.
● HTMLViewer.apk - Never needed.
● UserDictionaryProvider.apk - It is useless without LatinIME.apk.
● VisualizationWallpapers.apk - Wallpapers app. Remove it always.
● CMWallpapers - Remove it always.
● VoiceDialer.apk - Do you really use it?
● LiveWallpapers.apk - Dont you care for your battery?
● QuickSearchBox.apk - If you dont use.
● PicoTTS.apk - Text to speech function.
NOTE: Alternative apps should always be installed in system/app only. For that, I recommend you to remove these apps drectly from rom's zip before flashing.
♦ USE OF SCRIPTS N TWEAKS :
Many people use hard scripts n many tweaks to get good performance. But, it is totally wrong.
Highly recommended to use Activo Speeder. It is the best script for performance. Dont use anyother thing with it- such as ram manager, seeder or anyother script.
(Note: If the above script doesnt work on your device then please find another good script and flash it.)
IT IS RECOMMENDED TO USE SUPERCHARGER ON ICS\JB :
After testing a lot, I found that SuperCharger is the best script which can be used with any ROM to get more performance and for perfect RAM Management. Here are some steps on how to use SuperCharger -
● Here is the original thread for SuperCharger script.
● Script can be downloaded from this download page.
● Download latest script as well as starter package if needed (Read Original Thread).
● Now, for 4.x.x ROMs, you do not need to do anything with services.jar. But, for below 4.x.x, services.jar needs to be patched to get SuperCharger Memory Management working.
● Now, copy script to SDcard and run it with Script Manager as root. For more detailed guide plz prefer the original supercharger thread.
● Now, you are running the script. You will find many options and info on screen. Read it all and choose what you want.
NEW DISCOVERY : SUPERCHARGER + CROSSBREEDER = ULTIMATE PERFORMANCE WITH MAX ENTROPY ! - by Dark Passenger
● LINK FOR THE POST.
Here are some tweaks-
In Build.prop -
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Code:
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
and change the value from 0 to 1. (Add the line with proper value if does not exist)
This one is for battery saving.
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Code:
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=48m
If it already exists then just match the values.
This is a VM Heap management for RAM.
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Code:
ro.ext4fs = 1
Improves EXT4 performance.
● IMP :
Add following lines below "# Other" in build.prop
Code:
ro.com.google.locationfeatures=0
ro.com.google.networklocation=0
(If exists, just change the values as above).
(Note: This one will remove location feature increasing performance freeing up more RAM. This frees up to 30mb of RAM)
And now remove NetworkLocation.apk from system/app as well as com.android.location.provider.jar from /system/framework.
For further build.prop tweaking, you can use this great guide -> Click Here. Thanks to Dark Passenger for some build.prop tweaks.
This much tweaking and scripting is enough. DONT USE TOO MUCH TWEAKS N SCRIPTS.
♦ BASIC APPS TO USE :
Your rom's performance also depends on the apps which you use. Always look for apps' memory usage and if the app consumes more ram then try to find an alternative app for it. Here are some basic apps which you should use (i always use them).
● Use Root Explorer as file manager, Holo Launcher as Launcher.
● Use Cache Cleaner App. It is must. Clean cache once a day.
● Use Root Cleaner App. A must have app. Do "Quick Cleaning" twice a day. It will regulate your performance.
You can also freeze the apps you are not using at that time, such as DSPManager (Unfreeze it only at the time of listening songs)
Freezing Google Apps will be a great way to reduce RAM consumption.
● Use this amazing app - Autostarts. This app controls the apps that start automatically in your phone. If you want settings which I use then PM me. I will tell you, how to use this app.
CLICK HERE FOR AUTOSTART APP SETTINGS
● ABOUT TASK KILLERS :
Using task killer is good but, it is also bad. Task killing is actually meaningless. Some apps never really get killed. They start again n again. So, use Autostarts instead task killers. But, here is a nice app for killing processes and freeing RAM. This is the original app. I have themed it to look good. Download it here.
Use it as a task killer, press menu button and include system processes and then start killing processes which are useless.
● Try to use apps as system apps.
● If you are using UC Browser then in its settings, check "Clear Data on Exit". If did, you will see UC will take less than 10mb but, if you wont do this, UC will take more than 15mb.
♦ IMPORTANT TIPS AND SETTINGS :
● Always flash rom with a clean wipe and proper flashing method.
● Do not flash gapps again if they are included in the rom.
● Do not flash internal memory scripts as they reduce performance.
● Use Adrenaline Boost. Boost once or twice a day. Boosting much will increase battery consumption.
● Use Root Cleaner app and freeze the apps which you are not using at that time. Freeze Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and other google apps which are always on. Unfreeze them when you want.
● The apps used for Backup purposes should not be installed always. Keep them in your sdcard and install them when you want and uninstall when done with them.
● Basic apps should always be in system/app.
● In Developer Options -
Set all animations scale to .5x
Set Background Process Limit to "Atmost 4 processes", if issues occur then set it back to "Standard Limit".
Enable "Kill App Back Button". Always use this feature to come out of the apps which do not really exit on pressing just back button.
● Do not expect much from our phone as it is not a high-end phone. Dont expect good battery life but, still to gain good battery life. Keep RAM free by using the ProcessKiller app as told above. I always get 170 mb RAM free.
● Do not charge battery until it gets discharged upto 10% or less. While charging do not remove it till it reaches 100% and 20 mins above that.
● Calibrate battery when needed.
● Avoid use of apps which are always running either in background or foreground.
● Press thanks. .
Thanks! I'm definetely going to try this out, even though I'm not running JB but ICS.
Deleting unneeded apps works on every Android version I think, and ActivoSpeeder works on ICS too, so I'm happy!
StiQuezNL said:
Thanks! I'm definetely going to try this out, even though I'm not running JB but ICS. Deleting unneeded apps works on every Android version I think, and ActivoSpeeder works on ICS too, so I'm happy!
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As I hv mentioned in the title.. this method is for all ROMs.. It is not needed that you should be running JB only.. it is for all...
Noobwithdumbquestions said:
this made everything a lot more laggy and gmail stopped syncing... Also takes about 3 times as long to boot.
No offence, but this is pretty terrible. And after doing some actual research a lot of the "tweaks" you talk about here are never proven effective and frowned upon by actual experts. Even in the article you linked the writer says that something like dalvik heapsize is not something you should or have to change.
I would advice anyone to NOT waste any time on this.
ps: the last part (under tips and settings) is actually some good advice, although the background process limit is not saved in CM10 (and the max.mem tweak doesnt work), so you'll need to do that everytime at startup
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please dude if you don't know how to tweak you can go i don't use this guide but it's a good one maybe you installed all those thing over a already tweaked rom, this guide if for clean stock, cm7/9/10/10.1
Nice guide...but I think you are wrong about the services.jar. You have to patch it when you use ICS or Jelly Bean, not on GB. And there is no Official CM7 on Gio.
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please dude if you don't know how to tweak you can go i don't use this guide but it's a good one maybe you installed all those thing over a already tweaked rom, this guide if for clean stock, cm7/9/10/10.1
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I applied it on a clean cm10.1 twice, had the same results, twice. I am not trying to talk down on someone elses work, but the fact is that some of the "tweaks" he talks about are never proven and often based on urban myths and the perception of people who applied them and saw improvement (placebo effect). fwiw, OP himself links to an article that busts some of the myths about tweaks, he tells people to apply...
So, maybe my device didnt start to lag more, in fact, it might have been more stable... however, setting the fs.file-max too big (as is one of the many things that activo script does) will make it less responsive, like there is a 100ms sleep between every action... I also experienced that with manual sysctl.
And some other tweaks that do work are still not great for everyone because they got other side effects that are not mentioned anywhere in this article. I got no idea why sync started giving errors and gmail stopped updating (twice) after these tweaks, but they did....
I am completely new to android, and should've done more research before blindly following some article that states to have some magical cure. But I am not new to linux and it seems this community suffers from the same kind of idiosyncrasies at the bottom end, where people constantly try to fix **** that isnt actually broken.
I'm talking about tweaks here obv, removing gapps. bloatware and lowering requirements for the OS is obv fine...
When someone's Gio lags, it's probably because they want to do stuff with it it's not made for, it's a slow device with minimal specs that does the pure core tasks as pda, phone, messenger and email, and as long as you do those it'll be fine. If you want more, buy a better phone. If it's that important to you and you dont have money, learn to appreciate what is actually important in life.
Nuff said.
Noobwithdumbquestions said:
I applied it on a clean cm10.1 twice, had the same results, twice. I am not trying to talk down on someone elses work, but the fact is that some of the "tweaks" he talks about are never proven and often based on urban myths and the perception of people who applied them and saw improvement (placebo effect). fwiw, OP himself links to an article that busts some of the myths about tweaks, he tells people to apply...
So, maybe my device didnt start to lag more, in fact, it might have been more stable... however, setting the fs.file-max too big (as is one of the many things that activo script does) will make it less responsive, like there is a 100ms sleep between every action... I also experienced that with manual sysctl.
And some other tweaks that do work are still not great for everyone because they got other side effects that are not mentioned anywhere in this article. I got no idea why sync started giving errors and gmail stopped updating (twice) after these tweaks, but they did....
I am completely new to android, and should've done more research before blindly following some article that states to have some magical cure. But I am not new to linux and it seems this community suffers from the same kind of idiosyncrasies at the bottom end, where people constantly try to fix **** that isnt actually broken.
I'm talking about tweaks here obv, removing gapps. bloatware and lowering requirements for the OS is obv fine...
When someone's Gio lags, it's probably because they want to do stuff with it it's not made for, it's a slow device with minimal specs that does the pure core tasks as pda, phone, messenger and email, and as long as you do those it'll be fine. If you want more, buy a better phone. If it's that important to you and you dont have money, learn to appreciate what is actually important in life.
Nuff said.
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Look in signature, this thread is also there for Fit as well as Mini and is getting good response all over.. but you are the first one to complain on this. My advice to you- DO NOT USE THIS DO NOT POST HERE!
Some of your sayings are correct but, still this is the best way to increase performance. You might have did something wrong because this has been researched by me and some other people that this guide is perfect for low activity devices like ace, fit, mini, but if you dont want to use then dont use. I have NO PROBLEM.(I really dont get money or anything for this). lol..
FlemishDroid said:
Nice guide...but I think you are wrong about the services.jar. You have to patch it when you use ICS or Jelly Bean, not on GB. And there is no Official CM7 on Gio.
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Yeah services.jar needs to be patched on ics and jellybean only. I didnt knew that official cm7 is not there for gio.. I dont own this device. sorry.
Noobwithdumbquestions said:
I applied it on a clean cm10.1 twice, had the same results, twice. I am not trying to talk down on someone elses work, but the fact is that some of the "tweaks" he talks about are never proven and often based on urban myths and the perception of people who applied them and saw improvement (placebo effect). fwiw, OP himself links to an article that busts some of the myths about tweaks, he tells people to apply...
So, maybe my device didnt start to lag more, in fact, it might have been more stable... however, setting the fs.file-max too big (as is one of the many things that activo script does) will make it less responsive, like there is a 100ms sleep between every action... I also experienced that with manual sysctl.
And some other tweaks that do work are still not great for everyone because they got other side effects that are not mentioned anywhere in this article. I got no idea why sync started giving errors and gmail stopped updating (twice) after these tweaks, but they did....
I am completely new to android, and should've done more research before blindly following some article that states to have some magical cure. But I am not new to linux and it seems this community suffers from the same kind of idiosyncrasies at the bottom end, where people constantly try to fix **** that isnt actually broken.
I'm talking about tweaks here obv, removing gapps. bloatware and lowering requirements for the OS is obv fine...
When someone's Gio lags, it's probably because they want to do stuff with it it's not made for, it's a slow device with minimal specs that does the pure core tasks as pda, phone, messenger and email, and as long as you do those it'll be fine. If you want more, buy a better phone. If it's that important to you and you dont have money, learn to appreciate what is actually important in life.
Nuff said.
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okay go step by step and tell me what is it that is actually bothering you about the tweaking.(talk only about supercharger method not activ speedo).
yes most of the tweaks are utter bull**** The tweaks in the op(build prop ones are actually proven read the article again).As for dalvik size its recommended to keep a size around 48 so that you processes don't need to split their dalvik heaps into two separate piles thus reducing ram consumption.
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okay go step by step and tell me what is it that is actually bothering you about the tweaking.(talk only about supercharger method not activ speedo).
yes most of the tweaks are utter bull**** The tweaks in the op(build prop ones are actually proven read the article again).As for dalvik size its recommended to keep a size around 48 so that you processes don't need to split their dalvik heaps into two separate piles thus reducing ram consumption.
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I didnt use the supercharger method... The OP says the activo speedo is recommended, and the supercharger method is proposed as an alternative... I already said what problem I had with it (the response thing, and believe me or not, to me this difference is obvious and makes sense, I was able to reproduce it with just changing some of the same sysctl settings myself) but I wouldnt be surprised if there were more as it seems to do a buttload of things.
As far as the heapsize goes, I am not basing my conclusions on anything other than the OP's own link, which says things like:
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit and dalvik.vm.heapsize - BUSTED,
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This is one property that has cropped up recently in various build.prop recommendations for ICS. Typical suggested values range from “48m” all the way up to “256m”, likely motivated by the common misconception that more is better. The real purpose of this property is much less obvious than one might initially guess. It is also another one you should probably avoid changing.
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Should you change this setting? Probably not.
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Maybe you are right, I dont know all the technical implications, and I got no way to check it other than to test it and I see no difference in ram consumption if I change this property.
The ro.power.dissable thing might shut off wifi when in deep sleep and jumps back to mobile (I think, it happened after applying all tweaks and it seems the most likely thing to do that), but whatever causes that, you should warn people about that sort of thing as it can cost them money..
I didnt use it for long and I'm not an expert, i'm just sharing my findings, people can make up their own mind about it and share their experiences as well..
OJ said:
Look in signature, this thread is also there for Fit as well as Mini and is getting good response all over.. but you are the first one to complain on this. My advice to you- DO NOT USE THIS DO NOT POST HERE!
Some of your sayings are correct but, still this is the best way to increase performance. You might have did something wrong because this has been researched by me and some other people that this guide is perfect for low activity devices like ace, fit, mini, but if you dont want to use then dont use. I have NO PROBLEM.(I really dont get money or anything for this). lol..
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Sorry, I didnt mean to offend you in any way and appreciate your effort... But telling me to stop posting just because I'm critical seems pretty backwards. If you only want people to say thanks and be greatful all the time, maybe you should start sharing horse pictures on a hello kitty forum...
I'm just sharing my experience and my problems might be related to my rom and it could very well work great on other phones or other roms... But I used a clean cm10.1, the CM10.1 rom almost everyone with a Gio uses, so I'd think it's still important to bring up my findings...
Noobwithdumbquestions said:
I didnt use the supercharger method... The OP says the activo speedo is recommended, and the supercharger method is proposed as an alternative... I already said what problem I had with it (the response thing, and believe me or not, to me this difference is obvious and makes sense, I was able to reproduce it with just changing some of the same sysctl settings myself) but I wouldnt be surprised if there were more as it seems to do a buttload of things.
As far as the heapsize goes, I am not basing my conclusions on anything other than the OP's own link, which says things like:
Maybe you are right, I dont know all the technical implications, and I got no way to check it other than to test it and I see no difference in ram consumption if I change this property.
The ro.power.dissable thing might shut off wifi when in deep sleep and jumps back to mobile (I think, it happened after applying all tweaks and it seems the most likely thing to do that), but whatever causes that, you should warn people about that sort of thing as it can cost them money..
I didnt use it for long and I'm not an expert, i'm just sharing my findings, people can make up their own mind about it and share their experiences as well..
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the ro.power.disable.ril actually causes the phones radio to go to sleep so if your mobile data is off there is no reason to switch on rather the wifi might switch off(devs already stated so) and again switch back on once you get out of deep sleep.
its a good thing that you are coming back to provide a feedback and is appreciated(at least should be).
the change for dalvik.vm larger than 48 only allows the heap to grow to that value then split into a new heap since we can't/shouldn't/don't use apps with such a large memory footprint the chances of a split occurring post 48mb(gb and below) and 64mb(ics and above) is highly unlikely hence the changing the value to a larger quantity will make no difference.
PS personally even i dont like activo mainly cause i dont know how it works rather i use supercharger and its a much better option in my opinion.
Sorry, I didnt mean to offend you in any way and appreciate your effort... But telling me to stop posting just because I'm critical seems pretty backwards. If you only want people to say thanks and be greatful all the time, maybe you should start sharing horse pictures on a hello kitty forum...
I'm just sharing my experience and my problems might be related to my rom and it could very well work great on other phones or other roms... But I used a clean cm10.1, the CM10.1 rom almost everyone with a Gio uses, so I'd think it's still important to bring up my findings...
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No, I already told you that many of your ideas are correct but, your way of expressing was not good.
Ex- You said that "Dont waste time on using this guide".
Now, if you think that was correct then please do not post again. If you are providing information then you can but, if you are telling people not to use this then dont post.
In fit's thread, Dark Passenger also wanted to express his ideas and wanted to help me. And I was happy about that. Because the way he helped me was like he really wanted to help. But, you was not polite as him.
You can ask Dark Passenger, there is a lot of information in the thread provided by him and I used that. And he never complained like you.
@Dark Passenger, please explain him.
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No, I already told you that many of your ideas are correct but, your way of expressing was not good.
Ex- You said that "Dont waste time on using this guide".
Now, if you think that was correct then please do not post again. If you are providing information then you can but, if you are telling people not to use this then dont post.
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Yeah, I was frustrated and my first response was not really fair. I agree.
Noobwithdumbquestions said:
Yeah, I was frustrated and my first response was not really fair. I agree.
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When you use ics or jelly bean you need supercharger script and a patched services.jar (it's easy to do) because any other script don't works 100 % on it.
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Hey guys,
Seems there's a lot of ways you can improve the speed of Android in general. Some seem to be snakeoil... others, work quite well and there's proof to back it up.
I'm only interested in discussing the latter .
A lot of people have helped me gather a better understanding of Android (hyc, stinebd to name a few) in addition to a lot of Google searching. I am going to compile a list of what I have done, I would like to hear what you guys have done! Most app killer apps / app control will already be addressed, so those tools need not apply... I'm looking for real, permanent fixes here without adding more apps!
I am also trying to have topics that are easy working up to advanced. Obviously the more advanced topics are going to be harder to do. You've been warned.
So here's the disclaimer.
****DISCLAIMER****
Speed is as always relative. That basically means I don't want arguments about which build is faster. I want to argue about how to make every build faster .
Also, these tips should apply to any build, any device... they are pretty generic tips, but are obviously specific to Android, with some idiosyncrasies that apply to our port that wouldn't apply to native Android devices. Some is common sense, others are real ways to tear into the system. Hope you enjoy it!
Topic 1
Difficulty Easy - Apps/Widgets
I've noticed the number of widgets i have on my screens, or the number of apps that I have installed/are running in the background to greatly effect performance, in an obviously negative way.
Once I removed all the widgets (I only have the basic analog clock widget & the Google search widget on one desktop...) this seemed to improve general speed. One minor thing to check is if apps are set to auto/background sync. Only enable the ones you really want syncing, others just check manually.
On this same topic, replacing the launcher (the stock launcher in Android, Launcher2 is quite slow) can help immensely. I like ADW, but I've used LauncherPro in the past and it is good. Zeam also seems like a good launcher. I haven't used Go Launcher EX, I've heard good and bad things about it. Use what works best for you, try 'em all!
The last thing on this topic I would like to mention is animations. Settings -> Display -> Animation -> No animations can make the phone feel quite a bit snappier, obviously at the expense of the look/feel of the OS.
Topic 2
Difficulty Easy - Controlling app 'net Access
This leads me into the next topic, DroidWall. I've noticed that blocking apps from accessing the internet has been a very good thing - it's not so much a performance booster (although it probably does provide a little bump) it's mostly about battery life. Just be warned, if you block an app that is set to background sync, it will probably have very negative effects. Only disable an app's access to the internet with DroidWall after you've checked that app's background sync feature is disabled. I have a few apps allowed in DroidWall, and the rest are blocked. You can "whitelist" everything and check apps you want to block, or "blacklist" everything and check the apps you want to allow. It's a little annoying to remember to enable/disable DroidWall (I use the DroidWall widget to enable/disable it globally) but if you do, it is much better - you have complete control over how apps access the 'net on your device. It is available on the Market.
Topic 3
Difficulty Moderate - SD cache/readahead tweaking
The only reason I'm calling this one 'moderate' is the number of choices you have for settings for this... It's basically telling the SD card how much to hold on to or... read "ahead" if you will . This was turned way up in FRX07, (from 256kb to 2048kb or 2mb...) and I think this might be the source of a lot of the complaints of 'mini-resets' if you will where the boot animation is suddenly seen after a long system hang...
So some cards will work better with a larger setting - I've heard some with spankin new C6 cards that said 3072kb or 3mb was a good setting. Others have found a sweet spot at 256kb or 1024kb (1mb).
There are two ways of doing this - you can hack the init in the rootfs and adjust the setting manually, or be lazy like me and use SD Booster (from the Market). Adjusts the same settings, and they are applied immediately!
I would like to find a "sweet spot" - a good default if you will. Can folks test out 512kb and 1024kb, see if you have any more mini-resets within Android or any other slowness, etc... Obviously this isn't a cure-all for the slowness or the mini-resets, what we're looking to do is mitigate the effects. So let's focus on that, thanks!
Topic 4
Difficulty Moderate - Overclocking
Overclocking is obviously one relatively easy way to improve the speed of Android. In your startup.txt, add a line
Code:
acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=710400
for example to overclock to 710.4mhz. How did I find this value? I actually put in 714000, but if you look at dmesg near the beginning you'll see "ACPU running at ..." - that's what clock is the actual maximum. It goes in 19.2khz increments.
Feel free to experiment with how high your phone can go, just be warned that the higher you go the potential for failure goes up as well . Phone shouldn't blow up, but it might not work correctly or at all. Rebooting and scaling it back will fix it.
Here's the full *example* startup.txt:
Code:
set ramsize 0x10000000
set ramaddr 0x10000000
set mtype 2292
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 physkeyboard=rhod400 acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=710400"
boot
You can put the command anywhere in the cmdline section, just make sure it's between the quotes and at least one space between each command.
Topic 5
Difficulty Advanced - How Android Manages Memory/apps
Ok, I'm going to take two approaches to this. The first, is the full explanation on how Android manages memory.
Please feel free to read the post I originally read that inspired me to start looking at this stuff - How to configure Android's *internal* taskkiller. It was very helpful for me to grasp how Android manages applications. This is the reason why application killers are not a good thing...
If you want to do it manually, Starfox suggests:
Code:
echo "1536,3072,8192,10240,12288,20480" > /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree
To try to do these commands, adb is very useful. Once you get adb shell working, then you just need to "su" (provides 'super user' privileges (root)) and put in the echo command above ^^.
I had another user (thanks icevapor) suggest this script -
[Script] V6 SuperCharger! HTK & BulletProof Launchers! The ONLY Android MEMORY FIXER!
I tried it myself, and it works very well. This thread is a little overwhelming, but the jist of it is this:
Install Script Manager (on the Market)
Run the V6 SuperCharger script. I use "Aggressive 1 Settings" (#2) and then I use the OOM Grouping Fixes & "Hard to Kill" launcher (#17)
Point Script Manager to run /data/99SuperCharger.sh to run as root & on boot. This will ensure the tweaks are reapplied after a reboot.
Topic 6
Difficulty Advanced - Managing Apps that auto-start on boot
This is one of the most annoying things in Android. When you have no apps installed, it seems very fast. Then you install apps, and you never seem to get that original speed back... Now you can!
This is kind of difficult to do, I am still getting the hang of it... but here goes. All credit goes to hyc, his original post.
The basic idea here is you run a logcat (adb logcat is easiest here, or you can use GetLogs to pull logcat...) Look in this log for "for broadcast" and find apps that start on boot. For example,
Code:
Line 41: I/ActivityManager( 1394): Start proc nextapp.systempanel for broadcast nextapp.systempanel/.monitorservice.BootReceiver: pid=1752 uid=10060 gids={3003, 1015}
Notice there are two sides of the "for broadcast". The name of the package (nextapp.systempanel) and the name of the service, "nextapp.systempanel/.monitorservice.BootReceive". I made the mistake of disabling the app (the left side). Do not do this, you want to disable the right side!
So in the shell,
Code:
pm disable nextapp.systempanel/.monitorservice.BootReceive
This will be persistent across boots, it will go with your data.img.
Obviously this was just one example of an app to disable. So long as you disable the right side (after the 'for broadcast') you shouldn't disable anything that will cause a serious problem. The apps should still work, but for example if you disable Google Voice you won't get messages until you open the app. So think about that... You disable Titanium Backup schedules.BootReceiver, the schedules for Titanium Backup (if you have any) won't run. Stuff like that. Disable calendar, you won't get calendar events... Disable clock no alarms. Get it? Good. I have been rebooting several times, and I keep checking what is set to start on boot. I'm not quite happy with it yet, but there's some things I'm leery of disabling. Just be wary, if you do disable something and don't like it - just pm enable <whatever you disabled>.
Now experiment away! The one caveat is if you do break something with pm disable (and it's serious) you might get a failure to boot. It really depends on how bad you mess up. If you make a copy of your data.img before you start making these changes, you can revert to that data.img and start back there.
Alright guys. Going to use this thread as a way to brainstorm about ways to improve the speed. Read up what I've posted, let me know if I did anything wrong... Also let me know what you guys do to improve speed!
Don't care about what build you're running, this thread isn't about what build is fastest - this is a how do I make every build faster thread.
I also realize I posted this in the Rhodium section - I want to see if there's any BLAC-specific tweaks that others should be made aware of!
Thanks. Great posting. Will try some of the topics I never used (because I didn't know about them).
ThaiDai said:
Thanks. Great posting. Will try some of the topics I never used (because I didn't know about them).
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I'm sure there are more as well... These are just the ones that I found made the most difference on my device.
I'm also curious about the minfree setting. I've only tried a few settings, they seem good. I haven't done any drastic number changing, it seems like changing these values should be done with a lot of caution and testing. There are definitely some values that should not be touched and others that can take some more fudging with numbers .
Added Topic 3 and Topic 4 to startup.txt and rootfs.img.
Just booting. Let's see if this is stable.
Software options I do not test now because I only test the new versions now. So specific app optimization only necessary when ThaiDai Android Loader and installation procedure reaches v2
Ok, boot ok, started Android (NeoFROYO build(, will tell tomorrow if stable.
If so I will use this options as standard for Blacky and I will add software like Droid firewall.
Thanks and good night
Update - I redid topic 4, feel free to re-read it.
Thanks
Enviado desde mi FROYO BLUE CWM1.9 usando Tapatalk
Hi Arrrghhh!
Can a squashfsed and odexed apk boost speed inside Android OS?
john_matrix said:
Hi Arrrghhh!
Can a squashfsed and odexed apk boost speed inside Android OS?
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No clue. What does that have to do with the Speed Improvements thread?
I'm guessing you tried and it didn't work? What APK!?!
I guess I don't really follow your train of thought. Does sqshfs'ing and odexing an APK make it run faster...? I'm pretty new to Android in general. Never even used a native Android device .
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-odex-and-deodex-in-android-complete-guide/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709630
farukb said:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-odex-and-deodex-in-android-complete-guide/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709630
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I still don't get what that has to do with our builds. ODEX and DEODEX have nothing to do with our builds... That stuff only applies to native devices, or builds that are ported from native devices (I would think).
Perhaps I'm missing something here... please tell me if I am .
Maybe they mean something else like: oxidized or deoxidized (reduced) apps. With these modified apps you can speed up the transfer of electrons, resulting in more performance without overclocking your cpu. And more: it will not reduce your battery capacity measurable. I used it in some of the builds I tried. You will get a nice small benefit also: because of the electron transfers you will get a small induced massage in your fingers for free.
ThaiDai said:
Maybe they mean something else like: oxidized or deoxidized (reduced) apps. With these modified apps you can speed up the transfer of electrons, resulting in more performance without overclocking your cpu. And more: it will not reduce your battery capacity measurable. I used it in some of the builds I tried. You will get a nice small benefit also: because of the electron transfers you will get a small induced massage in your fingers for free.
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LOL!
Epic.
OK. I cant get V6 SuperCharger script to work! I downloaded the script and run it but I cant find /data/99SuperCharger.sh after I run it
x12CHRIS18x said:
OK. I cant get V6 SuperCharger script to work! I downloaded the script and run it but I cant find /data/99SuperCharger.sh after I run it
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Did you make the choices in the script, or did you just exit the script?
You have to make sure ScriptManager is running as root too. There's a setting for it. "Browse as root" - make sure that is enabled. You won't be able to see /data without browsing as root.
...You have a TouchHD? I always thought you had a RHOD, lol.
This article is about the Android Script.
For other uses, please search Placebo; Disambiguation
Op under construction,
Should become read-able soon.
Placebo 3.0 is here! Failed, 3.0.1 may work. lmao
View attachment Placebo3.0.1.zip
Placebo3.0.1-Dropbox
Placebo3.0.1-AmazonCloud
Now supports hotplug governor !
Now makes it's own tweak directory to cut down on overhead !
Now screenstate + CPU1_ON is working better than ever !
Now generates a list of kernel default settings for governors !
SHOULD now flash onto other phones without issue !
DOWNLOAD NOW AFTER READING MORE HERE
The setup I've been using lately uses two scripts; one script that has all of the tweaks and settings, and one small script for screenstate awareness.
Here are some details about installation and use.
1) Download the zip package you intend to install.
2) Boot into recovery with your preferred method. ( I personally just type "reboot recovery" into terminal. I hate holding the buttons...)
3) Navigate to the zip you downloaded and install it.
4) Assuming all went correctly, you will have the quickest flash you've seen, with the least "blahblahblah" possible.
This is normal.
TO VERIFY: Try switching gears. Open terminal emulator and type one of the following.
( you must first type "su" and hit enter )
ondemand
peqasus
conservative
interactive
smartass
lulzactive
If it installed correctly then this will effectively switch you to another governor with optimized settings.
Enjoy.
If this didn't switch you to a new governor, chances are there was a permission or mount failure on my part.
I will be posting additional tools to assist with this part, plus I'm getting a little better at preventing these issues.
To fix it yourself, try setting a governor after typing the following into terminal emulator. (these can be copy pasted if exact)
If it isn't working due to mount; the terminal emulator solution is
busybox mount -o remount,rw rootfs /
busybox mount -o remount,rw `busybox realpath /dev/block/platform/dw_mmc/by-name/FACTORYFS` /system
If if it was a permission related failure; the terminal emulator solution is
for i in ondemand conservative pegasus lulzactive interactive smartass;do
chmod 0755 /system/xbin/$i; done
If you have a problem that neither of these fix feel free to ask me or anyone else in this thread.
Latest scripts
Please read HERE before installing Beta3.1 (technically this NOT Placebo 3 )
PlaceboBeta3.1
Placebo(HEXEN)
(1-10-13 reposted with a couple minor issues fixed)
PegasusQ and dual cpu screenstate plus an SQL settings script
Here's a temp link to placebo2.0
http://db.tt/rsb7tAmY
Here's a sort of greatest hits type of link.
There isn't really any info on them ecxept buried in the thread but I tested to make sure they were all stable
http://db.tt/5KTUtews
A special thanks to:
Hakcenter:
This guy is extremely knowledgeable; willing to help improve others' understanding; has helped me on several occasions (although makes fun in the process ) despite my noobish questions, lack of attention span, and general stubbornness when I'm told I can't do something.... despite us meeting by me posting "Why is thread in the development section" in his apps thread LMAO (sorry, man...)..
For those of you who aren't familiar with Hakcenter, he has an application that applies tweak packages. I liked it when I gave it a lot. I changed some values... but that's not the point! TRY HIS APP. thanks...
Placebo Regulars; Dude, you guys... You guys are absolutely awesome. I honestly think that this is one of the most helpful (as in users helping other users) threads I've seen anywhere on XDA.
Zeppelinrox; His V6SuperCharger was my initial inspiration and his KickAssKernelizer was my initial template... way before Placebo was born.
Calkulin - Im sure I would know nothing if not for your easy to understand scripts having piqued my interest in the first place..
Thank you, sir.
(used nothing directly, but without his contributions....you get the picture..)
TDunham; Always friendly, always helpful, always has good and practical ideas.. never (publicly) judges me too harshly for my lack of ADHD medication...
Can't thank you enough for your kindness... but I can try.
Thank you, sir.
FreeCharlesManson; Your spit-balling and insight led me to a few realizations that altered the effectiveness of Placebo exponentially.
Thank you, sir.
Scarmon; also always helpful and friendly... and makes (at least one that I know of) badass roms that I would recommend to anybody (that I like..).
Thank you, sir.
BlackCanopy...
Two of the most willing-to-help people that I have the pleasure of knowing.. I can't thank you guys enough for keeping this place together.
MiguelHogue....
Team (all of them...) Seriously I still don't know why we aren't all on Teamusxdaguys.... Can't think of anybody in any crew that hasn't been helpful at one time or another.
A word for the wise.. Watch out for that Lickarock... sharp as a tack that one is.. as soon as he buckles down and puts to practice the knowledge slash resources that he already has..
I expect good things will come of it.
Problems?
I've got far more than 99 of em... IO aint one.
j/k
hit me up.... yue noe eye luuuhh yue.
Remember!
If you help one, you have helped us all.
+Good day, sirs+
+ENJOY Placebo+
Repos
..The Pharm..
Welcome. This is a repository with a few of the Placebo1 formats.
Be careful with them, I cannot guarantee them to be universal.
Obviously, of they say Univ then there have no reports of From specific issues. Similarly, if they say TW, don't bother trying on an AOSP build.
Here are some new items for your tool chests...
Format 12 & 7 and a persistent busybox
\\________//
Enjoy
Placebo-Black
Heres a little more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30348571
"This IS THE DROID you're looking for!!" Come to the black side...
Placebo Black was written on and for
BLACK ROM,
by Team Rejects!! AND Team Nocturnal!!
Works on every rom its been tested on, including JB builds.
PlaceboCmX-1
Placebo Pi. Nice and balanced build.
Nice and balanced. 8/09/12
Placeboπ
DietPill revision 1 (a big hit, simple, effective)
DietPillR1
DietWifiHERE
Placebo-FHV: 8/5 (balance)
http://db.tt/wFL0qtJy
So smooth.... that...
I should call it Santana or Thomas.. Eeer something
http://db.tt/XE2DWzst
Placebo set to Ondemand (performance)
PlaceboOnDmnd
Sugar Pill was an earlier one that was very well received. Stable, simple, gets work done, son!
Crazy Pill was around the same time as Sugar Pill. Can't remember much, except I think I was still adding transitions animations.
There's your warning.
View attachment dietpill-FHI.zip
View attachment SugarPill.zip
View attachment PlaceboFGXVII.zip
View attachment PlaceboFGXXII.zip
View attachment CrazyPill.zip
View attachment PlaceboFGXXVI.zip
View attachment PlaceboFGXX.zip
View attachment ServicesOptAOSKCMP9.zip
View attachment ServicesOptTouchWiz.zip
Check out my new JB compatible Odex Station
#
# RECOMMENDED: PHAKE_SETTINGS
#
dalvik.vm.heapstartsize=12m
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=96m
dalvik.vm.heapsize=192m
ril.hsxpa=2
ril.gprsclass=['dc 10 mul 4 sub 10';]
ril.hsdpa.category=['dc 8 mul 4 sub 8']
ril.hsupa.category=6\2
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=< >
debug.gr.swapinterval=0
RLIMIT_NICE 1
HOME_APP_ADJ -5
HOME_APP_MEM 5688
VISIBLE_APP_ADJ 1
VISIBLE_APP_MEM 11366
#
#
Thank you, you have clearly put allot of time into this... Im gonna check this out.
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lolwut
Thank you ! 1st page.
What other scripts have you tested with this master piece?...Is it known to bump heads with any other scripts?
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Placebo; Defined
A good reference for governors, definitions of their settings, extweaks, io schedulers, and a whole lot of other things.. can be found
Here, and thank OP of this thread if you like their info
Frequent Questions
My head hurts???
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So, wait,... what does it do?
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Here's a little info I prepared about the virtual memory aspect.. this is not complete.. and it's my half assed interpretation...
-------------------Virtual Memory------------------
dirty_background_ratio (threshold at which background data becomes 'dirtyable'
dirty_ratio (threshold at which data becomes 'dirtyable'
dirty_expire_centisecs (time, in hundredths of seconds, before dirty data expires
dirty_writeback_centisecs (time, in hundredths of seconds, before old data is allowed to be written by PDflush Daemons ( a value of ZERO disables flush, out of fear I haven't tried this.
drop_caches (self explained, but the values are | 1=PageCache; 2=InodeCache; 3=both
highmem_is_dirtyable (I don't fully understand this, but my take is it can prevent random/unnecessary I/O within known/mapped files
laptop_mode (determines the time, in seconds, between "disk" I/O and a flush of all dirty data
lowmem_reserve_ratio (ratio of total pages-to-free-pages for each memory zone
min_free_kbytes (this number is used to compute a pages_min value for each lowmem zone
How do I know which configuration is right for me???
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- Well, that's the real point... you actually have to get your hands dirty here. No way around it.
Is it safe to flash this on ONEROM that is identical to ANOTHEROM?
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Which one is the best one
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Well,,, let's start from when you were 3. Go over in detail every decision you've ever made so I can graph what you will like best.
Have no idea how to use this but clearly you put in a lot of effort and it shows (look at the Quadrant! ). Thank you for your contribution and I believe this should go in the Development Section aswell
Lol i have no idea what im doing.. I unzipped it and put it in system bin folder n tried to run it in term emu and got log error so created a log in data log and it did something and log is full of garble but i know im doing it wrong. It was worth a try wish i had some instruction so i could get those scores! Mines under 3000
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Wish I could figure out how to use this lol, thanks for you hard work! :good:
Placebo:
It's hard to summarize Placebo quickly and in an easy to understand way.
Placebo is a script, or set of scripts, that changes Linux kernel settings in your Android.
It is hard to stay caught up, because the number of potential combinations is almost without limit,
and placebo is constantly changing as I learn/dabble with new/existing modifications.
Some will be for better battery (though all will probably help a little), some will be to make your phone
scream louder than Jenna J.
I would be more than willing to provide more technical information to anybody that requests it.
It's almost pointless to post specific values that are set, as no two Placebos make every adjustment the same,
but there are some constants, for example:
Every Placebo implements a sysctl.conf (or equiv.) which will adjust (at least some of) the following settings:
(The following is a brief breakdown of tunable virtual memory settings, as I understand them.
I do not claim to know a lot about Linux. If you notice something that I have misunderstood,
Please correct me. Flaming will not be responded to. Helpful knowledge will be appreciated.)
-------------------Virtual Memory------------------
dirty_background_ratio (threshold at which background data becomes 'dirtyable'
dirty_ratio (threshold at which data becomes 'dirtyable'
dirty_expire_centisecs (time, in hundredths of seconds, before dirty data expires
dirty_writeback_centisecs (time, in hundredths of seconds, before old data is allowed to be written by PDflush Daemons ( a value of ZERO disables flush, out of fear I haven't tried this.
drop_caches (self explained, but the values are | 1=PageCache; 2=InodeCache; 3=both
highmem_is_dirtyable (I don't fully understand this, but my take is it can prevent random/unnecessary I/O within known/mapped files
laptop_mode (determines the time, in seconds, between "disk" I/O and a flush of all dirty data
lowmem_reserve_ratio (ratio of total pages-to-free-pages for each memory zone
min_free_kbytes (this number is used to compute a pages_min value for each lowmem zone
PhAkEer said:
Honestly I dont see why you would have a problem trying a term.
Is your phone rooted? What commands did you attempt and what was the log output that it returned?
Curiosity; what Rom/kernel are you are using?
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Not sure what to type lol and what to show you in the log but i am rooted on the universe rom with agats kernel.. I just typed in placebo. It has a ton of info in the log.. Also the universe does have kobridge tweaks which i see it in the logs lol
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Re: [TWEAK] placebo [$ETTINGS]
Just pm a copy of the log if yoy can... Im at work but will take a look.
Alright, I had hoped to wait until page 3..page 3 is always a safe place... Oh well....
This is a config Im currently working on. If it plays out well, its a big boost in a couple departments.
I cant very well get this thing universal with only one test phone...
Placebo: SugarPill
http://db.tt/in7LAmRN
This one almost effects the battery as much as a new ROM. It will probably take a short cycle before it balances itself out.
These settings are a little aggresive, but Im still taking it easy because I dont want anyone to break anything...
Come on guys, I thought we could all evolve this together =)
FREEBIE:
Ever gone into the supplicant scan's config file? Its pretty useful if you were to... say... Idk... Change the interface to uwbr0.
Your welcome.
(pictures unrelated to above tip)
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Much better on the OP. Are you able to provide the download link to the file using the regular xda method (I added one below)? It is easier to see the link and it provides 2 very useful things: it has a built-in download counter (views) and you can remove or update it to new file(s) whenever you like.
Edit: Please put a brief note on the OP with what this script is known to work with (ROMs). And also do yourself a favor and put a disclaimer that you do not plan to support all the roms that are out at this time, try at your own risk stuff. That will save you a lot of headache there are so many different roms out there.
Is there a reason you're leaving /system writable?
Also, this seems to effectively replace kobridge's 41tweaks script, but doesn't address his ondemand scheduler, or build.prop or wifi sleep tweaks. Is that accurate? Can you see any potential conflicts if I kept those?
b1g.p0ppa said:
Is there a reason you're leaving /system writable?
Also, this seems to effectively replace kobridge's 41tweaks script, but doesn't address his ondemand scheduler, or build.prop or wifi sleep tweaks. Is that accurate? Can you see any potential conflicts if I kept those?
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Actually it was by design to leave those alone, and since I have no scheduler in Placebo, no conflict there. (I smaaawt sah ntine) .
I didnt ask kobridge for permission to insert his work into placebo, so WifiSleepWait is left alone.
If you look for the "*tweaks" youll see what it is.. placebo will interact only with things having "tweak" in their name in its current config.
And about system, thats just a preference of mine. Feel free to add anything (including unmount) to it.
@ Tdun,
Forgive my XDA noobiness, but no actually, I dont know how to make that little tab. Lol
Thanks for all of your constructive criticism/advice. Its much appreciated.
(lol typos when noob=nofun)
Anyway this will work on GB?
Im on Calk's el29 and would love to see if this works on it.
PhAkEer said:
Actually it was by design to leave those alone, and since I have no scheduler in Placebo, no conflict there. (I smaaawt sah ntine) .
I didnt ask kobridge for permission to insert his work into placebo, so WifiSleepWait is left alone.
If you look for the "*tweaks" youll see what it is.. placebo will interact only with things having "tweak" in their name in its current config.
And about system, thats just a preference of mine. Feel free to add anything (including unmount) to it.
@ Tdun,
Forgive my XDA noobiness, but no actually, I dont know how to make that little tab. Lol
Thanks for all of your constructive criticism/advice. Its much appreciated.
(lol typos when noob=nofun)
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Awesome! So awesome it inspired me to edit my sig. Here's how I'm incorporating your script into my rig:
Code:
echo "SugarPilling"
test -f /system/etc/init.d/41tweaks_kobridge && rm /system/etc/init.d/41tweaks_kobridge
cp /sdcard/gscript/SugarPill /system/etc/init.d/41SugarPill && chmod 755 /system/etc/init.d/41SugarPill
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apatcas said:
Anyway this will work on GB?
Im on Calk's el29 and would love to see if this works on it.
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Sure it would. If nothing else, run it interactively and check the log. (I'm pretty sure) the tweaks get reset back to default when you reboot.
lol Im scatter-brained and trying to get out the door for work,
As for GB, I dont see why there would be any issues. I havent tried it, but these are the same things that were in scripts long before I was playing witb them so Id guess that its safe.
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Is it possible to run this script from galaxy w? I have some ram issues and sometimes my phone lags.
In running services these applications are always open:
Facebook
hotmail
go launcher ex + go launcher notification + go locker
maps
swiftkey
I have read somewhere that this script is not very good with multitasking but it makes the phone run faster and smoother. These applications are considered in multitasking? Or in this case multitasking means for example to have messaging, browser etc running at the same time?
Thanks
Yes u can install v6 script in GW
Ur phone will be faster
But u should search the forum before posting
From My GWonder
Okay thank you!
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I've had some probless with supercharger, when closing apps with stock task manager, launcher would always close, and have to reload all the apps and widgets (stock touchwiz launcher). Can this be solved?
Sent from my bananaphone.
piefert said:
I've had some probless with supercharger, when closing apps with stock task manager, launcher would always close, and have to reload all the apps and widgets (stock touchwiz launcher). Can this be solved?
Sent from my bananaphone.
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That is called "Launcher Redraw", technically, when you clear memory or run a resource-demanding apps, Launcher will be killed as well to give more memory.
To prevent this, set the "lock home in memory" option in V6Supercharger. Note that doing this will make your home launcher unkillable and thus your free memory will be lower.
My advice: If you do want to lock launcher in memory, use a low memory usage launcher, such as zeam, Go Launcher uses too much memory.
Hope this helps.
Reidzeibel
Sent from my Modded Stock DXLA2 (Didn't have the mood to update)
I installed Supercharger on my phone and now it works better altough some games runs slower and freezes on my device,
reidzeibel said:
That is called "Launcher Redraw", technically, when you clear memory or run a resource-demanding apps, Launcher will be killed as well to give more memory.
To prevent this, set the "lock home in memory" option in V6Supercharger. Note that doing this will make your home launcher unkillable and thus your free memory will be lower.
My advice: If you do want to lock launcher in memory, use a low memory usage launcher, such as zeam, Go Launcher uses too much memory.
Hope this helps.
Reidzeibel
Sent from my Modded Stock DXLA2 (Didn't have the mood to update)
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Ehhh??
Lock home in memory is not in V6....actually, if it is enabled in Launcher or ROM, Zepp recommends not to do this!!!
From my memory, you got "Hard to Kill", "Die Hard" or "Bulletproof" depending on OOM and Minfree values you choose in the script....
Obviously, Bulletproof means Launcher will never be killed!!
But, the script expects that "lock home in memory" to be disabled, AFAIK.....if I am wrong, I apologise in advance!!!
BTW, if your not on ICS, can I recommend that old favorite Launcher Pro.....it may lack support from the Dev, but it runs silky smooth on GB and is lightweight with many options!!!
Sent either from my Sammy GT-i8150 or my Momo11 Bird Tablet!!
irishpancake said:
Ehhh??
Lock home in memory is not in V6....actually, if it is enabled in Launcher or ROM, Zepp recommends not to do this!!!
From my memory, you got "Hard to Kill", "Die Hard" or "Bulletproof" depending on OOM and Minfree values you choose in the script....
Obviously, Bulletproof means Launcher will never be killed!!
But, the script expects that "lock home in memory" to be disabled, AFAIK.....if I am wrong, I apologise in advance!!!
BTW, if your not on ICS, can I recommend that old favorite Launcher Pro.....it may lack support from the Dev, but it runs silky smooth on GB and is lightweight with many options!!!
Sent either from my Sammy GT-i8150 or my Momo11 Bird Tablet!!
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Yes, Zepp advise not to enable the option IF you don't know what it is used for
Yes, If the launcher or ROM supports "Keep home in memory", do this instead of using supercharger script, I forgot to write this, thanks Irish for adding that part
Sent from my Modded Stock DXLA2 (Didn't have the mood to update)
reidzeibel said:
Yes, Zepp advise not to enable the option IF you don't know what it is used for
Yes, If the launcher or ROM supports "Keep home in memory", do this instead of using supercharger script, I forgot to write this, thanks Irish for adding that part
Sent from my Modded Stock DXLA2 (Didn't have the mood to update)
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Well, I don't know friend.....
every tutorial I have seen or read including Zepp on the V6 Thread, says you should disable this setting if you have it, as it interferes with how V6 manages memory.....
and if you leave it enabled, it may cause lag on your device, the advice is to disable it, and Compcache [zRam]....If you don't have the option, it don't matter, so it's mainly aimed at CM7/9 ROMs.......
to achieve same result, V6 uses the Bullet Proof Launcher, but I think Zepp now advises to use the HTK option, as BPL breaks some other stuff in ICS.....
just to emphasise, it is important to read the outputs given in the script......
Zepp can be a hard taskmaster if you ask something covered there or in help files, etc.
Small example of his comments here:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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My original writing here was:
Forget the Supercharger. Instead take cear of the number of your apps and their intent-behavior.
Scripts like Supercharger are pure mess when targeting a solid daily driver system.
The number of people using this script is only high because there are a lot of folks with little knowledge about the underlying techniques.
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These words might have been choosen to sharp for this given thread. See the further discussion for more details.
The essential core of my statement is to use the Supercharger with care, as you might run in more problems than before, if you do not know about your usage scenario and the side effects that come with every change in those parameters.
Tweaking settings like those of Supercharger is always a trade-off - but you can only adjust them if you know which flavor of system-behavior you prefer. Most users don't have a clue, so they have to believe magicians - Unlucky for them, because the provided magic potions are not more than nicely advertised placebo.
But at least, they got some great funky banners, so you can easily spread your unawareness in the whole xda forums via your signature through adding them.
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You can optimize memory management for either single task scenarios or multitasking scenarios. Logically, this is a classic trade-off.
To give an simplified example:
- Higher low-memory-killer-borders increase the chances of getting a smoother experience when running only one specific app most the time.
- On the other side, multitasking user experience will suffer, as activities get flushed out of memory earlier, when free memory decreases.
Other example: The VFS Cache Pressure parameter, which controls the weight between file system cache and application memory space.
- Lower values should give you better experience, wenn handling similar task scenarios most of the time, since their access patterns improve through caching
- On the other side, there is less memory space for applications, so this setup will give you slower task switching, as it is more likely now, that your desired new foreground application is not present in memory anymore.
XR-7 said:
Forget the Supercharger. Instead take cear of the number of your apps and their intent-behavior.
Scripts like Supercharger are pure mess when targeting a solid daily driver system.
The number of people using this script is only high because there are a lot of folks with little knowledge about the underlying techniques.
Tweaking settings like those of Supercharger is always a trade-off - but you can only adjust them if you know which flavor of system-behavior you prefer. Most users don't have a clue, so they have to believe magicians - Unlucky for them, because the provided magic potions are not more than nicely advertised placebo.
But at least, they got some great funky banners, so you can easily spread your unawareness in the whole xda forums via your signature through adding them.
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You can optimize memory management for either single task scenarios or multitasking scenarios. Logically, this is a classic trade-off.
To give an simplified example:
- Higher low-memory-killer-borders increase the chances of getting a smoother experience when running only one specific app most the time.
- On the other side, multitasking user experience will suffer, as activities get flushed out of memory earlier, when free memory decreases.
Other example: The VFS Cache Pressure parameter, which controls the weight between file system cache and application memory space.
- Lower values should give you better experience, wenn handling similar task scenarios most of the time, since their access patterns improve through caching
- On the other side, there is less memory space for applications, so this setup will give you slower task switching, as it is more likely now, that your desired new foreground application is not present in memory anymore.
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Sounds like you've been reading my thread.
Thanks for confirming everything I've said LOL
Fact is, nobody can preach about android memory management and be right without confirming my findings.
So you're right.
And you confirm my findings.
Thanks and you're welcome.
PS. People know they hate launcher redraws and know they like it fixed.
But then again, you haven't read the thread or tried supercharger otherwise you'd know that it has different flavours for multitasking, aggressiveness and balanced.
And it's popular because it's for those that do know, and those that don't - not to mention that it works and does what it says.
If anybody thinks it's a placebo, it's in their head.
And you're wrong when you say "scripts like SuperCharger" because there is no such thing as a script like SuperCharger... silly.
edit: oh about VFS cache pressure, you can check that and all the other placebos in the Kick Ass Kernelizer script.
You fail to mention the importance of min_free_kbytes and dirty ratios and lease-break-time in your attempt to sound knowledgeable.
I guess you were too busy enjoying hearing yourself talk.
Man...
I woz goin to write that....but you just did it for me....
from the horses mouth, so to say!!!
Thanx....
hope you didn't mind the pic.....captures the essence of Zepp
EDIT....of course in XR's OP the EDIT bit was missing, so of course be had a quick look at the V6 thread....went Ohh Ohhhh!!!!
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I withdraw offending remarks about XR.....
as I have no knowledge as to his level of knowledge....
and in all humility I know phuck all myself....
OK??
Peace
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irishpancake said:
Duplicate post!!! Sorry
Sent either from my Sammy GT-i8150 or my Momo11 Bird Tablet!!
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Man...
EDIT....of course in XR's OP the EDIT bit was missing, so of course be had a quick look at the V6 thread....went Ohh Ohhhh!!!!
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Sounds logic. I see that a am completely wrong at the V6-thread, so i go back, place a big EDIT-Label under my text, and add more text, so that every one can cen see it? Not.
Seriously, the examples i gave are there to line up the claim i did in the first part: V6 SuperCharger is no the glory fire-and-forget solution, most of those performance-increases come with some kind of accordant disadvantage. This should be mentioned.
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Man...
but he is so "knowledgeable" or some kinda know-it-all know-nuttin
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For some kind of stuff, one does not need >500 posts, but a solid technical comprehension, common sense and some research on the web.
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@zeppelinrox
What i wanted to express is: Those settings are trade-offs concerning the user experience. This stands in contrast to your explanations, which claim to bring both speed and multitasking to every phone. Forcing the home launcher to stay in memory is a good idea, but it was a one-liner until ICS came, so this can't be the reason for running hundreds LOCs at system startup.
The majority of users has a bunch of other problems, with their device configuration messed up, too much resource-intensive apps installed or a bad-performing ROM installed at some time.
And then there comes this shiny tool, it sounds like the good old american way of life (and is named like it): giving resources here, spending some more memory here - there's no limit, it makes your device blazing fast, it gives you all the things you dreamed of, on your old sluggish device.
Naturally, thats not the case: Yes, there might be useful scenarios, as it allows switching beetween LMK-profiles etc. But lets be honest: Normal users have no clue what they are doing there, playing around and getting more problems than before.
Actually, i like your idea of making those parameters accessible with more ease. As a advanced user, you can archive performance gains, because you know what to set for your specific usage scenario.
Its simply not the fire-and-forget-speedup for android, but people tend to believe this.
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I added a more diplomatic statement to my original post. Although my technical base argumenttion is the same as before, i guess its good for the discussion if there are less misleading emitotional expressions.
Just read post 3 in my thread.
It was never a one-liner. (well bulletproof launcher used to be at first)
Lock Home in Memory was a one-liner and it wasn't good enough.
All 3 launcher strengths are stronger than "lock home in memory" and there are 3 strengths precisely because there are trade offs...
Reading the script output would explain it anyway but suffice to say, you have said nothing that contradicts anything that I've said.
And very few users have problems with it and has a very good reputation.
Otherwise, this wouldn't happen:
http://goo.gl/qM6yR+
http://goo.gl/1JPl8+
Of course, that is only counting clicks on the goo.gl links... not all clicks.
But you get the idea: the sky's the limit.
And yep... it's like getting a brand new phone.
I've listened to you talk in circles so here's some advice: know what you're talking about before talking about it.
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Sounds logic. I see that a am completely wrong at the V6-thread, so i go back, place a big EDIT-Label under my text, and add more text, so that every one can cen see it? Not.
Seriously, the examples i gave are there to line up the claim i did in the first part: V6 SuperCharger is no the glory fire-and-forget solution, most of those performance-increases come with some kind of accordant disadvantage. This should be mentioned.
For some kind of stuff, one does not need >500 posts, but a solid technical comprehension, common sense and some research on the web.
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@zeppelinrox
What i wanted to express is: Those settings are trade-offs concerning the user experience. This stands in contrast to your explanations, which claim to bring both speed and multitasking to every phone. Forcing the home launcher to stay in memory is a good idea, but it was a one-liner until ICS came, so this can't be the reason for running hundreds LOCs at system startup.
The majority of users has a bunch of other problems, with their device configuration messed up, too much resource-intensive apps installed or a bad-performing ROM installed at some time.
And then there comes this shiny tool, it sounds like the good old american way of life (and is named like it): giving resources here, spending some more memory here - there's no limit, it makes your device blazing fast, it gives you all the things you dreamed of, on your old sluggish device.
Naturally, thats not the case: Yes, there might be useful scenarios, as it allows switching beetween LMK-profiles etc. But lets be honest: Normal users have no clue what they are doing there, playing around and getting more problems than before.
Actually, i like your idea of making those parameters accessible with more ease. As a advanced user, you can archive performance gains, because you know what to set for your specific usage scenario.
Its simply not the fire-and-forget-speedup for android, but people tend to believe this.
// Update:
I added a more diplomatic statement to my original post. Although my technical base argumenttion is the same as before, i guess its good for the discussion if there are less misleading emitotional expressions.
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OK man XR......I have removed my offensive comment about you, mainly becoz I don't know you and have no basis for the comment I made, and also becoz I think I cannot stand over it, so accept my apology please....
its not my usual form at all!!
You can check my posts!!
But, you were being provocative IMHO, and that is usually a good basis for discussion
OK!!
Sent either from my Sammy GT-i8150 or my Momo11 Bird Tablet!!
irishpancake said:
I have removed my offensive comment about you, mainly becoz I don't know you and have no basis for the comment I made, and also becoz I think I cannot stand over it, so accept my apology please....
its not my usual form at all!!
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That's okay. As i mentioned above, i had also choosen sharp words, guess there might have been some more suitable writing style.
Nevertheless, i also guess that both sides - positive and negative - of the supercharger script should be discussed, as it is definitely note the magic silver bullet as it is sometimes perceived.
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But you get the idea: the sky's the limit.
And yep... it's like getting a brand new phone.
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Yes, it's remarkable. Not only one's device becomes at least a Galaxy Nexus, but it also increases display size, brigths up your teeth and pleasures your girlfriend.
You should get this for your girlfriend: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEsImF0dGljbGFiLkRyb2lkVmlicmF0b3IiXQ..
But if her device is SuperCharged, you're out of a job but mostly because you bore everybody to death.
i try v6 for a day, at night i realized that sms that i send in a day just keeping sending without being sent, i've tried to unsupercharged and reboot phone, but sms still sending, until i restore system to earlier setting than restart the phone, and check for the messages are sent
what is wrong with it?
what version of v6 that support stock rom?
is v6 increase free ram or is it does anything else? because i see no different on free ram that showed in ram booster
one more thing, when i run the script, i see text "it will not run on this rom, but you still can cook bla bla bla" is it normal?
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Welcome to Lightning ROM
MAJOR UPDATE, REV3, CHANG LOG IN SECOND POST**********
The goal when creating this today has been simple. Squeezing the most performance out of the T-Mobile Galaxy S III as I possibly could, without destroying your battery. This ROM was build with two things in mind - optimization and speed. Nuff said. It is based off the official Jelly Bean leak as of late last night and wild child's deodexed version he was kind enough to throw down. It will probably impregnate you, with twins, then not pay you child support. If you are ready to propel your device to levels above 9 thousand, you should probably keep reading. You have been warned. IT IS FAST! ..... yet... friendly...
Like myself, in the spirit of android, I am sure you all love customization. I am doing something a little different with this. Rather than add all the toggles, mods, themes, etc, I focused today on the performance aspect and will leave the theming up to you, and after you get it set up the way you want (as there will soon be and already is tons of pretty extras for this build) revert to post 2 of this thread for a nice little guide to odex this bad boy straight from Android UI via terminal emulator. I'll take care of the tweaking, you theme it the way you want, then wrap it up with some memory optimization of your own, or don't. Sound good? Thought so
Getting right down to it - a quick list of things modified here, and I know I am missing some things:
-Init.d support
-Busybox
-Deodexed (until you odex - see post 2)
-Rooted - duh
-CIQ removed***
-Debloated: removed a lot of stuff, but it is all avail' in the market, youtube, etc, you would have had to update it anyways -__-
-File system and SD read optimized for speed
-added freeza's custom CPU script to init.d ***see changelog in post 2
-Build.prop has been modified.
*added the 0 ring delay script
*wifi scan adjusted to 600
*media streaming optimized
*media recording optimized (video and image)
*data speeds optimized
-Database df on each boot / sql support - totally kanged this from somewhere else it was kanged... all credits due
-Memory optimizations
-Default IO scheduler optimized for flash-type disks (android devices)
-Carefully modified CPU parameters with performance in mind. Tweaked values to optimize IO throughput during heavy workload and multi-tasking, yet on the other end, CPU cycles are greatly reduced when system is not under heavy load. You will see this in performance :highfive:
INSTALLATION - follow this to the T, or I will ignore you. And keep in mind you might still have issues. Not every device is the same.
1. download ROM, put it on your external SD card, and verify it is good with an MD5 check
2. once all is well, boot to recovery
3. do a factory reset/data wipe (I have always been in the habit of being thorough and formatting anything 3 times)
4. format/wipe system (3 times recommended)
5. flash ROM
6. reboot (it will take a couple minutes)
7. once the device boots, let it stand alone for about a minute or so (i typically wait until it shuts off the display on its own) and ENJOY
NOTE: DO NOT TRY TO SIGN IN TO DROP BOX. I REMOVED IT. DL FROM MARKET!!
Also, some other things removed: browser, YouTube, calculator, some other stuff. I didn't remove anything that was not available in the play store. Wanted to keep it light weight. Do not try to sign in to anything other than your google account when you boot. Again, enjoy.
thanks to wild child, freeza, virus, steelH, dj, luke, ktoonz, and many others. mad respect to you all. i have implemented things that are either your direct work or things i have learned from you. so here is my humble shout out. if there is something i left out, somebody i didn't mention, please forgive me and post in this thread and call me out, i will happily update the OP with thanks. respect to you all
REV_3 - ready, set.. ok click now!
With morfic's kernel..... clocked at 1.83
ok... so if you are like me, and you REALLY wanna get intense with this, and just make it as bad A as you possibly can, keep reading....
This will essentially odex all files in your /system/framework and it will do it straight from the Android UI via my personal favorite app ... this is good because it frees up mem, and reduces DVM size. OPTIMALLL
1. download the odex.zip here --> PURPLE
2. extract all files with a file explorer, i prefer root explorer or fx file explorer
3. place the extracted folder and all of it's contents in /data/local/tmp ... so you should have /data/local/tmp/odex/+(misc files in new odex directory)
4. give the new directory and ALL contents FULL permissions. full read, write, and execute perms. your file explorer, if it has taken you this far, should be able to accomplish this
5. download this app TERMINAL EMULATOR dont worry it is free. open the app
Type the following commands - each new line should be executed with the enter key:
su (hit enter, it will ask for root)
/data/local/tmp/odex/odex (hit enter, you will see
you will see a bunch of outputs. there will be a message when it is done (honestly, like 10 seconds if that) saying something like "enjoy your hybrid ROM"
type "reboot recovery" (without the quotes)
device will boot into recovery immediately after you hit enter...
wipe cache and dalvik cache once more each, and reboot your device.
viola <--- this was spelled wrong. but i am going to leave it. because i can. rofl
THANKS*** freeza for sending me the the odex script, and you're welcome, for the bootclasspath for the script.. lulz. and thanks freeza for convincing me to download titanium backup again... and you're welcome for giving you the peace of mind that you can odex framework from android. el o el
****change log*****
rev3-December 1st, 2012 -uploading
-added morfic's alpha 23 kernel. OC'able to 1.83, no UV, L2 cache tables optimized, CPU hot plugged (for now, panel of=cpu1 off), pretty much an overhaul here. performance is ridiculous.
-removed CPU tweak by freeza (i still love you tho)
-optimized IO, AGAIN. adjusted ondemand parameters for a little bit better performance
-removed unneeded scripts from init.qcom.post_boot.sh file - positive effect on IO
-cleaned up build prop, added scripts for TCP windows, added network hack by... somebody... can't remember. File is in /etc/init.d/ "internet"
-optimized BT audio streaming
-added properties for optimal accessibility of T-Mos spectrum/towers
-disabled unneeded logging - save CPU cycles and power
-debloated some more. lightweight. DO NOT... try to sign in to dropbox upon first boot (if it even gives you the option) download the latest version of the app on the play store.
rev2-NOVEMBER 19, 2012
-removed some UI audio sounds (charger connection [for those that listen to music], lowbattery sound, volume toggle sounds, other annoying useless sounds such as boot up and power off)
implemented freeza's CPU control script for some amazing performance and battery life. thanks bud, as always, great work. i have been running this since he was finished with it, and it is absolutely amazing. your device with tons of unique and user friendly, editable scripts.
-freeza's CPU script adjusts CPU parameters for both cores based upon whether your device is charging, and how much battery you have left. it is a performance and battery friendly script that is power efficient and editable depending on what YOU want your device to do.
beta1-
initial release
all the things...
In rev 2, with freeza's CPU mod, you can navigate to init.d and you will see a "70cputweak" file. if you open that up, you can adjust CPU values and parameters of governors to your liking. for now, i left them as is - the way they were when freeza gave them to me. edit them with a file explorer and reboot and you are now adjusting your OWN values based on the performance and battery YOU desire. follow instruction in OP to flash
Thanks will try this later today
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Does teathering work on this?
ScottBroker said:
Does teathering work on this?
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wireless/native? no. but my easy tether app works perfectly. i'll implement it, if i have time, in beta2... i haven't slept in two days lol
OP updated
Will the odex.me app work with this rom? I'm not lazy, just curious if there's an easier way to odex..tia
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Yeah does the odex me app work the same way than doing all that other stuff?
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which tether app you using ?
Thanks
Odex me app will not work
great Rom thanks
Is this still running Touchwiz? How much RAM available? Other then your optimizations for speed what has been added or removed? Are animations gone due to the optimizations?
EGBTMagus said:
Is this still running Touchwiz? How much RAM available? Other then your optimizations for speed what has been added or removed? Are animations gone due to the optimizations?
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All I have done is tweak properties listed. Didn't mess with animations, or anything. You guys can do all that with a theme, kitchen, etc... I would recommend wild child's work. It's great stuff. Like I said the reason for this is because after you get it the way you want, you can go in and odex it and finalize your OWN build the way you want it to look. I'm not too big on aesthetics. But I can make your device run better
And to answer your question, yes, it is still running touchwiz launcher by default. Again I would recommend apex or nova. touchwiz is awful IMO. nothing unique about it.
Rom looks great will be testing it tonight!
Can anyone confirm wildchilds kitchen is working?
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Liking the rom so far, only issue I have come across is that I can't get App2ExtSD2 working.
Can we use your Odex wizardry in any deodexed TW Rom?
SiNJiN76 said:
Can we use your Odex wizardry in any deodexed TW Rom?
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yeah
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994048
Thanks...didn't know he created a separate thread.
Anyway, the first thing I noticed was that when I try to sign into Drop Box from the initial boot sequence, it FCs... I also got nowhere near the Quad score the OP got. Mine was in the 3Ks. Just my experience.
CIQ?
SiNJiN76 said:
Thanks...didn't know he created a separate thread.
Anyway, the first thing I noticed was that when I try to sign into Drop Box from the initial boot sequence, it FCs... I also got nowhere near the Quad score the OP got. Mine was in the 3Ks. Just my experience.
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I got over 5K in Quadrant, but I also came from a 100% stock phone (reset it to make sure there were no issues). DropBox fails intially because he removed dropbox from the rom.
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I can't seem to find the stock web browser... has it been removed?
Ok i really hate to say it and i know we all experienced this one time or another but, the HTC one v lags A LOT. It has its ups and sometimes is fast, but overall it's starting to really affect the whole experience. I've tried a lot of roms before and the problem is always there, even if i o/c or use scripts and stuff. But im not here to complain, i just want to know how you guys deal with lag, if any.
Dbzavatar said:
Ok i really hate to say it and i know we all experienced this one time or another but, the HTC one v lags A LOT. It has its ups and sometimes is fast, but overall it's starting to really affect the whole experience. I've tried a lot of roms before and the problem is always there, even if i o/c or use scripts and stuff. But im not here to complain, i just want to know how you guys deal with lag, if any.
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Tbh I don't have any lags man. Maybe you just use/install too many apps? I use Greenify app to freeze unused apps and generally that's it. What kind of lags do you experience?
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Tbh I don't have any lags man. Maybe you just use/install too many apps? I use Greenify app to freeze unused apps and generally that's it. What kind of lags do you experience?
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Just general lag every now and then. I also use greenify. But i think its because of all my apps that i have. On my old optimus v i had hundreds of apps and now i have to make sure to keep them low on the one v. Honestly the lag isn't all that bad, im really just curious as to how other people config there phones and what stuff they use.
Dbzavatar said:
Just general lag every now and then. I also use greenify. But i think its because of all my apps that i have. On my old optimus v i had hundreds of apps and now i have to make sure to keep them low on the one v. Honestly the lag isn't all that bad, im really just curious as to how other people config there phones and what stuff they use.
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You will need greenify paid ver(root) to freeze more apps, free ver doesn't freeze all.
Stock rom is a no go, you expected to be lag a lot. Custom rom is much smoother.
TheEndHK said:
You will need greenify paid ver(root) to freeze more apps, free ver doesn't freeze all.
Stock rom is a no go, you expected to be lag a lot. Custom rom is much smoother.
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I disabled greenify and it is still working smoothly. However I don't have loads of apps installed but still, ONE V releases free RAM memory when it's needed, keeping most of tasks running. So for example when you need that extra memory for some action, it will free it by for example closing an app when it decides to do so.
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I disabled greenify and it is still working smoothly. However I don't have loads of apps installed but still, ONE V releases free RAM memory when it's needed, keeping most of tasks running. So for example when you need that extra memory for some action, it will free it by for example closing an app when it decides to do so.
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Greenify free ver is just a kid. It only works for user apps, no system apps. The goal of greenify isn't memory managment, you are talking about somethings else like SuperCharged V6 script(I'm using it too).
One of the main problem on android is there are lots of app like to start itself even you aren't needed or do not run/call them out, they just come out random and waste your cpu/ram/battery a lot, install SystemPanel Lite on Google Play and check it period by yourself. Greenify is to stop these kinds of action completely and paid ver does 90% of its job.
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Dbzavatar said:
Ok i really hate to say it and i know we all experienced this one time or another but, the HTC one v lags A LOT. It has its ups and sometimes is fast, but overall it's starting to really affect the whole experience. I've tried a lot of roms before and the problem is always there, even if i o/c or use scripts and stuff. But im not here to complain, i just want to know how you guys deal with lag, if any.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338146
For the performance and battery friendly, I highly suggest you to try out this new rom Sense 4 Canadian KOODO(with SuperCharge V6), it got both advantages, really smoother than many other custom roms.
However, greenify donate ver is still a must on all roms. I also recommend you to install CrossBreeder 5.21 ver(only old ver is stable) on xda and remember to change the wake to 16 from 256 default, it is a script to fix android UI lag. Since 512MB ram isn't enough, you could give SuperCharge V6 memory management script a try as well.
I have used all stuffs above personally and my One V now is much more useable. Don't overclock much, some phones or kernel don't do good in overclocking.
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Greenify free ver is just a kid. It only works for user apps, no system apps. The goal of greenify isn't memory managment, you are talking about somethings else like SuperCharged V6 script(I'm using it too).
One of the main problem on android is there are lots of app like to start itself even you aren't needed or do not run/call them out, they just come out random and waste your cpu/ram/battery a lot, install SystemPanel Lite on Google Play and check it period by yourself. Greenify is to stop these kinds of action completely and paid ver does 90% of its job.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338146
For the performance and battery friendly, I highly suggest you to try out this new rom Sense 4 Canadian KOODO(with SuperCharge V6), it got both advantages, really smoother than many other custom roms.
However, greenify donate ver is still a must on all roms. I also recommend you to install CrossBreeder 5.21 ver(only old ver is stable) on xda and remember to change the wake to 16 from 256 default, it is a script to fix android UI lag. Since 512MB ram isn't enough, you could give SuperCharge V6 memory management script a try as well.
I have used all stuffs above personally and my One V now is much more useable. Don't overclock much, some phones or kernel don't do good in overclocking.
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I have not used any SuperCharged V6 script, did it come along with my myONEv ROM? If not, is it a big upgrade if I flash it? I think I'll consider buying Greenify full version as you said, this is going to help a lot. However still, I am not experiencing any lags yet(fresh system).
Just curious, what settings do you guys use for the paid greenify? And btw im on rhytmic rom 4.2.2
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Just curious, what settings do you guys use for the paid greenify? And btw im on rhytmic rom 4.2.2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
There is no extra settings in donate ver, the only different is allows you to freeze a lot more apps which doesn't support in the free ver but you have to install xposed installer and enable both free/donate in it and reboot.
kwitu said:
I have not used any SuperCharged V6 script, did it come along with my myONEv ROM? If not, is it a big upgrade if I flash it? I think I'll consider buying Greenify full version as you said, this is going to help a lot. However still, I am not experiencing any lags yet(fresh system).
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No, only Sense 4 Canadian KOODO comes with SuperCharge V6 but you can install it on myONEv rom. I'm using it on mySENSE 3.5 rom pretty much identical to yours but with full sense, it works nearly perfect with my rom/kernel fixed most of the memory problem. It doesn't give you God mode but provides a very constant/stable speed environment and hence, increased overall user experiences with the spend of a little bit battery(I think it actually uses me 20% battery more, not sure if my settings go wrong).
So..... if you don't encounter any memory shortage problem during multi-tasking, you might not need it, try it yourself. It ate me 40~50mb free memory but I think it just need some space to do management or caching, or again it might be my settings problem sololy. There are too much of tweaking options in this script. If you want a speed hack, you should try CrossBreeder script(5.21 build with wake16) instead, it does speed up your UI responsive and in my experiences, it saved me around 20% battery as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Supercharge V6 main page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42884332#post42884332
Supercharge V6 lastest build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914159
Ultimate Jar Power Tools
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252297&highlight=supercharger
The installation guide
Actually, the installation procedure isn't that hard but I just don't understand why they can write/explain it in 10 pages length with some crazy English and made me sat in front of monitor for an hour to read all stuffs.
1. I use adb shell(via windows7 command prompt)
2. Type adb shell and then sh /sdcard/supercharger/V6* <-- just put the script in /sdcard/supercharger
3. Pretty much it will go through the process itself in command prompt but just ask you to select some settings(with description so don't worry)
4. At the end, it will ask you to install Ultimate Jar Power Tools manually before continue.
5. The file after download appear to be Ultimatic_Jar_Patcher_Tools_RC6_ALL_DEX_Windows.exe.zip and I rename it to U.exe by myself in command prompt and double click it to run it in windows. Remember to put ALL_ROMS_Ultimate_Jar_Power_Tools-Smali_Patcher_RC9.sh in the same folder/directory.
6. The U.exe will auto-launch a command prompt out in your windows and start to pull the services.jar off your phone and patch it and push it back to your phone and phone will auto-reboot. That's it.
7. Now, you can go back V6 script to continue the setup. Type adb shell and then sh /sdcard/supercharger/V6* again, this time it will skip the installation menu but give you a config menu instead. You can change or enable/disable all settings here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
1. If you have some dated library in phone, you can update them with SuperCharger_Starter_Kit_RC12.zip. Extract it into your sdcard, use Smanager(script manager on play store) to run StartMeUp.sh, remember to click on the root(su icon) before run.
2. If your kernel or rom either one doesn't support init.d(script auto-run during boot). If you have this problem, your supercharge option menu will tell you at 50% level probably, not 100%. You will need to use smanager to click the /data/99supercharger.sh as run on boot and remember to click on the root(su icon) too. Click save and exit and reboot.
This is all the steps in short, I think my guide actually is the best....hehe
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
There is no extra settings in donate ver, the only different is allows you to freeze a lot more apps which doesn't support in the free ver but you have to install xposed installer and enable both free/donate in it and reboot.
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Which do you also suggest to freeze? I freezed only recently opened which I don't want to be running. Not used any from the "show more apps" thing. (talking about paid version now) Btw thank you for your detailed instruction about the scripts, I'll get to it one day when I feel my phone gets laggy.
One more thing, any battery tips? Dunno if it's just my feeling but today it drained a lot more than yesterday with no big difference in usage I guess.
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Which do you also suggest to freeze? I freezed only recently opened which I don't want to be running. Not used any from the "show more apps" thing. (talking about paid version now) Btw thank you for your detailed instruction about the scripts, I'll get to it one day when I feel my phone gets laggy.
One more thing, any battery tips? Dunno if it's just my feeling but today it drained a lot more than yesterday with no big difference in usage I guess.
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Some process/app like to come out in background sliently without tell you or ask your permission. You'll need to use SystemPanel Lite to keep checking periodly to find out which is bad, or you can use "show more apps" to freeze all of them. Just make sure don't freeze chat apps(Hangout, Whatsapp, Skype) and some important process/app like HTC connect to PC(USB Mass Storage mode), Bluetooth service, Setcpu, MyTask(or else no one could ring you maybe), Message(SMS).
Try to wipe the cache and d-cache partition and sometimes One V battery percentage/report isn't that accurate. Or try uninstall greenify if it conflicts with your rom?
Well, crossbreeder and supercharge they are free script and easy installation in mind. In my opinion, no reason not to give them a shoot. No lagging and fast, remember there is a big different. Supercharge I believe it's not useful anymore for new phones got 1GB+ ram but to the 384/512MB/768MB is still helpful. Crossbreeder got reporting good on even all new smartphones with S4 Dual/Quad CPU.
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Some process/app like to come out in background sliently without tell you or ask your permission. You'll need to use SystemPanel Lite to keep checking periodly to find out which is bad, or you can use "show more apps" to freeze all of them. Just make sure don't freeze chat apps(Hangout, Whatsapp, Skype) and some important process/app like HTC connect to PC(USB Mass Storage mode), Bluetooth service, Setcpu, MyTask(or else no one could ring you maybe), Message(SMS).
Try to wipe the cache and d-cache partition and sometimes One V battery percentage/report isn't that accurate. Or try uninstall greenify if it conflicts with your rom?
Well, crossbreeder and supercharge they are free script and easy installation in mind. In my opinion, no reason not to give them a shoot. No lagging and fast, remember there is a big different.
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So basicly flashing Crossbreeder from this post will improve my battery life right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150
I also wanted to ask if this really is wroth goin for it? My battery drops by 2-4% by night, but I guess the trick here is that it improves the active battery usage right?
kwitu said:
So basicly flashing Crossbreeder from this post will improve my battery life right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150
I also wanted to ask if this really is wroth goin for it? My battery drops by 2-4% by night, but I guess the trick here is that it improves the active battery usage right?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
If you really want to find out which is battery drain part, you will need BetterBatteryStats.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl
And Battery Monitor Widget(check with statistics since unplug)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gyw6uq
CrossBreeder will only helpful for UI. Only 5.21.13 is release ver thats why the developer keeps it, don't try 7.21.13 all recent build are beta, buggy and battery drain. I don't know why the developer didn't keep the 5.21.13 uninstaller but luckily I still have it in my HD so in case you meet any problem, you can uninstall it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42093679&postcount=2
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.root.browserfree&hl=zh_TW
For the 5.21.13, you will need to change the write_wakeup_threshold to 16 and reboot via root browser or root explorer.
TheEndHK said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
If you really want to find out which is battery drain part, you will need BetterBatteryStats.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl
And Battery Monitor Widget(check with statistics since unplug)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gyw6uq
CrossBreeder will only helpful for UI. Only 5.21.13 is release ver thats why the developer keeps it, don't try 7.21.13 all recent build are beta, buggy and battery drain. I don't know why the developer didn't keep the 5.21.13 uninstaller but luckily I still have it in my HD so in case you meet any problem, you can uninstall it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42093679&postcount=2
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.root.browserfree&hl=zh_TW
For the 5.21.13, you will need to change the write_wakeup_threshold to 16 and reboot via root browser or root explorer.
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Thank you for your time. I am installing the xda-dev link. I think the most draining part is the screen but we shall see after this apps gets onto my board. Whenever I will need this uninstaller for version 5.21.13 I'll contact you, thank you for your time and engagement. Learned a lot of new stuff today Cheers!
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Thank you for your time. I am installing the xda-dev link. I think the most draining part is the screen but we shall see after this apps gets onto my board. Whenever I will need this uninstaller for version 5.21.13 I'll contact you, thank you for your time and engagement. Learned a lot of new stuff today Cheers!
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/gyw6uq
This is the 5.21.13 uninstaller link.
I would like to introduce one more stuff in this thread. Though Supercharged V6 is great but used more battery and too complicated for beginner.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36794328#post36794328
That developer also has a small Kernel tweaking script with a bit memory management called KiskAssKerneler, it doesn't drain battery but works good, my system is also faster and memory management better alone with this script. For whose who want improvement but thought supercharge v6 is too complex, try this out.
EDIT: KickAss actually also used more battery but just might not be as much as V6. I would prefer to stick with V6 for more true performance.
I find that installing titanium backup and setting a schedule to clear system cache then reboot helps a ton with making it faster. I usually set this for 5-6 am in the morning when im asleep but you can change it to whatever time you want. I also set it to run everyday rather than every other day. I also recommend crossbreader, it helps a bunch!
To deal with lag I flashed Crossbreeder, OC'ed to 1.4GHz set zRam to 10%, set KSM, enabled purge assets, enabled 16-bit transparency, set SIO as I/O scheduler and Lionheart as CPU governor. I still get lag while multitasking but now is a good everyday phone.
Its gonna help a bit as there is no huge amount of data required to read over and over again. Not worth deleting music. Slightly noticable effect.
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