Getting it in the UK - Sony Xperia ZL

Hi all,
From all that I have seen it doesn't look like the ZL will be officially available in the UK. As such the options for buying a C6503 model are:
Import from Europe
It's quite expensive at the moment, and the retailer which should have no problems shipping abroad (Amazon) had the highest price of them all last time I checked. I can definitely see this working fine, with the German version having en_GB locale support and playing nicely with the operators.
Import from Asia (ie HK)
From Expansys (http://www.expansys.com.hk/sony-xperia-zl-lte-c6503-unlocked-16gb-black-247249) the total works out cheaper by about £60, with the shipping not being much slower. The other positives are that in HK they use the same power plugs as in the UK (no need to mess with power adaptors), and en_GB would definitely come preloaded as a locale. The only worry is that the manufacturer model quoted is 'AP_C6503_BLK', where the 'AP' stands for the Asia-Pacific version. I'm wondering whether this could have any implications on the hardware and software. I suppose as software goes it should always be possible to reflash it to a German firmware, but I can't help but think that something could be different.
Also found this: http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=21943
Despite coming up on Google Shopping with good reviews, I found other review websites which seemed to suggest the opposite. They also claimed to have had it in stock two or three weeks ago (I've been following this page for a while), when it wasn't even released in Europe. Both of these make me think that this website is a bit dodgy, and make me wonder where the device originally comes from (HK, Germany, Russia?).
I'm seriously inclining towards the second option, but I'm wondering whether anyone around here has previous experience or some information that might be able to help make the best choice.
Thanks.

Amazon Germany and Amazon Italy now have it for circa €560.

Nooo!! do not buy from simply electronics! I had an awful experience and a quick Google will give you the same feedback.
I am in the UK. Love the phone.
I bought mine from eBay from a seller in HK. Took 2 days to arrive via FedEx $599
Seller: jetcodigital
Expect to pay import tax although they did send as a gift with value of $100 so you might be lucky.
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trickyhenry said:
Nooo!! do not buy from simply electronics! I had an awful experience and a quick Google will give you the same feedback.
I am in the UK. Love the phone.
I bought mine from eBay from a seller in HK. Took 2 days to arrive via FedEx $599
Seller: jetcodigital
Expect to pay import tax although they did send as a gift with value of $100 so you might be lucky.
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Yeah, that's kind of what I figured about Simply Electronics.
So presumably the device you have is an Asia-Pacific version. Did you notice any differences or oddities when it came to the software/hardware?
Thanks for the feedback, I haven't actually checked eBay yet but will give it a quick look.

Hi I haven't noticed anything strange yet. Seems like the right version for me. No odd software or anything. I'm using it on three UK. Everything has worked great right out of the box. Very pleased.
Now I can sell my htc ONE. ( ZL camera is better )
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trickyhenry said:
Hi I haven't noticed anything strange yet. Seems like the right version for me. No odd software or anything. I'm using it on three UK. Everything has worked great right out of the box. Very pleased.
Now I can sell my htc ONE. ( ZL camera is better )
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Another 3 uk user here, got my 6503 for ~£500 after shipping and tax from the states seller: never-msrp.
Even works on 3's secret LTE
Only issue is the US AC adapter.

I am gonna buy a white 6503 version from the German site; Cyberport.de
They can send it to several countries and the prices for that aren't that high.
The phone itself will cost you €550,00 and the shipping to the Netherlands (where I live) are only €13,00.
They've got the black version in stock, and the white version (that I want) is gonna be there in several days.
If you want to check out other stores in Germany:
Geizhals.de: black Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: white Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: red Sony Xperia ZL

Well, I ended up buying it from Amazon.de, which worked out to pretty much £500 after shipping and currency conversion. While Expansys.com.hk would have been cheaper, I felt that the European warranty was worth the additional price.
The funny thing is that I ordered yesterday and I should get it tomorrow. Ordering a device which isn't available in the UK, from Amazon.de, and guess what? The device was in the Milton Keynes distribution centre! Seems almost ridiculous, really.

Let us know how you get on.
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CLB-NL said:
I am gonna buy a white 6503 version from the German site; Cyberport.de
They can send it to several countries and the prices for that aren't that high.
The phone itself will cost you €550,00 and the shipping to the Netherlands (where I live) are only €13,00.
They've got the black version in stock, and the white version (that I want) is gonna be there in several days.
If you want to check out other stores in Germany:
Geizhals.de: black Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: white Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: red Sony Xperia ZL
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I would like a white one but love the black one anyway now I have it. I couldn't wait like you...
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trickyhenry said:
I would like a white one but love the black one anyway now I have it. I couldn't wait like you...
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Yeah it will be white for me, only little thing is that the notification led is better to see on the black one I think...
But I don't like the shiny sides of the black one, and when I first saw the white version I fell in love, so that's why.
And I think the notificationbar and bar with the buttons will look better on the white, on the black ZL it looks so greyish.

I got mine today, and man... it sure looks good and feels nice. It feels a bit heavy, compared to my S3, but I'll get used to that. The screen also looks good when looking at it directly, but gets worse as soon as the viewing angle increases. Although I suppose this is a good thing, as other people trying to look at my device shouldn't see as much as on my S3! The bezel on the side looks a bit bigger than on the pictures, but it's not a big deal. Overall when looking at video or pictures fullscreen it looks stunning, since there is so little bezel.
Now, since I'm a power user, I'm wondering whether I want to unlock the bootloader or just root. I actually don't mind Sony's customisations that much (barring Chrome instead of the stock browser, and the standard Gallery app), however if CM becomes stable enough I might put it on. Perhaps just the root for locked bootloaders will be good enough for now.

Nice to know some others in the uk have one. It's an exclusive club!)
Great phone so far for me. No regrets and no disappointment. I feel the same about the viewing angles. I'm stock all the way for once so will enjoy the factory experience.
I'm trialing the battery saving features at the moment. So far today I have had some good results. I'm not one for these features normally but I thought a the phone has had them I would give it a go.
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Xperia S Case show

A thread for sharing and showing off Cases, bumbers , sleeves or any kind of protector
So show us what you find or what you buy
i will start
i like these
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/s/[email protected]_mall/proclip/cabinet/cp/smartphone/cp12so02d.jpg
price is around 1300 jpy or $16 usd
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...=http://item.rakuten.co.jp/proclip/cp12so02d/
http://global.rakuten.com/en/search?st=&t=new&tl=0&t=new&k=xperia+nx rakuten Global site
when you search write Xperia NX
the rakuten japan site has more awesome stuff but you have to google translate the page after you search
http://www.rakuten.co.jp/
alsaqr said:
A thread for sharing and showing off Cases, bumbers , sleeves or any kind of protector
i will start
i like these
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/s/[email protected]_mall/proclip/cabinet/cp/smartphone/cp12so02d.jpg
price is around 1300 jpy or $16 usd
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...=http://item.rakuten.co.jp/proclip/cp12so02d/
http://global.rakuten.com/en/search?st=&t=new&tl=0&t=new&k=xperia+nx rakuten Global site
when you search write Xperia NX
the rakuten japan site has more awesome stuff but you have to google translate the page after you search
http://www.rakuten.co.jp/
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Dude these are pretty awesome, specially Silicon case.
There are some nice ones here
http://www.carrymobile.com
and some more:
http://e-store2011.blogspot.com
Nimche said:
There are some nice ones here
http://www.carrymobile.com
and some more:
http://e-store2011.blogspot.com
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the leather one is nice
quick question
does the back clear part light up too or is it only from front ?
cause some cases dont have the opening on the back
The light bar is transparent, you can see right through it.
alsaqr said:
the leather one is nice
quick question
does the back clear part light up too or is it only from front ?
cause some cases dont have the opening on the back
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Yea man, the ROCK have different version too,
I'm currently located in China and this taobao.com site has some different one like grey, maroon and black which look really nice.
But I want a one which shows the Transparent element
Nimche said:
There are some nice ones here
http://www.carrymobile.com
and some more:
http://e-store2011.blogspot.com
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Found the same covers from e-store2011, on obostore.com but only 10$ cheaper
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Ordered a very nice rubber case from ebay. Theres the pic of it, what d you think?
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leetjimis said:
Ordered a very nice rubber case from ebay. Theres the pic of it, what d you think?
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It looks okay. I waiting for one of the hard shell casings that should be out in the next few weeks.
alsaqr said:
the leather one is nice
quick question
does the back clear part light up too or is it only from front ?
cause some cases dont have the opening on the back
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Three lights are located at the top center of transparent piece. so it should light up front and back evenly.
Went to T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon retail stores today looking for a universal case that would hold this device and none of them had one!
This cannot possibly be the only 5" device on the market. Pathetic selection. What kind of business model doesn't have accessories to support the devices they provide?
augie7107 said:
Went to T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon retail stores today looking for a universal case that would hold this device and none of them had one!
This cannot possibly be the only 5" device on the market. Pathetic selection. What kind of business model doesn't have accessories to support the devices they provide?
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I totally agree with what you say and unfortunately we have to wait till it becomes more avaiblable in the US. If we were in Europe or else where it would be easier.
All the stores like ATT tMobile, etc. in the US are garbage and useless. Unfortunately this is how it is here.
Nimche said:
I totally agree with what you say and unfortunately we have to wait till it becomes more avaiblable in the US. If we were in Europe or else where it would be easier.
All the stores like ATT tMobile, etc. in the US are garbage and useless. Unfortunately this is how it is here.
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Nimche, you don't know how it is here in Brazil... Hahaha. Anyway, yes, having no support on a product you bought... really sucks.
I had one of the FEW Sony Ericsson Satio that were sold in Brazil, and trust me... A Nissan Pathfinder went over it, and the cellphone was still working perfectly, but obviously over asphalt the screen got cracked... There was NO Sony Ericsson retailers that had the screen, and only to fix it, it'd cost me 1/3 of the price of the device...
Anyways, I'm receiving a hard case from Handtec with my order. You can get the hard case here: handtec.co.uk/product.php/6407/sony-xperia-s-shell-case---black
Picture: handtec.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/Sony_Xperia_S_Flip_Shell_Case_Black_M.jpg
And a leather flip case, in case someone wants it: handtec.co.uk/product.php/6406/sony-xperia-s-leather-flip-case---black
Picture: handtec.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/Sony_Xperia_S_Flip_Case_Black_M.jpg
Hope it helps someone.
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i like Tpu case
Yes, I feel what you say as well. No wonder here in the US people like to get iPhone alot because you go to store and buy the darn thing with all the accessories you want and even WindowsMobile you could go to MS store and get it but Sony with all the power it has is like Sh*t. You go to store, you find the most useless people on the planet to work there, they have no clue what they are selling and no information of what is coming. Every time I go there, I have to surprise them with new Sony's technology.
That hard case is like the original Sony branded (website didn't fully work) but I think Clove at UK and Expansys USA will start selling them too Expansys USA
I like the blue one tho.
ErichSan said:
Nimche, you don't know how it is here in Brazil... Hahaha. Anyway, yes, having no support on a product you bought... really sucks.
I had one of the FEW Sony Ericsson Satio that were sold in Brazil, and trust me... A Nissan Pathfinder went over it, and the cellphone was still working perfectly, but obviously over asphalt the screen got cracked... There was NO Sony Ericsson retailers that had the screen, and only to fix it, it'd cost me 1/3 of the price of the device...
Anyways, I'm receiving a hard case from Handtec with my order. You can get the hard case here: handtec.co.uk/product.php/6407/sony-xperia-s-shell-case---black
Picture: handtec.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/Sony_Xperia_S_Flip_Shell_Case_Black_M.jpg
And a leather flip case, in case someone wants it: handtec.co.uk/product.php/6406/sony-xperia-s-leather-flip-case---black
Picture: handtec.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/Sony_Xperia_S_Flip_Case_Black_M.jpg
Hope it helps someone.
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Nimche said:
Yes, I feel what you say as well. No wonder here in the US people like to get iPhone alot because you go to store and buy the darn thing with all the accessories you want and even WindowsMobile you could go to MS store and get it but Sony with all the power it has is like Sh*t. You go to store, you find the most useless people on the planet to work there, they have no clue what they are selling and no information of what is coming. Every time I go there, I have to surprise them with new Sony's technology.
That hard case is like the original Sony branded (website didn't fully work) but I think Clove at UK and Expansys USA will start selling them too Expansys USA
I like the blue one tho.
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yeah im gonna get that blue one i think
the best accessories for sony are in Japan but thats like obvious since Sony is Japanese
Sony Style needs catching up
to increase cell phone sales you need to give people varieties of accessories
alsaqr said:
yeah im gonna get that blue one i think
the best accessories for sony are in Japan but thats like obvious since Sony is Japanese
Sony Style needs catching up
to increase cell phone sales you need to give people varieties of accessories
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I went to Sony Style yesterday to maybe surprise myself and find some guys with knowledge but it failed... What did I expect? They have some nice wifi speakers tho. Maybe I get one.
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These are also nice but I don't like their logo in the back.
Case on Ebay
I am going to be ordering the Nillikin case for this. Only a tenner and happy to wait the couple of weeks it will take from china. Nillikin have good reviews so I think this could be a winner. I cannot post links yet but it is item number 160760327876 on eBay UK for a pictures
EDIT: Blimey, I should have clicked on the link in the post above, that is exactly the case I ordered. Will let you know how it feels if it comes before anyone else gets it
@alsaqr I like the blue one a lot!! It looks pretty good and should be very comfortable holding in hand.
Nimche said:
[/COLOR]These are also nice but I don't like their logo in the back.
Case on Ebay
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thnx Nimche
it comes in red too
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nillkin-Har...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item1e6c28cf4f
nice quality
they have glossy white one too

Amazon UK (temporarily) stop selling White One X

Amazon UK have put a stop-sell on the white One X apparently due to quality concerns. A colleague was told he couldn't have his faulty One X replaced and they could only offer a refund at this time. He called up to ask why, and they said there had been "quality concerns".
If you go to the Amazon UK page you will see:-
Item Under Review
This product is not currently offered by Amazon.co.uk because a customer recently told us that the item he or she received was not as described.
We are working to resolve this as quickly as possible. In the meantime, you may still find this product available from other sellers on this page.
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Strangely they are still selling the grey one.
good going HTC...
Probably related to the white back not being quite as impervious as they thought. One of the reasons I got the grey one... nothing stays clean in the same house as my 1 year old.
They might not listen to us lot on xda but I bet they'll take notice when a company as large as Amazon expresses concerns and stops selling the product.
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maybe they will wake up now... or probably more reseller need to do the same until htc is going to listen to the community and not just ignore us.
like here: http://blog.htc.com/2012/04/your-phone-your-thoughts-tell-us-what-you-think/
over 200 negative posts and no single reply from htc, thats really poor!
PhysX said:
over 200 negative posts and no single reply from htc, thats really poor!
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How many of those are just requesting S-Off though.
PhysX said:
maybe they will wake up now... or probably more reseller need to do the same until htc is going to listen to the community and not just ignore us.
like here: http://blog.htc.com/2012/04/your-phone-your-thoughts-tell-us-what-you-think/
over 200 negative posts and no single reply from htc, thats really poor!
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yes i guess they don't know what to say lol
It doesn't look like Amazon are selling the grey one either. If you select grey it shows the seller as webtrader instead of directly from Amazon.
Or is this normal? I've noticed that the seller seems to change every day anyway. Sometimes direct from Amazon, other times not. Is that when they run out of stock or something?
jonathanyong said:
It doesn't look like Amazon are selling the grey one either. If you select grey it shows the seller as webtrader instead of directly from Amazon.
Or is this normal? I've noticed that the seller seems to change every day anyway. Sometimes direct from Amazon, other times not. Is that when they run out of stock or something?
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Not sure why its not displaying for you but I just double checked and I can definitely still order a grey one from Amazon UK directly from them (not a seller). I would not be at all surprised if the grey ones are pulled as well shortly. I don't think the issue is to do with anything specific about the white casing.
jonstatt said:
Not sure why its not displaying for you but I just double checked and I can definitely still order a grey one from Amazon UK directly from them (not a seller). I would not be at all surprised if the grey ones are pulled as well shortly. I don't think the issue is to do with anything specific about the white casing.
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nothing to do with color
white is selling more = more complaints lol
I received a replacement grey from Amazon today (shipped yesterday) so they must still have some. Batch number HT241W - hopefully a good one! Not had time to test it yet.
Sad to hear this, o2 also unhappy with the return rate they're getting on the One X.
jonstatt said:
Not sure why its not displaying for you but I just double checked and I can definitely still order a grey one from Amazon UK directly from them (not a seller). I would not be at all surprised if the grey ones are pulled as well shortly. I don't think the issue is to do with anything specific about the white casing.
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Weird, I'm seeing this:
jonathanyong said:
Weird, I'm seeing this:
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Not sold by Amazon tho mate
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jameslfc5 said:
Not sold by Amazon tho mate
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That's what I'm saying...
Currently 16 sellers of the grey model on Amazon - including Amazon. I think they only direct a portion of the search results to their own product, otherwise the other retailers would never get a look in. Look at the "More Buying Choices" column on the right hand side.
I'm betting that Amazon have returned their stock of the white one, which is why they can't offer returns. I got one from them last Friday, HT23Z (and thus far problem free) so I suspect all their stock was HT23. When they start selling the white one again I reckon they'll have a later batch.
I am an Amazon prime customer so I think it is prioritising the one sold by Amazon directly for me because of the included next day service on it. Sometimes it favours the "cheapest" vendor, which is 15 pounds lower than Amazon directly.....so maybe thats why it showed that one in this case.
markd66 said:
Currently 16 sellers of the grey model on Amazon - including Amazon. I think they only direct a portion of the search results to their own product, otherwise the other retailers would never get a look in. Look at the "More Buying Choices" column on the right hand side.
I'm betting that Amazon have returned their stock of the white one, which is why they can't offer returns. I got one from them last Friday, HT23Z (and thus far problem free) so I suspect all their stock was HT23. When they start selling the white one again I reckon they'll have a later batch.
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Ah that makes sense. The randomness is pretty annoying though. I wished they'd just default to Amazon and let you see the other seller prices.
Well done HTC
But officially there isn't any problem ...
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i noticed that message the first time recently while looking at 3d computer monitors. one of them can only be bought from a third party seller because of too many Amazon returns.

[Q] Where to buy replacement housing/rear frame?

Well, it had to happen sooner or later. Today I dropped my phone for the first time ever! The only problem is that the phone was my brand new N7100. Anyone know where to get a quality replacement housing? Screen and battery cover are okay. Only chrome was scratched.
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
Well, it had to happen sooner or later. Today I dropped my phone for the first time ever! The only problem is that the phone was my brand new N7100. Anyone know where to get a quality replacement housing? Screen and battery cover are okay. Only chrome was scratched.
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Sorry to hear about that but since the phone is relatively new I haven't seen any being sold.
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Tuesday, October 30, 2012
Galaxy Note II Owners & XDA Members:
I'm sorry. I should have been more specific. I've found several places claiming to sell that for which I'm looking. I've posted some below.
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http://www.gsmsp.com/products/Spare..._for_Samsung_Note2_N7100_White_171_21534.html
http://www.witrigs.com/back-housing-frame-replacement-for-samsung-galaxy-note-2-n7100-white
http://cnn.cn/shop/samsung-n7100-galaxy-note-marble-white-backplate-p-16442.html
https://www.gounlock.com/details.php?itemId=8659
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What I need, is a reliable seller that has a quality rear housing. My problem is that I've never heard of any of these sellers and I have no idea how well the housings they're selling were made.
Could someone please point me in the right direction? Have any of you ever ordered from one of these sellers? I'm really short on options here. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Edward (Mister_Mxyzptlk)
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Bump. Anyone?
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I would say check out www.cnn.cn I have used that site in the past to get parts for various smartphones of mine especially BB stuff way back in the day. I know they have GN2 N7100 dummy phones for sale, so you may be able to use the parts on one of those.
RaptorMD said:
I would say check out www.cnn.cn I have used that site in the past to get parts for various smartphones of mine especially BB stuff way back in the day. I know they have GN2 N7100 dummy phones for sale, so you may be able to use the parts on one of those.
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RaptorMD:
Ya', cnn.cn carries the housing. It's actually one of the links I included in my previous post. I appreciate you letting me know that they're a straight-forward business though. That was my main worry. However, location is also another big worry for me. Are you aware of any suppliers in the United States or Europe? Communication, shipping times, and reliability are just so much better when you're not dealing with potential scammers in China; and for some reason, it's always China.
I've worked with businesses and eBay sellers in South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, India, Australia, the U.K., Germany, and China, and it's always China. I've had a chinese business try to scam me. I've had a chinese business ship me shawdy replacement parts and claim that they're original. If it's not one thing, it's another. Then on the flipside, all of the best stuff comes from China. I have a supplier in China that gets me all of my replacement iPhone parts for my business, and they're fantastic; so is his customer service! It's just so difficult to determine which sellers are good and which sellers are total crap.
Anyway, I should wrap this up. If I don't, it'll turn into a neverending rant. So, if you say that cnn.cn is a good, reliable seller, I guess I'll go ahead and give them a shot. I appreciate your post, and hope you have a pleasant day. Take care and have a good one!
Thank you,
Ed
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Sorry Ed, I am not aware of any other suppliers to recommend. I live here in the US as well and have purchased from them many times all without any issue. Still it can be concerning when ordering something from overseas and waiting and waiting and waiting some more for it to arrive.
if it's only scratched chrome, it won't bother me with the protective cover on, hehe
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I actually bothered to check cnn.cn
Samsung N7100 Galaxy Note II OEM Marble White backplate
Includes the chrome bezel, backplate, camera lens, camera flash lens, loudspeaker grille, volume button, and antennas
all that for $9.99!?

[Q] So, did your ZL first arrive sealed?

I recently bought a C6503 from a German eBay seller, but it wasn't sealed in any way. More importantly, the phone had clearly been removed at least once from the plastic bag it came in, because there was a dent from the camera on the other side. It had been reinserted the other way around, then sent to me. I returned the phone.
I've now imported another C6503 from phonehouse.de and it too has arrived unsealed - neither the box nor the phone arrived sealed in any way. It mostly looks like it's been untouched. Some unboxing videos on YouTube show sealed versions, others not.
Which was yours? The most important reason for it to be sealed, to me, is because I want to condition the battery before turning the phone on, and if someone has used it before me then there's a chance I won't be able to. Plus, I like new stuff
Was your box sealed? Was the phone sealed in the plastic bag when in the box?
I bought my ZL at Amazon.de and it was not sealed. But I am sure that device was unused. The plastic protector was originally on the phone, also USB cable and earphones were not touched.
I know sometimes the box must be opened to insert local guarantee sheet, manuals, etc. in the box. Sometimes also some local changes are made on the device.
I don't have any troubles with my phone and I am really surprised when I see so many posts where users state their problems. Camera is great, battery life is excellent, scrolling is smooth, really no problems with my ZL, although the package was not sealed.
I got mine from Bell Canada and was sealed with a sony sticker
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Bought mine from eBay and the box was sealed with a Sony sticker.
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Mine was sealed, purchased from Newegg.
Interesting.. so far, all the North American phones have been sealed, but those from Europe (although mine's manufactured in China) were not.
schnidex said:
Interesting.. so far, all the North American phones have been sealed, but those from Europe (although mine's manufactured in China) were not.
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Newegg buys it's Z/ZL from Malaysia.
ryude said:
Newegg buys it's Z/ZL from Malaysia.
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Okay, fair enough. Meanwhile, slightly worrying for me is that when I 'first' turned the phone on today, it booted straight away in German and didn't ask me to select a language or any other setup. It all looked new, but this suspects me to think someone else has turned it on before me. I don't know if there's a way I can check, but I was pretty disappointed by this.
I'm wondering however if it's a German retail thing, because this is the second order I've had from Germany (from different suppliers) and both were completely unsealed. Perhaps there's a law that requires them to check it boots up before shipping..?
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Okay, fair enough. Meanwhile, slightly worrying for me is that when I 'first' turned the phone on today, it booted straight away in German and didn't ask me to select a language or any other setup. It all looked new, but this suspects me to think someone else has turned it on before me. I don't know if there's a way I can check, but I was pretty disappointed by this.
I'm wondering however if it's a German retail thing, because this is the second order I've had from Germany (from different suppliers) and both were completely unsealed. Perhaps there's a law that requires them to check it boots up before shipping..?
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The language is determined by the customization, different regions have different customizations. Mine came with English (UK) pre-selected.
Bought mine from eBay (USA) and the box was sealed with a Sony sticker. Model C6503.
mine sealed c6506 usa
schnidex said:
Okay, fair enough. Meanwhile, slightly worrying for me is that when I 'first' turned the phone on today, it booted straight away in German and didn't ask me to select a language or any other setup. It all looked new, but this suspects me to think someone else has turned it on before me. I don't know if there's a way I can check, but I was pretty disappointed by this.
I'm wondering however if it's a German retail thing, because this is the second order I've had from Germany (from different suppliers) and both were completely unsealed. Perhaps there's a law that requires them to check it boots up before shipping..?
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My ZL was bought at Amazon.de as I told you in my previous post and the box was not sealed, but as I remembered the first thing when I turned the phone on was selecting the language and setup guide ...
In general, I'm also wondering what happens with those products that had been sold through internet sales and later returned by customers and of course already used? Is there any rule that buyer must get completely new device ?
schnidex said:
I'm wondering however if it's a German retail thing, because this is the second order I've had from Germany (from different suppliers) and both were completely unsealed. Perhaps there's a law that requires them to check it boots up before shipping..?
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I don't know about that, I got a Panasonic ELUGA from Germany last year and it was sealed in the box. It had never been booted up.
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sarobi said:
My ZL was bought at Amazon.de as I told you in my previous post and the box was not sealed, but as I remembered the first thing when I turned the phone on was selecting the language and setup guide ...
In general, I'm also wondering what happens with those products that had been sold through internet sales and later returned by customers and of course already used? Is there any rule that buyer must get completely new device ?
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Thank you for this. The phone is probably fine, but for the time being there is doubt in my mind.
I don't suppose anyone knows if there's a system menu I can access that will tell me how many times the phone has been booted? So far, I have only turned it on once, so if that number is anything more than one and can be shown on the system, I will have my answer.
I'd love to keep it, and not have the hassle of returning it, but it's such a lot of money and I want to love my handset 100%, and not have any doubt. It does seem strange that it didn't ask me for the setup guide, and the phone was also already set to vibrate which I thought was strange. Also, the Developer Options were already exposed, but I was of the belief that these need to be enabled by pressing the version number seven times.
The only thing is that I haven't yet put a SIM card in it, so I don't know if that means the phone wouldn't go straight to Setup.
Bought it straight from Sony Shop. That shop also sells other Sony products. Sealed.
C6503 Philippines.
I noticed the Sony Mobile shops here sell unsealed phones. Happen with my former Xperia S. Bought it there unsealed.
Sent from my C6503 using xda app-developers app
Bought a white one from Amazon.de and whilst the box was sealed the unit itself was defective - the metal around the lens was chipped and the glass side near the camera button was cracked. I sent it back yesterday and will get a refund. When I booted it up, it went straight into the German menu without asking me to choose language.
Anyway, I ordered another ZL (this time black) as I saw a cracking deal on Amazon.it who were charging just €310! Price now back up to €499.
6503 from amazon.de - sealed , brand new, perfect in every respect
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schnidex said:
Thank you for this. The phone is probably fine, but for the time being there is doubt in my mind.
I don't suppose anyone knows if there's a system menu I can access that will tell me how many times the phone has been booted? So far, I have only turned it on once, so if that number is anything more than one and can be shown on the system, I will have my answer.
I'd love to keep it, and not have the hassle of returning it, but it's such a lot of money and I want to love my handset 100%, and not have any doubt. It does seem strange that it didn't ask me for the setup guide, and the phone was also already set to vibrate which I thought was strange. Also, the Developer Options were already exposed, but I was of the belief that these need to be enabled by pressing the version number seven times.
The only thing is that I haven't yet put a SIM card in it, so I don't know if that means the phone wouldn't go straight to Setup.
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Bought a white one from Amazon.de and whilst the box was sealed the unit itself was defective - the metal around the lens was chipped and the glass side near the camera button was cracked. I sent it back yesterday and will get a refund. When I booted it up, it went straight into the German menu without asking me to choose language.
Anyway, I ordered another ZL (this time black) as I saw a cracking deal on Amazon.it who were charging just €310! Price now back up to €499.
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If a "new" phone doesn't boot into
setup (language choice) then it is not new! And, obviously, if it's broken in the box and the box is undamaged it's not new! Law is strict, if it is sold as new in product description it should be in factory condition ie. As left factory after fabrication...sealed and not having been switched on!
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stinky73 said:
If a "new" phone doesn't boot into
setup (language choice) then it is not new! And, obviously, if it's broken in the box and the box is undamaged it's not new! Law is strict, if it is sold as new in product description it should be in factory condition ie. As left factory after fabrication...sealed and not having been switched on!
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Exactly my thoughts, which is why I was surprised, since it was ordered direct from Amazon.de and I've never had any 'returns' passed off as a new phone before from them. Anyway, it went straight back as it was clear that either it was already used or someone at the Sony factory didn't do their job properly in passing appropriate QA tests.
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Exactly my thoughts, which is why I was surprised, since it was ordered direct from Amazon.de and I've never had any 'returns' passed off as a new phone before from them. Anyway, it went straight back as it was clear that either it was already used or someone at the Sony factory didn't do their job properly in passing appropriate QA tests.
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Good luck!! It'll be worth waiting for, but I'd be wary of the 4.2.2 update! Lots having troubles with it in other threads. I have had nothing but grief on many devices ! Out of the box on 4.1.2 easily the best android phone I have ever owned (there have been many ) and I am not going to spoil it with 4.2.2

Availabilities of the Mate 20 X (regions)

Hello everyone,
it's been 3 years ago since I've been rooting my Huawei P8Max and still have it and working fine. Although the stabilisator of my camer is out of place so it's making buzz sounds when using the camera and making bad photos. But also outdated too?
Anyway, I'm looking for a new phone and now it's between the Mate 20 and the Mate 20X. However... it's the same story again with the P8Max: not available for purchase here in the Netherlands.... What a [email protected]#*& joke! If I buy one from Chinese webstore, I may end up having Chinese apps with Chinese characters in lock screen and chinese characters in 'Configs - apps' which I cannot remove it despite I rooted it.
So what is the best place to buy the Mate 20X? German Mediamarks doesn't send to the Netherlands? Amazon? Or other places?
And what about the root possibilities? Has it changed much? Possible to root either the Mate 20 or Mate 20X? What can I do if rooted?
CTR640 said:
So what is the best place to buy the Mate 20X? German Mediamarks doesn't send to the Netherlands?
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You can buy in Mediamarkt.de and use a package forwarding service like Mailboxde.com
Governa said:
You can buy in Mediamarkt.de and use a package forwarding service like Mailboxde.com
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Can you explain more on how? I live a bit too far from the Germany borders so if I have to go over there, I can't. I don't own a car too.
CTR640 said:
Can you explain more on how? I live a bit too far from the Germany borders so if I have to go over there, I can't. I don't own a car too.
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Register on Mailboxde.com , they will provide you with their German address and a code. Order online from Mediamarkt.de and use the address Mailboxde provided, and in the name field put the code. Once they receive the package, it will be reshipped to your Dutch address for a fee. 15-20 Euros if I recall, depending on size and weight.
Read their website, it explains all in detail.
I believe you can buy it off clove and they are also including the m-pen and flip case cover. There are normally quite a few available from either Norway or Switzerland on eBay that have international shipping.
Why is that device so little spread with stores ? I bought it in the end at Saturn here in Germany, and I know its available at Mediamarkt. But then thats almost the same store these days.
But other than that, its hardly anywhere available in stores, local or online. How come ?
Is it that new ? I dont know when it was released here in germany. But since the above big local stores have it, why not more ? And especially online stores. Is that phone going to be one of those hardly introduced ones ?
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Why is that device so little spread with stores ? I bought it in the end at Saturn here in Germany, and I know its available at Mediamarkt. But then thats almost the same store these days.
But other than that, its hardly anywhere available in stores, local or online. How come ?
Is it that new ? I dont know when it was released here in germany. But since the above big local stores have it, why not more ? And especially online stores. Is that phone going to be one of those hardly introduced ones ?
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Exactly my thoughts. I thought Huawei has learned from the Huawei P8Max which was way to hard to get it and yet it happens with the 20X too!
I bought mine on Chinese webstore and I won't make the mistake again as I know there are European, Global and Chinese version. I didn't knew that back in 2015.
Mine was Chinese and it contained a lot of chinese bloat and apps I don't understand. German Mediamarkt sells the Mate 20X but Dutch Mediamarks doesn't?? Wtf?? Now I either got the choices to get it from European eBay sellers or Amazon.co.uk. I am only worried about the warranty between the countries and some has reported they got problems with the OLED screen after 4 days of use. And another thing is, I thought the Mate 20X has theTwilight version too but nope, only in silver and blue and I've seen the Mate20 Twilight in real store and I like it. So after a week of searching lots of informations and all, I'm thinking to go for the Mate20 here in the Netherlands to save myself from lots of troubles and headache. Shipping also takes long too :/
After gathering the info, this is what I've been told:
AL-00 is Chinese version
L29 is Europer version or non-Chinese
I never understood why there is always these differences with smartphones. Its like here in germany, when there is a new Smartphone introduced, its usually that we dont get all the colors (why the hell not???) or we only get the 256 GB version or only the 128 GB version or this or that, the other versions are always available in other countries only. I dont get it. Nowadays its slowly getting a bit more in regards to colors, that its not usually only the black, white & silver (or grey) version of phones that you can get here. But still, with a lot of phones its still the usual "This Version is not available here!" or so.
People are tired of only the basic colors by now. From different-size memory on the phone models i dont even wanna start, you only always get one model or maybe two, while there are in fact 3 or 4. Who decides what amount of memory people here "would want" to have, or which color we can get and why.
I am glad i found the Mate 20 X in Saturn & Mediamarkt in town, so I had it easy in this case. I could simply go there and buy it, but honestly i would have preferred ordering online with Amazon.
I think I made my choice: I'll go for the Mate 20 Twilight in my country to save myself lots of troubles and headache and eventually shipping when something is broken or some problems on the OLED screen of the Mate 20X. Just the colors black, blue and silver are simply boring, all my family have the basic black or grey colors of their iPhone, Samsung and Huawei. It would have been an insta-buy if Huawei sells the mate 20X Twilight in Netherlands too but nope, their logic is flawed, big time. #@&* it.
Is the Mate 20 root-able? And what can I do with it once it's rooted? Or should I keep it stock? I do know for sure it will have no more the chinese apps and characters like my P8Max have when I bought it from gizok. My cousin has the P10 from our country and he has no gibberish apps and I also have seen the Mate 20 in real life in a store, so beautiful phone And 3.5mm audiojack too!!!
In addition to the very little availability of the Mate 20 X (whyever), there are also hardly any good cases for it. Already asked UAG (Urban Armor Gear) which I used a lot over the years for many phones, but even they dont have any immediate plans to make a case for that phone. I suppose Huawei f**** that up, with releasing the phone so little compared to the other Mate 20 models. I dont get these companies, I really dont.
Yes, I experienced that about hardly good cases indeed! I was searching for good cases and the ones I found or suits my needs or I like, are not available for Mate 20X.
One more reason to go for the Mate 20 non-X. It's really a shame :/
True, but that doesnt make me scare away from the phone. There are several reasons, for me, why i wouldnt go for the other Mate 20 versions. For me, that large display is simply awesome. In addition, something i really hate on all the phones that have come to use these "supposedly" fancy edge displays. Samsung started this, and since the S6 Edge I learned one thing, rounded displays are prown to being broken very quickly. And repair costs of those is always much higer than with non-edge displays. The other Mate 20s have, as far as I know, all a rounded display, and already for that they are not interesting for me. Also, and i know that seems to be something one sooner or later has to get used to (but as long as I dont have to, why should I), i hate Headphone adapters. And the longer I can avoid using them, i will.
But the size of this phone is what really attracts me. Guess I can only hope some better cases come out in time.
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The other Mate 20s have, as far as I know, all a rounded display
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No, only the Mate 20 Pro.
Even so, but the other Mate 20s dont have that appeal to me.
Ye, I really would love a huge display and that's why I've been searching to death. I don't care about what everyone says about the size. The OLED display is also really nice too.
Filtering the search results on eBay shows some sellers from UK and EU which is pretty nice. They shouldn't be Chinese versions?
These are search results:
https://www.ebay.nl/sch/GSMs/9355/i...te%2020%20X&_nkw=mate+20+x&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=3
And a phone without a 3.5mm audiojack means: a very big no-no, end of story. Adapters are prone to be broken very soon or to get lost.

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