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Now, I thought, "hey, I'm not a novice with flashing ROM images, nor am I a *nix or system notice..." So, I decided to cook a ROM using the Online ROM kitchen: http://evo.feeder.pk/
I had run unrevoked3 + unrevoked forever, so I had clockwork recovery.
So, I copied the zipped ROM generated off the online ROM kitchen to the sdcard and then via clockwork installed /sdcard/update.zip (the ROM).
So, everything installed okay, then upon reboot, it seems to go into a reboot loop.
Lucky for me I performed a nandroid backup before installing the newly built ROM, and I'm in them middle of performing a nandroid restore; which I hope will resolve the problem.
1) Will the nandroid restore actually restore my entire phone back to how it was previously?
2) How do I actually install another ROM properly?
These are pretty n00b questions, but any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Matt
branded said:
Now, I thought, "hey, I'm not a novice with flashing ROM images, nor am I a *nix or system notice..." So, I decided to cook a ROM using the Online ROM kitchen: http://evo.feeder.pk/
I had run unrevoked3 + unrevoked forever, so I had clockwork recovery.
So, I copied the zipped ROM generated off the online ROM kitchen to the sdcard and then via clockwork installed /sdcard/update.zip (the ROM).
So, everything installed okay, then upon reboot, it seems to go into a reboot loop.
Lucky for me I performed a nandroid backup before installing the newly built ROM, and I'm in them middle of performing a nandroid restore; which I hope will resolve the problem.
1) Will the nandroid restore actually restore my entire phone back to how it was previously?
2) How do I actually install another ROM properly?
These are pretty n00b questions, but any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Matt
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1) Its supposed to...
2) From what it sounds like, you installed everything okay, just with a bad ROM image. Installing any of the other ROMs already posted should relieve you of your bootloops (as should the nandroid). Unless you try overclocking, which some folks experience bootloops when overclocked over 1.15.
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1) Its supposed to...
2) From what it sounds like, you installed everything okay, just with a bad ROM image. Installing any of the other ROMs already posted should relieve you of your bootloops (as should the nandroid). Unless you try overclocking, which some folks experience bootloops when overclocked over 1.15.
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Thank you sir. nandroid obviously did restore everything back to normal (wasn't sure to what extent nandroid backed up the device, but it looks like every single thing was backed up).
As for a ROM, I really just want the stock froyo ROM, but rooted... Do you have any suggestions? I can't go OTA since I have clockwork recovery.
Thanks,
Matt
branded said:
Thank you sir. nandroid obviously did restore everything back to normal (wasn't sure to what extent nandroid backed up the device, but it looks like every single thing was backed up).
As for a ROM, I really just want the stock froyo ROM, but rooted... Do you have any suggestions? I can't go OTA since I have clockwork recovery.
Thanks,
Matt
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I have flashed most of the ROMs here, but I have mostly been using CM6 (Cyanogenmod 6) since it came out. I did try Baked Snack, which is a very nice ROM with a beautiful theme, but it is Sense based and if by any chance you wanted to use a Wiimote for emulators, you cant. It is based off the HTC bluetooth stack, CM6 is not. Its kinda nice to get nightly (experimental) updates to flash if you want to also.
Its all a matter of personal preference, but my BEST results have been with CM6 - benchmark, features, and otherwise.
*E* You also may want to consider posting something like this in the Q&A forum next time...
Uhhhh Ohhhh wrong section
nol3n said:
I have flashed most of the ROMs here, but I have mostly been using CM6 (Cyanogenmod 6) since it came out. I did try Baked Snack, which is a very nice ROM with a beautiful theme, but it is Sense based and if by any chance you wanted to use a Wiimote for emulators, you cant. It is based off the HTC bluetooth stack, CM6 is not. Its kinda nice to get nightly (experimental) updates to flash if you want to also.
Its all a matter of personal preference, but my BEST results have been with CM6 - benchmark, features, and otherwise.
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Very cool. I'll take a look but I really want Sense, which I'm not sure if CM6 has. Thanks.
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Uhhhh Ohhhh wrong section
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Just flag the post and request a mod move it. There's really little reason to post a reply. It seemed like the best place given the descriptions of all the EVO sub-forums.
branded said:
Thank you sir. nandroid obviously did restore everything back to normal (wasn't sure to what extent nandroid backed up the device, but it looks like every single thing was backed up).
As for a ROM, I really just want the stock froyo ROM, but rooted... Do you have any suggestions? I can't go OTA since I have clockwork recovery.
Thanks,
Matt
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Just get netarchys rooted stock rom and you should be ok... just make sure you get the rooted version
Next time do a wipe of your davik cache before installing any rom
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Just get netarchys rooted stock rom and you should be ok... just make sure you get the rooted version
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Thanks playya...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
evolol said:
Next time do a wipe of your davik cache before installing any rom
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...-clockwork-clears-dalvik-cache-just-fine.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4535156&postcount=4
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/76110-what-dalvik-cache.html#post710236
And thank you both for ignoring that racist bag of donkey twats that responded earlier.
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Thanks playya... do you have a link?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4535156&postcount=4
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/76110-what-dalvik-cache.html#post710236
And thank you both for ignoring that racist bag of donkey twats that responded earlier.
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no problem quote from last response at that forum
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamasabian View Post
Ok. So I should just clear it when I do a data wipe to flash a new rom? Will it be a problem if I just do a data wipe and flash a new rom without doing the dalvik cache?
i have had issues when i dont clear the dalvik cache, but never had issues when i do. just cear it, nothing bad will happen and only good can come of it
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evolol said:
no problem quote from last response at that forum
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Originally Posted by Tamasabian View Post
Ok. So I should just clear it when I do a data wipe to flash a new rom? Will it be a problem if I just do a data wipe and flash a new rom without doing the dalvik cache?
i have had issues when i dont clear the dalvik cache, but never had issues when i do. just cear it, nothing bad will happen and only good can come of it
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Cool thank you I will do that and attempt to reflash this ROM that I cooked.
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agreed, theres a section for Q&A
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Flag the thread and request a mod move it. Glad that you all really want to up your post count so badly, shows real dedication to the forums cleanliness.
Your welcome...now show your dedication to this forum by following instructions & quit cluttering the development section with basic Questions
Not to delf: seems like I fall under a ClockworkRecovery user who's dalvik cache doesn't actually clear. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763) Kick ass!
I have the same problem as you!!!! I posted it in the wrong forum though so I'll briefly psot my problem and maybe someone can help me. I was trying to update my radio to the latest radio and it worked. I then realized I didn't have a 4g signal and the mod I was using supports 4g. So I tried updating to the latest wimax and then my phone started rebooting. After it boots android it reboots after a bout a minute or 2.
I FIXED it with a nandroid restore which had my 2.1-1 back up which I made during the idiot proof guide. So thinking that I can always use that backup as a restore I tried re-installing the radios because I don't see how they could not work on my phone and thought maybe I had a corrupt file, but voila my phone started rebooting again, but this time nandroid restore tells me to fix it via adb restore, BUT my usb isn't working either. So I'm stuck and have no idea on how to get this thing to load my restore. Any help would be appreciated.
I didn't read you're reply. But after installing RA, I think I'll be alright...
Here's the deal from start to finish...
download and install the android SDK
install all the necessary drivers
restart in recovery mode ( adb restart recovery or hold volume down when powering on the device)
use adb shell to access the shell while the device is in recovery
1) install RA recovery using adb method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026) This may or may not be okay with or without running unrevoked first... not sure if flash_image was placed on the device by unrevoked.
2) reboot into recovery
3) flush dalvik cache via RA recovery.
4) flush cache via RA recovery.
5) use adb push to copy a downloaded ROM zip to /sdcard/update.zip (using RA recovery to mount the /sdcard/ partition)
- I've downloaded http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7512117
6) Install update.zip from sdcard in RA recovery
- After booting into the new ROM one time, I allowed it to start and configured... then performed 3,4,5 against flashing a new kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
And that should be that. I'm currently downloading the ROM, so I don't know how it'll be.
Just got my fire rooted and recovery installed now my question is what rom should i run, i want to for sure have netflix working other than that not sure what else, are any of the CM9 builds actually working with the hardware acceleration or not yet? Open to all suggestions
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Just got my fire rooted and recovery installed now my question is what rom should i run, i want to for sure have netflix working other than that not sure what else, are any of the CM9 builds actually working with the hardware acceleration or not yet? Open to all suggestions
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HWA is not working with CM9 yet, I personally would suggest one of the CM7 roms for now since everything is working. Hopefully it won't be too long until everything is working properly with CM9.
What cm7 rom do you suggest? I havent used cm7 since the OG days
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What cm7 rom do you suggest? I havent used cm7 since the OG days
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Which recovery did you install, TWRP or CWM?
Thats what i was just coming here to ask i did TWRP but after reading thru some roms looks like i need to do CWM? if thats the case is the CWM on the first page of the development section the correct one?
aford89 said:
Thats what i was just coming here to ask i did TWRP but after reading thru some roms looks like i need to do CWM? if thats the case is the CWM on the first page of the development section the correct one?
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TWRP has pretty much been abandoned and CWM is now the preferred recovery. That is the right recovery but there is a script that can be used to install everything which can be found HERE. The CM7 rom that I would suggest using can be found in THIS thread and can be installed through CWM.
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TWRP has pretty much been abandoned and CWM is now the preferred recovery. That is the right recovery but there is a script that can be used to install everything which can be found HERE. The CM7 rom that I would suggest using can be found in THIS thread and can be installed through CWM.
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This CM7 build seems pretty complicated install after i installed CM9 reloaded. Just by the size of the post and number of commands.
Any way, which CM9 is you felt best among the available?
shareride said:
This CM7 build seems pretty complicated install after i installed CM9 reloaded. Just by the size of the post and number of commands.
Any way, which CM9 is you felt best among the available?
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Just scroll down past the commands, it's very simple to install and doesn't require any commands at all. I'm not installing any CM9 roms until hashcode gets his kernel done so that everything is complete and working properly. I use my kindle for gaming and videos so I need HWA working.
i noticed that script includes 3 different CWM, does it matter which ones we choose? theres red,blue and doomlords
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i noticed that script includes 3 different CWM, does it matter which ones we choose? theres red,blue and doomlords
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I know the blue one will not have time, battery, and kernel information showing in recovery and I'm not sure about the red one. I would just install doomlords just to be safe.
ok so i got CWM installed and flashed hellfire rom now my question is how is everyone controlling their volume? i started playing a song and didnt know how to turn the volume down
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ok so i got CWM installed and flashed hellfire rom now my question is how is everyone controlling their volume? i started playing a song and didnt know how to turn the volume down
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Volume Control, You can place a slider, that will auto-hide, to control the volume. He also has a nice brightness control app.
Thank you for all the help
I like the MoDaCo rooted stock ROMs. The current one is already on 6.3. If you don't like the stock launcher, you can always replace it. Because it's android 2.3, netflix will work just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916
i will have to check that out
+1 for MoDaCo Gr8. I've been running the 6.3 version since it dropped yesterday, with no problems. I use Go Launcher, themed to resemble ICS, and It's nice to be able to still access all of the stock kindle apps and bookshelf when I want to.
ok i got to know why does everyone run GO launcher and not ADW or LP?
TWRP
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Just scroll down past the commands, it's very simple to install and doesn't require any commands at all. I'm not installing any CM9 roms until hashcode gets his kernel done so that everything is complete and working properly. I use my kindle for gaming and videos so I need HWA working.
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"Thank you" for the explanation, and it completely make sense to me.
Also one other question, why did you say TWRP is outdated? in almost all the "ROM" forums and blogs everyone is suggesting TWRP 2.0.
Just curious know your opinion.
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"Thank you" for the explanation, and it completely make sense to me.
Also one other question, why did you say TWRP is outdated? in almost all the "ROM" forums and blogs everyone is suggesting TWRP 2.0.
Just curious know your opinion.
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TWRP has pretty much been abandoned by the dev and it seems like the other devs are starting to prefer CWM.
I'd suggest trying Reloaded ROM v1.1.
Hello XDA,
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S2
Android version: 4.0.4
Kernel version: 3.0.8
This is another rookie posting about roms. This is my issue; I have been trying for quiet a long time to install a custom room on my galaxy S2 from T-mobile. However, I haven’t been successful in my goals. Rooting the phone is quiet simple I encounter no problems with that part. When it comes to installing a custom rom is a failure. For starters I would like to install is CM9 stable Version. Right now I’m on square one; as I’m writing this post I’m also rooting my devices. If you guys could guide me through the installation and kernels necessary it would really make me a happy camper. Thanks.
Your post is full of contradictions from top to bottom and that it makes
me somewhat confused....
You say:
"I have been trying for quiet a long time to install a custom room"
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How long? Because here you say:
Rooting the phone is quiet simple I encounter no problems
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But one sentence down, you say:
as I’m writing this post I’m also rooting my devices
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Soooo....witch is it? Are you rooted for some time? Or you sre rooting
as you write this??
I'm not trying to be bashfull, but I don't understand what you want, because
if you managed to root your phone, then you also can read the instructions
on how to flash a ROM.
Every Dev. has in the 1-st post of each ROM how to do it step-by-step.
Furthermore, in the "General" section there is a sticky with the title:
|REF| Your One-Stop-Shop for rooting, roms, kernels, tools and themes!|UPDATED!
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Here is the link to that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319242
Happy reading!
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Luisjgalaxy said:
Hello XDA,
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S2
Android version: 4.0.4
Kernel version: 3.0.8
This is another rookie posting about roms. This is my issue; I have been trying for quiet a long time to install a custom room on my galaxy S2 from T-mobile. However, I haven’t been successful in my goals. Rooting the phone is quiet simple I encounter no problems with that part. When it comes to installing a custom rom is a failure. For starters I would like to install is CM9 stable Version. Right now I’m on square one; as I’m writing this post I’m also rooting my devices. If you guys could guide me through the installation and kernels necessary it would really make me a happy camper. Thanks.
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It seems that you are able to get your device rooted (which isnt too difficult to do when on 4.0.4 or 4.0.3 on a t989). Flashing roms are very easy. Simply download the zip file from the download section of the CyanogenMod website (MAKE 100% SURE ITS THE T989 aka HERCULES rom) otherwise you will 99% permanently brick your phone and cant fix it. Very simple method usually if you are running ClockworkMod Recovery. Full data wipe/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache. flash rom from sdcard (zip file) and then if the rom requires (flash the gapps for that rom). Like the guy above me said, you can find a ton of posts here that have tutorials on how to do it, or even a YouTube video.
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It seems that you are able to get your device rooted (which isnt too difficult to do when on 4.0.4 or 4.0.3 on a t989). Flashing roms are very easy. Simply download the zip file from the download section of the CyanogenMod website (MAKE 100% SURE ITS THE T989 aka HERCULES rom) otherwise you will 99% permanently brick your phone and cant fix it. Very simple method usually if you are running ClockworkMod Recovery. Full data wipe/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache. flash rom from sdcard (zip file) and then if the rom requires (flash the gapps for that rom). Like the guy above me said, you can find a ton of posts here that have tutorials on how to do it, or even a YouTube video.
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Thanks for the reply I'll try to look for post which could give me a meticulous guide on how to do it. One more thing, I already tried to install roms and i get an error (status 7).
Luisjgalaxy said:
Thanks for the reply I'll try to look for post which could give me a meticulous guide on how to do it. One more thing, I already tried to install roms and i get an error (status 7).
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That could be a lot of problems. There should be something on screen detailing what failed exactly.
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Hey guys,
First post here,
i was searching around for my problem, and i haven't found an accurate answer so thought to share my problem and hopefully find an answer.
i am from Canada, Edmonton, and i am with Rogers.
First problem,
i run CM 10.1 and Most the NIGHTLY updates they were butter smooth and works great, until Update number CM-10.120130317 till the current update. All the updates i download, my phone freezes LOT! example of how it freezes , i try to unlock my phone, it freezes . I try to write something it freezes . and sometimes when its on sleep it freezes i can't turn the screen on again! so i always downgrade to CM-10.120130316 to have that stable ROM.
I did the wipe date /factory reset from the ROM manager, and wipe cache and dalvik. and yet the problem is not solve.
So my question is, dose anyone facing the same problem? or it's just me?
Second Problem
am having this beyond annoying notification, where it says my message has not been sent! but my message get's sent and all acts normal. But i always get notification and its never gone. I have screen shoot the problem. Is there a way i can fix this? i've have attached in the thread.
if you guys have any questions or want me to provide some information please do ask.
Looking forward to hear the feedback.
Cheers,
for starts, you're running nightlies and you need to remember that. i'm not an advocate of these, but thats just my opinion. you generally cant run a non-perfected piece of software and repeatedly dirty flash layers of updates on top. you will generally begin to experience bugs that can only be fixed with a full wipe and clean install.
that being said, i would either 1) commit to these cm10.1 nightlies and perhaps even just stick with 1 of them thats working well for you or 2), find a stable 4.1 or 4.2 rom and install after a full wipe. backup first.
There's a warning that these builds are unstable and use them at your own risk. I use cm10.1 20130317 build and it is extremely stable. A few quirks but nothing major. I plan on sticking with it since the 3.4 kernel on the newer nightlies isn't optimized yet, which result is lower battery life.
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xBeerdroiDx said:
for starts, you're running nightlies and you need to remember that. i'm not an advocate of these, but thats just my opinion. you generally cant run a non-perfected piece of software and repeatedly dirty flash layers of updates on top. you will generally begin to experience bugs that can only be fixed with a full wipe and clean install.
that being said, i would either 1) commit to these cm10.1 nightlies and perhaps even just stick with 1 of them thats working well for you or 2), find a stable 4.1 or 4.2 rom and install after a full wipe. backup first.
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Domoo said:
There's a warning that these builds are unstable and use them at your own risk. I use cm10.1 20130317 build and it is extremely stable. A few quirks but nothing major. I plan on sticking with it since the 3.4 kernel on the newer nightlies isn't optimized yet, which result is lower battery life.
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Thank you guys for the time to post in my thread. Alright, i will stick with update that runs well in my cellphone..
However for my second problem, do you know how i can fix that problem? i am talking about the message not sent notification.
Thanks in advance!
xBeerdroiDx said:
that being said, i would either 1) commit to these cm10.1 nightlies and perhaps even just stick with 1 of them thats working well for you or 2), find a stable 4.1 or 4.2 rom and install after a full wipe. backup first.
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MH_91 said:
However for my second problem, do you know how i can fix that problem? i am talking about the message not sent notification.
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assuming you have a stable backup to rely on, i would wipe data/factory rest, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and reflash either your current update or (preferably) the one you were running with no problems before. perhaps flash the one listed by a user above that seems to be running well
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assuming you have a stable backup to rely on, i would wipe data/factory rest, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and reflash either your current update or (preferably) the one you were running with no problems before. perhaps flash the one listed by a user above that seems to be running well
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Yes, i am have backed up all my stuff. oddly, i did all that you have mentioned last weekend, and still i got those glitches and the text matter it was gone at the start, but i got it back again.
Noob question, what dose "Flash" exactly means? maybe i know what flash step is, but i didnt know it was called by that term lol..
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Yes, i am have backed up all my stuff. oddly, i did all that you have mentioned last weekend, and still i got those glitches and the text matter it was gone at the start, but i got it back again.
Noob question, what dose "Flash" exactly means? maybe i know what flash step is, but i didnt know it was called by that term lol..
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and you tried flashing a different (previous) version of cm10.1 when you did that? there's always a full wipe. that includes formatting /system in recovery.
flash = install.
xBeerdroiDx said:
and you tried flashing a different (previous) version of cm10.1 when you did that? there's always a full wipe. that includes formatting /system in recovery.
flash = install.
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Interesting.. i have got an idea i will try to do it hopefully by tonight or tomorrow. and i will share the results.
i was thinking to manually download the latest update nightlies instead of my phone update it for me, and then do the wipe thing and then i install it manually, maybe that will fix my problem.
am using G cloud for my backup and it dose his job pretty well. I wanted to use the Titanium backup but it kinda was too complicated for me.
Why they just don't call it "install" instead of Flash then lol?
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Interesting.. i have got an idea i will try to do it hopefully by tonight or tomorrow. and i will share the results.
i was thinking to manually download the latest update nightlies instead of my phone update it for me, and then do the wipe thing and then i install it manually, maybe that will fix my problem.
am using G cloud for my backup and it dose his job pretty well. I wanted to use the Titanium backup but it kinda was too complicated for me.
Why they just don't call it "install" instead of Flash then lol?
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avoid using the OTA update feature on your phone. i didnt know you were doing things that way. you'll notice many more bugs and problems that route.
you are on the right path when you say download the actual update (latest release) yourself. make sure you have the gapps to go with it. boot into cwm, wipe data/both cache, flash rom, flash gapps
xBeerdroiDx said:
avoid using the OTA update feature on your phone. i didnt know you were doing things that way. you'll notice many more bugs and problems that route.
you are on the right path when you say download the actual update (latest release) yourself. make sure you have the gapps to go with it. boot into cwm, wipe data/both cache, flash rom, flash gapps
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Will do mate! Thank you so much for your kind help! i really appreciated it. i will for sure share the results with you very soon.
Have a good one.
hi xda.
since i unlocked my bootloader i wanted to install cyanogen mod for sure.
did all step by step levels and it booted but no touchscreen, also tired unofficial and no hopes...
just posted this thread to know is there any solutions to make it work or not?
thanks
bigsmoke9250 said:
hi xda.
since i unlocked my bootloader i wanted to install cyanogen mod for sure.
did all step by step levels and it booted but no touchscreen, also tired unofficial and no hopes...
just posted this thread to know is there any solutions to make it work or not?
thanks
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and i dont have this problem on stock roms kk,lp 368,and latest one
anyone???
I've never had it happen, but I have heard of it. It must be either a build issue or a bad flash. Try again with a different build, and make a full wipe, (system, caches,and data). Or try the same build with a full wipe. I bet it will work.
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I've never had it happen, but I have heard of it. It must be either a build issue or a bad flash. Try again with a different build, and make a full wipe, (system, caches,and data). Or try the same build with a full wipe. I bet it will work.
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thanks for answering man,i did flashed again with wipes but still, meh ill return ti stock again