[Q] Anything good about 8.3 - 8.9" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When I got my kindle, it took me a whole week or so to make it remotely usable/intuitive. You know....
Get Google play, get all the apps to work, fix the super annoying soft key bar, etc. But I finally got it to match my expectations. Then came along 8.3. I lost my root, and some apps didn't work so well. I tried to re root, but then I got my kindle stuck at the "kindle fire" screen. I tried to fix it.....and ended up making a mistake and got it to red wipe. It felt like my only option was to send it back to Amazon and pray.
Eventually, I figured out how to get it back to stock 8.14 (donated to kffirstaid for saving my life), but I couldn't get 8.3 to work well with kffirstaid. Then, ironically right after I donated, the script stopped working for a few days (the wget couldn't access the drop box). After way too much work, my kindle was back to 8.14 with OTA "disabled" and even better than before! Hooray, I can finally relax for the weekend......
As I'm getting ready for school a few days later, I notice that I lost root along with many of the Google apps! I check the version..8.3
Zzzz....I finally had to learn how to install twrp, and now I'm using jellybean. OTA THIS...Amazon! (Hopefully I'm not tempting fate. Now I'm finally happy! The end.
Tldr:
Sorry for the rant, but is there anything beneficial about 8.3? I hear it reduces battery life as well. Amazon might be even worse than PayPal if you know what I mean. I thought Apple was the only firm left that ignores consumer rights. Am I overreacting, or is 8.3 really the worst update since ME...

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[Q] What am I missing?

Hello everyone,
I've been reading on this forum for awhile and just decided to register. I've got a few questions I am hoping someone can help me out with.
I needed a phone that wasn't locked to a carrier and I could use in multiple countries and I ended up purchasing a Nexus 5. So far, so good. I really like the phone. Liked it so much bought a Nexus 7 (2013) to replace my 5 year old iPad 1. I figured the tablet would be great like the phone and did a factory restore on the iPad and gave it to a friend of my daughter who's parent can't afford to buy such things.
I'm kinda regretting getting rid of that iPad. I'm having nothing but trouble with this tablet. The browser constantly crashes (even after clearing the cache), it constantly freezes and restarts. Apps randomly crash and I always get these little popups saying something has stopped. Too be honest, its driving me nuts.
I did the cache wipe multiple times now. It seems to help for a few hours and then it goes back to its old ways. I'm not having the screen issues some people are reporting so I'm glad for that. My tablet is stock and unrooted running Kit Kat 4.4.4.
My question is this, what am I missing here? Everyone keeps saying this is the best Android tablet, but I'm ready to throw this thing away. I just ordered an Asus Vivotab to try out windows on a tablet, but I still would like to get this Nexus working correctly. I love the size of it and really like having an OS that is not filled with a bunch of junk software.
I think I'm going to send it to Asus and see if they can fix it, but I won't be back in the States for another month and don't want to start that process until I'm home. I appreciate everyone letting me rant a little and I hope some of you all have some suggestions. Thanks again.
If it was bad or if the box you should have exchanged it.
The n7 really is a great device. Still my first advice. Never had any of the issues that you describe.
Edit: If you are unable to exchange it- i suggest running a stock ruu to restore the OS to original. If you still have issues after that it's definitely bad hardware.
--> Sent from my mind to your screen
Well, I had this thing shipped halfway around the world to me to begin with. An exchange would be a looooonngg process. Regardless, it wasn't giving me any trouble out of the box. Only started about a month ago.
I appreciate the response though. Aside from doing a factory restore, how do I go about reloading the software? I've done 4 restores from the tablet itself, doesn't fix anything. I don't see any reason to do it again, all it seems to do is waste my time.
I've got an internet connection, a laptop and a USB cable. If you could point me in the right direction I'll give it a go. I'm pretty handy with a windows PC, but don't know much about the inner workings of these mobile OS's.
Oh, and its starting something new now. Apps are randomly dissapearing from the tablet after random restarts. I lost my calendar today. Not just the icon, but the whole app.
It is totally strange behavior. N7 2013 is totally great device, probably there is some hardware issue like broken RAM or similar with your tab. Service sounds like a good solution.
tetakpatalked from Nexus 7 flo
OK everyone. Thanks. I'll get it mailed off as soon as I get back to the states. Hopefully it works out.

PSA: Buy a Fire Phone during the recent fire sale? Do NOT downgrade the OS!

Did you pick up an unlocked Fire Phone from the recent sale at Amazon? You probably got a device running Fire OS 3.6.8.
It may be tempting to flash back to an earlier software version to attempt root, but you should hold off for now. I, and a few others it seems, are now stuck with phones that can't really do much. Registering with Amazon doesn't work, phones get hot, and we have no access to apps. The worst part is that we don't have the 3.6.8 image yet, so there's no way to go back.
Until we get a way to go back to 3.6.8, you should refrain from downgrading.
Has anyone downgraded from 3.6.8 successfully?
If we can't downgrade from 3.6.8, what does that mean for root access? Are we stuck with stock Fire Phone OS?
Downgrading the unlocked 3.6.8 to the ATT 3.5.0 without first clearing data and cache causes bootloops. If the cache and data is cleared the phone boots up but you will have no icons and no internet connection. You will basically be in a unfunctional state and phone keeps getting warmer and warmer.
Flashing back to 3.5.2 will get the phone functioning as a phone
but the Amazon server will not register the device
Cannot locate 3.6.8 file on their server (see download list topic)
Wow this explains a lot. In my efforts to mess with the boot loader and work on the phone, I downgraded to 3.5 and now have this problem. Got it to 3.5.2 which gives me a few apps, but I can't register and its unusable. I hope they release something soon. Might hit up Amazon Support to see if I can get them to help.
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An update: I just got off the phone with a knowledgeable rep (took 2 tries). She said that they can't pull any information, manuals, or reference to a version higher than 3.5.2.
She did take the time to escalate my issue with a trouble ticket that will go to the advanced IT and devs, which should at least bring the problem to their attention.
She said I will get a response or update in the next 5 business days. Until then, I will just keep trying to reverse engineer the bootloader and see if I can make any edits to it to allow unlocking, or maybe an exploit.
Man....thank goodness I let reason prevail! I thought that after this massive dump, there would be all kinds of devs going wild. 3.6.8 on mine. Mainly got it because my Prime is up this month, and I wanted a backup phone in case I burn up my Note 4 from flashing. Gotta say, it's a solid piece of hardware, and Amazon put some pretty cool fun stuff to play with. Thanks a ton for the heads up!
Thanks for the heads up, pretty sure you saved a few flashaholics from a headache
Have a question:
Is German 3.6.2 (you can choose english as language in it) working without getting hot? (Modem Version is same as in 3.6.8: ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_06_05)
Version 3.6.8:
ro.build.lab126.project= ???? not available
ro.build.product=juniper
ro.product.name=juniper
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_06_05
Version 3.6.2 (German)
ro.build.lab126.project= ???? not available
ro.product.name=caraway
ro.build.product=caraway
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_06_05
Version 3.5.2 (AT&T)
ro.build.lab126.project=duke-1.1_release_lewis
ro.product.name=full_duke_kodiak
ro.build.product=duke
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_05_17
Version 3.5.1 AT&T
ro.build.lab126.project=duke-1.1_release_lewis
ro.product.name=full_duke_kodiak
ro.build.product=duke
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_05_17
Version 3.5 AT&T
ro.build.lab126.project=duke-1.0_release_lewis
ro.product.name=full_duke_kodiak
ro.build.product=duke
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_05_17
B1ackByte said:
Have a question:
Is German 3.6.2 (you can choose english as language in it) working without getting hot? (Modem Version is same as in 3.6.8: ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_06_05)
Version 3.6.8:
ro.build.lab126.project= ???? not available
ro.build.product=juniper
ro.product.name=juniper
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_06_05
Version 3.6.2 (German)
ro.build.lab126.project= ???? not available
ro.product.name=caraway
ro.build.product=caraway
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_06_05
Version 3.5.2 (AT&T)
ro.build.lab126.project=duke-1.1_release_lewis
ro.product.name=full_duke_kodiak
ro.build.product=duke
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_05_17
Version 3.5.1 AT&T
ro.build.lab126.project=duke-1.1_release_lewis
ro.product.name=full_duke_kodiak
ro.build.product=duke
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_05_17
Version 3.5 AT&T
ro.build.lab126.project=duke-1.0_release_lewis
ro.product.name=full_duke_kodiak
ro.build.product=duke
ro.build.version.lab126.modem=PB_02_05_17
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The 3.6.2 software worked fine for me ... only thing was no activation with the amazon servers (which basically makes the phone useless. No Market / No video's / No Mayday / No Music nothing related to Amazon works without the activation.
The Phone made calls and sent / received txt no problem.
Thanks for the heads up. Will hold off and side load a few .apks that are a must for my life style. New phone will be here in a few hours.
Pleasantly, I hounded Amazon for 2 days via every support channel (chat, phone, email), hoping i would run into the one overqualified, underpaid 1st tier support guy who can work off script. No luck. Basically at the end of all of this mess, i have to wait 2-5 business days for an engineer to "get back to me". Fookin awesome. 3.5.2 is completely useless without device registration, everything but email is pretty much tied to that. *Sigh*. I really hope someone manages to get the firmware. At this point, im simply waiting out the next few days only to surely be told to RMA the device. I just find it horrendous that a huge company like Amazon does NOT have procedures in place for a potential interrupted OTA, at least one that doesn't require shipping the device back. Shame on me for jumping the gun without verifying that the download to the latest firmware was ACTUALLY for my device (who knew the had another sku?). Shame on Amazon for sucking so bad at every stage of their "shoppers phone" rollout.
Sess said:
Pleasantly, I hounded Amazon for 2 days via every support channel (chat, phone, email), hoping i would run into the one overqualified, underpaid 1st tier support guy who can work off script. No luck. Basically at the end of all of this mess, i have to wait 2-5 business days for an engineer to "get back to me". Fookin awesome. 3.5.2 is completely useless without device registration, everything but email is pretty much tied to that. *Sigh*. I really hope someone manages to get the firmware. At this point, im simply waiting out the next few days only to surely be told to RMA the device. I just find it horrendous that a huge company like Amazon does NOT have procedures in place for a potential interrupted OTA, at least one that doesn't require shipping the device back. Shame on me for jumping the gun without verifying that the download to the latest firmware was ACTUALLY for my device (who knew the had another sku?). Shame on Amazon for sucking so bad at every stage of their "shoppers phone" rollout.
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I am in the exact same situation as you, waiting for Amazon to fix my phone, so I sympathize. Having said that, let's be fair and not blame amazon for this; they sold us a premium phone for 200 dollars, which I can attest worked very well out of the box. It didn't prompt me to update it or anything and with a few tweaks it was actually giving me a great battery life and performance, until I decided on my own to get adventurous and flash stuff on it. That is certainly not Amazon's fault. If we had used the phone as it was delivered none of this would have ever happened. So let's wait and see what they do to fix it. I am confident they will release the firmware or worst case they replace the phone with a new one.
najoor said:
I am in the exact same situation as you, waiting for Amazon to fix my phone, so I sympathize. Having said that, let's be fair and not blame amazon for this; they sold us a premium phone for 200 dollars, which I can attest worked very well out of the box. It didn't prompt me to update it or anything and with a few tweaks it was actually giving me a great battery life and performance, until I decided on my own to get adventurous and flash stuff on it. That is certainly not Amazon's fault. If we had used the phone as it was delivered none of this would have ever happened. So let's wait and see what they do to fix it. I am confident they will release the firmware or worst case they replace the phone with a new one.
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Then lets also be fair and take note of the fact that the phone is being sold for 200$ because it was grossly overpriced for what was offered. That still has not changed. Regardless, as a good corporate citizen its quite standard to provide tools to enable their users to restore the phone to standard working order. Had i not downgraded the phone i would not be in this mess. I acknowledge that. But i would also like to point out that had they provided something as simple as a release firmware bin file, i would not be in this mess either. Just gonna have to wait this out, but I will not be an amazon apologizer if they can't be bothered to give power users the basic tools to resolve their own issues.
If Amazon didn't lock down the Fire Phone so much, maybe people wouldn't be bothered to attempt to root it and change things Amazon clearly failed to do. Why can't I even change my launcher to Nova without issue? Amazon block wallpapers and widgets, so it's just a black screen with icons. If I wanted that, I would have stuck with iOS 3. The Fire Phone is locked down harder than iOS devices, which I never thought would happen. If they would loosen up to the grip, the phone would probably sell better. People want a phone they can make theirs, and that doesn't mean just what their Amazon portfolio looks like.
Worse yet, they still haven't forked over the latest update. I'm glad I bought two Fire Phones, because I can at least use one.
Now I see why no one wants this thing.
Just a side note re: registration:
I got my device several weeks ago and I think it was an earlier version than 3.6.8 - I downgraded to 3.5.0 per the instructions, rooted, all that works.
Now I just tried to register for the first time to get Prime, and found that I can't. So that doesn't seem specific to having come from the newest version, they must have disabled activation of all old ones?
Given that I'm in a working rooted state, I'm just going to leave it like this for now and hope that I can eventually flash forward without losing features that are unlocked like this, and finally claim that Prime service.
got tired of waiting on amazon, returned the phone, bought an iphone 6 plus. Will be using my shield tablet for all my android specific needs. @#$% amazon.
Side loading apks still works correct?
Yes
B1ackByte said:
Yes
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One more question if you don't mind, are you still able to create a wifi hotspot and tether with the phone?
Yes

why no updates available?

Just got my phone this morning. No sim, skipped registration (which confused me because I thought amazon would do that?) But the part that puzzles me is its running 3.6.8 and when I check for updates there are none available?
Nothing on my network should be preventing it. Actually won't get a chance to do stuff till later this afternoon so some help would be appreciated. Thanks.
***ok. So I see on Amazon they have what appears to be their version of ruu. So if all else fails, and I go this route...first of all--can I use this? And I'm not 100% on which one to get. I am an AT&T customer but not sure if this phone will be my daily driver. As stated, I don't have a sim right now. Does that matter? And would/should I use the unlocked gsm version?
Sorry to bombard with questions. Wasn't expecting this curveball right at the start and fire phone seems pretty foreign to me despite the fact my kindle is running cm12.1.
sashusmom said:
I just got off the phone with fire phone support and I was told it was a system wide outage and there are many people having this problem
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He had a problem with the account registration. Amazon goofed up a little, it seems. So maybe you're also a victim, OTA update wise...
And yes, Amazon messed up a number of times, shipping devices that were not pre-registered, so that's not a big surprise.
No SIM is ok, the phone is able to register and you can configure it without one. Maybe turn on 'flight mode' combined with WiFi as long as you don't use a SIM card.
DON'T worry about the update situation. You can try later again. Or go to "settings" ➜ "device" and then there should be a menu item like "install system updates".
Maybe the phone just needs some manual poking to get going. Downloading & installing OTA updates works without Amazon account registration.
You bought the phone from Amazon, so it has no netlock / can be unlocked, in this scenario it doesn't matter who your mobile provider is.
You should use the "GSM unlocked" version if all else fails. You could sideload the latest factory image ➜ click the 2nd link in my signature.
But I would suggest: patience, try it again and see if it starts loading updates...
Bingo Bronson said:
He had a problem with the account registration. Amazon goofed up a little, it seems. So maybe you're also a victim, OTA update wise...
And yes, Amazon messed up a number of times, shipping devices that were not pre-registered, so that's not a big surprise.
No SIM is ok, the phone is able to register and you can configure it without one. Maybe turn on 'flight mode' combined with WiFi as long as you don't use a SIM card.
DON'T worry about the update situation. You can try later again. Or go to "settings" ➜ "device" and then there should be a menu item like "install system updates".
Maybe the phone just needs some manual poking to get going. Downloading & installing OTA udates works without Amazon account registration.
You bought the phone from Amazon, so it has no netlock / can be unlocked, in this scenario it doesn't matter who your mobile provider is.
You should use the "GSM unlocked" version if all else fails. You could sideload the latest factory image ➜ click the 2nd link in my signature.
But I would suggest: patience, try it again and see if it starts loading upades...
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Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation! I actually just hung up with amazon and then read your reply. Yes it is a common issue. They took down my wifi mac address so I think i did need to contact them (or at least it might speed up the process.) Very good info about the manual update in the event that comes up in the future. I'll sit tight and wait for the fix. Thanks again!
Thanks Bingo. I did manually update the 4.6.1 (820) hoping that would nudge the registration. It didn't. I was registered with Amazon upon shipping at least in their system on the website, 12 months prime was added to my account upon shipping of the phone.
My bright idea was to de-register it on the website so I could register it on the phone. That didn't work either. Very frustrating. I am using a black wireless sim and it works fine for calls and data. Also my att sim worked ok too. That is in my 5s till the fire gets sorted out.
I did put on the market and it makes the phone usable to a point. That was pretty easy to do. My one reason to get this fire phone was the amazon connection. So stuff others don't want- I do. I have music and kindle books and paid amazon apps I would like to use.
I'll sit tight for anther day or so and let Amazon do their thing. I hope!
I could really like this phone if it all gets up and running. Fingers crossed.
@KLit75- they took my mac address too. Hope yours gets sorted out soon as well as mine. I read that this happened with their initial release of the phone.
My phone likes are eclectic- I have some $ invested in android market, Amazon, and apple! I like them all for what they offer in their differences.
@Bingo Bronson,
Thinking the "within 2 hours" was just wishful thinking on tech support's part. 4 hours and still waiting. I called to see if something got screwed up and they said it'll get resolved but no eta yet.
I'm now considering downloading 4.6.1 but here's what makes me hesitate...if for any reason I don't want cm11 after trying it (highly doubtful because this os is lousy imho) but if...what'd you think worse case scenario would be? Is there a flashable stock img to flash? Or is there an easier way to return to stock.
Plus I'm a little paranoid they might send the ota at the exact time I'm rooting. Thinking it wouldn't matter cuz it would see I'm using the same version they're sending 4.6.1 but I'm not totally certain. Probably nothing would happen. Guess I'm not in a risk taking mood right now. Anyways, given all the info I provided, are there any added precautions I should take if I decide to just manually install 4.6.1 and root?
KLit75 said:
@Bingo Bronson,
Thinking the "within 2 hours" was just wishful thinking on tech support's part. 4 hours and still waiting. I called to see if something got screwed up and they said it'll get resolved but no eta yet.
I'm now considering downloading 4.6.1 but here's what makes me hesitate...if for any reason I don't want cm11 after trying it (highly doubtful because this os is lousy imho) but if...what'd you think worse case scenario would be? Is there a flashable stock img to flash? Or is there an easier way to return to stock.
Plus I'm a little paranoid they might send the ota at the exact time I'm rooting. Thinking it wouldn't matter cuz it would see I'm using the same version they're sending 4.6.1 but I'm not totally certain. Probably nothing would happen. Guess I'm not in a risk taking mood right now. Anyways, given all the info I provided, are there any added precautions I should take if I decide to just manually install 4.6.1 and root?
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from what I saw, there is a safestrap image of fireOS 4.6.1 for multiple regions. so you can always go back to stock :]
Don't download 4.6.1 at this point, even if it takes 1 or 2 days until the issue is resolved.
IF your device was safestrapped and loaded with CM11 you could revert back to Fire OS with the flashable zips OR you could go "squeaky clean" with sideloading the factory image (see links in my sig for "how-to" guides).
Both methods are the "easiest" way back to stock, it takes a bit of work though...
OTA at the same time as rooting is nearly impossible since the main OS updates are big and take time to download AND even IF it's downloaded, you would still be in control to deny the installation of the update at this exact moment.
Precautions? Not really at this point, since your device is a "blank slate". Again, for manual installation of 4.6.1 look up the guide in my sig on how to use the Amazon stock recovery.
My phone magically registered itself to my amazon account OTA. So My Amazon stuff is now working. In reading this thread, I just got the sinking feeling safestrap is only for the old OS. Oh well..... Missed that bit of info.
I take that back!! Just read safestrap again. Wheww...
sashusmom said:
My phone magically registered itself to my amazon account OTA. So My Amazon stuff is now working. In reading this thread, I just got the sinking feeling safestrap is only for the old OS. Oh well..... Missed that bit of info.
I take that back!! Just read safestrap again. Wheww...
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Thats about the time I noticed my amazon content was on my phone, then i saw an update available. But after having some free time I now need to put off the rest for later on. Hopefully all goes well...
KLit75 said:
Thats about the time I noticed my amazon content was on my phone, then i saw an update available. But after having some free time I now need to put off the rest for later on. Hopefully all goes well...
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Glad to hear it I sideloaded the update and ran it that way but I am sure OTA will be just fine. Just make sure you have a full charge. Good luck:good:
sashusmom said:
Glad to hear it I sideloaded the update and ran it that way but I am sure OTA will be just fine. Just make sure you have a full charge. Good luck:good:
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Been running CM11 since about 2 hours after my last post in this thread (1 week) and its been an awesome experience. Definetly the best smart phone deal of all time! Glad I pulled the trigger quick when I saw it was on sale.

Do I keep it or switch it? Need advice

Just bought the G4 on 8/6. I'm going in to return it tomorrow. It gets terribly hot and the finding location icon is constantly flashing. I don't know if I should just swap it for a new G4 or get something else. I know there is a root method but I've heard of it working and causing issues for others. I saw a thread where the My Verizon app was asking for root access. I know you can just freeze it. It stinks that the phone is locked. I'm torn between this phone and the Nexus 6. What would you do?
I'd try finding out what's causing it to get hot; Probably some apps running in the background that don't need to.
Getting root isn't an issue as long as there is a compatible image. What you do with root access could cause issues.
You can disable some of the built-in apps with root (you can do it within FX Explorer + root addon). That should improve performance/increase battery life/reduce heat.
Try using the Cooler app from playstore.
Knowbody42 said:
I'd try finding out what's causing it to get hot; Probably some apps running in the background that don't need to.
Getting root isn't an issue as long as there is a compatible image. What you do with root access could cause issues.
You can disable some of the built-in apps with root (you can do it within FX Explorer + root addon)
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Well honestly, I don't mind that there is no recovery yet. I use root to backup with Titanium, use adblock, and freeze all the Verizon nonsense.
FreedomUser said:
Try using the Cooler app from playstore.
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Is this the app you're talking about? There's a few of them.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster
On a side note, I keep leaning towards the G4. I loved the G2. I'm on Verizon and would pick up the VS986. It comes with 10B I think and then it updates to 11A. If I decide to stay with the G4, should I try rooting before upgrading? I'm almost certain that out of the box, it needs a software update.
Fridge.
Sent from my A0001
sefirosu0522 said:
Is this the app you're talking about? There's a few of them.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster
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Yes that's the app i'm talking about, but you can use others too, they are same.
sefirosu0522 said:
On a side note, I keep leaning towards the G4. I loved the G2. I'm on Verizon and would pick up the VS986. It comes with 10B I think and then it updates to 11A. If I decide to stay with the G4, should I try rooting before upgrading? I'm almost certain that out of the box, it needs a software update.
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It will likely come with 610B, so there is definitely an update available.
The first root image released for Verizon was 611A. But I'm pretty sure someone has since released a rooted image for 610B, so you might not need to update.
But I could not get some features (Advanced Calling) working on 610B, until I updated to 611A. So it's possible you would want to update to 611A anyhow.
Honestly, id wait for the nexus and the note 5 coming out. The touch issues along with lg not wanting to unlock bootloader has made everyone frustrated.
I've bought the european version H81510C and the video are plagued with all major side-effects of the rolling shutter. Wobble, skew and warping effects, all around, literally a jello cam very similar to the after effect warp stabilizator, just lot's more unpolished. The top of the phone reach very high temperature by random or just by calling someone and if you launch an app in GL ES 2.0|3.0 ( OPEN GL ES 3.1 + AEP doesn't seems to correctly "work" on this device (missing support of most texture extension:lightmap and such) will try Arm64 build later and/or texture compression), you'll burn your palm. The G4 seems also to discharge or doing something unattended trough the Qi wireless charging antenna tho, cause I feel mine arms becoming insensitive ( physical harm ) after holding it for a while under normal usage (insulating the 2 pin on the backcover does help a little, but, still unpleasant to keep in hand). If I were are able to find the XT1250|XT1225 for less then 350 I would swap it immediatly, nonetheless I'm also debated to return it and wait till september for a replacement, anyhow the NEXUS is a better choice, except for the camera, even a new ZenFone2 updated to the last avaiable version along it's propretary APP is better of this 600 EURO data collector.
update:
By updating to lastest version (or by NOT keeping it in the hands), the overheating issue seems somewhat under control.
About the unpleasant feeling | electric field > magnetic constriction = discharge , I found out mine shell ( backcover + wireless charging antenna ) the white one ( simil-ceramic ) is made by acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS) "reinforced" with 10% of glass fiber.
About the LG G4 OPENGL ES 3.1 - it's very slow, it doesn't even make a third of a frame in one second ( other device reach 25-44 FPS ), will try in ASTC..and its better by not much.
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That's mine experience with LG and I call it night- refund under way, will check the PRO version if one avaiable this year.
The G4 is fine. If it is overheating then there is a rogue app or process killing it. My coworkers Samsung G 5 was chewing through batteries and Exchange services was taking up most of the resources. We default the Email app and setup it up and all is right now.
When I first got my G4 and set it up, initially it got hot as hell downloading apps and settings. I did a factory reset and it has been fine since. It never gets hot anymore. I use GPS and QC 2.0 fast charge while on the phone (I travel for work) and it is fine. The only time I had an issue with heat was when I left it out in the sun while streaming pandora.
I think the issue is something to do with setup. I noticed I had bought mine at a brick and mortar store and the sales guy quickly ran through the setup and skipped a bunch of stuff. I think something was stuck in the background trying to do something. Once I factory reset it and set it up properly, I never had a problem. My friend also ordered a G4 online and had it shipped and she never had a problem.
Just my thoughts.
player911 said:
The G4 is fine. If it is overheating then there is a rogue app or process killing it. My coworkers Samsung G 5 was chewing through batteries and Exchange services was taking up most of the resources. We default the Email app and setup it up and all is right now.
When I first got my G4 and set it up, initially it got hot as hell downloading apps and settings. I did a factory reset and it has been fine since. It never gets hot anymore. I use GPS and QC 2.0 fast charge while on the phone (I travel for work) and it is fine. The only time I had an issue with heat was when I left it out in the sun while streaming pandora.
I think the issue is something to do with setup. I noticed I had bought mine at a brick and mortar store and the sales guy quickly ran through the setup and skipped a bunch of stuff. I think something was stuck in the background trying to do something. Once I factory reset it and set it up properly, I never had a problem. My friend also ordered a G4 online and had it shipped and she never had a problem.
Just my thoughts.
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had same problem with mine ,first day it ran hot as hell but after first day, it has not got hotter than any other fone i have owned.
player911 said:
The G4 is fine. If it is overheating then there is a rogue app or process killing it. My coworkers Samsung G 5 was chewing through batteries and Exchange services was taking up most of the resources. We default the Email app and setup it up and all is right now.
When I first got my G4 and set it up, initially it got hot as hell downloading apps and settings. I did a factory reset and it has been fine since. It never gets hot anymore. I use GPS and QC 2.0 fast charge while on the phone (I travel for work) and it is fine. The only time I had an issue with heat was when I left it out in the sun while streaming pandora.
I think the issue is something to do with setup. I noticed I had bought mine at a brick and mortar store and the sales guy quickly ran through the setup and skipped a bunch of stuff. I think something was stuck in the background trying to do something. Once I factory reset it and set it up properly, I never had a problem. My friend also ordered a G4 online and had it shipped and she never had a problem.
Just my thoughts.
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Thanks for the input. I ended up getting a new phone becasue I was within the 14 days and it has been running fine.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
sefirosu0522 said:
Thanks for the input. I ended up getting a new phone becasue I was within the 14 days and it has been running fine.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
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Glad it worked out.

Scored Note 3 on garage sale for $50 what to do next ?

Phone was sold as is, it turned on but the battery was drained completely and died soon after reaching home screen. I took a plunge since price was $50 tempting Washingtons :laugh: I was 100% sure something is wrong with this device but **** it i did it. Bought a charger and USB cable on the way home and so far it's charging just fine.
Phone is mostly erased at least manually I think, because somebody left his google account as I can see email in the plays store menu and some apps, or maybe this is all the carrier pre-installed junk I'm looking at ? LOL
I don't have much experience with Samsung devices but it's a SM-N900T model with N900TUVUCNB4 4.4.2. from February 2014 according to this site http://www.galaxynote3update.com/galaxy-note-3-odin-factory-stock-firmware-usa-canada/
My question is do I stay on this Android or do I jump to Lolipop ? Wasn't there some memory issues with 5.0 ? Or maybe Custom builds ?
Your first move is to sell it to me for $5
If I was OP, I would fully charge the phone, do full factory reset and run it few days as is to test if everything works,. Once you start updating, especially custom ROM, things can break and you'll never know if it's software or hardware. If everything works fine, then you could decide for yourself what to do next. My biggest worry would be the phone is blacklisted, since Note 3 in good shape sells for $200-$300.
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
4xxxxL said:
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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If you're planning on keeping it, you'd be better spending the extra $ on one of these mate: http://www.amazon.com/Zerolemon-Zer...d=1453047493&sr=1-1&keywords=ZeroLemon+Note+3
I'm getting 6 days on a full charge outta mine, compared to 1 day with stock battery (course I'm running a custom rom, but when I was back on stock with my ZeroLemon, I was getting 3 days outta it)
4xxxxL said:
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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Actually you can root the phone easily, even without tripping knox on kitkat, once rooted you could freeze or kill on start up most apps that bother you, that's what I do and problem solved, phone runs like a dream.
pete4k said:
If I was OP, I would fully charge the phone, do full factory reset and run it few days as is to test if everything works,. Once you start updating, especially custom ROM, things can break and you'll never know if it's software or hardware. If everything works fine, then you could decide for yourself what to do next. My biggest worry would be the phone is blacklisted, since Note 3 in good shape sells for $200-$300.
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There is actually an easy way to not worry about the blacklisted issue before you ever buy a phone from someone. You can go to www.swappa.com/esn and check the status of the phone by entering it's IMEI. We buy and resell phones a lot and this is how we check them. You can check up to 10 phones free every 24 hours on the site.
4xxxxL said:
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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Sounds like you did get lucky and come across someone who wasn't tech savvy at all, and had no idea how simple it was to fix. But hey... that's their lose and your gain.
If you do decide to root it at some point and want to run a custom ROM, click on the top banner in my signature and check it out. I think you might just like it.
kevp75 said:
If you're planning on keeping it, you'd be better spending the extra $ on one of these mate: http://www.amazon.com/Zerolemon-Zer...d=1453047493&sr=1-1&keywords=ZeroLemon+Note+3
I'm getting 6 days on a full charge outta mine, compared to 1 day with stock battery (course I'm running a custom rom, but when I was back on stock with my ZeroLemon, I was getting 3 days outta it)
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Yeah man, there is an awesome custom ROM out for this phone. I can't remember the name right off hand, but I'm sure you've heard of it. Haha
pete4k said:
Actually you can root the phone easily, even without tripping knox on kitkat, once rooted you could freeze or kill on start up most apps that bother you, that's what I do and problem solved, phone runs like a dream.
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You can freeze them, but in my opinion if you've gone to the trouble of rooting it, you might as well completely remove the bloatware. If all you do is freeze the apps, they are still there needlessly taking up the internal storage. There are a few lists on here that tells what is safe to remove without fear of messing the phone up.
problem with deleting "bloatware" is two fold: some programs are interdependent and deleting one you don't want may break another you need. Also, I don't know about others, but I changed my mind in the past and reactivated some applications I never thought I'll be using before.
As far as space goes, the whole system uses 4 GB maybe, so you could save 1 GB, if you're aggressive deleting files, probably couple min of 4k video worth. I got 128 GB sd card, problem solved. Maybe different story with Note 5, but that's one of main reasons I never upgraded.
Either way I strongly suggest at least freezing apps and testing before deleting it.
TimboMachimbo said:
Your first move is to sell it to me for $5
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Lmao
Still been using the device to watch stuff on wifi @ home and **** Can't use it as my daily driver it's just to big :0 anyway the other hidden issue that I found out about it is that the charging port is kinda beaten up especially on the left side. Sometimes you can plug the cable in and it won't charge until you apply little pressure on the connectors left side it's time to do this http://www.amazon.com/Charging-Ribbon-Connector-Samsung-T-Mobile/dp/B00H3DZRXC/
Alliance Rom
4xxxxL said:
Phone was sold as is, it turned on but the battery was drained completely and died soon after reaching home screen. I took a plunge since price was $50 tempting Washingtons :laugh: I was 100% sure something is wrong with this device but **** it i did it. Bought a charger and USB cable on the way home and so far it's charging just fine.
Phone is mostly erased at least manually I think, because somebody left his google account as I can see email in the plays store menu and some apps, or maybe this is all the carrier pre-installed junk I'm looking at ? LOL
I don't have much experience with Samsung devices but it's a SM-N900T model with N900TUVUCNB4 4.4.2. from February 2014 according to this site http://www.galaxynote3update.com/galaxy-note-3-odin-factory-stock-firmware-usa-canada/
My question is do I stay on this Android or do I jump to Lolipop ? Wasn't there some memory issues with 5.0 ? Or maybe Custom builds ?
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Flash Alliance 5.0 Lollipop ...best rom for note 3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-alliancerom-n900t-uvufob6-v1-online-t3055309
Replaced the charging port with the $5 one I bought via Amazon... charging worked great but the voice recording and mic in general sounded garbled had to put the broken one back lol :S

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