bootloader ? Recovery? ROM's - Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

I figure to start asking this questions here now that I have the note 8 and I plan to keep it also have the note 2 and I love it but bigger screen is better sometimes
is the bootloader unlocked ?
is there any way to port a custom recovery like TWRP CWM?
is there any way to port note 2 rom's if the specs are the same and there is like a million of different rom's out ?
thanks in advance

My bad tried to edit the thread but I can't question thread doesn't belong here already learned sorry Mod if you like to move it ?

I can bring cwm, but i need the stock recovery.img and boot.img. IF you can provide that then, yey

emwno said:
I can bring cwm, but i need the stock recovery.img and boot.img. IF you can provide that then, yey
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Thanks and how can I extract that from the N8 ?

You will need to be rooted.
Do this first on a terminal application and send me the output
Code:
cat /proc/mounts

http://db.tt/8VhKi7KK
Link to requested mount points. Open with your fav text software.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk HD

I extracted the boot.img and recovery.img from the Note 8 GT-N5100-DBT-N5100XXBMD1 firmware. Below are the download links. Hope some dev knowledgeable with custom recoveries can make one for Note 8 users.
BOOT.IMG
RECOVERY.IMG
And for those interested in the modem:
MODEM.BIN

Can Anyone confirm that the 5100 has the same mounts & tables as the 5110?
The reason I ask is because I am compiling the recovery for the GT-N5110, which has identical tables as the Note 10.1 (GT-N8013).
I have a working recovery, only it has the rolling screen bug, which means the screen is rendering in portrait, while displaying in landscape & so the screen jumps up & down as you toggle thru the menus.
Here is the recovery.fstab for the US version N5110:
Code:
# mount point fstype device device2
/efs ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
/boot emmc /dev/block/mmcblk0p5
/recovery emmc /dev/block/mmcblk0p6
/cache ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p8
/system ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p9
/data ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 length=-16384
/preload ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p10
/sdcard vfat /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /dev/block/mmcblk1
BTW, for anyone who wants it, here is the .img for boot & recovery attached.

Speedy Gonzalez said:
I figure to start asking this questions here now that I have the note 8 and I plan to keep it also have the note 2 and I love it but bigger screen is better sometimes
is the bootloader unlocked ?
is there any way to port a custom recovery like TWRP CWM?
is there any way to port note 2 rom's if the specs are the same and there is like a million of different rom's out ?
thanks in advance
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seems that development might be pretty slow for this device.

Thats very likely, but having owned the Galaxy Tab 7 2 in the past, that doesn't shock me. I'm going to stay positive and look forward to the day I have this thing rocking a build of Paranoid Android.
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I upgraded from the Galaxy Tab 2 7" as well. Development will certainly be niche but it's hard to say definitively so early. Price point probably scared a lot of devs away.

fix-this! said:
seems that development might be pretty slow for this device.
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Yep seems that way and if is for the price I dont understand because people pay $650 for a note 2 with the same performance and less screen vs $400 for this amazing little tablet but again they got a taste of those $249 tablets thats why a lot of people is scared for the price
I hope a lot of devs get this machine because is really like a big note 2 with all the power and bigger screen that sometimes is better

Speedy Gonzalez said:
Yep seems that way and if is for the price I dont understand because people pay $650 for a note 2 with the same performance and less screen vs $400 for this amazing little tablet but again they got a taste of those $249 tablets thats why a lot of people is scared for the price
I hope a lot of devs get this machine because is really like a big note 2 with all the power and bigger screen that sometimes is better
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Other than i found root there is nothing for this device. I ended up taking it back. I think alot of devs are on the nexus 7.

The 8.0 has only been out one week. Give it some time. Once we get a recovery there will be some action. The 8.0 is being sold worldwide with the same hardware so I am confident we will see some action soon.
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rfb813 said:
The 8.0 has only been out one week. Give it some time. Once we get a recovery there will be some action. The 8.0 is being sold worldwide with the same hardware so I am confident we will see some action soon.
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FYI its been out overseas for many weeks now. I think once a price drop happens you will see more devs.

fix-this! said:
FYI its been out overseas for many weeks now. I think once a price drop happens you will see more devs.
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"Many weeks" is a bit of a stretch, no? The earliest I can find any reference to its availability is a UK launch date of April 5th. So as far as I can tell, it had a about a week jump on the US launch.

fix-this! said:
Other than i found root there is nothing for this device. I ended up taking it back. I think alot of devs are on the nexus 7.
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Well I am not taking mine back specially since i didn't pay full price and I love it I am sure we can even set up a donation to get a device to a good dev that's how most devs get devices no ? is not like they can afford every single device coming out

Listen, if you take it back, GREAT. I am glad you found something else you like. Whatever. But lets keep posts in threads relevant. If you want to ***** or complain, start a new thread for that purpose or start an IRC group.
For everyone else, those that aren't spoiled instant gratification types, just about ANY mod or development for the Note 10.1 will be an easy port. The tables, the processor, just about everything that matters, is identical, including the mmc block mount points.
I already have a working recovery, but there are a couple graphical errors. Once I get my new machine up & the build environment set up, it won't take long to get going,
I also have already talked to Chainfire, who will be adding support for Triangle Away in the next round of updates & device support additions. The device just launched a few days ago & the forum has been live for even less time, so either contribute, or quit complaining & just wait patiently to be spoon fed.

GSLEON3 said:
Listen, if you take it back, GREAT. I am glad you found something else you like. Whatever. But lets keep posts in threads relevant. If you want to ***** or complain, start a new thread for that purpose or start an IRC group.
For everyone else, those that aren't spoiled instant gratification types, just about ANY mod or development for the Note 10.1 will be an easy port. The tables, the processor, just about everything that matters, is identical, including the mmc block mount points.
I already have a working recovery, but there are a couple graphical errors. Once I get my new machine up & the build environment set up, it won't take long to get going,
I also have already talked to Chainfire, who will be adding support for Triangle Away in the next round of updates & device support additions. The device just launched a few days ago & the forum has been live for even less time, so either contribute, or quit complaining & just wait patiently to be spoon fed.
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Well said! +1

GSLEON3 said:
Can Anyone confirm that the 5100 has the same mounts & tables as the 5110?
The reason I ask is because I am compiling the recovery for the GT-N5110, which has identical tables as the Note 10.1 (GT-N8013).
I have a working recovery, only it has the rolling screen bug, which means the screen is rendering in portrait, while displaying in landscape & so the screen jumps up & down as you toggle thru the menus.
Here is the recovery.fstab for the US version N5110:
Code:
# mount point fstype device device2
/efs ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
/boot emmc /dev/block/mmcblk0p5
/recovery emmc /dev/block/mmcblk0p6
/cache ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p8
/system ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p9
/data ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 length=-16384
/preload ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p10
/sdcard vfat /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /dev/block/mmcblk1
BTW, for anyone who wants it, here is the .img for boot & recovery attached.
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In my experiences, they are mostly never the same. Building Cwm for the 5100.

Related

[Q's]Looking at getting one of these

Hey all, I've been informed by my carrier (Rogers Canada) that I'm eligible for a phone upgrade- and the Optimus G is one of the cheap options!! I have a few questions for the community before I'm totally sold...
1) How big are the /system and /data partitions? I'm on an old Optimus One and it's PAINFULLY low on storage.
2) Any word on NFC working in CM 10.1? I've done searches and whatnot but it seems to be quite the quandary right now. NFC is a pretty big draw for me and unfortunately I read that the hardware chip is different from the Nexus 4.
3) What is the latest root-able stock ROM? A lot of guides I see advise against going past 4.0.3, but I would like to run 4.1 (Google tells me an update was released in December) .
4) What are the odds of custom kernel/ROM support going forward? I have no idea what the community is like for this phone, and these boards look rather sparse. Hack-ability is a big (perhaps the biggest) feature for me too.
I really am leaning towards this phone- it's either the G or a Note 1, and it's a tad behind the times (dual core, 1 gig/ram). Though the Note 1 does have a really active hacking community.
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to reply. Cheers!
Keep everything stock, just root it and delete all the bloat ware.. works great.
1)On korean version sysyem is 2gb and data 25gb
sunami88 said:
Hey all, I've been informed by my carrier (Rogers Canada) that I'm eligible for a phone upgrade- and the Optimus G is one of the cheap options!! I have a few questions for the community before I'm totally sold...
1) How big are the /system and /data partitions? I'm on an old Optimus One and it's PAINFULLY low on storage.
no idea but it's a 32gb phone, there is probably no problem with it.
2) Any word on NFC working in CM 10.1? I've done searches and whatnot but it seems to be quite the quandary right now. NFC is a pretty big draw for me and unfortunately I read that the hardware chip is different from the Nexus 4.
no rom support NFC or hardware cap keys as of now
3) What is the latest root-able stock ROM? A lot of guides I see advise against going past 4.0.3, but I would like to run 4.1 (Google tells me an update was released in December) .
The latest Rogers is rootable (it's easier to root first and update later, keep root). Korean 4.1 update is rootable so I would guess Rogers 4.1 will also be rootable. We actually have a pretty good Can Dev community.
4) What are the odds of custom kernel/ROM support going forward? I have no idea what the community is like for this phone, and these boards look rather sparse. Hack-ability is a big (perhaps the biggest) feature for me too.
As of now there isn't much custom roms (you can see that yourself) But there is lots of potential.
I really am leaning towards this phone- it's either the G or a Note 1, and it's a tad behind the times (dual core, 1 gig/ram). Though the Note 1 does have a really active hacking community.
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to reply. Cheers!
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I also got a OG from Rogers and I might sell it and just use my N4. Storage is not an issue for me. More money in my pochet in the end and endless community support.
I would get a LGOG. The Note is really old and it's going to be two generations behind once new phones are launched in Q1 2013.
Wow, thanks for the replies! All that's left now is hope Rogers doesn't try and pull a fast one on me.
Update: The phone's on order! Can't wait to play around with my new device.
Densitymax said:
Keep everything stock, just root it and delete all the bloat ware.. works great.
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I tend to agree. I was planning on flashing some ROMs, but after playing around with the phone for a few days, I must say I actually like LG 's Android skin. Not as heavily skinned/modded as Sense, but enough tweaks to add to the stock experience rather than detract from it.
In my opinion anyway.
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sunami88 said:
Update: The phone's on order! Can't wait to play around with my new device.
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Once you get it, root it, unlock it and throw the jelly bean Rom on it.. I loved my phone before but I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is better now.. more responsive, some nice built in features and better battery life..
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I'll probably stick with the stock ROM for a while. It'll be nice when some replacement kernel's start turning up. I use CIFS a lot on my current phone, and I would like to have OTG. Hmm, I might be able to insert the relevant modules once I have root...
Hell, if it ever gets Android 5 officially I might not have to flash a third party ROM at all .

Speculative Q: will a total conversion option M919 -> 9505G be figured out?

I hope that the speculative nature of this question does not irk anyone. I do not expect a definitive answer nor am I under the illusion I am entitled to anything from the dev community.
That said, I am in the position of buying either an M919 or 9505G. I only want to buy the former if I feel relatively confident that a total conversion to GPe will become available someday. (I don't want to buy the latter because I dislike the white only color option. )
Also please notice that my speculative question is IF, not WHEN. I don't mind waiting, even months, as long as I suspect it will be possible eventually. If you happen to have a strong speculative opinion one way or another if this will even happen (i.e. based on similar previous experiences with other phones), please feel free to post it. From every other phone I've ever had, the roadblocks currently preventing the total conversion seem somewhat unique, and I wonder if they are surmountable by our community or not. Hopefully some time in the near future I can contribute directly to such problems myself, but need to start learning a few basics first.
Thanks!
Million dollar question right now.
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I have a M919 but would to see it converted over as well. It is my understanding that the hardware is identical for both devices. I think eventually we will see a total conversion but it will take a while.
A TMobile employee at one of their stores told me they will be going away from black on the S4 just like they did on the S3 so don't wait too long. I was told that since most people use cases that hide the phone color anyway it didn't matter.
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we can't, not right now, the problem is the partitioning. we cant resize the partitions on the M919, well atleast Not yet. until then, there will be no 100% conversion. There is a group of devs working on it already, the problem they are having is with the PIT files.
as mentioned, the answer to the question isn't clear.
the only difference between an i9505g and an m919 flashed with a GPE rom is that the former will have more internal storage, and it will get OTA updates. realistically, neither points are significant - the difference in storage is a couple gigs, and OTA updates aren't frequent at all. if the release of android 4.3 is any indicator, it looks like GPE roms will actually be getting updates just as fast/faster than a true i9505g. imo, if you want a black GPE S4, you should just pick up an m919 and flash a GPE rom
however, if you want a true i9505g in black, there are other ways to get it. black oem replacement glass can be found online for around $20, and replacement back covers can be found for around $10. replacing the front glass isn't exactly a stress free procedure though...
SephXII said:
we can't, not right now, the problem is the partitioning. we cant resize the partitions on the M919, well atleast Not yet. until then, there will be no 100% conversion. There is a group of devs working on it already, the problem they are having is with the PIT files.
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Could You please P.M Me about where you get this info from, I'd like to know more about the partitioning thingy because this storage problem is killing me.
For OP. Just get the international Model, the m919 T-Mobile Variant is the most expensive of all carriers and if there is something I hate T-Mobile for, it's the lack of urgency when it comes to updating their dam Phones, besides the heavy prices they stamp on them.
BlackGURU said:
Could You please P.M Me about where you get this info from, I'd like to know more about the partitioning thingy because this storage problem is killing me.
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Right here; it's in the developer's only section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359436
If you are having problems with storage, try foldermount from the app store, it will allow you to move your apps to the external sd card.
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good to see it
i hope so..

Thinking about buying, need some advice...

I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
The boot loader is locked. However, there is a work around called "Loki", hence the roms, which btw run great on the G Pro.
But I'd advise you to wait for the N5 due to it having a fully unlocked boot loader , more accessories and more support by both Google and XDA.
I will buy one for sure.
donalgodon said:
I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
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OG Pro is simple to root, both cwm and twrp recoveries are easily available and working, and there is an official CM 10.2 available which is a nightly, so daily updates
So if these are your only considerations, you can buy the OG Pro with your eyes closed.
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vivebatu said:
OG Pro is simple to root, both cwm and twrp recoveries are easily available and working, and there is an official CM 10.2 available which is a nightly, so daily updates
So if these are your only considerations, you can buy the OG Pro with your eyes closed.
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My only concern is that I don't know if the 980H is the same as the 980.
The 980H is the Panama version, the ROM from which is a popular flash option for this model in a Stock ROM. I'm actually in Panama, and this is where I'll purchase.
What about the root, recovery options? Should I use the one's for the 980? I don't see any for the H variant.
donalgodon said:
I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
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OG Pro is a GREAT Device in its own way. If you need Removable battery, Micro SD slot then this device is suitable.
N5 has is pros and cons. U get latest S800 processor, direct updates from google, but only 16 or 32GB storage and non removable 2300 mah of N5 is no near to 3140mah of OGP. And LG will MOSTLY update OGP to 4.4 Kitkat by end of this year.
It is easy to flash custom roms on this device, well easier than HTC phones and there is going to be lot of development in future for this device. This device also have OFFICIAL support from Cyanogen mod team.(Correct me if i'm wrong).
For me OGP is better option than most of the other phones out there right now.
StarkV5 said:
OG Pro is a GREAT Device in its own way. If you need Removable battery, Micro SD slot then this device is suitable.
N5 has is pros and cons. U get latest S800 processor, direct updates from google, but only 16 or 32GB storage and non removable 2300 mah of N5 is no near to 3140mah of OGP. And LG will MOSTLY update OGP to 4.4 Kitkat by end of this year.
It is easy to flash custom roms on this device, well easier than HTC phones and there is going to be lot of development in future for this device. This device also have OFFICIAL support from Cyanogen mod team.(Correct me if i'm wrong).
For me OGP is better option than most of the other phones out there right now.
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Don't you think that LG will eventually patch the bootloader exploit and end the party?
That's what bothers me about it, because Samdung did basically the same thing recently with Knox.
donalgodon said:
Don't you think that LG will eventually patch the bootloader exploit and end the party?
That's what bothers me about it, because Samdung did basically the same thing recently with Knox.
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with custom roms we don't need official OTA updates anymore plus they're slow with the updates anyway
solaris2k said:
with custom roms we don't need official OTA updates anymore plus they're slow with the updates anyway
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Just as long as those features aren't tied to the bootloader, then there's no problem, but if the case of Samdung's Knox bootloaders have illustrated anything, it's that this is always an option.
Without the Knox bootloader, 4.3 update broke Wi-Fi, Sound, etc. It's what pushed me to sell the S4 and be done with Samdung once and for all.
donalgodon said:
Just as long as those features aren't tied to the bootloader, then there's no problem, but if the case of Samdung's Knox bootloaders have illustrated anything, it's that this is always an option.
Without the Knox bootloader, 4.3 update broke Wi-Fi, Sound, etc. It's what pushed me to sell the S4 and be done with Samdung once and for all.
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Well Samdung are floating in the sky because of lots of sales and huge profit (about $10 billion i guess!!) so they don't care about the developer community and moving against it like Apple. Samdung is not apple but they don't understand it. they want to provide security on their devices like Apple does. Thats what they are trying with something called Knox bootloaders. This is one of the reason that kept me away from getting a Note 3. LG has long way to go before they become like Samdung. So i wouldn't worry about it for atleast 2 years! LOL
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Well Samdung are floating in the sky because of lots of sales and huge profit (about $10 billion i guess!!) so they don't care about the developer community and moving against it like Apple. Samdung is not apple but they don't understand it. they want to provide security on their devices like Apple does. Thats what they are trying with something called Knox bootloaders. This is one of the reason that kept me away from getting a Note 3. LG has long way to go before they become like Samdung. So i wouldn't worry about it for atleast 2 years! LOL
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Well, their protection scheme is similar. I forgot what they call it, but it's all the same sort of sham. It releases the corporation from liability for warranty service, regardless of what the issue is, if the "protection" flag is tripped.
I find myself dreaming often about what it would be like if a company (like LG, which is smaller than the competition) threw everything they had behind the Open Source and Development community and just made their devices with folks like us XDA members in mind! How many millions of us are there now? We probably buy more gadgets as a group than any other segment of the global population as a whole, yet we are basically ignored and treated like criminals.
donalgodon said:
I find myself dreaming often about what it would be like if a company (like LG, which is smaller than the competition) threw everything they had behind the Open Source and Development community and just made their devices with folks like us XDA members in mind! How many millions of us are there now? We probably buy more gadgets as a group than any other segment of the global population as a whole, yet we are basically ignored and treated like criminals.
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True!!! But the companies always think about the mass market first who are non-tech people who just buy and use the phone as it is..
The issue is warranty! when the phone is being used for development there is always risk of hard brick unless u know what you are doing with the phone. They don't want people messing their devices themselves and claim warranty for it. That is why the bootloaders are locked and flagged if unlocked for development purposes.
Which device did u decide to buy anyway??
StarkV5 said:
True!!! But the companies always think about the mass market first who are non-tech people who just buy and use the phone as it is..
The issue is warranty! when the phone is being used for development there is always risk of hard brick unless u know what you are doing with the phone. They don't want people messing their devices themselves and claim warranty for it. That is why the bootloaders are locked and flagged if unlocked for development purposes.
Which device did u decide to buy anyway??
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Yeah, that's the reality, but I think there's a situation where companies can say, "Look, here's literally everything you need. All the documentation, sources, drivers, binaries... everything. You can play with your device all you want, but you assume that responsibility if something goes wrong." Then, they ought to make the flashing and modding tools part of the package. Make them robust, and invest in safe flashing systems. Fewer issues as a result.
I don't think it's fair that companies should be made to pay for stupidity, and I accept it as a cost of doing what we all love to do. This is what I thought the "Google Edition" devices were going to be all about, but even there, we still face a situation where so many things aren't provided properly.
I am hunting down a E980. To me, it represents the best value for the money right now. My plan is to use the Loki bootloader exploit, slap CM 10.2 on it and never look back. In fairness, LG's UI is a bit too colorful for my tastes, but it isn't anywhere near as hideous as Samdung's Touchwiz circus clowns on acid abomination.
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I am hunting down a E980.
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Nice! :good:
I'm sure you will have great time with the device.
donalgodon said:
My only concern is that I don't know if the 980H is the same as the 980.
The 980H is the Panama version, the ROM from which is a popular flash option for this model in a Stock ROM. I'm actually in Panama, and this is where I'll purchase.
What about the root, recovery options? Should I use the one's for the 980? I don't see any for the H variant.
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[Q] help Root SCH-i535PP on 4.4.2

Ive been searching night and day trying to find a way to root my galaxy S3 (SCH-i535) running 4.4.2 . Ive come up empty handed and as may know TOWEL ROOT DOES NOT WORK ON THIS BUILD. The most progress I have made is unlocking developer options with 7-tap doctrine. (haha) So this is pretty much a "calling all car" for those out there who are well versed in the art of rooting and all things $ sudo.
Info on safely reverting to an android OS that is rootable would also be useful.
l or any knowledge about the SCH-I535PP on 4.4.3 (pre paid verizon Galaxy S3) and exploits discovers .
Im lightly knowledgeable in Terminal, soooooo. If any one knows some work arounds or anything that would at least make me smile please feel free to write.
Tell me me what you all know and restore my faith in the power of the internet community.
much love,
-Lifehertz
ive also been looking
ive also been looking to root my phone also. all ive been able to dig up is possible roms that might be flashable with this model. and help would be greatly appreciated!
I knew I wasnt alone.
For some reason i have faith that someone is working on getting this phone rootable.
Until then lets keep the conversation going.
Do you have any links to these rims. Also, what are your thoughts?
I want root too because this phone is not compatible with samsung gear apps for my neo...very heartbreaking. ..wanted to put more apps on my watch but can't because this verizon galaxy s3 prepaid is not updated like all the other ones.....
Hey guys, I'm just posting to join in the misery. I feel like a hero for getting past the activation setup wizard! I have spent many hours researching how to root this stupid phone, and at this point its my white whale. There will be a way eventually, and this thread can be our anchor when that day comes. If anyone has a problem with the setup wizard, let me know.
The white whale under my friend.
Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
Because if it has been a short amount of time then the true developers and root wizards
Probably haven't had much need or want to work on a root for this phone.
I am noticing though after walmart dropped the price of the phone severely
And christmas came around. There are a Lot of new SCH-I535PP users. So maybe if we keep asking around and raising awareness about this build needing root, then a root genie will hear the cries of the community and get to work granting us our wish.
Verizon really locked this up with the recent update. This phone is two years old and there are many stronger phones coming out the root gods are focusing on blessing. But, its not hard to see that the SCH-I535PP is fantastic tool for its price point.
Please, anyone who reads this and is well versed in rooting phones, please do the SCH-I535PP community a solid and help us step out from being the prison bars of 4.4.2.
Thank you for letting me ramble. I hope it helped keep the spirit alive. Haha
Disclaimer: I'm an android noob, and everything in this post could be wrong. I'm just trying.
lifehertz said:
Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
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I know that version of kitkat was released on June 2nd, 2014, if that helps.
I don't understand whether ALL sch-i535 after that date are blocked from rooting, or ONLY the sch-i535pp (prepaid) version. I've read conflicting things because the circumstances change over time, but the threads on forums stay the same. What was true 5 months ago might not be true anymore.
I believe (could be wrong) that every single phone that was updated after June 2nd is completely SOL and blocked from being rooted. I think Towelroot was the last thing that worked for anybody, and even that method is lost to ANYTHING with a Kernel date of June 3rd or later. Mine is July 22nd. I believe the truth is that the vast majority of people that are rooted are just not updating to KitKat because they know it will un-root them and the party is over. I think that anyone with a phone that is old but updated to kitkat can reset to factory and get back to JellyBean or whatever version they originally had that can be rooted. So that leaves a small, but growing population that just simply can't root because we have the newest galaxy S3s with late kernel dates off the shelf . It's just getting harder and harder to find exploits. They guy who wrote towelroot works for google now, finding/fixing exploits that he once used to hack phones.
Either the population will catch up with us 'un-rootables' or they will leave us behind as bigger and better things come along. The Galaxy S3 is (kind of) yesterday's problem. I'm just sayin.....
I truly hate to be the burden of bad news but I can't say I'm surprised by verizon finally locking down the S3. The contract version was rumored to have been locked down with a version past the last official OTA of 4.4.2 but it seems that the pp version was moved to 4.4.3 which in all seriousness was then locked down by big red
Going forward I'd stay away from verizon as far as phones go, the short version of this is the fact that they will try anything possible to lock down every android phone they can
My S3 running BlissStalk
Damn it. The mutiny. The injustice!
Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?
lifehertz said:
Any suggestions?
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Don't bother with the Aquos Crystal. It's such a great phone for the price, but it hasn't been rooted yet. I have one, and I enjoy it for the stock.
lifehertz said:
Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?
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Sadly I don't off hand no, I moved over to straight talk and thankfully can get almost any phone I'd like. I'm currently debating on a Nexus 5
My S3 running BlissStalk
I Have An Idea!!!!!!!!
How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.
sezamer66 said:
How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.
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If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
Sent from my Nexus 5
ShapesBlue said:
If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
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I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
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On the S3 I've been around here and seen many people do just that. While it may be an option on other devices even the VZW S5 it will not work on the S3
Sent from my Nexus 5
I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol
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I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol
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While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
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ShapesBlue said:
While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
Sent from my Nexus 5
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And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.
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And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.
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I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
Sent from my Optipop N5
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I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
Sent from my Optipop N5
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I want to root this phone too. The kingroot 4.1 do not work phone just reboot.

[ZEN-KERNEL] On find7 and other Linux 3.4-based devices

Hi,
I'm from http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...3-10-zen1-dollar-drink-night-bfs-msm-t3062814 and also on the nexus 9
It's cool to see somebody has noticed -zen kernel in a far off community such as the find 7.
Somebody noticed I mentioned I'd support -zen on a few flagships in addition to the nexus devices.
I explained the hurdle of having 3rd party testing for such a daunting task. My BFS work on android/3.10 has yielded nothing but positive feedback on the N6 and the 64-bit N9.
However, somebody here reached out to me and said "hey support us, we are active but we don't have enough developers here"
I would happily do this but I have observed the find 7 is using a 3.4 kernel. In order to do the work with BFS I will likely have to reboot and flash to it dozens of times per hour, pull logs constantly, test all situations for kernel errors, etc.
Before you say "oh he just wants us to buy him a new phone sick son of a b*&$&$&$"
No not at all, what I need to bring Zen to the find7 (and likely other devices like the N5 and N7 - who I have maintainers for a future BFS patch already in place, they just need the patches) is anybody who is willing to volunteer any 3.4 Linux kernel running android device, with an unlocked bootloader
It can be broken, damaged, hold no charge as long as the screen is mostly legible and runs 3.4, unlocked bootloader, etc. I will probably need no more than 1-2 weeks with it, so if anybody volunteered I will happily send it back to them as soon as I'm done with it.
Somebody here asked me, I told them I can't possibly do it on 2nd hand testing (not that itnisnt greatly appreciated) but for a task like this it isn't ideal. if I get 1 hour to work it's much faster to just do itnall myself and flash maybe dozens of times versus sending test builds and waiting for reply and secondary logs, etc.
Thanks,
B
My endeavor to bring it to the nexus 9, which I do not own was successful but finding testers for that thing was basically impossible. Little interest and little users overall (I almost backed out but since I finished the patch for tegra I released it blindly and it works well)
Someone give this man some help! I want a custom kernel for my Find 7a.
Have you tried the oppo forums? I'd let you use mine if you're in the Chicago/north west Indiana area
wergrun said:
Have you tried the oppo forums? I'd let you use mine if you're in the Chicago/north west Indiana area
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If he is not living there, would you send it if I would pay for the parcel (both ways)?
Just want to make this happen so badly but this is all I can do as I dont have a device on me I could send ):
znarf2369 said:
If he is not living there, would you send it if I would pay for the parcel (both ways)?
Just want to make this happen so badly but this is all I can do as I dont have a device on me I could send ):
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I might but I'll need a backup device. Closest is an old beat up iPhone 3gs who's apps don't even work!
I'll try to find something cheap with an sdcard or rough it out for two weeks
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I might but I'll need a backup device. Closest is an old beat up iPhone 3gs who's apps don't even work!
I'll try to find something cheap with an sdcard or rough it out for two weeks
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alright just let me know (;
Just to ask quickly, which ROMs would u support with ur kernel? I have tried CM12 and I am now on NamelessROM which I am loving.
I know some kernel DEVs only like to work for one ROM, or only for the stock OS of the device.
Thank u for wanting to work on our device, it seems like all the DEVs went for the OnePlus One, and everyone forgot about the blatantly better Oppo (lolz)
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I might but I'll need a backup device. Closest is an old beat up iPhone 3gs who's apps don't even work!
I'll try to find something cheap with an sdcard or rough it out for two weeks
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found anything so far?
the problem is I really would like to help but my device I could send is in germany (relatively high costs for shipping to usa and back to germany, about 130 $) and I am located in New Zealand right now so even if I would I cant because I dont have any access to the phone..
i would love to test it for you!

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