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OK I really want the Nexus but I'm not due for an upgrade. You're all smart, help!

Like the title says, I'm not due for an upgrade until next December but I'd really like to dump my current phone for a Nexus... it's just dog-slow, has no support from any Dev communities nor support from Samsung themselves...
With that said I'm wondering if anyone has found a way around having to pay the full $800 to get a new Nexus device. I went in to Best Buy today to see if I could extend my contract by another 2 years but he said the best I could do is to start a Family Plan, move my number to that and add a new line so I'd be paying $130 a month. I don't think so.
It's important that I keep my current plan too since I have unlimited data.
If anyone knows any little life-hacks to getting a new Nexus at $300 or less, let me know!
Oh, I'm on Verizon. So, LTE please!

What phone do you have right now?
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U could always add a line. Get a hold of an old verizon flip phone that doesn't require data and put the new line on that. This way you always get revolving upgrades too
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Getting an extra is not a bad plan, but the cost adds up eventually. And correct me if I'm wrong, but verizon is not doing the traditional new every two years updates anymore. I think your best plan is to wait until the year and a half marker (I know I get some discount at that point) or buy a phone full retail.
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chbennett said:
Getting an extra is not a bad plan, but the cost adds up eventually. And correct me if I'm wrong, but verizon is not doing the traditional new every two years updates anymore. I think your best plan is to wait until the year and a half marker (I know I get some discount at that point) or buy a phone full retail.
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It's, what, $10 to add a line a month, dummyphone of course. $240 +
$300 = $540 still $110 below retail.

Smokeey said:
It's, what, $10 to add a line a month, dummyphone of course. $240 +
$300 = $540 still $110 below retail.
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Done know where the 240 came from. I added a line and out the door I paid 300+ CA tax
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justin94 said:
Done know where the 240 came from. I added a line and out the door I paid 300+ CA tax
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Nm. Just realized you probably did 10x 12 for a 2 year contract. Yea, that's the thought process I had too. It'll basically be like getting a loan for the phone, without interest
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Retail is $650, not $800.
Frankly dude, take it from someone that HATES contracts and doesn't do them, just save up some cash.
What's the ETF on your current device now? Sounds like it might be cheaper to pay the ETF on your current line, and sign a contract for a new line and get the phone for $299.

The problem with getting another line is I'm currently on an individual plan paying about $80 a month.
Moving to a plan that I could add a line would put me at $130 a month... definitely not worth it when I'm already ready to fork over $300 for a phone.
I'm thinking best bet is getting lucky on eBay or Craigslist

chbennett said:
And correct me if I'm wrong, but verizon is not doing the traditional new every two years updates anymore. I think your best plan is to wait until the year and a half marker (I know I get some discount at that point) or buy a phone full retail.
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I think you can upgrade at the 20 month mark now actually. I know a buddy of mine that is a long time VZW customer is eligible for full upgrades @ 18 months.

KWKSLVR said:
Retail is $650, not $800.
Frankly dude, take it from someone that HATES contracts and doesn't do them, just save up some cash.
What's the ETF on your current device now? Sounds like it might be cheaper to pay the ETF on your current line, and sign a contract for a new line and get the phone for $299.
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Verizon's site says "You may terminate service for any reason within 14 days of activation. If you purchased a wireless device at a promotional price at the time of activation, you must return it within the device return period to avoid being assessed an Early Termination Fee of $175, or $350 if you purchased an Advanced Device" so I'm assuming $350 to terminate.
Not only that but by making a new contract I'd lose my unlimited data, and I use a TON of data.

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Verizon's site says "You may terminate service for any reason within 14 days of activation. If you purchased a wireless device at a promotional price at the time of activation, you must return it within the device return period to avoid being assessed an Early Termination Fee of $175, or $350 if you purchased an Advanced Device" so I'm assuming $350 to terminate.
Not only that but by making a new contract I'd lose my unlimited data, and I use a TON of data.
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If you get a new line from say amazon... You can just cancel the line within 14 days and keep the phone. Amazon will charge you 250 eventually for it though.
I just did it.
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Go Prepaid on TMO if you want phones more often.

blestsol said:
If you get a new line from say amazon... You can just cancel the line within 14 days and keep the phone. Amazon will charge you 250 eventually for it though.
I just did it.
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Lol. And you did not read the fine print. It amazes me what people will or wont do to pay retail for a phone. And that is why american cellular service and prices are what they are.
Crazy world, ay?

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blestsol said:
If you get a new line from say amazon... You can just cancel the line within 14 days and keep the phone. Amazon will charge you 250 eventually for it though.
I just did it.
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LOL like the other person said, you better go back and read the fine print. That $250 is a seperate Amazon fee in addition to Verizon's ETF. Basically you just screwed yourself $350 Verizon Fee + $250 Amazon Fee = $600.

blestsol said:
If you get a new line from say amazon... You can just cancel the line within 14 days and keep the phone. Amazon will charge you 250 eventually for it though.
I just did it.
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So you paid for $600 no tax for your Rezound and are not on contract? That's not too bad. Saved $50 plus tax over getting it from Verizon.

They may hook you up with an early upgrade. I went in ready to pay full retail as my contract was not up until November of next year. The guy asked me why I didn't want to upgrade, not sure why I was able to upgrade but I did.
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If you have unlimited data, don't do an ETF since they don't offer unlimited any more. I'm heading out to BB-they told me if i pay full retail I have 30 day return policy. I'll sell my TBolt by that time, and cover the balance with my Xmas bonus.

Buddy Revell said:
So you paid for $600 no tax for your Rezound and are not on contract? That's not too bad. Saved $50 plus tax over getting it from Verizon.
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Nah I paid 150 for it on contract and canceled the trial then payed amazon their 250 cancel fee to keep it.
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blestsol said:
Nah I paid 150 for it on contract and canceled the trial then payed amazon their 250 cancel fee to keep it.
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Wait, you didn't have to pay the $350 ETF from Verizon?

Great deal on T-Mo Galaxy SIII

Got an email this weekend about a good deal on Galaxy SIII, got it today over the phone with CS.
New TMobile Galaxy SIII for $229.99 (10% discount + waived $35 activation fees) via private channel. New activations, add a line and eligible upgrades. See flyer for promo code and phone # to call. Offer not redeemable online or at the store.
mention website student rate on the phone to redeem the promotion.

http://www.wirefly.com/content/t-mo...n=wirefly&refcode1=&agent=&eid=&zipcode=80120
I don't mean to thread jack but Wirefly has a really great price as well.
I used Wirefly to get mine for $199.99 tax free with free shipping and the process was VERY seamless. Before finalizing my order through them I even went into the T-Mobile store near me to see if they could match the price or even find anything fishy with the deal that I should be weary of. The salesman looked at his system for a bit and went through the order process on Wirefly with me then said "I'd hate to give business away to another merchant but we can't beat that deal and it looks 100% legit to me. If I were you I would go with that deal also."
So I ordered it through Wirefly right there on the spot. I chose the option to upgrade the phone while keeping my current plan and my phone arrived within 3 days with a final price of $199.99. The salesman even had me return to the store when I received my phone so he could give me a micro sim card for it free of charge.
I was nervous about going this route but I can honestly say that I would do it again in a heartbeat and plan on using them for future upgrades, assuming their prices remain cheaper.

sn0warmy said:
I don't mean to thread jack but Wirefly has a really great price as well.
I used Wirefly to get mine for $199.99 tax free with free shipping and the process was VERY seamless. Before finalizing my order through them I even went into the T-Mobile store near me to see if they could match the price or even find anything fishy with the deal that I should be weary of. The salesman looked at his system for a bit and went through the order process on Wirefly with me then said "I'd hate to give business away to another merchant but we can't beat that deal and it looks 100% legit to me. If I were you I would go with that deal also."
So I ordered it through Wirefly right there on the spot. I chose the option to upgrade the phone while keeping my current plan and my phone arrived within 3 days with a final price of $199.99. The salesman even had me return to the store when I received my phone so he could give me a micro sim card for it free of charge.
I was nervous about going this route but I can honestly say that I would do it again in a heartbeat and plan on using them for future upgrades, assuming their prices remain cheaper.
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I just called T-Mobile and asked why it was $329 when everybody else had it for $199. She said that it just is. I told her that I'd be buying a Galaxy Nexus straight from Google instead of extending my contract. She then transferred me to the "save" department where they instantly quoted me $186 before shipping and taxes. Ended up paying $211 and some change for express shipping and taxes and had the upgrade or activation fee waived.

I called and asked to be transfered to the "loyalty department" ended up paying 300 but they waived my upgrade and shipping fee AND credited my account 200$. Basically only paid 100 for the device
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Sounds like there are all sorts of ways to get the S III for $199 or less with T-Mobile. Just have to be smart about it.

Wow Loyalty Department is awesome. I called them up and spoke to a nice guy about my situation. and Got a hell of a deal for a blue 32Gb GS3. I explained to the gentlemen that my wife wants to move to At&t and being with tmobile for 10 years I didn't really want to go but a friend of hers would hook us up with gs3 phones for $150 each and lower a monthly. The customer service was eager to help out to keep us with tmobile. after a few minutes on hold he came back with offering me a blue 32gb SGS3 for $120 and waving the over night charge plus saving me $50 on my monthly bill. also one of my phone are able to still upgrade next month. I'll save that for the next big thing in a few months. I love tmo. they know how to keep me as a valued customer. at the end of the phone call I asked him how soon will I have my new 32GB GS3. he said I should have it tomorrow when I get to work.
I should change my signature now... so happy

iGoOsE76 said:
Wow Loyalty Department is awesome. I called them up and spoke to a nice guy about my situation. and Got a hell of a deal for a blue 32Gb GS3. I explained to the gentlemen that my wife wants to move to At&t and being with tmobile for 10 years I didn't really want to go but a friend of hers would hook us up with gs3 phones for $150 each and lower a monthly. The customer service was eager to help out to keep us with tmobile. after a few minutes on hold he came back with offering me a blue 32gb SGS3 for $120 and waving the over night charge plus saving me $50 on my monthly bill. also one of my phone are able to still upgrade next month. I'll save that for the next big thing in a few months. I love tmo. they know how to keep me as a valued customer. at the end of the phone call I asked him how soon will I have my new 32GB GS3. he said I should have it tomorrow when I get to work.
I should change my signature now... so happy
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Not bad.
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iGoOsE76 said:
Wow Loyalty Department is awesome. I called them up and spoke to a nice guy about my situation. and Got a hell of a deal for a blue 32Gb GS3. I explained to the gentlemen that my wife wants to move to At&t and being with tmobile for 10 years I didn't really want to go but a friend of hers would hook us up with gs3 phones for $150 each and lower a monthly. The customer service was eager to help out to keep us with tmobile. after a few minutes on hold he came back with offering me a blue 32gb SGS3 for $120 and waving the over night charge plus saving me $50 on my monthly bill. also one of my phone are able to still upgrade next month. I'll save that for the next big thing in a few months. I love tmo. they know how to keep me as a valued customer. at the end of the phone call I asked him how soon will I have my new 32GB GS3. he said I should have it tomorrow when I get to work.
I should change my signature now... so happy
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Yea t-mobiles been great to me. I have five lines and the next set of full up grades is dec and feb. Well i called tmobile told them to transfer me to customer loyalty. And after a bit of talking with the women ( sounded hot so hot) she said i will give u the s3 for 360 and also got the 50 dollar mail in rebate which is cool so actually paid 310 for phone and it was at my house in 3 days. She just said i see u are a valued customer with 5 lines and always pay your bill sir we want you ro stay . Anyways im happy customer...also even tho she called it an upgrade she said it will not affect my actual upgrade i think because i extended my contract. But thats cool cuz i have been with tmobile forever anyways. So when december comes around i can get whatever is badass at that time

Lizzy345 said:
Got an email this weekend about a good deal on Galaxy SIII, got it today over the phone with CS.
New TMobile Galaxy SIII for $229.99 (10% discount + waived $35 activation fees) via private channel. New activations, add a line and eligible upgrades. See flyer for promo code and phone # to call. Offer not redeemable online or at the store.
mention website student rate on the phone to redeem the promotion.
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I just signed up for Tmo on July 5th and called them about this code. They said its a student code and wasnt able to apply to my account since I'm not a student. Has anyone else been succesful adding this code to their account?

just got off phone with customer retention they are able to offer the gs3 for 179.99 that price is only through customer retention need to call them to get it

Are you sure 179?... I paid 120 for the 32gb..
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iGoOsE76 said:
Are you sure 179?... I paid 120 for the 32gb..
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How much is your monthly bill before and after?

iGoOsE76 said:
Are you sure 179?... I paid 120 for the 32gb..
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I think it depends how long you have been with them plus if you pay your bill on time every month and stuff. Little variables cam change the price drastically. Just a thought?
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chrisram88 said:
I think it depends how long you have been with them plus if you pay your bill on time every month and stuff. Little variables cam change the price drastically. Just a thought?
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All that stuff is taken in to consideration as well as how many credits/promotions you are/have received in the past months.
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So is it better call retention or loyalty department? I is there a difference or does it matter thanks.
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Rayn1328 said:
So is it better call retention or loyalty department? I is there a difference or does it matter thanks.
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It's the Same department. When you dialing 611 and operator prompts you to select why you are calling just say "Cancel". That connects you directly to them.
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Monthly bill went from 250 to 200 for all 3 phones. 2 of them with 5gb with hotspot and the 3rd 2gb all unlimited text and min..
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When you guys upgraded via retentions, did they make you change your current data plan? I have the grandfathered 5 GB $30 data plan and I don't want to lose it. When I upgrade online it doesn't make me change it but obviously it's a lot more expensive.

aNYthing24 said:
When you guys upgraded via retentions, did they make you change your current data plan? I have the grandfathered 5 GB $30 data plan and I don't want to lose it. When I upgrade online it doesn't make me change it but obviously it's a lot more expensive.
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It all depends if that plan will still be available with the offer they give you. Just say you wanna keep it and see if they agree.
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aNYthing24 said:
When you guys upgraded via retentions, did they make you change your current data plan? I have the grandfathered 5 GB $30 data plan and I don't want to lose it.
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I was in the same situation. Heidi gave me $5 off my data price per month. I asked her several times if my 5gb status would change and she assured me it would not. Ask nicely.

[Q] GS3 with T-Mobile Advantage?

I am planning on switching to T-Mobile and I did some research to try and find the best deal possible since I am going to get into a new 2 year contract. I am a college student attending the University of Ohio and my university doesn't have a direct relationship with the school. I found a discount via the T-Mobile Advantage program and I attached the flyer here.
You get
A $50 account credit with a new activation (expires on 12/31)
Waived activation fees
10% discount
You have to call CS to activate I am not sure whether you can do it online. There is a promo code in the flyer which you have to mention. That discount is also affiliated with the student discount website Student rate. I am not sure whether you actually have to be a student or not.
Has anyone used this discount before??

Well with everything make sure you read the fine print, always little things to reduced the discounts you're getting. You sure you want tmobile they are not definitely not the best company in terms of customer service and business model. Anywho you should definitely check out best buy, they usually have really good deals on phone.
Right now they have the s3 for 179.99 way cheaper than what you would get it at tmobile around 300 or so. Make sure you call them because for some reason tmobile doesn't allow in store pickup(****ty business model). Also I don't know how all that works when you starting off, I was just upgrading good luck.
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Examine if you really need to enter a 2-year contract.
Look at the Montly 4G plans. What are your needs - how many minutes and how much data do you need ?
I went with the 100minute/unlimited texting/5Gb plan for $30/mo. Even buying the phone up-front I'm saving a great deal over locking myself into a contract - a contract that wouldn't even give me what I actually wanted.
I made the mistake of going contract with Sprint on my first phone off of my family's the family plan. Overpaid for service I barely used. I don't see myself going back to contract plans - you overpay in the long-run - much more than if you just bought the phone and then paid a lower rate for the service instead of the hidden fee of paying them back for that "free" or "reduced cost" phone.
For instance, if I went with Verizon and paid $80/mo for their cheapest smartphone plan, that's $1200 more over two years than I'm paying now. Take away the $450 I spent on the phone - that's still $750. I could literally buy a brand new phone with THAT, even and two great-condition used ones. Maybe I'm a cynical jerk, but carrier subsidising is just a way to trick you into paying more money.

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Examine if you really need to enter a 2-year contract.
Look at the Montly 4G plans. What are your needs - how many minutes and how much data do you need ?
I went with the 100minute/unlimited texting/5Gb plan for $30/mo. Even buying the phone up-front I'm saving a great deal over locking myself into a contract - a contract that wouldn't even give me what I actually wanted.
I made the mistake of going contract with Sprint on my first phone off of my family's the family plan. Overpaid for service I barely used. I don't see myself going back to contract plans - you overpay in the long-run - much more than if you just bought the phone and then paid a lower rate for the service instead of the hidden fee of paying them back for that "free" or "reduced cost" phone.
For instance, if I went with Verizon and paid $80/mo for their cheapest smartphone plan, that's $1200 more over two years than I'm paying now. Take away the $450 I spent on the phone - that's still $750. I could literally buy a brand new phone with THAT, even and two great-condition used ones. Maybe I'm a cynical jerk, but carrier subsidising is just a way to trick you into paying more money.
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It really is for most cases. Just some people like to aim high and go for an s3 and not everyone has 700 upfront to pay a company. While you end up paying more in a contract most people get paid every 2 to 4 weeks and are satisfied paying a fee monthly and two years is not very long. After the two years you can always take that phone you bought and get into those no contact based companies like metro etc.
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Is this whole offer expired? Or just the $50 credit offer?

Pennycake said:
Examine if you really need to enter a 2-year contract.
Look at the Montly 4G plans. What are your needs - how many minutes and how much data do you need ?
I went with the 100minute/unlimited texting/5Gb plan for $30/mo. Even buying the phone up-front I'm saving a great deal over locking myself into a contract - a contract that wouldn't even give me what I actually wanted.
I made the mistake of going contract with Sprint on my first phone off of my family's the family plan. Overpaid for service I barely used. I don't see myself going back to contract plans - you overpay in the long-run - much more than if you just bought the phone and then paid a lower rate for the service instead of the hidden fee of paying them back for that "free" or "reduced cost" phone.
For instance, if I went with Verizon and paid $80/mo for their cheapest smartphone plan, that's $1200 more over two years than I'm paying now. Take away the $450 I spent on the phone - that's still $750. I could literally buy a brand new phone with THAT, even and two great-condition used ones. Maybe I'm a cynical jerk, but carrier subsidising is just a way to trick you into paying more money.
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How exactly do you get on the $30 unlimited plan with 100 talk minutes if you are already on T-Mobile prepaid.. I checked in the area on my T-Mobile to change the plan and it doesn't show up in there?
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It looks like the $50 has expired but discount is still valid

Actually, this offer seems to be back on back on until 02/28 - $50 credit + 10% discount + waived activation fees. They also have some pretty good sales on handsets

Samsung Galaxy SIII is free right now until the 18th of feb, i think actually almost all tmo devices are free

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Samsung Galaxy SIII is free right now until the 18th of feb, i think actually almost all tmo devices are free
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Is this just new accounts and contracts through calling customer service? I got the s3 for free after tons of issues with my amaze, and now my wife is super jealous and wants one, haha.
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eliasadrian said:
Is this just new accounts and contracts through calling customer service? I got the s3 for free after tons of issues with my amaze, and now my wife is super jealous and wants one, haha.
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If you call and upgrade using the promo code I think you can still get the discount and a discounted device. It mayb depend whether your account is eligible for an upgrade or not. You should definitely give it a shot they're usually very helpful on the phone!

MntClmr said:
If you call and upgrade using the promo code I think you can still get the discount and a discounted device. It mayb depend whether your account is eligible for an upgrade or not. You should definitely give it a shot they're usually very helpful on the phone!
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When is T-Mobile expected to get the iPhone?

LFrank342 said:
When is T-Mobile expected to get the iPhone?
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For all we know, theyll be getting the iphone 6 when their lte network will be out for a few months.
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actually i think they're supposed to announce the GS4 pretty soon... so i probably won't even wait for the iPhone to come out

that 50 bucks for activation is gone... bummer. do you know if i still get the discount and my activation fees waived with the promo code ?

By a t mobile s3 no contract or steal one lol, just get one. Then go to si. Please mobile and get the rg plan 53 dollars a month and that's it.. "unlimited" data message and minutes. 3g is cheaper also does not need to be unlocked. I'm on it currenttly
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SIMPLE Mobile Invoice: $43.63 has been applied to your account. Thank you.
Thank you for your payment of $43.63. Your confirmation number is 7701215xxxxxx
This was the bill I just payed in the beginning of March and the text the sent me. Customer service e helps u set up your apn.. They help unlike the douche that is t-mobile.
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I pay $30 plus less than $2 in sales tax with T - Mobile.
I've never had an issue with their customer service - and it was I fact one of the reasons I was happy to switch to them when my contract with Sprint was up.
People need to pick what works best for them.
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Bad thing about t-mobile is that when you run your limit on t-mobile they put you on 2g. Simp puts you on 3
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And they use the same towers
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Bad thing abiut Simple Mobile is that I'd pay $50 to be throttled after 2Gb whereas I now pay $30 and get 5Gb until throttled. And T - Mobile avtually tells you about the soft data cap up front.
Hey, Simple Mobile is great for whoever it works for, and T - Mobile is great for who it works for. Notice that I'm not calling them "douches" even though I disagree with some of their business practices.
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I am calling them douche because I've had a family plan since the razor came out and the price just gets crazy. They treated me like a wallet. And yeah simp tells you, read the fine print.
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Differences ;Walmart new 2 yr contract $199 or t mobile no contract $150

Confused about which is the better value. Tmobile has the phone for$150 no contract plus$20 a month but Walmart has it for 199 on a new 2yr. Contract... Am i missing something here but wouldn't it be better to just buy it from Walmart They offer the same Plans right?
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ihateu said:
Confused about which is the better value. Tmobile has the phone for$150 no contract plus$20 a month but Walmart has it for 199 on a new 2yr. Contract... Am i missing something here but wouldn't it be better to just buy it from Walmart They offer the same Plans right?
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I would go with Tmo. With Walmart your locked in whether you pay the phone off early or not. There would be a fee for early cancellation. With Tmo all your obligated to do is pay the phone itself off. After that, you could easily cancel your service, request unlock pin and switch to any other carrier. I've got Tmo with 500mb and only pay $56 a month. For $10 more you could have unlimited data(2gb).
Think Un-Plan

I think it depends.
Do you foresee any reason that you may or may not be looking to switch providers or drop cell phone service all together in the next 2 years?
I've seen many people run the numbers but in my opinion and my use case the new "uncarrier" plan doesn't work out better for me.
If I would have switched my 2 lines over my bill would have gone up $20 a month. Yes I would have gained unlimited talk, and a bit more data, but I have never gone over my minutes and I've only used more than my data allotment 1 time. So for me spending $20 more a month is not acceptable, plus I am fairly happy with Tmobile and do not plan on switching anytime in the next 2 years, and my employer requires me to have a phone and pays for my line. For these reasons I opted to just renew my contact at walmart and get the 199 S4 and my wife the 149 HTC one.
Goodluck with your decision

eliteconcept said:
I think it depends.
Do you foresee any reason that you may or may not be looking to switch providers or drop cell phone service all together in the next 2 years?
I've seen many people run the numbers but in my opinion and my use case the new "uncarrier" plan doesn't work out better for me.
If I would have switched my 2 lines over my bill would have gone up $20 a month. Yes I would have gained unlimited talk, and a bit more data, but I have never gone over my minutes and I've only used more than my data allotment 1 time. So for me spending $20 more a month is not acceptable, plus I am fairly happy with Tmobile and do not plan on switching anytime in the next 2 years, and my employer requires me to have a phone and pays for my line. For these reasons I opted to just renew my contact at walmart and get the 199 S4 and my wife the 149 HTC one.
Goodluck with your decision
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What plan are you currently using?
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Definitely walmart. Tmo strategy is based on fake advertising just to make you pay more. Most people that are with tmobile have chosen it because is cheaper than the other carriers meaning they don't have where else to go so the possibility of ditching tmo in 2 years is very low. With walmart you only pay 199 + data cost while with tmo thing you spend $450 extra on the device just because you think some day you might ditch tmo. And truth is that theirs is not a real no contract thing yet because of course you are tied to paying the phone in full for the next 2 years.
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ihateu said:
What plan are you currently using?
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I'm on the classic family plan 1000 talk, unlimited text, 200 mb data. With a state employee discount I pay $98 a month for our 2 lines (of which my employer pays half of)

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I'm on the classic family plan 1000 talk, unlimited text, 200 mb data. With a state employee discount I pay $98 a month for our 2 lines (of which my employer pays half of)
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Do they let you use 200mb with smartphone? I thought it was minimum 2gb
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Underground_XI said:
Definitely walmart. Tmo strategy is based on fake advertising just to make you pay more. Most people that are with tmobile have chosen it because is cheaper than the other carriers meaning they don't have where else to go so the possibility of ditching tmo in 2 years is very low. With walmart you only pay 199 + data cost while with tmo thing you spend $450 extra on the device just because you think some day you might ditch tmo. And truth is that theirs is not a real no contract thing yet because of course you are tied to paying the phone in full for the next 2 years.
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you're wrong its cheaper and better to go with tmobile. with the 2 year contract u are locked and u get the phone for 199 bc the tmobile pays samsung the difference while locking u in to repay for the phone. but when u are in the contract you continue to pay for the phone ontop of your plan meanwhile with the no contract deal you only pay your phone and a separate plan, so when u pay off the phone ur bill drops but if u were in a contract u continue paying the same high bill.

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you're wrong its cheaper and better to go with tmobile. with the 2 year contract u are locked and u get the phone for 199 bc the tmobile pays samsung the difference while locking u in to repay for the phone. but when u are in the contract you continue to pay for the phone ontop of your plan meanwhile with the no contract deal you only pay your phone and a separate plan, so when u pay off the phone ur bill drops but if u were in a contract u continue paying the same high bill.
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Depends on what plan you have. I never go over 1000 minutes so the unlimited talk tmo has i can care less. Also most of the time i am on wifi so no need for 5gb or unlimited data. For me it is better through walmart because i know i won't ditch tmo in the near future and i have no use of the extra minutes or data i would get by going the "no contract" way.
Edit: how does tmo lock me in to repay for the phone? I only pay 199 and then pay for its services only instead of paying 150 then pay for phone + services every month.
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Its the same either way. You have to pay the $50 sales tax along with the $150 because you're paying full price. I would go with T Mobile personally
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Depends on what plan you have. I never go over 1000 minutes so the unlimited talk tmo has i can care less. Also most of the time i am on wifi so no need for 5gb or unlimited data. For me it is better through walmart because i know i won't ditch tmo in the near future and i have no use of the extra minutes or data i would get by going the "no contract" way.
Edit: how does tmo lock me in to repay for the phone? I only pay 199 and then pay for its services only instead of paying 150 then pay for phone + services every month.
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the reason they put you in contracts is because you pay off the phone. TMO gives it to you for 199 right? the difference from 650+ - 199 is given to Samsung by TMO. Then while you are in contract, you are paying for your services but also a part is going towards tmo to earn the money back it gave to samsung. and since you are in contract, you eventually pay off the phone and even more since you are locked in. if you go the uncarrier method, you pay off the phone and then only pay services.

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the reason they put you in contracts is because you pay off the phone. TMO gives it to you for 199 right? the difference from 650+ - 199 is given to Samsung by TMO. Then while you are in contract, you are paying for your services but also a part is going towards tmo to earn the money back it gave to samsung. and since you are in contract, you eventually pay off the phone and even more since you are locked in. if you go the uncarrier method, you pay off the phone and then only pay services.
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Okay i get that but i am telling you that it is very difficult to find cheaper provider than tmo. Most of us stay with tmo for 2 years at least, especially if you have a family plan. I have seen people in the s3 forums that have been with tmo for 8+ years. How often have you changed carriers in the last years?
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Okay i get that but i am telling you that it is very difficult to find cheaper provider than tmo. Most of us stay with tmo for 2 years at least, especially if you have a family plan. I have seen people in the s3 forums that have been with tmo for 8+ years. How often have you changed carriers in the last years?
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i understand but with tmo you save money on the no contracts

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i understand but with tmo you save money on the no contracts
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Am i missing something wouldn't it be cheaper in the long runto just pay 199 from Walmart ? 150 from t mobile plus 20 on top of your bill till its paid off seems like it costs more. Paying 199 and getting the 60 plan it means contract yes but I'm putting that extra 20 towards my service instead to "buy"the phone
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ihateu said:
Am i missing something wouldn't it be cheaper in the long runto just pay 199 from Walmart ? 150 from t mobile plus 20 on top of your bill till its paid off seems like it costs more. Paying 199 and getting the 70 plan it means contract yes but I'm putting that extra 20 towards my service instead to "buy"the phone
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That's what I am saying but people seem so excited about this "no contract" joke of tmo lol
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you're wrong its cheaper and better to go with tmobile. with the 2 year contract u are locked and u get the phone for 199 bc the tmobile pays samsung the difference while locking u in to repay for the phone. but when u are in the contract you continue to pay for the phone ontop of your plan meanwhile with the no contract deal you only pay your phone and a separate plan, so when u pay off the phone ur bill drops but if u were in a contract u continue paying the same high bill.
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But isn't paying 20 for 24 months basically the same ass a2yr? $20x 24 months is $480 +149 to tmobile makes $629...even if you cancel service you have to pay off the balance. I understand that if you paid the 629 up front you wouldn't pay $20 a month but if you choose to pay $199 at Walmart yeah its 50 more but you wouldn't have to pay$20 for 24 months saving you money in the long run no what I'm saying
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Look at this what i made...
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Look at this what i made...
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I got my at Costco for $199 with 2 yrs contract . The best thing about Costco is you can exchange your phone within 90 days

ihateu said:
Confused about which is the better value. Tmobile has the phone for$150 no contract plus$20 a month but Walmart has it for 199 on a new 2yr. Contract... Am i missing something here but wouldn't it be better to just buy it from Walmart They offer the same Plans right?
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What you are missing is a boatload of money at the end.
http://goo.gl/iDXI1

Walmart sir
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[Q] It it advisable?

Since Tmobile has discontinued selling devices at subsidized prices anymore, let's say, if one were to buy Note 3 from Wirefly or Staples for $299 with a new line on a classic plan (they are still allowing that), and cancel the service after 14 days and pay the ETF of $200 plus the activation $35 (which can be waived) and first month's service fees $80 (minimum), then the total comes to $579 or $614. Has anyone tried this? Will Tmobile blacklist imei once you cancel the contract?
Suhas

No reason to blacklist if u paid the money

Hmmmmm you sir might be on to something here

suhas2000 said:
Since Tmobile has discontinued selling devices at subsidized prices anymore, let's say, if one were to buy Note 3 from Wirefly or Staples for $299 with a new line on a classic plan (they are still allowing that), and cancel the service after 14 days and pay the ETF of $200 plus the activation $35 (which can be waived) and first month's service fees $80 (minimum), then the total comes to $579 or $614. Has anyone tried this? Will Tmobile blacklist imei once you cancel the contract?
Suhas
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Lol. You sure etc is $200 and not $350 or more?
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Lol. You sure etc is $200 and not $350 or more?
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I just checked myself, you got me wondering. Looks like it is $200 Check this out:
https://t-mobile.jive-mobile.com/#jive-document?content=/api/core/v2/documents/2938
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So, who's going to be the dare devil?

I think y'all are gonna be disappointed whoever tries. Carriers got themselves covered on this. Best thing is tmobile's monthly plan.
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I would do this myself but I'm out of the country on vacation. But someone should just call tmo and just ask that. But if you early term and pay etf they can't blacklist your phone. But there is still the thought if you do early terminate you may have to pay out the phone possibly. Idk.

A few years back when I worked for one of the major carriers, if you did not return the phone when you canceled within the grace period then you would have to pay the full price of the phone and if you didn't then they would send the bill to collections. This phone is awesome but not worth the harassment of debt collectors and getting your credit score screwed.

I know on amazon you had to keep the service for 6 months. If you didn't you had to return the phone or pay the full price.
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I read up on all TM stipulations about 2 weeks before the note 3 came out. I'm not sure about buying the phone on amazon but if you buy it though TM, you are basically refinancing the phone. You're paying a little more each month (I think for me it's like 15 it varies depending on how much you put down), plus you get the jump program included in your insurence. Also if you cancel, you will have to pay off the remaining balance on the phone's "loan".

OP this is exactly how I got both my note 2. Tmo had just stopped the classic plan. Walmart still offered it though. I signed up then the very next day switched to a value plan, paid the 200 fee ( on one of them because I sweet talked the Rep and got the other waived) and was set. I got me and the wife note 2s for 600 bucks total (this is when they were still the hot phone)
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Thanks for that info!

Too late, both, Wirefly and Staples, have now taken down the classic plans and are showing the full price for Note 3 Oh well, you snooze, you definitely lose! I will wait for some time b4 the price comes down a little...