At first, I liked the Bamboo Stylus FEEL and simply adjusted LectureNotes for the offset (approximately 6-7 pixels for me). However, the pen kept creating "tails" or "trails" or "squiggles" nearly every time the pen was lifted from the screen (which you kinda have to do when you are writing letters in print). This drove me crazy but I suppose I adjusted by developing a quick eraser-finger or hitting the "undo" button with reckless abandon.
I had grown so used to the Bamboo Stylus FEEL's quirks that I had forgotten how amazing the included S-pen is (but I quickly remembered when I forgot my Bamboo at home the other day). It felt strange NOT to hit the "undo" button every few seconds. However, the Bamboo spoiled me because it was much more comfortable to hold; the s-pen felt tiny in my hand.
As far as I can tell, the two main contenders for full-sized pens for the 10.1 (besides the Bamboo Stylus FEEL) are the official Samsung S-pen (listed here: http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...&qid=1367538582&sr=1-7&keywords=samsung+s+pen)
and the Samsung Series 7 Slate Pen (listed here: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Elect...1367537810&sr=1-1&keywords=series+7+slate+pen)
Can anyone comment on their experience with these pens? My main priority is accuracy; as long as it's even somewhat bigger than the included s-pen, I'm sure I'll be happy.
Or feel free to suggest a different pen, if there's a better one out there.
@drdoombot: To get rid of the strange `tails´, enable the pressure filter in the LectureNotes' input settings with a threshold of 5% or so (whether you enable `enforce lifting´ is a matter of taste, most user disable that).
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@drdoombot: To get rid of the strange `tails´, enable the pressure filter in the LectureNotes' input settings with a threshold of 5% or so (whether you enable `enforce lifting´ is a matter of taste, most user disable that).
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I did this and it fixed those tails right up.
Now the only problem is that I hit the button on the stylus ALL THE TIME. I wish the button was a bit higher up to be honest.
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@drdoombot: To get rid of the strange `tails´, enable the pressure filter in the LectureNotes' input settings with a threshold of 5% or so (whether you enable `enforce lifting´ is a matter of taste, most user disable that).
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Thanks for the tip, but I tried going from 5% to 30% stepwise (it took a few hours) and even though it got better, it still happened regularly enough to be frustrating. Using the original S-pen, it's much rarer.
@apallohadas: I agree, the S-pen button is indeed somewhat misplaced. Personally, I decided not to use the button at all and I wrapped a piece of tape around it to avoid to unintentionally press it.
@drdoombot: Actually, 5% should be sufficient. Maybe your S-pen is somewhat too sensitive, have a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDDKGPj2FI (which is a rather extreme example, I admit).
I have the official Samsung S-pen and love it. I can't compare to the Bamboo Stylus FEEL since I don't have one. It is as accurate as the included S-pen but full size. It has not left me wanting for another stylus.
I ordered the SPen holder kit yesterday, hopefully it's as good as I expect it to be! The choice was between the samsung "Pen with eraser for Note 10.1" and the one I ordered, but this one seemed alot more solid so I thought I'll give it a try. It only has a button though, but I couldn't find a official Note pen with two and the pen for other tablets seems to all have some precision issues.
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I received a S pen with eraser this morning and its awesome! In my eyes its just the right length, as its long enough to be used like a normal pen but isn't that obtrusive. The eraser at the end also works really well totally worth the tenner I paid for it, the Note 10.1 is now like a normal notebook!
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As far as I can tell, the two main contenders for full-sized pens for the 10.1 (besides the Bamboo Stylus FEEL) are the official Samsung S-pen (listed here: http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...&qid=1367538582&sr=1-7&keywords=samsung+s+pen)
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I have both the Samsung S-Pen and the Bamboo Stylus FEEL and here, I cannot confirm the problems with the FEEL.
The S-Pen from Samsung is ok, the rubber function is good. But with that, I have the problem of hitting the button. And it is very lightweight.
I bought the FEEL and keep the Samsung S-Pen at work in case I forget the FEEL at home.
The button of the FEEL is aligned with the surface and (at least for me) difficult to push accidently.
Neither with Lecture Notes nor with MyScript Notes Mobile I observe writing after releasing the pen from the surface.
Wacom suggested this
Hi all,
I have the Stylus Feel, and I've been mainly using it with S-Note (though I am trying LectureNotes based on the good feedback from these forum.
Like a lot of you, I'm getting the "squigglies" and hate it. I contacted Wacom, and here's what they said:
Bamboo feel pen only works on Galaxy Note 10.1 if the factory Samsung pen is removed from its holder.
On the Galaxy Note 10.1, select Settings, and then click on S Pen. Once here, you can toggle the option for “Battery Saving”. When this is turned on, the digitizer is not active unless the pen is out of the dock, so if the Samsung pen is in its holder, no active pen will work on the display. Slide the pen out of its holder, and Bamboo Feel and the Samsung pen are active.
Solution: If Battery Saving is un-checked in the S Pen settings, then it doesn’t matter if the Samsung pen is docked in the device, the Bamboo feel pen will work fine at all times.
I hope this helps. Let us know if we can be of further assistance.
So then I thought: this stylus technology uses magnetized stylus and sensors - maybe the S-Pen staying in the tablet is causing the issue. I checked the power check box (above), mainly to remind me to take out the internal S-Pen, and it seems like the squigglies are mostly gone. I'd be curious what others think.
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So then I thought: this stylus technology uses magnetized stylus and sensors - maybe the S-Pen staying in the tablet is causing the issue. I checked the power check box (above), mainly to remind me to take out the internal S-Pen, and it seems like the squigglies are mostly gone. I'd be curious what others think.
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Actually no, it doesn't have any magnets in it even if that's a common misunderstanding. Not really sensors either, even if I guess that depends of what you define as a sensor.
But who cares really, if it solves the problem The pressure filter in LectureNotes has helped me alot removing those "squiggles" with the stock pen, maybe you should check it out!
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Actually no, it doesn't have any magnets in it even if that's a common misunderstanding. Not really sensors either, even if I guess that depends of what you define as a sensor.
But who cares really, if it solves the problem The pressure filter in LectureNotes has helped me alot removing those "squiggles" with the stock pen, maybe you should check it out!
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Thanks for the response Axel - I got to thinking - how does it work then. It's clearly not pressure only, otherwise we wouldn't have the hover features.
Looked at a "WACOM Technology" link on Wikipedia, and there's a wealth of info (can't post link). Seems there's a triggering device in the pen, as well as an ID chip. The tablet has the electronics that make an electromagnetic connection to the pen, and there are pressure sensors in the tablet face. Amazing that they make this totally transparent to the tablet design.
So theoretically, if the tablet is triggering the pen, and there's more than one pen, it could cause an issue, hence Wacom's suggestion.
On your suggestion and from reading other posts, looks like LectureNotes may be better all around. I've started using it, so we'll see.
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Thanks for the response Axel - I got to thinking - how does it work then. It's clearly not pressure only, otherwise we wouldn't have the hover features.
Looked at a "WACOM Technology" link on Wikipedia, and there's a wealth of info (can't post link). Seems there's a triggering device in the pen, as well as an ID chip. The tablet has the electronics that make an electromagnetic connection to the pen, and there are pressure sensors in the tablet face. Amazing that they make this totally transparent to the tablet design.
So theoretically, if the tablet is triggering the pen, and there's more than one pen, it could cause an issue, hence Wacom's suggestion.
On your suggestion and from reading other posts, looks like LectureNotes may be better all around. I've started using it, so we'll see.
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Actually, you're not all wrong with your magnet theory and that is indeed how many similar products are working. But the note (and all other Wacom's products) use a kind of electromagnetic waves that are transmitted from the tablet. The wave is then picked up by the pen, first to generate a small amount of electricity in the pen (kind of like an induction stove) that runs a small chip inside the pen that finally will transmit a modified version of the wave back to the tablet. There's a pressure sensor in the pen that gives the chip information about how hard you press and the button is somehow connected to the chip as well. Due to some algorithms the tablet can compare the received wave with the transmitted wave and get a really accurate position of the pen and its conditions (button pressed or not and pressure level).
A simple but quite accurate description is a "piano fork" (you know, the tuning device for a piano). The tablet is the string and the pen is the fork, when getting close to the tablet the pen starts to oscillate. The tablet then picks up these oscillations and depending on the frequency of the wave and phase shift (how much after in time the oscillations are) it can determine the position.
Hope that made somewhat sense
For note taking LectureNotes is outstanding, if there's something you don't like about it there's a great chance there's a setting that fixes it!
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I second the vote for the S-Pen with eraser. Have been using it for two days now and wouldn't go without anymore. Good size, could do with a bit more heft (that's probably where the FEEL has the advantage), but the button is well-placed and the eraser end is just so convenient to have.
Can't comment on the FEEL as I don't have one and being happy with the S-Pen with eraser I don't think I'll order one anytime soon.
EDIT: forgot to add that it's (unsurprisingly) just as accurate as the original included S-Pen.
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I have a Samsung 7 Series slate and when I try it's pen on my Note 10.1, the offset is horrible. It has an eraser and it's longer and thicker than stock pen, but the offset is every disturbing. Both the stock Note 10.1 and Slate pen feel nice on the Slate.
The wacom feel just, well... FEEL right. It is as accurate as the stock pen; I have the carbon one so it is heavy and writing notes with it is fantastic, I get no squigles, and the button is flush to the pen, so it is actually very hard to press (even when you want to press it).
You can try one of the Axiotron pens, but these are near impossible to get these days. These pens are very nice. The pen for any Wacom-IT enabled slate or convertible PC should work as well. I don't have any experience with any other pen other than the Axiotron and S7S pen, and I can tell you that at least on my case the S7S pen had some serious offset on my Note 10.1.
I am using the Bamboo Stylus Feel for drawing on the LayerPaint app. I forgot you can handwrite notes
The pressure sensitivity is waaaay better then the first Galaxy note Pen. AND it just survived a trip in the washing machine since I forgot it was in my shirt pocket when doing laundry. Two days later and it is working great again.
I felt the button was way to stiff. But it is broken in a bit now and seems pretty good. I keep it under my thumb or pointer and it seems like a fine spot.
I do have a lot of trouble with registration on the GN1 if I rotate it with the screen orientation locked. I have to hold the pen vertical. But if you are taking notes, I guess this isn't and issue.
vs SPen with eraser?
Is there anybody that has the Bamboo Feel and the SPen with an eraser that can provide input? I'm a college student and I'll use the stylus almost exclusively for note-taking. (On paper, I write with a Uniball Signo DX 0.38mm, pretty thin pen). I'm torn between these two. Thanks!
I have both and prefer the Feel for the size, diameter and weight. If the eraser is the major criteria, then the Feel is no option. But all programs offer a quick eraser by selection and the button could also be used.
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I have both and prefer the Feel for the size, diameter and weight. If the eraser is the major criteria, then the Feel is no option. But all programs offer a quick eraser by selection and the button could also be used.
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Thank you, one more thing: How is the precision compared between the two? I remember reading in another thread about an annoying offset that had to be calibrated in LectureNotes with the Feel. Thanks again for your response :good:
Both pens are accurate, I did not see any offset.
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Purchased the Penabled Wacom Tablet PC pen, the Thinkpad X60, Samsung 8pi stylus and the Samsung Series 7 Slate Digitizer Pen. I have slightly large hands and do a lot of writing - the built in one is way too small.
Of the 4 my favorite is the Penabled Wacom Tablet PC pen. It's got the best feel in the hand. Just right amount of weight and the button is large enough that I don't accidentally depress it. Like that it doesn't have a clip to get in the way of my hand.. You may not like the white, I don't care.
The X60 is the second favorite, it's a little smaller but has some weight to it as well and its nice to write with. Looks more professional as well with the standard red eraser and black lenovo styling.
The 8pi is oddly the third. It's a little too thin for my fingers and the button is too easy to hit accidentally. Tracks the best, and if you have smallish hands this may be your thing. Get ready to order it overseas though.
The series 7 I don't use much as all. It's clip on it gets in the way of my finger too often and it's tracks the furthest off center for me.
3 of the 4 are slightly "off center". The Samsung series 7 is the furthest off target, the 8pi stylus being as accurate as the built in one. The wacom and the Thinkpad are equally off, just a couple millimeters.
if you use Lecture Notes like I do, that can be adjusted so that it's not an issue at all.
Can you provide links of each product?
Thank your for very informative inputs.
Can you provide links of each product.
Especially, wacom, and x60 pen.
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Purchased the Penabled Wacom Tablet PC pen, the Thinkpad X60, Samsung 8pi stylus and the Samsung Series 7 Slate Digitizer Pen. I have slightly large hands and do a lot of writing - the built in one is way too small.
Of the 4 my favorite is the Penabled Wacom Tablet PC pen. It's got the best feel in the hand. Just right amount of weight and the button is large enough that I don't accidentally depress it. Like that it doesn't have a clip to get in the way of my hand.. You may not like the white, I don't care.
The X60 is the second favorite, it's a little smaller but has some weight to it as well and its nice to write with. Looks more professional as well with the standard red eraser and black lenovo styling.
The 8pi is oddly the third. It's a little too thin for my fingers and the button is too easy to hit accidentally. Tracks the best, and if you have smallish hands this may be your thing. Get ready to order it overseas though.
The series 7 I don't use much as all. It's clip on it gets in the way of my finger too often and it's tracks the furthest off center for me.
3 of the 4 are slightly "off center". The Samsung series 7 is the furthest off target, the 8pi stylus being as accurate as the built in one. The wacom and the Thinkpad are equally off, just a couple millimeters.
if you use Lecture Notes like I do, that can be adjusted so that it's not an issue at all.
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Would be nice with some links to where you can purchase than. Nice compilation though.
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I am always losing the pen. That's one reason I was so glad to have the pen slot. But still I lose the pens. I have a few of the regular s-pens but I would love to have one that really felt good in my hands. But I would hate to lose it. Is there any way to attach any of the pens to my case?
I have the 8pi pen and like it quite a bit more than the stock one, but yes, you must rotate the pen in the hand correctly or the button is too easy to trigger. I've got medium sized hands and the 8pi feels pretty good when drawing and writing. I don't know about other cases, but I slip the pen through the flap for the headphones on the samsung book case and it sits on there quite nicely and doesn't get in the way of the case opening. The eraser function is particularly sweet.
The upcoming Wacom bamboo feel stylus looks really nice, but it also doesn't seem to have an eraser function. Still, if it's more accurate then it could definitely be a worthy purchase.
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Purchased the Penabled Wacom Tablet PC pen, the Thinkpad X60, Samsung 8pi stylus and the Samsung Series 7 Slate Digitizer Pen. I have slightly large hands and do a lot of writing - the built in one is way too small.
Of the 4 my favorite is the Penabled Wacom Tablet PC pen. It's got the best feel in the hand. Just right amount of weight and the button is large enough that I don't accidentally depress it. Like that it doesn't have a clip to get in the way of my hand.. You may not like the white, I don't care.
The X60 is the second favorite, it's a little smaller but has some weight to it as well and its nice to write with. Looks more professional as well with the standard red eraser and black lenovo styling.
The 8pi is oddly the third. It's a little too thin for my fingers and the button is too easy to hit accidentally. Tracks the best, and if you have smallish hands this may be your thing. Get ready to order it overseas though.
The series 7 I don't use much as all. It's clip on it gets in the way of my finger too often and it's tracks the furthest off center for me.
3 of the 4 are slightly "off center". The Samsung series 7 is the furthest off target, the 8pi stylus being as accurate as the built in one. The wacom and the Thinkpad are equally off, just a couple millimeters.
if you use Lecture Notes like I do, that can be adjusted so that it's not an issue at all.
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I saw this review on amazon when I was looking at reviews of the Penabled Wacom Tablet PC pen
Thanks for the reviews "chuckjones" (love the handle) . I saw your reviews on Amazon.com , too.
QUESTION regarding the Wacom Penabled and Samsung 8pi Stylus - does the eraser tip end work on both of these pens when using apps on Galaxy Note ?
Another review on Amazon.com that I read suggested that the eraser end works in some apps , but not all.
And what about the button on the Wacom stylus ? Does it do anything ? (is there any way it can be programmed to function as a right-click , etc. ? )
The main apps I want to use are Sketchbook Pro Mobile and TVPaint Animation (Android version currently in open beta mode) . I tried my son's Axiotron Modbook stylus (also a generic Wacom Penabled stylus) and the pen tip works fantastic in both Sketchbook Pro and TVPaint, but neither app recognized the eraser tip of the Axiotron Modbook stylus. On the other hand Photoshop Touch DID recognize the eraser tip of the Axiotron Modbook stylus.
I'm still waiting to get my Note 8.0, but I was wondering which pen would be a good purchase for the most natural drawing experience?
Is there any pen that is equal to or better than the S Pen? My only real concern is that it looks a bit thin and uncomfortable to hold.
I know this can be somewhat remedied but placing the S Pen inside the housing of a click eraser... But that seems kinda clunky to me. - What do you do if you need to use the side button?
Idealy I would want a pen that is comfortable to hold, has two side buttons just like the Cintiq / Intuos Pens, has an eraser, and can be calibrated to be *at least* as accurate and sensitive as the S Pen.
I've heard that the Bamboo Feel Pen (that was designed for the Note 10.1) doesn't work so well on the Note 8.0... Is this true? Anyone here given it a try?
Anyways, so what are my options?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Perhaps this thread would be placed in Accessories - Mods?
I have the 8pi pen, its thicker and has an eraser end. I found it is off by 5 pixels, but I only use it in Lecture Notes and that app is able to correct for it. But I wanted a better, heavier more real pen feeling pen, so I ordered the Bamboo Feel. Based on the Wacom email it could take 3 weeks for me to receive it though! Whenever I get it, I will post a short comparison.
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Thanks for the response!
An offset is something I definitely don't want in a pen. I'll probably wait on your review on the Bamboo Feel... Or if anyone else can confirm if it has an offset or not. I really like the look of it. I have a 'feel'ing it will be a really nice pen.
Sorry for the intromission in this theead... but have the same problem.
Want any suggest on a pen for my device. A capacitive pen, but not the classic with large point.
I haven't note. To me too expensive. Have a gt-i9300, a galaxy tab 7 and a zte v11a.
Someone can suggest ? Thanks a lot!
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Our company used to use a bunch of old HP Elitebook convertible tablets (2510/2730), I discovered the styluses work with the Note devices and I've been using these for my Note 2 and Note 8.
The styluses are similar to these: http://www.amazon.com/HP-digital-pe...8&qid=1367096073&sr=8-2&keywords=2710p+stylus
This is the cheapest I've found (can go for up to $60), but I like the thicker pen for more control.
The nice thing is the back end of the pen works like an eraser in some apps.
The spen that comes with it is the best ive used thus far. I have the one with the eraser and the plastic nibs and horrible offset have me using the included spen.
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The spen that comes with it is the best ive used thus far. I have the one with the eraser and the plastic nibs and horrible offset have me using the included spen.
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This is disapointing to hear. I bought the larger spen before I bought the tablet as I wanted something that would feel better in my hands for drawing. I'm guessing there is no way to correct for this offset unless the specific app you are using has that functionality.
From what I understand, any sylus that is compatible with wacom tablets, should be compatible with the note series. What I dont know if there will be an offset on these as well though. I really hope not or that they can be re calibrated. I intend on using the attached spen and a seperate stylus on my tablet and id like them both to be correctly calibrated.
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Our company used to use a bunch of old HP Elitebook convertible tablets (2510/2730), I discovered the styluses work with the Note devices and I've been using these for my Note 2 and Note 8.
The styluses are similar to these: http://www.amazon.com/HP-digital-pe...8&qid=1367096073&sr=8-2&keywords=2710p+stylus
This is the cheapest I've found (can go for up to $60), but I like the thicker pen for more control.
The nice thing is the back end of the pen works like an eraser in some apps.
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Thanks for this info. As I said in the reply above, any stylus compatible with wacom digitizers should be compatible with the note. What worries me is that there may be an offset with other styluses on these tablets (as seems to be the case with the 8pi pen). If thats the case, then the benefit of the technology is greatly diminished for drawing purposes.
The styluses seen for note and note 2 seems too much like the stylus of my old bamboo graphic tab... am i wrong?
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I am using the Samsung Bluetooth S-Pen.
http://www.amazon.com/Original-HM5100-Bluetooth-Adapter-Samsung/dp/B00B59OKTW
It is not a difference in terms of functionality. But feels much better due to its bigger size and weight. And it includes tips that are somehow coated with rubber which makes writing on screen a little more comfortable.
I got my Wacom Bamboo Stylus.
I haven't used it enough to be a good judge of offset, except that it definitely has more of an offset than the 8pi, and Lecture Notes can correct for it in landscape but I haven't been able to correct it in portrait mode yet (still trying to figure out the settings). If you need to use it in apps that do not allow you to adjust the offset, you can either use it vertically to the tablet (90 degree angle) with no offset, or shorten the nib. It appears the offset in any of these pens is related to both how much of an angle you write with, and how long the nib is sticking out of the pen.
I like the added thickness of the Bamboo Feel. It makes it feel like a real pen. It also feels heavier than the 8pi, but all the weight seems to be in the cap, making it feel top heavy when writing, so I'm undecided whether the weight is a plus or not.
It does not have an eraser end like the 8pi. This doesn't bother me since I disliked using it in the 8pi. It felt a lot more awkward and inaccurate to use than using the other button to switch between pen and eraser.
Both pens have a clip. The 8pi has a plastic clip vs the Bamboo Feel has a metal clip. I like the Bamboo Feel's metal clip much much better. The clip on the 8pi looks so fragile I'm afraid to use it. However the clip on the Bamboo Feel is study yet flexible enough that I can clip it to the side of the fake leather Moko cover that I'm using (till the Samsung and Poetic covers arrive). It is possible to keep it in the pen loop on my cover, but it only barely fits, so it's much more convenient to clip it to the side of the cover. I think this will allow me to use it with the thinner covers without a pen loop, so this pen will become the one I will be using daily.
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I am using the Samsung Bluetooth S-Pen.
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can u fit this in original pocket for s-pen? Or you have to carry this separately?
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can u fit this in original pocket for s-pen? Or you have to carry this separately?
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No, the bluetooth pen is much bigger. More like a real pen. But a big one.
I was wondering if could use a preassure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?
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I was wondering if could use a pressure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?
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Not quite sure what you mean by a "pressure pen", but the Nexus 7 screen is capacitance, not pressure. If you touch it with a hard, non-conductive object, nothing will happen. The stylus type pens work because they can conduct your fingers to the surface of the tablet (simplified explanation, don't flame me!). You can also try to operate the tablet with gloves on to see that the "contact" of your fingers is necessary to get the touchscreen to operate.
What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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No, the S-Pen is unique and a Samsung only accessory. Too bad, it looks useful but I rather stick with Nexus.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6893/samsung-galaxy-note-80-review/4
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What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.
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The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.
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Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.
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Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.
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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger
i hve no idea
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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger
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You can sort of guess the amount of pressure being applied by a finger based on the size of the touch (if you lightly touch it's small, if you press hard it's bigger as your finger squashes against the screen). So it is, sort of, touch sensitive, but if you used a stylus with a non-soft end it won't detect an increase in pressure.
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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by pressuring more it becomes bigger
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Pressure sensitivity works beautifully in Photoshop Touch with a Wacom stylus (or S-Pen) on my Note 10.1.
Conversely, finger (or capacitive stylus) pressure in PS Touch on my N7 makes no difference. Not even a little bit. As already posted by others, the N7 just doesn't have the technology to do what you're asking.
Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.
Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....
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Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....
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Have you read the rest of the thread? No, the S-Pen will not work. It's not just about the pen. Devices that use digitizer pens have an extra layer on the screen that allows the pens to do their magic. That layer is simply non-existent on the nexus 7.
This is why the note 8 costs more....
I've got a Wacom bamboo pocket and have to say that using my fingers works much better. Are all stylus ' like that or are there better ones?
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I have a few different rubber tipped stylists and they do not work half as good as the micro fiber mesh tipped ones do.
Where can I get those?
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Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.
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It's not necessarily the android device that needs the hardware - in Wacom tablets (as in bamboo, intuos etc., not Android tablets) the pressure sensitivity comes from the pen itself, not the tablet surface. While there's nothing on the market at the moment (?) that doesn't mean there never can be for the likes of the N7, where the pen would have the pressure sensitive hardware and then the tablet would just require the necessary hardware.
Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.
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Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.
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These look great, but the lack of Android support right out of the gate really has me sour on Evernote. I just don't think there is any excuse for releasing something like this as ios only. Unless they are purposely trying to alienate Android users. Not that I'm saying that's what they are doing, but it was a pretty stupid business decision regardless.
I am hoping it will eventually be usable on Android, but I haven't seen a single mention of future Android support.
Boo to you, Evernote.
I've been slowly figuring out the best companion device for my use case. I have a powerful desktop and also a powerful Wacom Windows tablet for school. The windows tablet is overkill, and I cant stand the active cooling (fan noise) in a classroom setting. There are Core M and Atom options, but they're Windows, and as a tablet, I don't really like Windows.
When I'm at home and not on my desktop, I'm using Android. So for my day to day notetaking operation at school and media consumption at home, I think this Note 10.1 2014 will be my best bet. I'll appreciate the weight, beautiful display, and Wacom.
I'll likely load a stock Android ROM because I can't stand TW and don't really care about S-Pen gimmicks, just inking.
My big gripe: the golf-pencil S-Pen. I've read other pens don't track well on the Note, and there's not a calibration tool like Windows.
Any larger pens you guys use with great tracking? Eraser end and buttons would be appreciative as well, but not sure how they work on Android.
Don't quite get it. You want a pen to do what the s pen does that's not an s pen. As the only gripe is calling it a golf pen , when its well made, looks stylish with the gridded signed metal looking end ,does its job perfectly, size is covered by the fact that you only hold the end to grip as with a normal pen , and the rest just goes up your hand, and multiple eraser functions are just a screen tap away. Naa don't fix what ain't broke. Ha ha unless your secretly a Windows tech developer , picking people's brains how to make a windows tablet as good as this note, lol
Worst comes to the worst get an s pen holder, an ave it large lol. Good luck with your search. Just thought are all the note pens the same size .
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Don't quite get it. You want a pen to do what the s pen does that's not an s pen. As the only gripe is calling it a golf pen , when its well made, looks stylish with the gridded signed metal looking end ,does its job perfectly, size is covered by the fact that you only hold the end to grip as with a normal pen , and the rest just goes up your hand, and multiple eraser functions are just a screen tap away. Naa don't fix what ain't broke. Ha ha unless your secretly a Windows tech developer , picking people's brains how to make a windows tablet as good as this note, lol
Worst comes to the worst get an s pen holder, an ave it large lol. Good luck with your search. Just thought are all the note pens the same size .
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Wow, you sure do sound like a Samsung fanboy. Secondly, I asked for note takers and artists to respond, not someone who obviously has little to no experience with Wacom tech and pennable tablets. I guarantee this Note is a little toy for you that you briefly use S-Pen gimmicks with. I don't care about faux metal, a flat button that's hard to press, no eraser, and a tiny stick. I care about a normal sized pen with good functionality, and no digitizer offset.
Try to write notes for an entire working day with that little S-Pen of yours and then check back here. Thought so.
Take a look, it works for me and many else
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2669559
The Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet Pen described in this post works with no offset on my Note 10.1 2014 edition (I've tried varying the writing angle and still haven't produced anything). Do have to press a little harder than with the S-pen, but it is a little larger (and round, rather than flattened) and so easier to use for longer sessions.
As I don't actually use the button on the S-pen, and so don't care about covering it, I slide the grip from a cheap pen around it to make it a little wider. It has an eraser end, but I have my writing apps set so I can erase with my finger anyway, so don't actually use this.
I don't draw on the tablet, but do use it for note-taking and annotation (actually the only reason I bought it).
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The Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet Pen described in this post works with no offset on my Note 10.1 2014 edition (I've tried varying the writing angle and still haven't produced anything). Do have to press a little harder than with the S-pen, but it is a little larger (and round, rather than flattened) and so easier to use for longer sessions.
As I don't actually use the button on the S-pen, and so don't care about covering it, I slide the grip from a cheap pen around it to make it a little wider. It has an eraser end, but I have my writing apps set so I can erase with my finger anyway, so don't actually use this.
I don't draw on the tablet, but do use it for note-taking and annotation (actually the only reason I bought it).
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Thanks, I'm hoping the Fujitsu Lifebook stylus with the hard felt wacom nibs (my preferred setup after a lot of trial and error) will work on the Note with no offset. Sad that people have to hack up a ball-point pen and make their own bigger stylus.
Market the Note as a note taking/art device but then don't offer any options for a comfortable stylus. Makes perfect sense.
I can tell you that Fujitsu stylus has got offset on Galaxy Note 10.1 2014, I own both
There is only one Samsung stylus with an eraser I have found. I like them so much I own three. However, the only app I have found where the eraser works is S-Note. Since I would rather not use a touchwiz rom, this really stinks. Does anyone know of any other note-taking app where the eraser works?
Which pen are you talking about?
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Squid (formerly Papyrus) can use the eraser (I'm running CM11).
does this slide into the slot inside the tablet?
phoneturf is talking about the S-pen with eraser. It will not fit in the slot. It is a massive improvement over the included s-pen, but nowhere as nice as a bamboo.
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...&qid=1384153340&sr=8-5&keywords=samsung+s+pen
Supposedly the Lenovo tablet stylus works too, including eraser. I have not tried.
Tried and works:
Photoshop Touch
Autodesk Sketchbook
Corel Painter (but a bit horrible)
ArtFlow
INKredible: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viettran.INKredible
And: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2774130
You do have to turn off air command. This app has also the ability to use finger input as an eraser tool.
Also working:
LectureNotes
S Note
Infinite Painter
Clover Paint
I love the pen with eraser for both note-taking and drawing. I bought one in damaged packaging off ebay for $15 (could have been $12 if I ordered it from Malaysia).
I did, however, have to sandpaper mine down 1/4 of an inch or so and trim the nibs just ever-so-slightly to undo a 1/4" offset it had. I then put two cheap foam pencil grips on it to make it a bit bulkier (I push the button through the foam, knowing it's aligned with the pen clip). The nibs for this pen (usually included with) are the longer, straight kind like what comes with the Wacom Bamboo Feel, rather than the very skinny-bodied ones that go in the stock pen.
I should also mention that the pressure sensitivity seems a little lesser than the stock s-pen. It responds less to very light touches, and in art programs the difference in brush sizes with increased pressure follow a steeper curve. That said, I only really notice this when testing for it, and it works fine for me in practice. All in all, I like it and am planning on buying another, but next time I may try a different brand (as other old tablet pens which use the tech should work, such as a Samsung Slate pen).