Does the note 8 support bluetooth apt-x?
Has anybody succefully connected with an apt-x enabled headphone?
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I'd like to get confirmation of this as well. My guess is that it most likely will have APT-X since the hardware and software is nearly identical to the Note II.
The Note II sounds phenomenal connected to the Samsung HS3000 BT adapter, even driving my Grado PS500 headphones directly w/o a separate amp! I honestly can't tell the difference between the APT-X BT connection and a direct hardwired connection, even on FLAC files from audiophile labels like Chesky, EMI, Telarc, and AudioQuest, etc. But I can't hear much above 15kHz...was a drummer for too long and trashed my ears.
Unfortunately, audio stablity isn't great as Note 2 because I encounter some audio dropout even it's rare. Next week I will switch memory card to does it help.
mingkee said:
Unfortunately, audio stablity isn't great as Note 2 because I encounter some audio dropout even it's rare. Next week I will switch memory card to does it help.
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Hmmm...I hope it is just your microSD card causing the dropout problem. Please let us know when you try a new microSD card. Thanks!
Would Like to know this as well. Did you ever find the answer? I think i saw it on the back on the 5100 unboxing video but have not found any info on the 5110 version. If the 5100 has it, i would think the 5110 does.
No i haven't found out yet. Still looking for an answer.
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The N5110 and 5100 both have AptX. My set of AptX headphones have an EQ mode that only functions when AptX isn't enabled. It works on my Thinkpad (no AptX) and not on my Note 8, leading me to the conclusion AptX is working and integrated.
Thank you. Would be nice if there was a App that could tell you. I looked and did not find one. I thought it might. I saw a unboxing of the n5100 and it was printed on the back apt-x, so i knew it had it. I figured the 5110 should also then. But thx again with the info.
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The N5110 and 5100 both have AptX. My set of AptX headphones have an EQ mode that only functions when AptX isn't enabled. It works on my Thinkpad (no AptX) and not on my Note 8, leading me to the conclusion AptX is working and integrated.
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Although I would tend to agree with you there could be some sources of error, which makes your conclusion tenative. I have contacted both Samsung and CSR, who has developed APTX. None of them could give a definitive answer! Part of that is the devices vary depending on region. CSR's crew in South Korea, who has worked with Samsung on their devices, will hopefully come back with a clear response. CSR will, come new Year's, set up an APTX microsite to be able to provide more detailed responses than the present general CSR site can supply.
CSR has now via Samsung confirmed the Note 8 sold in the EU has aptx despite that there's no info on the packaging or on the device over here.
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I have read that gnex has hardware that supports Bluetooth 4.0, is there a rom or kernel that has enabled it to work or is it even possible?
Thanks in advance
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I'm sorry man but i think it's impossible according to the samsung specs, it only has bluetooth 3
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphone/GT-I9250TSATGY-spec
Thanks. The reason I ask is that I saw this on Wikipedia. It states that it is Bluetooth 4.0 hardware compatible. 2nd reason is I bought those Bluetooth speakers with Bluetooth 4 and apt-x support. I just want to maximize it to it's full potential.
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Thanks. The reason I ask is that I saw this on Wikipedia. It states that it is Bluetooth 4.0 hardware compatible. 2nd reason is I bought those Bluetooth speakers with Bluetooth 4 and apt-x support. I just want to maximize it to it's full potential.
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Yes. The hardware is bluetooth 4.0 compatible but there's no software support yet. Star the issue to add your vote! ->
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
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Wait wait wait, one moment, i don't understand. The hardware inside GNeX is bt4 but it has driver that doesn't support that but only bt3, is this what are you saying? It sound really strange to me, maybe that statement on wiki means that GNeX can use other hardware with bt4 even if it's bt3 but not at full power, am i wrong?
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Wait wait wait, one moment, i don't understand. The hardware inside GNeX is bt4 but it has driver that doesn't support that but only bt3, is this what are you saying? It sound really strange to me, maybe that statement on wiki means that GNeX can use other hardware with bt4 even if it's bt3 but not at full power, am i wrong?
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It'll be clearer if you check out the link in my previous post. Gnex contains a Samsung SWB-B42 BT 4.0 Dual Band Wlan FM Tx/Rx chip so the hardware is there. The thing is the driver that is currently installed on our gnex only has BT3 coded in. And even if the driver utilizes the phone's BT4.0 capabilities, Android in itself doesn't have native APIs to allow developers to take advantage of the new features.
Sorry if i didn't read the whole link but i was at work so, you can understand... Thank you for the very clear explanation, however it's really really strange this behaviour by google...
Will Google/Android ever get BT4/BLE working on the GNex? Or shall we move on to another device if we need/want it?
Hi! I am new to xda forums and require some advanced help for my T-mobile Galaxy S4. I am sure this must have been brought up previously as there is a completely other thread for this issue regarding sound distortion when using non-Samsung headphones. (See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258831
The issue is affecting almost all variants of the Galaxy S4 where there is some sort of problem with lower impedance headphones. At higher volumes, crackling and distortion of sound and bass become almost unbearable. However, this issue does NOT affect the regular in-box Samsung headphones, as well as other lower quality headphones. The higher-end, audiophile headphones are usually the ones affected. I have a pair of Klipsch S4a headphones designed specifically for android phones, and it is impossible to listen to music with them. When I use the regular headphones in the S4 box, they work fine without any problem. Interestingly enough, my Klipsch headphones work perfectly in my old Galaxy S3, as well as my HTC phones. So this is obviously a problem with Galaxy S4 only. I even plugged in my headphones into several working models at T-mobile store/Costco and all had the same problem. But my headphones sounded perfectly fine in other devices.
Now if you have clicked the above link that talks about the issue, it seems that international S4's and GT-I9505/GH-I337 phones got the fix several weeks ago via an update from Samsung that changed their kernel versions. AT&T also received an OTA android update that fixed the audio headphones issue earlier this month (http://www.christianpost.com/news/galaxy-s4-android-4-2-2-software-update-corrects-earphone-distortion-issue-101838/ . Now the problem is, is that both T-mobile and Samsung refuse to acknowledge this issue. I have tried contacting tech support for both several time, with T-mobile saying they are unaware of the issue and no update is to be released for it, and Samsung simply saying "we recommend using your Samsung headphones that came with the device". Unbelievable considering there are official fixes for this that have gone to International users and North American AT&T users. I don't know what to do. I am guessing 99% of T-mobile users just use the headphones in the box so T-mobile/Samsung don't really care to address this issue. I am a part-time music producer and can't use my my high-end headphones on my S4 and it is really disappointing that it can't handle such a basic task. I don't want to have to root my phone because I use Wi-Fi calling and NFC very frequently and usually they are disabled in rooted versions. If anyone has a fix for this it would be much appreciated. I am a noob here at these forums so please explain any solutions step-wise for better understanding - thanks.
OK I have an LG phone and a LG 730+ headset, but it seems that my LG headset has APT-X support and my new LG-G3 doesn't. Which seems weird that a flagship phone does not have the codex that their headset would. Has anyone found support for APT-X on this new G3 phone? Since I don't know enough about the APT-X codex, is it hardware or software based? I asked because if it's software based maybe it can be added with an upgrade from LG, if hardware then it looks like I'm SOL and I really thought buying this phone would get me APT-X support.
I'm not sure exactly what aptx is but I do see them on my headphones as well buy my headset works fine with my g3
A few minutes on Google and I found this info...
From the aptX site:
http://www.aptx.com/product/lg-g3-smartphone
On LG's site, the spec listing shows Bluetooth 4.0 LE (APT-x) Connectivity:
http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/g3
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OK I have an LG phone and a LG 730+ headset, but it seems that my LG headset has APT-X support and my new LG-G3 doesn't. Which seems weird that a flagship phone does not have the codex that their headset would. Has anyone found support for APT-X on this new G3 phone? Since I don't know enough about the APT-X codex, is it hardware or software based? I asked because if it's software based maybe it can be added with an upgrade from LG, if hardware then it looks like I'm SOL and I really thought buying this phone would get me APT-X support.
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http://www.jessebandersen.com/2012/05/list-of-apt-x-compatible-devices.html?m=1
So few devices use this codec. I definitely can't head difference. Used my Samsung that does support it and my g3. So change in sound quality at all. Head phones work just fine.
AWESOME G3
Heard it may not be enabled on t-mobile
OK thanks everyone for looking at LG's website and checking the specification (why I didn't do tha) but I heard that the t-mobile version in the US may not be enabled for APT-X codec, again another thing removed for no reason. Since I have root any terminal command to check this would be appreciated. I tried the one "getprop persist.service.btui.use_aptx" which was the way to check on the LG2 but it isn't the same I guess with kitkat. So I have no clue if the rumors are right that big Pink T won't support aptx.
I think T-Mobile rumors of them not supporting it is fallacy. Simply because other devices have it installed. From Sony, Samsung, and HTC. I think it's more possibly if it's no additional charge and a default thing it's there. If the manufacturer has it as an option and charges for it T-Mobile may have forgone paying the extra(like headsets for example).
after working perfectly with 4.4 - my Fiio E17 DAC no longer works with my Tab S
from reading forums this seems quite a common complaint across Samsung users - including some Note 4 users (although bizarely some seem to have no issue)
I am not sure if it is a combination of the Tab S Exynos chipset + 5.02 + my specific DAC that has an issue - so has anyone with a Tab S and Lollipop got any USB DAC to work please ? I find the Headphone out rather poor (nowhere near as god sounding with my headphones as my Note 3) - but the screen class leading - so the combination of the Tab S + USB DAC was absolutely superb
I have read of one user using a E17 with a Sony device and Lollipop 5.02 - although can't verify it
I think Samsung had their own USB audio implementation before on 4.4 - which worked flawlessly for me - have they moved across to generic Android 5.02 implementation - and therefore could that be the issue (but doesn't explain why some non Samsung devices working ok) - OR has Samsung disabled their own USB audio but hasn't somehow implemented the 5.02 audio correctly?
hence I was wondering if anyone has managed to get USB Audio out of their Tab S please
USB audio works fine in USB Audio Pro tool - but you can only play local music content, 99.9% of my Tab S usage is with Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video etc etc
thanks for any help
LOVING Lollipop on Tab S otherwise so would be a shame to have to go back to 4.4 just for USB Audio
Bought an Oppo HA-2 and am having the same issues.
Sounds totally distorted using Player Pro, Poweramp, Samsung native music player, Spotify.
On Poweramp. the sound is distorted and the speed is super slow ie it gives the low demonic voice, like when slowing down a LP.
I don't want to have to load the Tab S with audio files and that only to use UAPP.
Fiio E18 here, works flawlessly with my Sony Z3 Compact.
On Tab S 10.5 LTE just gives slowmo playback and massive distortion..
I'm in the same boat. I used to use DACs with my Tab S 10.5 fine on the stock OS (4.4 I think), but when I upgraded to Lollipop it just hisses at me when I plug one in now. This is esspecialy annoying as I've just bought the Oppo HA-2 as well. I find this very odd since Lollipop is supposed to bring generic support for this to devices and yet it has stopped it working here. My wife has a Elephone P7000 (running Lollipop) and that works fine. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and a Galaxy Alpha (both running 4.4) and they work fine, butt if the Alpha (my main phone) gets an upgrade to Lillipop I will have to leave it now, as I need these two devices to work (they look so damn pretty together!).
Have you complained to Samsung about this? If so have you got a response? I think I will mention it to them now...
Im having problems as well...ive recently got a tab s 8.4...i upgraded to lollipop right out of the box...damn!
Anyway....my device is SMSL X-USB (XMOS based usb receiver). Works great with UAPP but not natively....no sound. On my Note 4 with lollipop 5.1.1 UAPP and native works great with it.
I want native to use RDIO, TUNEIN RADIO ETC....and then use UAPP for my hidef 96/24 flacs.
Im thinking of trying some custom roms but there are so many! Has anyone had any success with any of the custom roms?
Ok, I decided to change my entire Car Tablet install. Eliminate my Bluetooth head unit for a DAC and a DSP only to find issues. Both my Tab S 8.4 and S6 Edge will NOT WORK without using UAPP. But that's a music player. So no Android app sounds go through it. No YouTube, videos etc. Total fail with Samsung. I can test a HTC M8 just to try. Nexus 7 fresh from the 5.1.1 update doesn't work but I don't trust using my current DAC, since it's a 5.1 Surround Asus Xonar U5.
I've been trying to find DACs that work but haven't found much. I joined HeadFi and found some people that ditched the awesome Tab S for the downgraded Tab S2 because their USB SPDIF only DAC worked on the Tab S2.
I wouldn't mind downgrading to 4.4 to make DACs work, but will not get rid of my lovely screen, size, and install to go to a different tablet I dislike.
Like I stated I can't trust the Xonar, it's not a typical DAC. Unless someone can confirm it works with the Tab S on 4.4.
I know I'm not a 10.2 user but virtually the same devices, including the Tab Pro. So no need to make a new thread.
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So, Cheap USB DAC's are working fine on Samsungs with Android 5+. But the ones I've tried out that are capable of digital audio output don't work unless using UAAP. This is not Ok. Time to look for a CM10 Rom to install on my Tab S. This is a huge failure on Android 5. I don't think its just samsung because my Nexus 7 on 5.1.1 OEM (Maybe CyanogenMod 12 as I have not tried it yet) also does not work, as well as my HTC M9. Everything works if using UAAP, but thats just a Music Player, does not work with any other audio. I personally might end up trying a decent priced DAC with only Analog output. Since I can't hear the difference in quality in my car.
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I had same problems with usab audio out on lollipop on tab s, nexus 7 and LG G3.
I eventually got Tab S T805 USB audio out to work after I flashed the AICP 5.1.1 rom. Worked perfectly.
Last week I flashed the AOSP Marshmallow ROM and USB audio out and this works perfectly too.
I am sending to an Audio GD DAC via an OTG adaptor.
Eventually got the G3 to work on lollipop by using a powered hub but this did not work for Tab S.
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after working perfectly with 4.4 - my Fiio E17 DAC no longer works with my Tab S
from reading forums this seems quite a common complaint across Samsung users - including some Note 4 users (although bizarely some seem to have no issue)
I am not sure if it is a combination of the Tab S Exynos chipset + 5.02 + my specific DAC that has an issue - so has anyone with a Tab S and Lollipop got any USB DAC to work please ? I find the Headphone out rather poor (nowhere near as god sounding with my headphones as my Note 3) - but the screen class leading - so the combination of the Tab S + USB DAC was absolutely superb
I have read of one user using a E17 with a Sony device and Lollipop 5.02 - although can't verify it
I think Samsung had their own USB audio implementation before on 4.4 - which worked flawlessly for me - have they moved across to generic Android 5.02 implementation - and therefore could that be the issue (but doesn't explain why some non Samsung devices working ok) - OR has Samsung disabled their own USB audio but hasn't somehow implemented the 5.02 audio correctly?
hence I was wondering if anyone has managed to get USB Audio out of their Tab S please
USB audio works fine in USB Audio Pro tool - but you can only play local music content, 99.9% of my Tab S usage is with Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video etc etc
thanks for any help
LOVING Lollipop on Tab S otherwise so would be a shame to have to go back to 4.4 just for USB Audio
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interestingly I get proper sound out of Neutron with their new "direct to USB" option
except then my Note 3 crashes
Neutron?
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It's a music player
Whilst talking about USB DACs - someone on another thread posted a work around for Note 3 and USB DACs and woks perfectly on my Note 3 but no go on Tab S
If you just want to play Music, try UApp. I'm completely against settling for JUST a music player. I want to play a movie and YouTube and everything.
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I totally agree as most of my usage is the likes of Spotify etc
The workaround for my Note 3 although adds a few steps allows you to use DAC for all apps but doesn't work for Tab S
Annoying as the headphone out from my Note 3 is very very good anyway but the output from my Tab S I find rather poor and the main reason I bought the DAC in the first place !
Yes. I'm hoping there is a fix on 6.0 because I am not ok with just music. My tablet is built into my car, with a optical DAC, and a Helix DSP.
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I can't comment on the fiio as I've only got the amp only E11k but I can say my turtle beach earforce 450 DAC seems to work fine on my tab s. No surround, obviously, but I do get sound.
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All analog DACs seem to work. It's the DACs that have an optical out that are having issues.
Might join in on the Android 6 pages to see if they can fix the Native drivers. Doubt Samsung really cares enough. Typical DACs are working, that's good enough for them.
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Well, guess the "Native" USB DAC 'crap' Google has implemented doesn't work worth a damn on 6.0 either. Soo odd how it works almost flawless across soo many platforms before Android 5, then they release "Native" drivers that cripple all worthwile DACs. It's like they are purposely preventing us from using better DACs than that was installed internally so we'd be forced to use the Wolfson.
And Apple devices have Optical built in. Lol
Anyway I'm on 6.0 now testing out my Asus Xonar. Same issues as before. Using UApp it works but since UApp is 'only' a music player it leaves all other audio routed through the tablet. Noticing one issue that's new, there is a click sound every couple seconds of music playback that wasn't there on 5.1.1.
Need to find me a pre 5.0 CyanogenMod Rom to run.
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what about trying your stock 5.0.2rom with another kernel? like ironkernel or skyhigh kernel.
i do(or want to) belive dac suport is a kernel issue
if already are on lollipop 5.0.2 i would try this before anything else
i am currently on 4.4.2 and was just about to update to 5.0.2, had read it has native dac suport lol.
just tought i would check if there was any issues first
becouse i do have some issues of my own with my cheepo 5$ ebay pcm2704 dac with optical out (everytime i coldstart my xenons or i bump my cable it gets disconnected/connected in an instant and then sound gets wierd kinda like an echo of sorts, and i have to close music player remove cable wait a bit plug in and all is fine. quite annoing and dangerus now in the wintertime when there are frequent xenon cold starts) was hoping 5.0.2 would solve this.
im in the same boat as many others, dac suport inside player does nothing for me, as im using the tab as gps/mediasenter
so from what im reading im gonna live with it or atleast until someone have tryed 5.0.2 with another kernel
Cmon be a guinnipig, your device doesnt work anyway nothing yo lose ;p
Name the kernel and Rom, I've been on them all. I'm a vivid tester. It's not a kernel issue. This "native" support, technically just removed drivers for some dedicated DACs. Leaving the others that have been tested and proved working for years... Yes years before "native", I know I've been using DACs in all my tablet car installs from cheapo eBay 1 dollar pos dacs to high end, removed. The app UApp has this specific driver built into the app itself.
However what your describing sounds like a wiring issue.
I even jumped on the Android 6 bandwagon. It's not working on OEM Samsung Android 6 that was just released in beta form.
The hifi forum has 790 pages of info. And page one a collab of info on what dacs work and how they work.
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indeed i had wirering issues, nothing was sheilded, resoldered otg with sheilded cables and grounded dac chassie to cable (at the same time made a y on the otg cable for simulcharge with 88kohm resistor) and behold all is as should. ( all but a clicking sound left so i guess my dsp needs the same treatment) thanks
no build with a fix thats just wierd, there are so many clever rom/kernel builders in here
guess we cant do nothing but hope for a fix then
thanks for testing and letting us know
Hello !
I have a good apt-x pair of headphones and an apt-x compatible phone for the time being. I thought about buying the OP3(T) but I'd like not to loose this funtionality.
That's why I thougt I could buy an apt-x transmitter and plug it to the jack, in order to have apt-x !
What if i also buy an external DAC and plug the transmitter to it ? Would it work, does it make sense?
So overall, do you think it is a good option to do like that ? Do you have something better ? Or do you think that what I am saying is completely dumb ?
Thanks !
Does apt-x make such a difference that it is worth the effort?
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Does apt-x make such a difference that it is worth the effort?
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Imo it doesn't if all you do is audio listening. But then again, I reverted back to wired cause even aptx still sucks.
On the other hand, latency response is noticeably better, so in those quite rare instances where I want to watch a movie (from tv mostly) via bt, aptx helps. I mean, without aptx, same content would be unwatchable due to audio lag.
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Imo it doesn't if all you do is audio listening. But then again, I reverted back to wired cause even aptx still sucks.
On the other hand, latency response is noticeably better, so in those quite rare instances where I want to watch a movie (from tv mostly) via bt, aptx helps. I mean, without aptx, same content would be unwatchable due to audio lag.
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Ah okay, never thought about the latency of bt cause whenever i watch a movie over external speakers i just use aux since the speakers are right next to the tv.
Eventually, I'm working on an apt-x support for a while without success... A lot of phones provide apt-x functionality without hw support.. It's a sw solution, but I didn't find the method to load the closed source codec like BlueZ. If I found working libraries from other phone, I'll let you know...
I swapped from my Xperia Z2 (with apt-x) to my Oneplus 3 and the only device I have that was capable of receiving apt-x Bluetooth audio is my car receiver. I noticed no difference.
Maybe car audio is a poor test because, despite my custom in-car setup with high quality receiver, amp and speakers, the car is very noisy, so some differences are lost to exhuast/wind/tyre/road noise.
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Well, to be honest, if you have a great pair of headphones (not necessarily ultra high end, just mid-high headphones) that are compatible, you can hear the difference, it's a question of details imo. And low latency is definitely the first thing you notice. But no matter for music obviously. Is it a deal breaker? Well, I'm asking myself, I might reconsider the Apt-x necessity.
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Eventually, I'm working on an apt-x support for a while without success... A lot of phones provide apt-x functionality without hw support.. It's a sw solution, but I didn't find the method to load the closed source codec like BlueZ. If I found working libraries from other phone, I'll let you know...
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Really interested in that if you find something, but as long as it is a protected technology, it's a hard task that you try to achieve :/
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I swapped from my Xperia Z2 (with apt-x) to my Oneplus 3 and the only device I have that was capable of receiving apt-x Bluetooth audio is my car receiver. I noticed no difference.
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Thanks for this feedback, but I'm not surprised that in a car the sound is the same, for the reason you told
Hi,
I've really good news... I think, I've found a perfect device to make OP3 apt-x supported...
Unfortunately, my apt-x enabled headset will be my x-mas present, so I'm not 100% sure... I need to test it... Stay tuned...
EDIT: it's working, I've aptx
12-16 23:55:42.482 1462 1606 I bt_btif_media: btif_a2dp_encoder_init Selected Codec aptX
care to share how you did that?
iCstyle said:
care to share how you did that?
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It's working on cm14.1, maybe it could work on N as well... It won't work on 6.0.1 based roms... You need 2 libraries from Moto-Z...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/themes/mod-aptx-codec-t3521228
Wow. I mean, really?
Thank you so much for sharing, I hope it can work with the Snap dragon 821 as the OP3 is no longer available, but anyway, I could try to buy an original OP3 just for that.
Awesome, thank you
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Wow. I mean, really?
Thank you so much for sharing, I hope it can work with the Snap dragon 821 as the OP3 is no longer available, but anyway, I could try to buy an original OP3 just for that.
Awesome, thank you
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There's a really good chance to make it working with op3t as well...