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i havent gone threw every review but any of u guys catch anything in any review?
the epic by far was the best phone ive used but the GPS was down right awful and sprint nor samsung did anything to fix it
XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I certainly remember that a lot of people had trouble, but I never did. Mine always locked perfectly and quickly and never gave me trouble on drives short and long.
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I never understood the gps deal. It seemed so sporadic. Mine always worked and I am stock. I used it last weekend on EH17 to drive 5 hours to saint louis and it was perfect the entire way there and back. Didn't cut out once. But you see some people worth working gps and others without it.
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I have to agree on the gps sucking. On any drive over an hour I could expect to loose lock. I'd imagine if we looked in some of the other GSII forums we might get a clue.
the only thing i ever loved more about my evo then the epic was the gps....htc never gave me gps issues ever
when i had the bionic or droid x they both locked on quick
Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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If you couldn't fix it then that wasn't the norm. I would have returned it to Sprint and got a different one within the first 30 days.
9 hour drives? No problem. Longest I've been on was 6 but the GPS didn't have any problems. The battery on the other hand...
got mine yesterday, used GPS with google nav and telenav. drove for about an hour in farm country Ohio. GPS took a few seconds longer to lock than my EVo but once locked didn't drop signal. Still a little early to tell but no obvious problems yet.
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Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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So if you brick your phone because of something you did is the phone bad. Is there a flaw in the phone? No. And again, I never said there wasn't a problem. Actually I said that there was a problem for some and not for others. The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
Generally speaking GPS on the galaxy S line sucked world wide. Generally speaking it appears that samsung fix this in the galaxy s II.
This is based on reading numerous reviews on both; though it is always possible they messed up on the epic touch as it is slightly different and has wimax; I'm expecting it to work like a charm.
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I do wonder how many folks who tested gps on the galaxy s remember to ignore wifi triangulation when voicing a comment.
Forgot about this thread and started another a bit further down. I managed to sneak GPS status onto our demo phone yesterday and it locked to 9/10 sats in less than 2 seconds from inside. Accuracy was only at 30m when I cut it off, but it was indoors in a spot where my epic cannot lock at all. Pretty sure it's fixed.
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The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
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I did spend a fair amount of time investigating the GPS issues on EC05. There are at least two problems: (i) GpsOne Xtra data that fails to download and update, eventually resulting in stale ephemeris and inability to get timely locks, and (ii) a RIL synchronization bug that results in the GPS crashing with 5% probability on every exit/switch of a GPS utilizing app.
The latter of those two problem is definitely confirmed and affects every EC05 Epic. However, if you only use Navigation once a day, you'll run into that bug an average once a month and might not even notice it. But it is possible to reliably reproduce.
The former of the two problems I never fully understood. The GPS should work as long as you reboot once a week, but we know folks whose phones chronically couldn't download new Xtra data on reboot, likely becuase it was attempting to do so "too quickly" after establishing a network connection. Forcing an Xtra download through GPS Test, GPS Aids, or with a patched framework resolved the issue for most of those folks. The remaining issue is that the ephemeris would still go stale very quickly (hours) on some phones, and an EFS/NVRAM clear appears to help that.
Part of the issue is that the "brokenness" of the GPS is somewhat subjective. It's entirey possible for the GPS to absolutely not be able to get an Xtra-assisted lock, but using almanac data still get one in 30-60s in a vehicle. For some folks, that might be "good enough" and wouldn't think there's much of a problem.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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I think the opposite of what your saying is true. This problem isn't as wide spread as it seems. The few who have this problem are very loud about it and complain about it over the forums. Though I seriously doubt that they are the majority.
If fixing your gps doesn't work then you can always set it back to stock and take it in for repair. If they can't repair and you don't have insurance then you can pay a small fee for a epic with a working gps. I doubt anyone is forcing people to live with a phone that the gps doesn't work on.
Considering that it has a dedicated GPS chip "SiRFstarIV GSD4t GPS" I doubt that we are going to see the same issues.
The integrated GPS on the SoC stinks, and samsung knows that. Using the SiRFstarIV will solve 99% of peoples GPS problems.
engadget claims it is solid. fwiw. http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/samsung-epic-4g-touch-review/
Our calls were absolutely solid. The phone's reception is on par with the best handsets around, and we never suffered from dropped calls or degraded quality. Our calls came in absolutely clear, and we think the speakers go to 11 because we had to actually turn down the volume to comfortably hear the other end of the line. The same thing could be said about the loudspeaker for calls and music, which both came out loud and clear without needing to strain our ears or feeling like we needed to break out the headphones. However, the sound seemed a bit limited when watching a full-length blockbuster movie, though we believe this had to do with the quality of the movie itself and not the phone.Last but not least, we double-checked the GPS to make sure it wouldn't have similar concerns to the Galaxy S series, and weren' t disappointed. In several locations -- including a basement next to a window -- the GPS pulled up our location in less than ten seconds. Needless to say, this is definitely a sound improvement, one we imagine had special attention given to it throughout the course of the phone's development.
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So normally I run my phone on Wifi because it saves battery when i'm on my university campus all day. So last night I headed off campus and so I turned off WiFi, and it didn't want to connect to data. Just sat there (with full service) but no data connectivity. So I rebooted the phone. still no connection, turned on airplane mode and then back off, now it worked but only for about 3 minutes I had 4G with blue sync and everything, then it dropped off. I went out into a rural area and I kept having full signal but no 3G. So I thought it was the rom. I was running AOKP b25 (Team Kang) so I just updated to Milestone 4. Everything was going well in initial setup of the phone, I had 4G signal, then halfway through setup the 4G dropped off. So I turned on Wifi and got everything setup. Turned off Wifi and it hooked to 4G almost immediately. Then about 3 minutes later, it dropped again. So at this point i'm really hoping it's not my phone and it's Verizon. I've never had a single issue before (i've had the phone since December) with data not connecting like this. It just started last night, which made me think it was Verizon and maybe it had to do with the Solar Flares or something? Has anyone had a similar issue and have any idea of what I might try?
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I was just about to post the same thing. I'm experiencing the same, Data and service keeps dropping, I just got the phone Wednesday and since then It's been doing it. It's very frustrating, and I'm also on Verizon.
Someone else experiencing the same? Could Verizon be the responsible here and not the phone?
And if it helps, i'm located in Norman, OK
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I was just about to post the same thing. I'm experiencing the same, Data and service keeps dropping, I just got the phone Wednesday and since then It's been doing it. It's very frustrating, and I'm also on Verizon.
Someone else experiencing the same? Could Verizon be the responsible here and not the phone?
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It's the phone, there's numerous threads about it (the Verizon version.) There's an expected software fix supposedly coming out this month sometime to fix it, that's all we know.
If it's the phone and an update will fix it, then why is it still doing it with a custom ROM? Do the custom ROMs not have the fix in place? I was under the impression that most of the things Verizon releases OTA to fix issues dont' happen in custom ROMS.
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And if it helps, i'm located in Norman, OK
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Hey, we are 4hr away from each other. I'm in Rogers AR
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It's the phone, there's numerous threads about it (the Verizon version.) There's an expected software fix supposedly coming out this month sometime to fix it, that's all we know.
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Thank you I'll start digging up in some other threads
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If it's the phone and an update will fix it, then why is it still doing it with a custom ROM? Do the custom ROMs not have the fix in place? I was under the impression that most of the things Verizon releases OTA to fix issues dont' happen in custom ROMS.
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Samsung is going to hopefully release a radio update that fixes it, which isn't found in custom rom's because it hasn't been released outside of samsung yet.
It's kinda weird though that this JUST happened last night suddenly, the signal has been flawless since I bought it so that's why I thought it was Verizon because I guess I figured if it was the phone it would have been doing it all along and not stop working all of a sudden.
It's the phone and a software update won't fix it. I've tried every radio out there, none solved the issue. I got the phone swapped over a week ago, it is still stock, and the issue hasn't returned. Theres an ongoing thread over at rootz about this.
I can't post the link but it's there. many members are reporting that replacing the device solves the issue.
this was verizon. it happened to me, went away by itself.
that being said, ive had the best handoffs using the 4.0.4 and 4.0.3 radios. try one of those, or a hybrid package.
I went to the Verizon store and they gave me a new SIM Card. Now it works!
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It's the phone and a software update won't fix it. I've tried every radio out there, none solved the issue. I got the phone swapped over a week ago, it is still stock, and the issue hasn't returned. Theres an ongoing thread over at rootz about this.
I can't post the link but it's there. many members are reporting that replacing the device solves the issue.
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First of all you don't know what you're talking about. It may be a hardware issue it may be a software issue. There is no way to tell at this point. You are trying leaked radios, good job that proves nothing. If Samsung is aware of the issue and working on a new radio you haven't tried it yet. Sit back and relax until the update comes out. Then we can go from there.
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First of all you don't know what you're talking about. It may be a hardware issue it may be a software issue. There is no way to tell at this point. You are trying leaked radios, good job that proves nothing. If Samsung is aware of the issue and working on a new radio you haven't tried it yet. Sit back and relax until the update comes out. Then we can go from there.
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Wow dude, no need to get insulting. I was merely sharing my experience with a frustrated OP. If you want to blindly believe that there can't be anything wrong with certain devices, until the manufacturer comes out and says it, then more power to you. You are the consumer that ever manufacturer loves. Myself and many others over at Rootzwiki have found success by having our devices replaced. When I tell you that it is night and day difference, it is not a lie.
I agree with you about the leaked radios. If they don't work then it proves nothing. They are leaked and probably not finished. The reason I mentioned them in the first place is because many people tend to suggest trying them to solve signal issues. I was explaining that I have tried them and it did not work. What worked was swapping the defective phone.
Hey guys ever since getting this phone ive been having to keep getting replacements for it and it still havent fixed the various problems that ive had with this phone.
1. microphone will cut out during calls and sound will stop working.
This problem has been resolved from getting a replacement through verizon's warranty program.
After receiving my replacement however, i am now getting the signal drop issue where the only way for the phone to work is putting it in CDMA mode. Ive researched online and found that various other people have been experiencing the same problem with their galaxy nexus. So i go to the store to order another replacement.
After receiving my 3rd replacement, still no luck. This phone is still experiencing the same problem has the last where the signal would randomly keep dropping. So i go back into the store and decide to switch out the sim card for the phone and order another replacement.
The 4th replacement comes in and to still no surprise the signal keeps dropping off. I found that both korean made phones and chinese made phones are experiencing the same problem. Ive changed my SIM card, rooted and unrooted, tried various roms, updated to the unofficial 4.1 jelly bean update and still nothing fixes this damn radio problem.
Im so fed up with this phone but if anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated as i have no idea how to get a working galaxy nexus and have never experienced a working one still. I would KILL to get a phone that actually keeps a 4g signal ><
This should not be in development.
Oi...
I don't quite understand the purpose of these threads...
For reference, this is the development forum despite the Verizon designation. Releases only here.
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This should not be in development.
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oops sorry will move my post to general.
Can't find download links for your rom.
oh wait...
There is nothing you can do except to keep getting replacements. No software will fix your issue at this time.
I just received a replacement yesterday as my phone's radios, voice and data would disconnect and only a reboot would fix it. Today I made it through the day without it happening once on my replacement. Still not convinced it is the device though until I go a few days without it happening.
If it happens with this one, I would say it is more of software radio issue and not the physical device and Samsung needs to do something about it.
So, I will see how it goes over the next few days. If this one continues to work, then it could possibly be the device. I My first GNEX though would not keep 4G for more then a minute and jump off, then on, then 3G, then 4G. To me that was the device. My next one would just lose it after a few hours, otherwise it was fine....
Let's hope the 3rd one is a charm.
Try updating the radio and is it possible you live in a area where signal is poor. I haven't had an issue at all with my nexus
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Try updating the radio and is it possible you live in a area where signal is poor. I haven't had an issue at all with my nexus
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currenly using the latest from official 4.0.4
tried the many hybrid radios too out there and its still doing this. you must have gotten lucky then, ive been experiencing this ever since i got the phone
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Jooining the club.... I had a relatively well functioning gnex until about 2 weeks ago, it did reboot once in a while, but oh well. Then it totally died suddenly. Tried to revive it to save data, but to no avail. So here you come Verizon "like new" replacement..... :fingers-crossed:
Oh no....well sure enough, started to have problems with dropped connectivity data + voice immediately after init.
Previous phone never did it. And it is doing this over a huge urban city.... I was careful in transferring my SIM as well.
there a slew of threads around forums discussing this issue and related (among others see through https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24345"]https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24345
Is is time for class action against Verizon for improper testing procedures and wrongly sending faulty devices as new (which they can pass along to Samsung since ultimately, it is probably Samsung who is playing dumb) ?
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Hey guys ever since getting this phone ive been having to keep getting replacements for it and it still havent fixed the various problems that ive had with this phone.
1. microphone will cut out during calls and sound will stop working.
This problem has been resolved from getting a replacement through verizon's warranty program.
After receiving my replacement however, i am now getting the signal drop issue where the only way for the phone to work is putting it in CDMA mode. Ive researched online and found that various other people have been experiencing the same problem with their galaxy nexus. So i go to the store to order another replacement.
After receiving my 3rd replacement, still no luck. This phone is still experiencing the same problem has the last where the signal would randomly keep dropping. So i go back into the store and decide to switch out the sim card for the phone and order another replacement.
The 4th replacement comes in and to still no surprise the signal keeps dropping off. I found that both korean made phones and chinese made phones are experiencing the same problem. Ive changed my SIM card, rooted and unrooted, tried various roms, updated to the unofficial 4.1 jelly bean update and still nothing fixes this damn radio problem.
Im so fed up with this phone but if anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated as i have no idea how to get a working galaxy nexus and have never experienced a working one still. I would KILL to get a phone that actually keeps a 4g signal ><
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This is the VZW development thread. You'll find better responses /answers to your questions in the proper forum.
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Thread moved. Please do not post general threads or questions in the development section. Thank you.
---Jay--- From the GNex
I can confirm 100% issues with GPS on my AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4. I bought it Sunday (12/28/2014) and noticed instant GPS inaccuracies, teleporting, not updating correct route information, etc. I got home, OTA'd, tried again the next day, same issues. Took it into AT&T yesterday (12/30/2014), guy instantly swapped, I stood right there and showed him exactly what was happening on the brand new,fresh out the box phone. "Hmmm, I'd give it a couple of days to.....uhhh.....calibrate, then bring it back if it doesn't work." Screw that, wtf is going on? Why do a select few of us have the problem and why does it continue to happen to the same people?
In another forum, a guy took his back not 1, not 2 but 3 TIMES, same gps issues everytime......... Add me to the list of people who've had multiple phones and the same gps issues. SIM related????? Maybe? I can't have another phone, I absolutely love this thing.
Had a Note 2 for close to 3 years, not one GPS problem. Using the Otterbox Defender,tried with and without case.
Not experiencing this personally...
Might try the 'supposed' fix here and see if that helps you at all.
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Not experiencing this personally...
Might try the 'supposed' fix here and see if that helps you at all.
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Lucky you, I tried everything under the sun before I tried to get a new phone. I'm almost 98% positive it's a sim or AT&T software issue, most people started experiencing this after the update, I haven't had the phone long enough to know that information though.
Anyone have GPS Issues. I drive 5 hours a day and notice my GPS loses signal a few minutes and gets it back at least once an hour. I started having GPS issues after I did my update.
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Anyone have GPS Issues. I drive 5 hours a day and notice my GPS loses signal a few minutes and gets it back at least once an hour. I started having GPS issues after I did my update.
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Same here, even more frequently than that
I am having same exact problem after lollipop update.
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I'm having the same issue after the Lollipop update.
I've had these issues with kitkat, lollipop, and over 6 or 7 replacements (lost count) on both T-Mobile and ATT variants. I've tried using a GPS repeater in my car, I've tried all the software/app fixes, resetting the GPS, etc etc. My suspicion is that it has a weak antenna and loses signal frequently.
It seems Samsung phones are a bit prone to GPS issues. I feel like it's Groundhog Day.
I may have to give up on Samsung and find something different.
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It seems Samsung phones are a bit prone to GPS issues. I feel like it's Groundhog Day.
I may have to give up on Samsung and find something different.
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I actually called att and I told them my GPS was going nuts ( mine would say I was in a different city ) and they sent me a replacement right away. The replacement works great and haven't had any problems with it. It came with android 4.4.4 and I upgraded to 5.0.1 and haven't had any GPS issues at all.
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I actually called att and I told them my GPS was going nuts ( mine would say I was in a different city ) and they sent me a replacement right away. The replacement works great and haven't had any problems with it. It came with android 4.4.4 and I upgraded to 5.0.1 and haven't had any GPS issues at all.
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I'm curious, did you get a new unit or a refurbished one as a replacement? Was the thin chromed frame scratched at all?
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I'm curious, did you get a new unit or a refurbished one as a replacement? Was the thin chromed frame scratched at all?
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It was brand new like not a single scratch at all and it had the stickers like when u get a new phone. Now it didn't come with a battery or with the s pen or the back cover because when u call att they actually tell u " hey make sure u just send the phone back and that's it, keep the pen, the Sim, the micro SD, battery and the back cover."
Hmmm....from what I'm reading here, the GPS issue is not related to the OS upgrade, and that possibly exchanging the phone will result in success.
I was thinking I had red that this started with the OS upgrade. I hadn't used my GPS enough before the upgrade to know.
I guess I'll see if AT&T will exchange mine.
I have the exact same issue. Every 10 minutes or so it just stops updating and takes a minute or two to start tracking me again. It's really frustrating when I'm driving around a city and I can't see the next step in my directions because I'm a mile ahead of it.