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[Q] Replacing Sense MMS.APK

Hi all,
My phone is rooted. Not a fan of the Sense 4.0 SMS/MMS app. I know I can download the default ICS 4.0.3 MMS.apk from the market.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.concentriclivers.mms.com.android.mms
When I go to install it, it says it will overwrite the existing application. Before I get reckless...
Couple questions:
- Why is there no existing mms.apk in /system/app ? I can't find it. Does HTC call it something different or...?
- How do I backup the current Sense version in case I screw this up and need to restore it?
- Is the Sense one tightly integrated into the rest of Sense? Will it break other apps, widgets...?

So far I got this working.
1. installed stock ICS SMS from market
2. backed up and removed /system/app/Message+CRC_1.apk
3. rebooted phone
Haven't tested MMS nor any sense features that might bomb (I hope not)
I'll update thread if there are any problems and I need to roll this back

Any Update
Hey. Just wondering if you had any update on how this worked? Everything still fine? I want to go to the ICS MMS app, cause the sense one isn't as nice.

microsurf said:
Hey. Just wondering if you had any update on how this worked? Everything still fine? I want to go to the ICS MMS app, cause the sense one isn't as nice.
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I use it daily, the SMS app works perfectly. Love this change.
The HTC SMS widgets that display your messages on your desktop may not work (don't think mine do) but this is easily remedied by just finding other widgets in the market etc. Just don't put the default HTC ones on your desktop.

Won't uninstalling the app just automatically put stock sense app back in there?

johnl199 said:
Won't uninstalling the app just automatically put stock sense app back in there?
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No. The stock ICS app does not play nice with the stock Sense app, you can't have them both on the phone at the same time. Its not like when you install GOSMS or something.
I had to actually delete the sense app right off the phone completely for it to work properly. Otherwise I had strange problems such as messages being sent twice.
Since I physically deleted the sense app there is no going back without re-installing the sense APK.

Did you save the stock apk? No joke one of my hesitations is the messaging app. If I can switch to stock ICS for messaging I may be ordering mine yet tonight.
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Can you post a picture of the app running on your HOX?
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TheIowaKid said:
Can you post a picture of the app running on your HOX?
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Honestly no why would i? I updated this post to be kind but I'm not building something here, this was for my own use and it works perfectly. I'd that's not what you're looking to hear, find another thread. I won't lose sleep at night.
As for backing up the original sense app, yes I did see step 2 above. I used adb for this just pull the file.
Again this works perfectly If anyone cares to try it. nothin to lose, if you don't like it just put the sense file back and reboot.

I installed both the calendar and the sms app today and they seem to work fine. Haven't tried mms. Haven't uninstalled anything yet, will see if I run into trouble. Thanks for posting readk, been searching for this but didn't find it until now
EDIT: Ran into problems immediately of course where pressing the Messaging app launched the HTC Messages app. Following your instructions for backup and removal seems to have done the trick though. Next step will be to do the same for the calendar

readk said:
Honestly no why would i? I updated this post to be kind but I'm not building something here, this was for my own use and it works perfectly. I'd that's not what you're looking to hear, find another thread. I won't lose sleep at night.
As for backing up the original sense app, yes I did see step 2 above. I used adb for this just pull the file.
Again this works perfectly If anyone cares to try it. nothin to lose, if you don't like it just put the sense file back and reboot.
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Wow, get out of the basement once in a while and realize how to communicate with humans. I simply really liked the idea of stock ICS messaging on the HOX and since I don't have mine yet I was just asking to see it because I imagine it would look really awesome. Why would you? I guess since you were sharing what you were doing I thought you wouldn't mind. Guess not.
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Just wanted to note that trying to send or receive a MMS crashes the app.

span_01 said:
Just wanted to note that trying to send or receive a MMS crashes the app.
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Doh. Well that sucks. I was just about to try this.
Thanks for the information!

TheIowaKid said:
Can you post a picture of the app running on your HOX?
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I'd post screenshots for you, but I think I can't until I make 10 posts.

Did jelly bean somehow fix auto sms to mms problem?

after buying my gnex, my only problem with it was converting long sms messages to mms. by using another messaging app i've solved this problem for myself. however i would like to use stock messaging app.
is there any way to stop this app from doing that, without modding the app i mean?

That's not a problem; it's actually a feature.
On the stock Mms.apk in Jellybean, I can't see a way of disabling it. Although I did find a modified ICS Mms.apk that doesn't auto-convert the messages once it hits its threshold.

Awful feature, seeing as MMS cost money and SMS are included with your network tariff.

thx for fixin me for calling that a "problem". however as i see it, its not a helpful "feature".
what i meant with "did jb fix the problem" meant that, did they put a disable setting for this "feature".
i dont want to use all the "features" of my phone. i would like to choose which "feature" i want to use instead of being forced to use it.
edit: i ve just tried to send long messages to different phones and myself. seemslike stock messaging app doesn't convert sms messages to mms anymore.

kallshak said:
after buying my gnex, my only problem with it was converting long sms messages to mms. by using another messaging app i've solved this problem for myself. however i would like to use stock messaging app.
is there any way to stop this app from doing that, without modding the app i mean?
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I pushed this file to system/app using the root browser feature of ES file explorer. After reboot I have the original ICS mms app that works perfectly with long sms messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29264598&postcount=24:laugh::o

adeklipse said:
That's not a problem; it's actually a feature.
On the stock Mms.apk in Jellybean, I can't see a way of disabling it. Although I did find a modified ICS Mms.apk that doesn't auto-convert the messages once it hits its threshold.
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I just flashed my Galaxy S3 with Jellybean a couple of weeks ago and was disgusted to discover this "feature" of converting SMS to MMS. Thing is, I don't have an MMS.apk file on mine, only a SecMMS.apk. Is this the same thing? Would the modified MMS.apk file work for my phone? And would I need to rename it SecMMS.apk and overwrite the current one?
Thanks.
I must say I'm quite angry at the stupidity of this MMS conversion. Why on earth would I want my SMSs (which are free and unlimited) to be converted to MMSs (which cost £0.40 / $0.64 each) ???

[Q] stock email and s voice apps.

Hello All,
I'm new to the forums, new to android, and new to rooting. I recently switched over from iphone, and it has been a bumpy yet fun ride.
I have an unlocked Galaxy SIII SGH-i747M running the Illusion ROM, android ver. 4.2.2 illusion ver. 4.2.2.2.1 beta
I really miss the stock email app and S-voice, I'm trying to get them back. I've tried the email app from this package:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28000240
as well as this modded app here, which installed OK but doesn't seem to be working as it will not sync any mail no matter what sync settings I choose.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28246860
I don't know what to do about the S-voice. So far what I've read says it cannot be done. Any ideas guys? Please go easy on me, as I am new to this stuff and yes, I did do my research on the forums and wasn't getting anywhere on my own. Thanks!

crazyman143 said:
Hello All,
I'm new to the forums, new to android, and new to rooting. I recently switched over from iphone, and it has been a bumpy yet fun ride.
I have an unlocked Galaxy SIII SGH-i747M running the Illusion ROM, android ver. 4.2.2 illusion ver. 4.2.2.2.1 beta
I really miss the stock email app and S-voice, I'm trying to get them back. I've tried the email app from this package:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28000240
as well as this modded app here, which installed OK but doesn't seem to be working as it will not sync any mail no matter what sync settings I choose.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28246860
I don't know what to do about the S-voice. So far what I've read says it cannot be done. Any ideas guys? Please go easy on me, as I am new to this stuff and yes, I did do my research on the forums and wasn't getting anywhere on my own. Thanks!
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While I'm only 99 percent certain, I'd say this is not going to work for you. From what I know, both of these apps are integrated and reliant upon the Touchwiz interface to work correctly. May be a stupid question, but have you correctly set the incoming/outgoing servers in the email app?

BCSC said:
While I'm only 99 percent certain, I'd say this is not going to work for you. From what I know, both of these apps are integrated and reliant upon the Touchwiz interface to work correctly. May be a stupid question, but have you correctly set the incoming/outgoing servers in the email app?
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Yes, I believe so. I used the same settings which did work when I had touchwiz. I could tell it was talking to the server because it still prompted to accept all the security settings, etc. it requires, just would never display anything in the inbox.
I did get the s voice to work last night, though (yay) a couple bugs but will work for me. If I cant use the stock email app, do you have any other suggestions? Something lightweight and clean?
Thank you.

crazyman143 said:
Yes, I believe so. I used the same settings which did work when I had touchwiz. I could tell it was talking to the server because it still prompted to accept all the security settings, etc. it requires, just would never display anything in the inbox.
I did get the s voice to work last night, though (yay) a couple bugs but will work for me. If I cant use the stock email app, do you have any other suggestions? Something lightweight and clean?
Thank you.
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When you installed the email APK, did you use a package installer or did you place it in system/apk? If you took the latter step, you may have needed to fix the permissions of the apk. If you used a package installer you may want to try the system apk method. Let me know if you don't fully understand and I will try to be of more help. BTW the permissions should read rw x r x r
. Another thing to look into would be to install the secemail.apk from the S4, as it may be an Android 4.2 thing.

[Q] MMS via WiFi

I'm looking for general information concerning MMS messaging and our device's ability to utilize a WiFi internet connection rather than it's mobile data connection to send those messages.
I've been rooted and using modified operating systems for quite some time and haven't run anything stock for a while. That said: Does the stock messaging application in the bone stock, non-rooted, TW MD4 build have the ability to use WiFi when sending an MMS message? I've been running various modified and rooted ROMs based on MD4 and the messaging applications I've been using in those ROMs do have that ability. So my question at the basic level is: Does my phone's ability to send MMS via WiFi come from a modification that is inherited from the ROMs I've been running? Or is that ability inherited from Sprint's drop of the OS and the messaging app included in it?
Thanks in advance for any insight.

That's on the carrier side. They have to support it for it to be a function of the app

CNexus said:
That's on the carrier side. They have to support it for it to be a function of the app
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Thanks for the input.
My question was wordy ... sorry about that. My question has to do with the apps themselves, not our carrier (Sprint).
Does the stock messaging app in the bare bones stock ROM from Sprint for our GS3 (MD4 stock) include support for MMS over WiFi?
In orther words: Does the stock TW MD4 ROM perform MMS over WiFi in the stock messaging app without modification?

DurhamHusker said:
Thanks for the input.
In orther words: Does the stock TW MD4 ROM perform MMS over WiFi in the stock messaging app without modification?
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I don't think so. but there are free apps in the market that can use just wifi. Haywire is one that i've used but the downside to them all (as far as i know) is none use your number to send and receive text/mms, in other words you have to give your contacts a new number to text or mms you with a new number that is given by the app itself.

montecarlo5 said:
I don't think so. but there are free apps in the market that can use just wifi. Haywire is one that i've used but the downside to them all (as far as i know) is none use your number to send and receive text/mms, in other words you have to give your contacts a new number to text or mms you with a new number that is given by the app itself.
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Thanks very much for the info.
For the record, I'm not looking for a solution. I'm looking for a definitive answer as to whether the stock app and ROM (unrooted and unmodified MD4) will do MMS over WiFi w/o modification.
Anyone with a definitive answer?
Thanks in advance.

Yes, it does on the stock app
It complains that it won't send until you connect to mobile network, but it sends anyway

CNexus said:
Yes, it does on the stock app
It complains that it won't send until you connect to mobile network, but it sends anyway
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Thanks!
It does the same thing on the modified setups I've been running. Seemed odd. But good to know it does this on the bone stock no rooted setups as well.
Much appreciated.

DurhamHusker said:
Thanks!
It does the same thing on the modified setups I've been running. Seemed odd. But good to know it does this on the bone stock no rooted setups as well.
Much appreciated.
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Sorry, wasn't sure what you were asking at first

[Q] Hangouts Emoji Issue with 8.4

Hey Guys just got my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4. So I'm using hangouts and the usual emoji button that shows up to the left of the conversation is missing??? Anyone know how to get that back or is it a bug?

MasterRy88 said:
Hey Guys just got my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4. So I'm using hangouts and the usual emoji button that shows up to the left of the conversation is missing??? Anyone know how to get that back or is it a bug?
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It doesn't appear when you use the built in Samsung keyboard. If you install the stock Google Keyboard it shows up.

dbdynsty25 said:
It doesn't appear when you use the built in Samsung keyboard. If you install the stock Google Keyboard it shows up.
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So when you use the stock google keyboard its the one that shows up in the lower right correct? Weird that they look different than on my GS4

MasterRy88 said:
So when you use the stock google keyboard its the one that shows up in the lower right correct? Weird that they look different than on my GS4
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Correct.

Last night my Sprint Galaxy S4 got the 4.4.2 update
when I use the hangout app. all I see are the samsung emojis
before I used to have an icon for the hangouts emojis.
any ideas??/
I did install the google keyboard but I still see the samsung emojis.

frafri said:
Last night my Sprint Galaxy S4 got the 4.4.2 update
when I use the hangout app. all I see are the samsung emojis
before I used to have an icon for the hangouts emojis.
any ideas??/
I did install the google keyboard but I still see the samsung emojis.
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I also want to know how get Android emoji when using this tablet. Just bought it and immediately noticed it.
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