(Discussion) The Fragmentation of Galaxy S4 devices - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

I wanted to start a discussion about one thing that I see as a drawback to Samsung development. I'd love to hear peoples thoughts about it and what their experience was on previous Galaxy devices.
I just got this incredible beast of a phone last Tuesday...and....I LOVE it.
This is my first Sammy device, coming from all HTC phones for the last several years. One major thing that has concerned me is the lack of cohesive development, simply due to the fact that Samsung releases so many variants of the GS4 (or do they?).
The one main thing HTC has going for them in regards to phones & development, is that there is usually only one main forum for all your needs. For instance, my old Sensation...all you have to do is SuperCID & have S-OFF and you can flash any ROM you want, regardless of carrier etc. Even though there were several varieties of the Sensation (XE etc), if you had SuperCID...your ROM options were endless. Look no further than the development forum for the One...quite frankly, it is incredible the amount of custom stuff that is available in that forum. Even before the phone was widely released, there were about 2 dozen of XDA's great devs, modders, themers, already pumping out ROM's & Kernels & Mods etc etc. All this with very little confusion or fuss on how to root and or what you can or can't flash etc.
I wish it were as simply as that for us. I can only imagine how amazing development would be for the S4, if it wasn't split up into 4-5 different forums.
Lastly...I would love to know if it will ever be possible to flash anything that's for the I9505 (for instance the ROM from Indie). If the GS4 can have SuperCID, or something similar...why would this not be possible?? Of course we've all heard that we should NEVER flash anything that's not specific to our Tmo GS4...and leaves me wondering just how involved development will be for the Tmo GS4. My question would be why is that not possible if the hardware is the same....regardless of carrier? What are the restrictions to flashing anything I9505 related...and will it ever be possible? Is there an actually hardware difference in the German Tmo I9505 and the US Tmo I9505??
I simply look at it from a perspective of less devs in one spot, means less development for each variant...and that kinda bums me out a bit.
Love to hear what you guys think about this...
Cheers! :good:

Blame the US carriers for split forums.
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II using Tapatalk 2

Hoggles said:
Love to hear what you guys think about this...
Cheers! :good:
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The T-Mobile version is not the i9505, it is he M919. The i9505 is subtly different and is the only model of the GS4 to contain an FM radio.
The fragmentation is due in part to what the previous poster noted; us carriers; and LTE. The Sensation was not ever released on CDMA networks, it was GSM only and all models had the same hardware, including the actual radios. This is why the development was in one section, because all the devices were the same hardware, with only slight software differences depending on region/carrier.
The i9500 is the technological dream of the masterminds at Samsung flexing their muscles as a super power. The vast majority of the components are made directly by them including the revolutionary CPU and screen. I cannot think of any other company that does this. The entry model on these units is rarely catered to the us market (think original GS2, GS3, original Note) and usually sees a second generation to add support for CDMA and or LTE (Think carrier branded GS2, GS3, Note).
The I9505 & Carrier branded versions utilize a different SoC to accommodate for global demand. Most qualcomm chips these days are being mass produced and have LTE/CDMA worked out in their design initially. I makes it easy for sammy to push out more units in a quicker amount of time.

Hoggles said:
I wanted to start a discussion about one thing that I see as a drawback to Samsung development. I'd love to hear peoples thoughts about it and what their experience was on previous Galaxy devices.
I just got this incredible beast of a phone last Tuesday...and....I LOVE it.
This is my first Sammy device, coming from all HTC phones for the last several years. One major thing that has concerned me is the lack of cohesive development, simply due to the fact that Samsung releases so many variants of the GS4 (or do they?).
The one main thing HTC has going for them in regards to phones & development, is that there is usually only one main forum for all your needs. For instance, my old Sensation...all you have to do is SuperCID & have S-OFF and you can flash any ROM you want, regardless of carrier etc. Even though there were several varieties of the Sensation (XE etc), if you had SuperCID...your ROM options were endless. Look no further than the development forum for the One...quite frankly, it is incredible the amount of custom stuff that is available in that forum. Even before the phone was widely released, there were about 2 dozen of XDA's great devs, modders, themers, already pumping out ROM's & Kernels & Mods etc etc. All this with very little confusion or fuss on how to root and or what you can or can't flash etc.
I wish it were as simply as that for us. I can only imagine how amazing development would be for the S4, if it wasn't split up into 4-5 different forums.
Lastly...I would love to know if it will ever be possible to flash anything that's for the I9505 (for instance the ROM from Indie). If the GS4 can have SuperCID, or something similar...why would this not be possible?? Of course we've all heard that we should NEVER flash anything that's not specific to our Tmo GS4...and leaves me wondering just how involved development will be for the Tmo GS4. My question would be why is that not possible if the hardware is the same....regardless of carrier? What are the restrictions to flashing anything I9505 related...and will it ever be possible? Is there an actually hardware difference in the German Tmo I9505 and the US Tmo I9505??
I simply look at it from a perspective of less devs in one spot, means less development for each variant...and that kinda bums me out a bit.
Love to hear what you guys think about this...
Cheers! :good:
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You're spot on. I had the HTC Sensation as well. I currently have the HTC One. I can def say that HTC retains the crown when it comes to consumer development. They even launched a website to unlock your device in response to so many requests for it.
What has Samsung done? Well, most recently they pushed an update that locked out root at the kernel level. Boo!
From what I've seen thus far (and yes I know it's still early) there has been a very weak response in the dev department for the T-Mobile variant of this device. It has been out for a couple of weeks now and we still don't have a PIT file posted anywhere. So if anyone hit a worst case scenario, they would be unable to fully wipe their phone and use an ODIN tar to return to stock. On that note, we don't even have a virgin untouched tar of the stock firmware (MDL that has tweaked kernel) for ODIN. A couple of the deodexed and zip-aligned flashable packages that were posted have slight changes made to them - we NEED untouched flashable zips. Don't post something as "stock" if you have modified the firmware.
All in all, we have had a very rocky start on this T-Mobile variant. I'm contemplating buying the device for a couple of the old Team Whiskey guys and starting our own team for this. There is a lot of work to be done, yet. And this device has a lot of potential.
Some of you may be offended by this and some of you may be rolling your eyes. That's fine. But these are my two cents.
On a brighter note... I'm hoping for a massive response once source drops.

luckyduck69 said:
You're spot on. I had the HTC Sensation as well. I currently have the HTC One. I can def say that HTC retains the crown when it comes to consumer development. They even launched a website to unlock your device in response to so many requests for it.
What has Samsung done? Well, most recently they pushed an update that locked out root at the kernel level. Boo!
From what I've seen thus far (and yes I know it's still early) there has been a very weak response in the dev department for the T-Mobile variant of this device. It has been out for a couple of weeks now and we still don't have a PIT file posted anywhere. So if anyone hit a worst case scenario, they would be unable to fully wipe their phone and use an ODIN tar to return to stock. On that note, we don't even have a virgin untouched tar of the stock firmware (MDL that has tweaked kernel) for ODIN. A couple of the deodexed and zip-aligned flashable packages that were posted have slight changes made to them - we NEED untouched flashable zips. Don't post something as "stock" if you have modified the firmware.
All in all, we have had a very rocky start on this T-Mobile variant. I'm contemplating buying the device for a couple of the old Team Whiskey guys and starting our own team for this. There is a lot of work to be done, yet. And this device has a lot of potential.
Some of you may be offended by this and some of you may be rolling your eyes. That's fine. But these are my two cents.
On a brighter note... I'm hoping for a massive response once source drops.
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Wrong. There is already stock ODIN files on here and sammible. You do not need a .pit to flash an MD5 and the T-Mo Note 2 didn't have one either in the dev sections. Yes Samsung has included a new revision in their kernel to lock out root access, big deal. We are a group of developers here dedicated to outsmarting the man and doing things our own way. The i9500 already has the newest kernel built from source with the 1 flag (yes, it's one flag) circumvented. HTC doen't even have an official RUU available yet, and their HTC dev site records your IMEI to refuse you warranty service lol. I would suggest you read up some more before offering up your two cents, because based on what you stated they are without warrant, and worthless.
Here's a link to the stock ODIN file since you missed it, http://www.hotfile.com/dl/213469534/9ff06bd/M919UVUAMDL_M919TMBAMDL_TMB.zip.html

KillaHurtz said:
Wrong. There is already stock ODIN files on here and sammible. You do not need a .pit to flash an MD5 and the T-Mo Note 2 didn't have one either in the dev sections. Yes Samsung has included a new revision in their kernel to lock out root access, big deal. We are a group of developers here dedicated to outsmarting the man and doing things our own way. The i9500 already has the newest kernel built from source with the 1 flag (yes, it's one flag) circumvented. HTC doen't even have an official RUU available yet, and their HTC dev site records your IMEI to refuse you warranty service lol. I would suggest you read up some more before offering up your two cents, because based on what you stated they are without warrant, and worthless.
Here's a link to the stock ODIN file since you missed it, http://www.hotfile.com/dl/213469534/9ff06bd/M919UVUAMDL_M919TMBAMDL_TMB.zip.html
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No... I don't think you understand.
Of course you don't "need" a PIT file. But do you understand what that is used for? I encourage you to try this.
1. Run the latest update. The virgin, str8 from kies, MDL update. You'll have the root-block kernel and everything.
2. Now try to ODIN back to the previous firmware using THIS MDB tar file.
I think you will find you are unable to successfully return to the fully stock MDB firmware. That tar file alone will not wipe anything. It will seem to flash via ODIN. But once you reboot... you'll still have your MDL firmware installed (sorta). You might suggest installing CWM or TWRP Recovery here. Well... you can try. I did. You will run into some interesting issues. LIke not being able to get into ANY recovery until you perform a full reset from within the system settings menu. Then suddenly finding your way into the stock android recovery. At which point you'll do a factory reset/wipe from the stock android recovery. Then you WILL be able to install CWM Recovery and flash... oh wait. There is no completely stock flashable firmware package. Those we do have are found HERE and have had things removed.
I'll give you another example. Let's say you soft brick your phone. You need to do a restore via ODIN. But you also need to wipe it completely. What are you going to do? You can't get to recovery. Can't load the system. You need to do a full wipe and factory restore. How are you doing to do that without the Partition Information Table and ODIN?
As for warranty... technically we're all void of warranty so why does it matter? We all void the warranty as soon as we start flashing. That is why all the devs put that disclaimer in their OPs.
Furthermore, while its kinda cool that you went straight into defensive mode, I wasn't bashing anyone. I'm just saying we need to pick it up and get the right files out there for the ppl who don't know how to fix things on their own and so forth. If I need to I'll take one of my computers off of Folding and turn it into a dev box so I can help out.
Love, Peace, and Chicken Grease :good:

All you need is the ODIN file I provided (MDL). After that you can enter the stock recovery and wipe the data as needed.
If you are completely bricked (cannot enter download mode) Samsung will warranty the phone for a new one.
It's not defensive that I am being. I could careless if you brick your phone lol, I am only providing facts that you seemed to miss.
The .pit file is usually used if you have borked the phone from all recognition and need to tell the device what to flash where as it sets the maps for the partitions.
Your original post said nothing of having to wipe or anything else you just disclosed which is still incorrect to an extent.
We all know that stock ODIN files do not wipe data, but with the files I posted you will not need to go back to a lower firmware in the 1st place and will not be locked out of the system or recovery....
If you are concerned with a stock .pit file, make one from Heimdall. Or, are you one of the ones "who don't know how to fix things on their own" ?

KillaHurtz said:
All you need is the ODIN file I provided (MDL). After that you can enter the stock recovery and wipe the data as needed.
If you are completely bricked (cannot enter download mode) Samsung will warranty the phone for a new one.
It's not defensive that I am being. I could careless if you brick your phone lol, I am only providing facts that you seemed to miss.
The .pit file is usually used if you have borked the phone from all recognition and need to tell the device what to flash where as it sets the maps for the partitions.
Your original post said nothing of having to wipe or anything else you just disclosed which is still incorrect to an extent.
We all know that stock ODIN files do not wipe data, but with the files I posted you will not need to go back to a lower firmware in the 1st place and will not be locked out of the system or recovery....
If you are concerned with a stock .pit file, make one from Heimdall. Or, are you one of the ones "who don't know how to fix things on their own" ?
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Nah. Benji was cleaning up the code last night. But he did tell me that Heimdall 1.4 will be officially released in a few hours. And that he confirmed it working on his Sprint S4. Previous versions wont detect our snapdragon device.
As for your MDL ODIN file, you're still missing the point. But im going to drop it.
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[Q] Help!What is EL29,EH17,SRF12, ETC?

Not sure what these numbers and letters mean....
Mine sais EL29, so i only flashed the ROM (Blazer ROM 4.0) that had all the same information as my phone displayed under "About Phone"....
This page http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=716 has a list of ROMs, a few of which i would like to use. Specifically the new ICS leaks (Hurry up SPRINT, release the ICS ALREADY!!)...
My question is... is the "EL29" "EH17" "SRF12" and all those others the firmware versions? Modem Versions? What are these? If a ROM specifies this information anywhere, will i have to upgrade or downgrade to the appropriate files (Or firmware) before flashing the ROM? I have no idea what these are or what they mean.
From what i've read and picked up, i know that some of these things will have to be done through ODIN and I think I read that some other things can be done through CWM, like flashing the ROM itself.
I just need a little more information on how flash ROMs properly concerning what needs to be done BEFORE I flash a new one... No one wants a Samsung PaperWeight.
Things I already know:
1.) Must install a ROM compatible with your phone (DUH)
2.) Sometimes you gotta use ODIN (Is this only for root? Or do you use this to upgrade/downgrade modem firmware or something, too ?)
Also, what other file exensions should I be familiar with and what do they do? I just want to be able to modify my phone with no problems and a collection of links and bookmarks for me to pull it off. I'm not trying to be a programmer (yet =)
Any links specific to my questions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
Most of this could be answered with a little reading, frankly. Many of the stickies explain most of this.
I would start by watching some of QBKING77s YouTube videos, they will explain Everything.
There should be a link in my sig to get yourself started with an easy one click root, but read, read, and then read some more before doing anything.
A link to a post I answered similarly previous :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23413749
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Date the firmware was built that simple. EL29 was the most recent gingerbread build. FC13 build which btw was todayish is the latest ics leak.
In simplest terms:
EL29
E is the year. E was 2011, F is 2012, etc.
L is the month. A=Jan, B=Feb, C=Mar, ... L = Dec
29 Well, given the rest of the pattern, is the compile date. In this example, 29 is the 29th day of December, 2011.
And as the other poster says, this info is out there if you spent a bit of time searching for it.
I want to see a custom ROM based on the SRF12 leak.
Compusmurf said:
In simplest terms:
EL29
E is the year. E was 2011, F is 2012, etc.
L is the month. A=Jan, B=Feb, C=Mar, ... L = Dec
29 Well, given the rest of the pattern, is the compile date. In this example, 29 is the 29th day of December, 2011.
And as the other poster says, this info is out there if you spent a bit of time searching for it.
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Thanks. Thats what i was looking for. Never would had guessed what the E's and L's stood for.
I have read on this, trust me. Including the links that kingdazy provided. Although i will watch that youtube video to see what i can learn from it.
As i've said i've already root my Samsung E4G Touch flawlessly and i'm loving it, i was just wanting clarification on things.
My main question is.... If it has a different build, for instance mine is EL29, i would have to somehow get FC13 firmware on to my Samsung E4GT to flash any ICS ROM on to it, right? Either that, or whatever other firmware version the ROM instructions specify, i'm guessing.
I think the firmware is done using ODIN, right? I know i just used ODIN to flash an already rooted EL29 image..
But is CWM only used to install files from zips such as ROMs or stuff like Gapps?
Or does it depend entirely on the developers instructions? I know some dev leave out some instructions such as "use ODIN" or "use CWM" so when they do, i'm assuming i can use either or?
I DO see that they tend to tell you what NOT to use.. Like this one for CM9
"Using ODIN (link) flash to StockCWM EL26. Flashing CM9 from another recovery, such as Rogue, MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED"
Needed clarification as to whether or not i've been understanding what i've been reading. Overall, i'm just wanting to know if i'm on the right track. If you guys got any pointers or advice. I would greatly appreciate it.
And just FYI.... I do my research. I know how to read. I'm just not as familiar with these forums like you guys are and have problems finding things. You got to admit, sometimes performing searches require a little finesse and know how....
Anyway, Thanks a lot.
Sorry I'm at work, can't link or go into detail, but in general ".zip"s are for cwm, ".tar"s are for odin.
If a dev insists on one or the other, they will say.
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exitprogram said:
Thanks. Thats what i was looking for. Never would had guessed what the E's and L's stood for.
I have read on this, trust me. Including the links that kingdazy provided. Although i will watch that youtube video to see what i can learn from it.
As i've said i've already root my Samsung E4G Touch flawlessly and i'm loving it, i was just wanting clarification on things.
My main question is.... If it has a different build, for instance mine is EL29, i would have to somehow get FC13 firmware on to my Samsung E4GT to flash any ICS ROM on to it, right? Either that, or whatever other firmware version the ROM instructions specify, i'm guessing.
I think the firmware is done using ODIN, right? I know i just used ODIN to flash an already rooted EL29 image..
But is CWM only used to install files from zips such as ROMs or stuff like Gapps?
Or does it depend entirely on the developers instructions? I know some dev leave out some instructions such as "use ODIN" or "use CWM" so when they do, i'm assuming i can use either or?
I DO see that they tend to tell you what NOT to use.. Like this one for CM9
"Using ODIN (link) flash to StockCWM EL26. Flashing CM9 from another recovery, such as Rogue, MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED"
Needed clarification as to whether or not i've been understanding what i've been reading. Overall, i'm just wanting to know if i'm on the right track. If you guys got any pointers or advice. I would greatly appreciate it.
And just FYI.... I do my research. I know how to read. I'm just not as familiar with these forums like you guys are and have problems finding things. You got to admit, sometimes performing searches require a little finesse and know how....
Anyway, Thanks a lot.
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To answer your first question (flash firmware first, and then the ROM) there isn't an easy answer as a lot of ROMs are complete systems which include the firmware. Some though are not and do require the correct firmware to work or install properly. From what I'm seeing, the ICS ROMs appear to all be full system ROM's meaning you wipe your phone and install and you're good. Some require additional files such as modems or whatever. But you could easily go from Gingerbread to the current stock version of ICS (which is what I'm using) with one simple flash.
The method you use to flash isn't specific to what you're flashing rather what the software was designed to be flashed with. Many developers prefer to use a recovery install (zips) while others use ODIN (tar). As I was coming from a stock software pack (and stock recovery) my only real option was an ODIN flash. Most of the time you cannot flash using the stock recovery. The software has to be signed by sprint in order for the stock recovery to flash a zip.
The most important things to be aware of in terms of those bricking their phones is be CERTAIN you are using software for YOUR phone. Not the Samsung Galaxy S2 but the specific one you use (in my case Epic 4G Touch which is Sprint). International files seem to do major damage. DO NOT stop the flash process mid-way through. I bricked a Samsung Moment that way and you have to go with your tail between your legs to the store. Avoid some of the ROM switchers and MobileODIN. They are great resources for an advanced phoner, death of a newb.
I would start with a basic stock flash through ODIN to ICS there are videos that make it pretty darn simple. Use it for a few days, figure out what you like and what frustrates you and then evaluate the ROMs to see if any might be better.
The Stock ICS I am using IS rooted but it's so stock that I will still receive the OTA (over-the-air) update from Sprint. So I have some bugs.
EDIT: OH LOL I just realized I'm in the Epic 4G Touch forum, I could've been more specific regarding the ROMs and what not I thought I was in a general forum.
exitprogram said:
Thanks. Thats what i was looking for. Never would had guessed what the E's and L's stood for.
I have read on this, trust me. Including the links that kingdazy provided. Although i will watch that youtube video to see what i can learn from it.
As i've said i've already root my Samsung E4G Touch flawlessly and i'm loving it, i was just wanting clarification on things.
My main question is.... If it has a different build, for instance mine is EL29, i would have to somehow get FC13 firmware on to my Samsung E4GT to flash any ICS ROM on to it, right? Either that, or whatever other firmware version the ROM instructions specify, i'm guessing.
I think the firmware is done using ODIN, right? I know i just used ODIN to flash an already rooted EL29 image..
But is CWM only used to install files from zips such as ROMs or stuff like Gapps?
Or does it depend entirely on the developers instructions? I know some dev leave out some instructions such as "use ODIN" or "use CWM" so when they do, i'm assuming i can use either or?
I DO see that they tend to tell you what NOT to use.. Like this one for CM9
"Using ODIN (link) flash to StockCWM EL26. Flashing CM9 from another recovery, such as Rogue, MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED"
Needed clarification as to whether or not i've been understanding what i've been reading. Overall, i'm just wanting to know if i'm on the right track. If you guys got any pointers or advice. I would greatly appreciate it.
And just FYI.... I do my research. I know how to read. I'm just not as familiar with these forums like you guys are and have problems finding things. You got to admit, sometimes performing searches require a little finesse and know how....
Anyway, Thanks a lot.
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I was wondering the same so don't feel stupid exitprogram. I too have read a lot, and the more I do the more confused I get. Frankly, I have no idea how to move forward.
I'm pretty noob with this phone, but have rooted my HTC Hero and flashed a few ROMS on it, rooted my et4g and installed starburst, even rooted and cm7ed my nook, but I'm very confused about the firmware version compatibility with ROMS for the ET4G. I've been waiting to see how the ICS ROMS are before doing anything further to my phone.
I'm sure you guys who replied must get tired with noobs asking the same old questions, but saying go read the internets ("Read Everything before flashing Anything.") isn't very helpful. I appreciate you taking the time to help, I really do, but it's frustrating.
You say to watch QBKing77 videos, and all will be revealed. Here is an example of what is confusing for me, one of QBKing77 videos
In the vid it says it's a FC06 ICS ROM. Then leads you through the format all and zip install. I have no problem doing that, but I have EG30, and I have no idea if following the above install procedure will update me to FC06 or will leave me with a brick and/or headache.
ok general rule for samsung at least, only use GB firmware (kernel) with GB roms (system), ICS with ICS... For the QBKing example, i didnt watch the vid, but usually he says where hes coming from. Odds are its EL29, the official stock, if you wanted to do what he did, get to the starting point he was on then go from there. Honestly I think a lot of this has been made really complicated with the ET4G, mainly because of all the leaks, all fifteen personalized recoveries, people demaning preference on CWM or Odin... on the OG Epic there werent THIS many leaks, and there was time to catch up the new people, now its insane. I think the CWM variants really only serve to complicate, example the Rom Manager works good for CM9 I guess, but not really at all for everything else, and Rogue doesnt work for CM9, but great for the regular stuff... too much redundancy. And honestly it isnt just Rogue and ACS, they just try to simplify Koush's CWM, but then Koush has Rom Manager and it says it supports our phone, but the temp recovery is iffy and dont even mess with the Touch Recovery.
Anyways, just follow OP instructions, give the search a shot so you can tell the trolls you did so (it usually yields nothing, google works better) and sift through the chit chat in the dev threads for the info. If its not there in 20 pages, and not in the OP, just ask... if someone figures something out after the thread is created, someone should let the OP know to update their thread. Some devs are in a hurry and forget to clarify things... it happens.
in general, .zips are flashed thru CWM, look/ask which one to use if not specified, .tar, .md5, .bin... all use Odin... look for which to use (the one-clicks are actually cool... make Odin easier till people get familiar with what goes where). I think once we get ICS official and the first onslaught of ROMs come out, things will settle down a lot.
Does anyone else notice those are bothe of epic and epic touch radios? Op be very careful not to make the mistake of flashing wrong ones
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ungovernable1977 said:
ok general rule for samsung at least, only use GB firmware (kernel) with GB roms (system), ICS with ICS... For the QBKing example, i didnt watch the vid, but usually he says where hes coming from. Odds are its EL29, the official stock, if you wanted to do what he did, get to the starting point he was on then go from there. Honestly I think a lot of this has been made really complicated with the ET4G, mainly because of all the leaks, all fifteen personalized recoveries, people demaning preference on CWM or Odin... on the OG Epic there werent THIS many leaks, and there was time to catch up the new people, now its insane. I think the CWM variants really only serve to complicate, example the Rom Manager works good for CM9 I guess, but not really at all for everything else, and Rogue doesnt work for CM9, but great for the regular stuff... too much redundancy. And honestly it isnt just Rogue and ACS, they just try to simplify Koush's CWM, but then Koush has Rom Manager and it says it supports our phone, but the temp recovery is iffy and dont even mess with the Touch Recovery.
Anyways, just follow OP instructions, give the search a shot so you can tell the trolls you did so (it usually yields nothing, google works better) and sift through the chit chat in the dev threads for the info. If its not there in 20 pages, and not in the OP, just ask... if someone figures something out after the thread is created, someone should let the OP know to update their thread. Some devs are in a hurry and forget to clarify things... it happens.
in general, .zips are flashed thru CWM, look/ask which one to use if not specified, .tar, .md5, .bin... all use Odin... look for which to use (the one-clicks are actually cool... make Odin easier till people get familiar with what goes where). I think once we get ICS official and the first onslaught of ROMs come out, things will settle down a lot.
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First of all. All of you suck and none of this information was helpful WHATSOEVER.
JK!
It's good to have received that the clarification as to what ODIN uses and what CWM uses. I was pretty much correct as far as that point goes, because no where inside of CWM does it have options for .tar files, etc...
Now, these modem firmwares, and all these other EL29, FC this and FU that (lol) can be a get confusing and i just want to be sure i do everything EXACTLY as they say it needs to be done, which of course means, don't ASSUME anything and always do your research and get clarification. Otherwise, you might end up with a $600 paperweight that reminds you of your stupidity on a daily basis when you look at it.
I appreciate all of your guys's input and i consider this is a great community.
Androidforums.com + XDA-Developers.com = Excellent resources and tools.
I'll admit i was in a bad mood and cussed out a MOD on androidforums one day, but its all good. People have bad days.... Hopefully that guy didn't take offense to the comments i made about his homosexuality lol. Won't happen again. I'll just beat up a co-worker instead haha.
Thanks again! NERD POWER!
Fyi we tell newbs to go read because that is how you learn....if you don't want to put the time into reading and learning you probably want a different phone..we all learned how to do things on this phone by reading and galaxy s3 will be similar so it's something most should do is read read read
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E is the year. E was 2011, F is 2012, etc.
L is the month. A=Jan, B=Feb, C=Mar, ... L = Dec
29 is the day so in EL29 would be dec 29th 2011
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ok general rule for samsung at least, only use GB firmware (kernel) with GB roms (system), ICS with ICS... For the QBKing example, i didnt watch the vid, but usually he says where hes coming from. Odds are its EL29, the official stock, if you wanted to do what he did, get to the starting point he was on then go from there. ...
I think once we get ICS official and the first onslaught of ROMs come out, things will settle down a lot.
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Thanks for the clarification. I'll take my phone back to stock and start again at some point. Think I'll still wait for the more finished ICS ROMs to play it safe. Some kind soul will no doubt write a howto for those less able among us.
Edit: decided to go back to stock and update to EL29 following the vid tut linked above. For anyone googling through, I was a little confused at one point but worked it out. Currently the EL29 file is a zip, inside is a .tar.md5 file which is what you select in Odin for the PDA box. Nice to know it's that easy... when you know how
SRF1.2 was a custom rom for old Epic based on froyo by MysteryEmotionz. It was based on the original work done by k0nane when CIQ was originally removed.

How does the GS3 compare to the Vibrant in terms of brickability?

Alright folks, this is directed more at the those that have spent a lot of time modding and flashing their GS3's. I recently got myself a GS3, and I gotta be honest, I haven't gotten the itch to customize it more than root yet because it is just that good already.
I modded the hell out of my Vibrant, constantly flashing Roms, modems, kernels, etc. Ran into a few "bumps" along the road where I thought the phone was done for, but I was always able to bring it back. For instance, a few months before I got the GS3 I was flashing a ROM and although I can't remember the details, something screwed up and I was getting the dreaded Phone to PC symbol. I have had this in the past and had a JIG that would always get me into download mode. This time however, it wouldn't work. I couldn't get ADB to send it into download, nor through the hardware keys, nor with the JIG. I thought for sure I was done for.
I decided to plug it into my computer anyway with ODIN up, and even though it wasn't in download mode, ODIN showed a "yellow COM". I said what is there to lose and so I loaded stock and hit start, lo and behold a few minutes later the ol' Vibrant was booting back up to the familiar sound of the T-Mobile jingle. I thoroughly believe that phone is unbrickable.
Now I know I'm going to get the itch sooner or later, especially as more and more ROM development ensues, but how brickable is the GS3? Anyone know if it's as "tough" as the Vibrant was in that respect, or is it quite a bit easier to brick? What is your experience with it so far?
If you flash am i9300 ROM, you will brick. That's about it.
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If you know how to read warnings and have a fully functional brain you won't brick.
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GS3 should be less likely to brick
I flashed an HTC Rom with the vibrant and was still able to get it back to functionality.. not completely for sure about the GS3. I know of someone that hardbricked their GS3, and they are actually getting close to fixing it, but not fully yet.. just read and flash what ur suppose to.
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I use to have a vibrant too. Then I switch to this. I am a flashaholic so far everything good . Havent have anu problem that odin cant fix.
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If you do eventually decide to fiddle around with your phone, here's some advice:
1. BACKUP YOUR IMEI. No one's 100% sure what causes it (though there are several theories regarding recoveries and wipe scripts). You can inject your IMEI if you don't have a backup but the process takes maybe 10 minutes and I feel like it would save alot of headaches. There are currently two methods. I recommend you do both and keep a copy of the backup files somewhere safe:
Method 1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808408
Method 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804123 (includes instructions on injecting an IMEI.
2. Try to stick to the thread for your particular GS3. I've heard that ATT Roms and kernels are compatible with the TMO version and vice versa. I take a little more comfort knowing a particular ROM or kernel was developed for my specific GS3 variant. Feel free to experiment with ROMS and kernels from other variants but be sure you know what they contain (be especially attentive to different modems/radios, see #3).
3. IMO the biggest source for bricking involves modems/radios. I haven't flashed any because I'm on wind and most of the new modems released have been for TMO. Flashing the wrong radio can brick your phone. Most ROMS don't flash a modem but it never hurts to ask. Be especially attentive to files that require ODIN as I believe some of these files may include modems and recoveries.
4. Since your posting on TMO forum, I'm going to assume yo have a TMO/Wind/Mobilicity variant of the phone. If your looking to root, I recommend using the method in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687. Simply download the image for your cell phone company and follow the instructions in OP. It's basically just flash with ODIN. Then install a recovery. You can install CWM using the method in the post. Or you can install TWRP by downloading the goo.im app and installing it with that application..
5. HAVE FUN
I used to have a vibrant as well and had a few close calls. I was always able to finally get it back. The S3 appears to be just as hearty (as long as you don't flash a i9300 rom).
Flash away.
nicky9door said:
If you do eventually decide to fiddle around with your phone, here's some advice:
1. BACKUP YOUR IMEI. No one's 100% sure what causes it (though there are several theories regarding recoveries and wipe scripts). You can inject your IMEI if you don't have a backup but the process takes maybe 10 minutes and I feel like it would save alot of headaches. There are currently two methods. I recommend you do both and keep a copy of the backup files somewhere safe:
Method 1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808408
Method 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804123 (includes instructions on injecting an IMEI.
2. Try to stick to the thread for your particular GS3. I've heard that ATT Roms and kernels are compatible with the TMO version and vice versa. I take a little more comfort knowing a particular ROM or kernel was developed for my specific GS3 variant. Feel free to experiment with ROMS and kernels from other variants but be sure you know what they contain (be especially attentive to different modems/radios, see #3).
3. IMO the biggest source for bricking involves modems/radios. I haven't flashed any because I'm on wind and most of the new modems released have been for TMO. Flashing the wrong radio can brick your phone. Most ROMS don't flash a modem but it never hurts to ask. Be especially attentive to files that require ODIN as I believe some of these files may include modems and recoveries.
4. Since your posting on TMO forum, I'm going to assume yo have a TMO/Wind/Mobilicity variant of the phone. If your looking to root, I recommend using the method in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687. Simply download the image for your cell phone company and follow the instructions in OP. It's basically just flash with ODIN. Then install a recovery. You can install CWM using the method in the post. Or you can install TWRP by downloading the goo.im app and installing it with that application..
5. HAVE FUN
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I did use that method for rooting already, but I didn't realize the issue with the IMEI so that's good to know for when I get the urge to start flashing again. :laugh:

[Q] SGH-T889v windmobile canada. PLEASE get in here.

Hey guys, sorry for posting this, but im desperate and have read until my eyes are falling out of my skull. I am willing to work with any dev if they need specific work/software ran/info to make this happen. Is there, or is there not clear concise directions on rooting SGH-T889v (wind mobile variant of note 2)?
remember we use AWS for our signal, the modem stuff is all different. this is were my expertise kinda falls short. BUT I AM WILLING TO HELP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. As far as iv'e seen there are no current methods of rooting this phone which is a damn shame considering its horsepower. i saw the all in one toolkit for note 2's, and i simply cannot afford to donate to unlock the functionality of the update that supports wind. So only ONE guy knows how? I believe dev's should get paid and should accept donations, they are the real workers and smart guys. I don't work for free either, However this kinda defeats the purpose of the ecosystem we fought so hard to have.... open and accessible platforms were we the users are in control. By with holding the method, its no longer donating, it's close sourcing ala apple,microsoft, etc. Zero offence to that guy, id just really love to "own" MY phone. Can someone PLEASE help? pass the word? anything? a peep?
gh0stpirate said:
Hey guys, sorry for posting this, but im desperate and have read until my eyes are falling out of my skull. I am willing to work with any dev if they need specific work/software ran/info to make this happen. Is there, or is there not clear concise directions on rooting SGH-T889v (wind mobile variant of note 2)?
remember we use AWS for our signal, the modem stuff is all different. this is were my expertise kinda falls short. BUT I AM WILLING TO HELP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. As far as iv'e seen there are no current methods of rooting this phone which is a damn shame considering its horsepower. i saw the all in one toolkit for note 2's, and i simply cannot afford to donate to unlock the functionality of the update that supports wind. So only ONE guy knows how? I believe dev's should get paid and should accept donations, they are the real workers and smart guys. I don't work for free either, However this kinda defeats the purpose of the ecosystem we fought so hard to have.... open and accessible platforms were we the users are in control. By with holding the method, its no longer donating, it's close sourcing ala apple,microsoft, etc. Zero offence to that guy, id just really love to "own" MY phone. Can someone PLEASE help? pass the word? anything? a peep?
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Who says there is no way....use donated version of toolkit ...its in there
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If you don't mind the flash counter, you could simply use an Odin flashable (N7100) CWM tar, push the superuser zip of your choosing to /data/media/ (linked to /sdcard/) and install that from CWM.
What I know is that the rooting part is all fine and dandy, sure its a little harder than the rest, but its okay, it not too hard. The problem I keep reading is that the ROMS aren't truly compatible with the device, as data become atrociously slow. A method one, respected fellow, recommended we take was to flash a modem that is "for" our device variant. I say that because people reported bootloops due to it. Also there's a greater chance for our device to lose its IMEI number...not sure if these problems have been resolved. But yeah your problem really isn't rooting its the whole deal afterwards, again I am going by what I've read, I myself do not wish to take the chance of it becoming unusable, so i stay far until I got time to research more and some brilliant helpful mind comes along and solves all problems.
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MCRHAZ said:
What I know is that the rooting part is all fine and dandy, sure its a little harder than the rest, but its okay, it not too hard. The problem I keep reading is that the ROMS aren't truly compatible with the device, as data become atrociously slow. A method one, respected fellow, recommended we take was to flash a modem that is "for" our device variant. I say that because people reported bootloops due to it. Also there's a greater chance for our device to lose its IMEI number...not sure if these problems have been resolved. But yeah your problem really isn't rooting its the whole deal afterwards, again I am going by what I've read, I myself do not wish to take the chance of it becoming unusable, so i stay far until I got time to research more and some brilliant helpful mind comes along and solves all problems.
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i think thats the issue, we just generally need someone more brilliant xD as per the "gentleman" that again, suggested using the donating kit, please re-read my post. whats this business about a flash counter????
darn shame still nothing regretting purchasing this phone completely due to this :/
I used the toolkit to root my N2 (Videotron T889v) without any problems. Just used the T-Mobile option since they are the same phone, just different software. The only difference is the modem from what I've read. Rooting does not change the modem that you currently have right now. If you decide you want to install a custom rom, then you may have to flash your modem back. I am currently using Jedi X rom without any problems and I can honestly say that it's faster than stock. He also provides a link with our modem so we can flash it after the install. All the T-Mobile software has been taken out, so you won't have to deal with any of it. Here are the links for the toolkit and rom.
Toolkit - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
Jedi X rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
There are 2 Jedi Roms available. Jedi X has the multi-window function working but no wifi calling. I believe the other is called Jedi Master and that one has wifi calling but no multi-window. I'm not sure if the wifi calling is a T-Mobile thing but I never installed that rom and can't really give much more info on it. In the end, you can always go back to stock if you're not satisfied. You can find a copy of your stock rom at sammobile. I would suggest making sure it's still available before doing anything.
As for the OP, this is my first time dealing with a flash counter although not my first time rooting. The flash counter is some type of software that Samsung puts in their phones to be able to tell if you have "tampered" with the phone's software. From what I've noticed, when you put your phone in the "download" state and install anything, that triggers the counter to rise. If you send your phone to Samsung for service and the counter is not 0, they will deny service since you would have broken your warranty. There is a program called Triangle Away that will return your counter back to 0, should you need to return the phone to Samsung. Although in my case it would only take it back down to 1 using their instructions. I finally got it back to 0 by adding an extra step. From what I've read, I think it depends on the kernel that you're using. Here is the link for the program.
Triangle Away - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
I'm not an expert on any of this, just trying to help. I can say that I've rooted, unrooted and reset my flash counter back to 0 along with my stock Videotron rom.
Good luck
JDLS said:
I used the toolkit to root my N2 (Videotron T889v) without any problems. Just used the T-Mobile option since they are the same phone, just different software. The only difference is the modem from what I've read. Rooting does not change the modem that you currently have right now. If you decide you want to install a custom rom, then you may have to flash your modem back. I am currently using Jedi X rom without any problems and I can honestly say that it's faster than stock. He also provides a link with our modem so we can flash it after the install. All the T-Mobile software has been taken out, so you won't have to deal with any of it. Here are the links for the toolkit and rom.
Toolkit - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
Jedi X rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
There are 2 Jedi Roms available. Jedi X has the multi-window function working but no wifi calling. I believe the other is called Jedi Master and that one has wifi calling but no multi-window. I'm not sure if the wifi calling is a T-Mobile thing but I never installed that rom and can't really give much more info on it. In the end, you can always go back to stock if you're not satisfied. You can find a copy of your stock rom at sammobile. I would suggest making sure it's still available before doing anything.
As for the OP, this is my first time dealing with a flash counter although not my first time rooting. The flash counter is some type of software that Samsung puts in their phones to be able to tell if you have "tampered" with the phone's software. From what I've noticed, when you put your phone in the "download" state and install anything, that triggers the counter to rise. If you send your phone to Samsung for service and the counter is not 0, they will deny service since you would have broken your warranty. There is a program called Triangle Away that will return your counter back to 0, should you need to return the phone to Samsung. Although in my case it would only take it back down to 1 using their instructions. I finally got it back to 0 by adding an extra step. From what I've read, I think it depends on the kernel that you're using. Here is the link for the program.
Triangle Away - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
I'm not an expert on any of this, just trying to help. I can say that I've rooted, unrooted and reset my flash counter back to 0 along with my stock Videotron rom.
Good luck
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so you flashed the modem that ptmr3 provided for the t889v along with his jedi x rom and all good is good? no signal issues ? you get hspa+?
First Post:
I'm on Wind Mobile T889v Note 2. And I cant wait for this phone to get rooted so that I can run debian or whatever have you full blow linux desktop experience on my phone.
The current limited version of android on its own is too limiting for the processing beast that this phone is.
MCRHAZ said:
so you flashed the modem that ptmr3 provided for the t889v along with his jedi x rom and all good is good? no signal issues ? you get hspa+?
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That is correct. Never had any issues whatsoever. Always get full signal strength, no disconnections and overall great service. As long as you flash after the rom, you will get your modem back. To be honest, the rom itself has never changed my modem, I always just flash it in case it's just reporting it as an error. In the directions it states that it will change it but I always check it and it has remained the same every time.
you mean by letting bootup and set up first then go back to twrp or cwm? and then flash the modem...my exams are done hoping to do it by tomorrow.
MCRHAZ said:
you mean by letting bootup and set up first then go back to twrp or cwm? and then flash the modem...my exams are done hoping to do it by tomorrow.
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After you flash the rom (if you're flashing Jedi) you need to let it sit for 10 minutes on the first boot up (after the android logo, just use the reboot option after the 10 minutes). Once you've booted up and finished your setup, just go back into cwm or twrp and flash the modem.
how did you reset the flash counter with triangle away? it doesnt seem to work on my 889V
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[Q] Rooting Questions

Hi, I have looked around for a while, but have not received direct answers to these questions, any help would be appreciated. I am not new to rooting since I have rooted and flashed my previous phone (HTC Wildfire S), but these questions were unanswered to me, irregardless of where I looked.
-First, I know that when you gain root access you may toy around with your phone, but by rooting your device do you damage it? I am concerned about this because when I had a Wildfire S I rooted it and within a week it had MAJOR bugs, without flashing or moving any setting.
-Second, how do you perform a nandroid backup? I know that this is kind of a safety net to your device if it ever gets soft-bricked, but how do you do it? I have not had a clear explanation on how to do it.
-Third, I know that CyanogenMod is one of the most stable custom ROMS that there is out there, but does it offer Pure Android?
-Fourth, if any of you know any good (and stable) custom ROMS for the T-Mobile Galaxy S3, could you send them to me please?
-Fifth, I know that with some ROMS you lose certain features (such as video playback in some ROMS, yeah I know sounds terrible) but if I flash a ROM that does support this, do I gain the feature back or do I lose the feature forever?
Going through the same process
amezcuaesteban said:
Hi, I have looked around for a while, but have not received direct answers to these questions, any help would be appreciated. I am not new to rooting since I have rooted and flashed my previous phone (HTC Wildfire S), but these questions were unanswered to me, irregardless of where I looked.
-First, I know that when you gain root access you may toy around with your phone, but by rooting your device do you damage it? I am concerned about this because when I had a Wildfire S I rooted it and within a week it had MAJOR bugs, without flashing or moving any setting.
-Second, how do you perform a nandroid backup? I know that this is kind of a safety net to your device if it ever gets soft-bricked, but how do you do it? I have not had a clear explanation on how to do it.
-Third, I know that CyanogenMod is one of the most stable custom ROMS that there is out there, but does it offer Pure Android?
-Fourth, if any of you know any good (and stable) custom ROMS for the T-Mobile Galaxy S3, could you send them to me please?
-Fifth, I know that with some ROMS you lose certain features (such as video playback in some ROMS, yeah I know sounds terrible) but if I flash a ROM that does support this, do I gain the feature back or do I lose the feature forever?
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I'm going through this same process now, and am new also--I rooted an old mytouch 3g slide and flashed CM7 on it. Afterwards it was bit buggy, but it was a bit buggy before too, hardware issues I think.
I think rooting in and of itself shouldn't mess up your phone, but if you don't do it correctly it could surely screw things up.
Do you have the T999 or T999L? which version will matter in terms of ROM flashing details (for example, I have the T999L, which is the LTE version)
Let me know of the progress you have on these questions!
I'm going through this same process now, and am new also--I rooted an old mytouch 3g slide and flashed CM7 on it. Afterwards it was bit buggy, but it was a bit buggy before too, hardware issues I think.
I think rooting in and of itself shouldn't mess up your phone, but if you don't do it correctly it could surely screw things up.
Do you have the T999 or T999L? which version will matter in terms of ROM flashing details (for example, I have the T999L, which is the LTE version)
Let me know of the progress you have on these questions!
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I unfortunately have the T999. I know that mine won't be able to get LTE which is sad, but is this something that I MUST look into before flashing a ROM? Like are the t999 and T999L that different, I mean it is ONE chip.
amezcuaesteban said:
I unfortunately have the T999. I know that mine won't be able to get LTE which is sad, but is this something that I MUST look into before flashing a ROM? Like are the t999 and T999L that different, I mean it is ONE chip.
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It's something to be aware of. I believe most of the T-mobile gs3 ROMS are built with the T999 in mind though, so you shouldn't really worry too much.
DocHOliday77's thread [INFO] [FAQ] Galaxy S3 w/ LTE - SGH-T999L & SGH-T999N points to some discrepancies between the T999 and T999L though
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amezcuaesteban said:
Hi, I have looked around for a while, but have not received direct answers to these questions, any help would be appreciated. I am not new to rooting since I have rooted and flashed my previous phone (HTC Wildfire S), but these questions were unanswered to me, irregardless of where I looked.
-First, I know that when you gain root access you may toy around with your phone, but by rooting your device do you damage it? I am concerned about this because when I had a Wildfire S I rooted it and within a week it had MAJOR bugs, without flashing or moving any setting.
Rooting does nothing but give you SuperUser access to your phone. That is literally all it does. Now what you do with it can cause major headaches.
-Second, how do you perform a nandroid backup? I know that this is kind of a safety net to your device if it ever gets soft-bricked, but how do you do it? I have not had a clear explanation on how to do it.
Install a custom recovery such as TWRP or Clockwork (CWR), then boot into recovery via key combo (Power+VolDown+Home, see blue light at top left and release the keys). From there you will see how Back Up/Restore options.
-Third, I know that CyanogenMod is one of the most stable custom ROMS that there is out there, but does it offer Pure Android?
Many ROMs out there. Just need to read the OPs for what you want.
-Fourth, if any of you know any good (and stable) custom ROMS for the T-Mobile Galaxy S3, could you send them to me please?
Not allowed and don't ask this type of question. All it ever turns into is an EPeen contest and will surely get the thread closed down.
-Fifth, I know that with some ROMS you lose certain features (such as video playback in some ROMS, yeah I know sounds terrible) but if I flash a ROM that does support this, do I gain the feature back or do I lose the feature forever?
This is exactly what a Nandroid backup is for. Something that you don't like or something borks, then just boot into recovery and restore your last working ROM backup. Kind of the point. Not sure I have ever heard of a ROM losing video playback as all are pretty much optimized nowadays.
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el_garicimo said:
I'm going through this same process now, and am new also--I rooted an old mytouch 3g slide and flashed CM7 on it. Afterwards it was bit buggy, but it was a bit buggy before too, hardware issues I think.
I think rooting in and of itself shouldn't mess up your phone, but if you don't do it correctly it could surely screw things up.
Do you have the T999 or T999L? which version will matter in terms of ROM flashing details (for example, I have the T999L, which is the LTE version)
Let me know of the progress you have on these questions!
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See my part above about Rooting. You are correct in that it doesn't affect anything whatsoever. It is what you do with it.
I am pretty sure that most are based off T999 code and in order to have the LTE, you have to flash the LTE modem. Might want to ask Doc about that as he has/had the T999L.
Also, CM7 was a long time ago and things have massively progress since then.
amezcuaesteban said:
I unfortunately have the T999. I know that mine won't be able to get LTE which is sad, but is this something that I MUST look into before flashing a ROM? Like are the t999 and T999L that different, I mean it is ONE chip.
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See my reply above.
el_garicimo said:
It's something to be aware of. I believe most of the T-mobile gs3 ROMS are built with the T999 in mind though, so you shouldn't really worry too much.
DocHOliday77's thread [INFO] [FAQ] Galaxy S3 w/ LTE - SGH-T999L & SGH-T999N points to some discrepancies between the T999 and T999L though
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Info regarding what can be flashed to VZW M9's

Hey guys, this is my first HTC device. I've been reading through the threads here and in the intl forum and I just wanted to get a little info in one place as to what we can flash for this device. I sent mine off to someone with a Java Card, so now that I'm good to go, I wanted to see what all I (and other VZW users) can do at this early stage in the game. I know that until there is an easier way to S-Off/root/etc than sending your device to someone it is still kinda rocky as to development on this particular device, but I've heard mixed reviews on what ROMs/kernels are good to flash.
I assume that as long as I've got a custom recovery, flashing ROMs on this device would be the same as the other devices I've used... just pick the file in TWRP and flash, right?
As far as ROMs go, I've read that ViperOne works, along with InsertCoin with nothing extra.. just flash and go apparently. As for other ROMs, a little editing and some files from the stock VZW ROM should make them work, right? What files exactly would be needed?
Basically, if you've flashed anything, post your results here. What works, what doesn't, anything I should do before I start flashing myself. Any good threads I should read before I jump in. Thanks guys!
I have a thread about the roms in this forum named VZW M9 roms.
Basically the ones you've named I've tried with success. Also LeeDrOiD rom added Verizon support today. Build 7.5.
jtommyj said:
I have a thread about the roms in this forum named VZW M9 roms.
Basically the ones you've named I've tried with success. Also LeeDrOiD rom added Verizon support today. Build 7.5.
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I never claimed to be a genius I've read through your thread, that's where I got the ROMs that worked... My brain wasn't working at full capacity when I made the thread. Thanks.
That being said though, lets assume that a soft-brick occurs. How would one go about fixing that? In my experience with the S4 and the device I had previous to that, it was simple to fix a soft-brick as long as I still had recovery access. Would the same be true for the M9? What about reverting to stock.. as in stock recovery, firmware, etc. Also, from what I've seen, adb tends to be used a bit more for this device than others that I'm used to. Not that I have a problem with it, I just haven't used it very much and will likely have to brush up a little bit on the nuances of it. I just don't want to create a $650 paperweight so I want to be absolutely sure that what I'm doing can be fixed, and that I avoid doing things that CAN'T be fixed.
lordcheeto03 said:
I never claimed to be a genius I've read through your thread, that's where I got the ROMs that worked... My brain wasn't working at full capacity when I made the thread. Thanks.
That being said though, lets assume that a soft-brick occurs. How would one go about fixing that? In my experience with the S4 and the device I had previous to that, it was simple to fix a soft-brick as long as I still had recovery access. Would the same be true for the M9? What about reverting to stock.. as in stock recovery, firmware, etc. Also, from what I've seen, adb tends to be used a bit more for this device than others that I'm used to. Not that I have a problem with it, I just haven't used it very much and will likely have to brush up a little bit on the nuances of it. I just don't want to create a $650 paperweight so I want to be absolutely sure that what I'm doing can be fixed, and that I avoid doing things that CAN'T be fixed.
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Well first thing you need to have a custom recovery flashed.
Then you would need to backup your stock system. If you are in a soft brick then volume up and power being held at the same time should get you out of it.
There should not be a need to refresh firmware since the original firmware is all we have. I do believe an Ruu is being worked on currently.
Final word- if you're unsure,don't!!

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