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Hey guys I was wondering if anyone knew what network modernization meant for us as phone buyers. I am really interested in picking up an S3, but want to continue to use my web2go/tzones plan. I was considering buying either an AT&T or international version and saw http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/06/14/fast-progress-on-4g-network-modernization/ this article and was wondering the implications. Will the 1900 replace the 1700 in HSPA+? Does that mean phones that work on AT&T(1900/2100) will now work on Tmobile(1700/2100)?
Thanks for any info you guys can provide!
That is correct. Once the refarm is complete we will be able to use phones with the international att bands at full speeds on tmobile. 1700/2100 will be used for LTE
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I would not get the AT&T or International version just yet. It is quite likely that you will experience slow speeds due to lack of proper frequency support at this time. Eventually T-Mobile's HSPA will be moved over to the 1900 band, however, this is a transition, not a on/off type of thing. There will still be HSPA on 1700 bands for well over a year from now, probably more like two. I think it will be a mix of 1900/1700 bands for HSPA in a couple of years, with LTE in the 1700 band exclusively. So, if you get the AT&T version now, you should hope that your city or region is one of the first for the transition, and don't plan to have good support while traveling. If you are on T-Mobile, you will have to choose great HSPA support now with no LTE ever (T-Mobile version), or no HSPA support now, and maybe some mixed LTE and HSPA support down the road (AT&T version; no LTE on International version).
I would personally get the T-Mobile version if I were you. LTE is not going away, and there will be plenty of LTE phones on T-Mobile in a couple of years. But HSPA has great speeds now, and will still have decent speeds in a couple of years.
The T-Mobile version already supports HSPA+ over 1900 MHz..so it's ready if you're planning on using it on Tmobile.
Just when I thought about dumping T-Mobile, looks like they might be heading in the right direction.
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Is anyone using the international version of the Note 2 (Which I gather has the model number N7100) on T-mobile in the US? I am only interested in makign sure HSPA+ "4G" speeds will work for me.
In case originating country matters, I am looking to import from India.
The 3g speed will not work on T-mobile only edge. I am using At&t and I am having hspa+.
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kojaraty said:
The 3g speed will not work on T-mobile only edge. I am using At&t and I am having hspa+.
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Have you tried using it? The 7100 specs show support for 2100 band o 3G and wikipedia says T-Mobile runs on 1700/2100 for 3G. Do both bands need to be supported for it to work?
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Have you tried using it? The 7100 specs show support for 2100 band o 3G and wikipedia says T-Mobile runs on 1700/2100 for 3G. Do both bands need to be supported for it to work?
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Yes, TMo US uses a split AWS band 1700/2100 for 3G and needs both to work.
However, in some cities TMo has refarmed some spectrum at 1900MHz for 3G use, and if you are lucky enough to be in one, you would get 3G.
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Dave
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Have you tried using it? The 7100 specs show support for 2100 band o 3G and wikipedia says T-Mobile runs on 1700/2100 for 3G. Do both bands need to be supported for it to work?
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For t-mobile USA, their HSPA+ network (or 4G you called) use AWS band, which refers to 1700/2100. The international version N7100 is UMTS/HSPA 800/850/1900/2100. This N7100 is missing the t-mobile USA magic number 1700. So you will not get their HSPA+ speed.
However, with recent t-mobile project on refarming their PCS1900 frequency in the US, the N7100 will work on HSPA+ network, BUT not at current moment in all states. Only specific cities such as Las Vegas, NV will work.
T-mobile USA promised the PCS1900 band will fully operate by end of 2012, so i would say NO for now, but yes in year 2013.
It will depend on how long you would like to wait but t-mobile does have galaxy note 2 (model SGH-T889) which might start selling on October 24, 2012.
Side Note - October 24, 2012 is a big day for US people who want galaxy note 2 as this is the day Samsung Mobile Electronics USA makes for the US Launch events in New York City for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 for all 5 US major wireless carriers. :good::good::good::good::good:
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Yes, TMo US uses a split AWS band 1700/2100 for 3G and needs both to work.
However, in some cities TMo has refarmed some spectrum at 1900MHz for 3G use, and if you are lucky enough to be in one, you would get 3G.
Regards,
Dave
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For t-mobile USA, their HSPA+ network (or 4G you called) use AWS band, which refers to 1700/2100. The international version N7100 is UMTS/HSPA 800/850/1900/2100. This N7100 is missing the t-mobile USA magic number 1700. So you will not get their HSPA+ speed.
However, with recent t-mobile project on refarming their PCS1900 frequency in the US, the N7100 will work on HSPA+ network, BUT not at current moment in all states. Only specific cities such as Las Vegas, NV will work.
T-mobile USA promised the PCS1900 band will fully operate by end of 2012, so i would say NO for now, but yes in year 2013.
It will depend on how long you would like to wait but t-mobile does have galaxy note 2 (model SGH-T889) which might start selling on October 24, 2012.
Side Note - October 24, 2012 is a big day for US people who want galaxy note 2 as this is the day Samsung Mobile Electronics USA makes for the US Launch events in New York City for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 for all 5 US major wireless carriers. :good::good::good::good::good:
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the input. Gives me a better idea of what I am looking at. I spoke to T-Mobile and it looks like my area does not have 3G on 1900/2100 as yet. (Though a couple of towns close by seem to have gotten it recently).
I was looking at getting the phone quickly as I am stuck with a Nokia N9 with a cracked screen and need a new phone.
I really dislike the T-mobile branding on the phone. Are there any other issues like locked Bootloader or T-Mobile bloatware I should be worried about? And do they sell unlocked versions from day one?
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the input. Gives me a better idea of what I am looking at. I spoke to T-Mobile and it looks like my area does not have 3G on 1900/2100 as yet. (Though a couple of towns close by seem to have gotten it recently).
I was looking at getting the phone quickly as I am stuck with a Nokia N9 with a cracked screen and need a new phone.
I really dislike the T-mobile branding on the phone. Are there any other issues like locked Bootloader or T-Mobile bloatware I should be worried about? And do they sell unlocked versions from day one?
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well, in my opinion i would say i will get the t-mobile branded t-mobile galaxy note II. Reason why is the FCC report for SGH-T899 shows it is LTE ready. N7100 is LTE capable, but you wont be able to use T-mobile LTE network when they finsihed deploying. Again, T-mobile LTE magic number is 700 and 1700 for their LTE band frequency. I am not exactly sure if N7100 has 700 mhz band, but if not, then it will be stuck in HSPA+ while others can enjoy the LTE speed.
Yes, SGH-T899 does have t-mobile bloatware, and bootloader might be unlocked but since you are in this forum, so i am sure great developers in this forum can get easily fixed.
They dun sell unlocked version, but if you are the t-mobile primary account holder, you can call them for the unlock code. They will email you unlock code and instruction with 48 hours.
Side Note - N7100 UMTS/HSPA max speed is 21Mbps. T-mobile branded SGH-T899 is 42.2Mbps max speed for HSPA+.
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Is anyone using the international version of the Note 2 (Which I gather has the model number N7100) on T-mobile in the US? I am only interested in makign sure HSPA+ "4G" speeds will work for me.
In case originating country matters, I am looking to import from India.
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I am currently using my GT-I9300 on T-Mobile's 1900 band in Las Vegas and i'm getting "ok" speeds of about 4-6mbps down and 1mbps up in certain areas and at certain times. For example during night time i get that speed but throughout the day i get 2-4 down and 1 up. It's ok, not that great...not awful either but it works. I'm honestly tired of having a beast phone with a crap internet connection. Take the bad with the good if you can.
I'm a little confused. I thought (and was pretty sure) N7100 does not support 4G LTE.
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pvc104 said:
Is anyone using the international version of the Note 2 (Which I gather has the model number N7100) on T-mobile in the US? I am only interested in makign sure HSPA+ "4G" speeds will work for me.
In case originating country matters, I am looking to import from India.
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Hi, I am.
I live in the DC area and usually get h+. Only problem is that when I am moving around and going into an area that hasn't been refarmed, I pass to edge...
It got so annoying that I bought a nexus 4 and started using that, which always worked on h+ seamlessly.
Too bad I got tired of it after two weeks and went back to the note2! I'm hoping that tmobile will improve the areas it covers with h+...
EDGE only
njfpolyr6 said:
For t-mobile USA, their HSPA+ network (or 4G you called) use AWS band, which refers to 1700/2100. The international version N7100 is UMTS/HSPA 800/850/1900/2100. This N7100 is missing the t-mobile USA magic number 1700. So you will not get their HSPA+ speed.
However, with recent t-mobile project on refarming their PCS1900 frequency in the US, the N7100 will work on HSPA+ network, BUT not at current moment in all states. Only specific cities such as Las Vegas, NV will work.
T-mobile USA promised the PCS1900 band will fully operate by end of 2012, so i would say NO for now, but yes in year 2013.
It will depend on how long you would like to wait but t-mobile does have galaxy note 2 (model SGH-T889) which might start selling on October 24, 2012.
Side Note - October 24, 2012 is a big day for US people who want galaxy note 2 as this is the day Samsung Mobile Electronics USA makes for the US Launch events in New York City for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 for all 5 US major wireless carriers. :good::good::good::good::good:
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I wish this was true..I have a Galaxy Note II GT-N7105T:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - N7105
4G Network LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2600 - N7105
I live in an area in Las Vegas where 1900 is supposedly refarmed but I am only still getting EDGE.
I will be finishing my contract with VZ in about 2 months and I have seriously been considering getting a R800at (AT&T Xperia PLAY) and unlocking the bootloader to also remove the simlock. So that I can use it on T-Mobile here where I live. VZ has sucky service in my area and I hate them anyways.
My question is are there anyone people here using the AT&T 4G (I know its not 4G but 3.5G Xperia PLAY) on T-Mobile and with TMo converting their 2G to AT&T 3G compatibility are you able to use the 3G service on your PLAYs?
I know the service coverage is all subjective to where you live, just curious if anyone is doing this and what their feedback / thoughts are on it.
Thank you in advance
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I will be finishing my contract with VZ in about 2 months and I have seriously been considering getting a R800at (AT&T Xperia PLAY) and unlocking the bootloader to also remove the simlock. So that I can use it on T-Mobile here where I live. VZ has sucky service in my area and I hate them anyways.
My question is are there anyone people here using the AT&T 4G (I know its not 4G but 3.5G Xperia PLAY) on T-Mobile and with TMo converting their 2G to AT&T 3G compatibility are you able to use the 3G service on your PLAYs?
I know the service coverage is all subjective to where you live, just curious if anyone is doing this and what their feedback / thoughts are on it.
Thank you in advance
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I have the R800a on T-mobile USA and im stuck on Edge which is 2g. If you want 4G or 3.5G for your play your stuck with At&t otherwise if you go to t-mobile usa your stuck with 2g on your R800at the same boat as me.
I get 4g fine with an att sim on straight talk but sadly only 2g with t mobile sim. Suppose it doesn't matter to me though since in using r800i firmware. Stuck on 3g
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CrypticRook said:
I get 4g fine with an att sim on straight talk but sadly only 2g with t mobile sim. Suppose it doesn't matter to me though since in using r800i firmware. Stuck on 3g
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Straight supports at&t frequences and towers.
ozzmanj1 said:
I will be finishing my contract with VZ in about 2 months and I have seriously been considering getting a R800at (AT&T Xperia PLAY) and unlocking the bootloader to also remove the simlock. So that I can use it on T-Mobile here where I live. VZ has sucky service in my area and I hate them anyways.
My question is are there anyone people here using the AT&T 4G (I know its not 4G but 3.5G Xperia PLAY) on T-Mobile and with TMo converting their 2G to AT&T 3G compatibility are you able to use the 3G service on your PLAYs?
I know the service coverage is all subjective to where you live, just curious if anyone is doing this and what their feedback / thoughts are on it.
Thank you in advance
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Have you considered using your 800X on another CDMA network instead of buying an 800AT?
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Have you considered using your 800X on another CDMA network instead of buying an 800AT?
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No. Most of my family has switched to tmobile. That and I can get an awesome rate as I have a relative who can hook us up n
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No. Most of my family has switched to tmobile. That and I can get an awesome rate as I have a relative who can hook us up n
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An awesome rate stuck on 2G doesn't sound worth it to me.
I would look into: Sprint, Boost Mobile, Metro PCS.
(Not sure if Virgin Mobile and Straight Talk are CDMA tho)
There's a list of current locations where T-Mobile support the 1900MHz band, you'll have to check it to make sure you're in one of those area, and to be on the safe side, not on the edge but within the city zone. http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/t-mobile
I live in Miami which is one of the supported location so I did exactly that. I cancelled my LG Nexus 4 preorder since it's taking a long time to ship and bought an R800i, talk about vast gap in performance. I will report on it once it get here, but I'm already certain it'll work in my area since already tested it on other devices.
Not sure if it's possible to unlock the R800at through Sony website method though.
I'm using the $30 100min and 5gb T-Mobile plan, usually keep an extra $10 deposited which give an extra 100min, and using the Vonage app to make free outgoing VoIP call.
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*Edit Note: R800i do not work on ATT nor T-Mobile 3G!
eksasol said:
There's a list of current locations where T-Mobile support the 1900MHz band, you'll have to check it to make sure you're in one of those area, and to be on the safe side, not on the edge but within the city zone. http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/t-mobile
I live in Miami which is one of the supported location so I did exactly that. I cancelled my LG Nexus 4 preorder since it's taking a long time to ship and bought an R800i, talk about vast gap in performance. I will report on it once it get here, but I'm already certain it'll work in my area since already tested it on other devices.
Not sure if it's possible to unlock the R800at through Sony website method though.
I'm using the $30 100min and 5gb T-Mobile plan, usually keep an extra $10 deposited which give an extra 100min, and using the Vonage app to make free outgoing VoIP call.
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My brother works for HP, but knows the Utah state Region Director. (Southern ID, and UT) With the deal I would be able to get a plan with 5 lines, 3 with 500 minutes and up to 5gb of data on each, then 200 minutes on the last two phones with only 200mb of data. As it would only be my wife and I, we would be able to set it up for about $45 for both phones with the 500 each, and 5gb of data for about $50-55 a month. Currently we are paying $120 a month for VZ and its service blows.
Yes, currently where I live there is no converted 2G from T-Mobile but eventually it will roll out. I am pretty sure I can live with 2G until its converted, couldnt be any slower then VZ where I live (50-70kbps)
Did some digging, this is T-Mobile USA's spectrum chart for 2G
850 MHz/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA 2G/3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G
AT&T Spectrum
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
I realize that T-Mobile service is again, subjective, but I really do love this phone and despite borrowing a S3 for about a week, and a couple other phones, I really just dont have a strong desire to jump to another phone. I really enjoy this phone for what it was designed, gaming. And each time i use a a phone to play touchscreen gaming I want to scream.
On a side note, the Region Director did mention that he estimate sometime between second to 3rd quarter of next year where I live we should go live on the 2G conversion.
Actually 2G atleast on T-Mobile is more like average of 20-30kbps, at least from my experience. You will be able to use email and xda app, and slow webbrowsing, and Google Maps. Downloading apps from the Play Store is out of the question unless its small or you want to wait long.
Edit Note: Actually the speed is faster at 80-100kbps after speedtest.
I was considering rebuying the unlocked version of the S3 as well because of this 1900mhz support, but then there is a thread in its forum with tons of people S3 having hardware death.
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Actually 2G atleast on T-Mobile is more like average of 20-30kbps, at least from my experience. You will be able to use email and xda app, and slow webbrowsing, and Google Maps. Downloading apps from the Play Store is out of the question unless its small or you want to wait long.
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As I am always around wifi, at home and or at work (I work about 60 hours a week) I dont generally download from the PLAY store via 3G. And its not VZ's terribly slow data that driving me nuts its their service, I have had so many dropped calls, my wife too (Droid X)
But I guess what I am asking is, when the conversion is completed in my area, would I then be able to have 3G on this device? I guess we wont know for sure until it happens, but again T-Mobile did start converting it to give unlocked iphones on their service 3G.... and to free up spectrum for the planned rollout of their own LTE network.
I will let you know when I get my R800i in a few days, but I'm pretty certain of it. Many people have been utilizing this such as ATT iPhone owners and T-Mobile 3G worked on my Samsung Captivate.
Edit Note: Found out the R800i do not work with ATT nor T-Mobile 3G, but an unlocked R800at does.
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I will let you know when I get my R800i in a few days, buy I'm pretty certain of it. Many people have been utilizing this such as ATT iPhone owners and T-Mobile 3G worked on my Samsung Captivate.
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You mention R800i. While I am looking at the R800at. Should I be looking into the R800i rather then the R800at for T-Mobile in the USA?
Also any feedback you can provide when you get your R800i would be appreciated.
Here is whats listed as the bands for the R800i:
Band
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband)
So guessing that with those bands in mind I should be looking into the R800i if I want to utilize T-Mobile USA's 3G network, and perhaps even maybe their 3.5...?
Actually the bands you listed are GSM bands, GSM are 2G.
The 3G bands for ATT and on the R800at are: 850/1900/2100MHz. Either having 850 and/or 1900 + 2100 support will get you 3G.
For T-Mobile, 3G bands are: 1700/2100 (known as AWS or UMTS). Some area have support for 1900 like we discussed. This is where the interlap come in and where unlocked phones that support 1900/2100 bands can get 3G on both T-Mobile and ATT.
There are different levels of 3G, the coverage area might be different. Lowest level usually is UMTS, have the widest coverage and use less battery, but slowest speed, I usually get an average of 3Mbps. Then there is HSPA and HSPA+, which have a large range of speed depending on the version (check Wikipedia). T-Mobile have Dual Cell HSPA which have theoretical capability of 42Mbps, but realistically you will get half of that, and not all devices support it, I get up to 26Mbps with this, outdoor and close to the cell tower of course. From experience, I find T-Mobile obviously have faster 3G speed, but sometimes poorer building penetration.
The Play support: HSDPA 7.2Mbps and HSUPA 5.76Mbps, so that's the max speed this device will be getting on 3G.
You can check the device specs on gsmarena.com for bands support, but they are not always accurate so beware.
This is also why I recommend Nexus phones, because the last two Nexus are pentaband 3G devices, which mean they can get 3G on every GSM carrier in the world. There are few pentaband devices and fewer good pentaband phones.
Well I got my R800i, but disappointingly it doesn't get 3G with T-Mobile, but I checked the spec again and it seem the R800i only support the HSDPA 900 / 2100 bands, I didn't realize this sooner since all other international phones I have bought do support the 1900 band so I just assumed.
But the AT&T version do support the 1900 / 2100 bands, so I'm still confident if you buy that version and figure out how to unlock it, you will be able to get 3G on T-Mobile in the 1900MHz supported areas.
I did a speedtest of the 2G speed and I get around 80-100kbps download speed. So about 10kilobytes per second.
Side note, on the dialer, you can dial: *#*#4636#*#* which will bring you to a menu where you can set which band the phone will use, although it is labeled by region (you'll have to press the Menu button to bring up the option).
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Well I got my R800i, but disappointingly it doesn't get 3G with T-Mobile, but I checked the spec again and it seem the R800i only support the HSDPA 900 / 2100 bands, I didn't realized this sooner since all other international phones I have bought do support the 1900 bands so I just assumed.
But the ATT version do support the 1900 / 2100 band, so I am still confident if you buy that version and figure out how to unlock it, you will be able to get 3G on T-Mobile in the 1900MHz supported areas.
I did a speedtest of the 2G speed and I get around 80-100kbps download speed. So about 10kilobytes per second.
Side note, on the dialer, you can dial: *#*#4636#*#* which will bring you to a menu where you can set which band the phone will use, although it is labeled by region.
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Thank you for the info and thank you for clarifying.
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So after that I went on ebay looking for an unlocked R800at. Found one, not great price, but it was at a pawn shop 1.5miles from my house so I picked it up.
Here are the results: (see attached images).
Somethings I found:
-You have to search for the network operators and select specifically the 3G T-Mobile network. Might need to manually enter the APN for data/mms to work.
-With stock AT&T rom, I only seem to see the phone switching between E (2G) and H+. Since HSPA+ coverage isn't as abundant and you might see the signal deteriorate quickly depending on your location coverage. Edit: I see the 3G and H logo with R800i rom, may be it was just cosmetic?
-With stock AT&T rom, I can't seem to log into Google's Market at all regardless with Data or WiFi while using the T-Mobile sim. Maybe a limitation ATT specifically put in? But this is no problem after flashing another rom.
-As expected, Bootloader Status: Not_Rootable. So I can not get into fastboot mode meaning it require the test point method to unlock the bootloader. Still, I can easily flash the R800i ftf which will allow the NXT rom to be bootable (the ftf that work for me is the R800i_4.0.2.A.0.58_Enhanced). Then root it using "SuperOneClick", had to use x-Parts's CWM installer version 5 to correctly install cwm.
Still will have to fiddle with it more to see what else I can find. As for the R800i I will have to suck up the 15% restocking fee.
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I have the R800a on T-mobile USA and im stuck on Edge which is 2g. If you want 4G or 3.5G for your play your stuck with At&t otherwise if you go to t-mobile usa your stuck with 2g on your R800at the same boat as me.
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How did you unlock it for use with t-mobile? I searched the forums to no avail. The only way I can find is to use a code you have to buy or you have to request through at&t and I don't have at&t so they won't provide me with one.
I can find ways to unlock the bootloader... is that the same thing?
Sorry I'm not familiar with sony ericsson
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How did you unlock it for use with t-mobile? I searched the forums to no avail. The only way I can find is to use a code you have to buy or you have to request through at&t and I don't have at&t so they won't provide me with one.
I can find ways to unlock the bootloader... is that the same thing?
Sorry I'm not familiar with sony ericsson
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With the code your thinking of the sim unlock. Which you can get from AT&T, if you want the bootloader unlocked you need to get in touch with Alejandrissimo to unlock it... its a free service he offers.
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Hey guys! I brought my international GT-N7105 Note II LTE model from Asia and bought that unlimited cheap 30 dollar plan. I checked the towers and my area does have those refarmed 1900MHz towers from their twitter. Anyhow, first i just thought it was my house and I have drove from pasadena-los angeles - Irvine - Orange County and have yet to see ANY 3G/H/H+ signals! Always stuck on the E (2G). First I thought it was the SIM problem so I put that SIM to an iPHONE4 and guess what?! There is the T-Mobile 3G right on that upper left hand corner and speeds are decent. Anywhere from 1.5mbps-6mbps. I'm sure it can go higher but looking at that dinky screen is already enough for my eyes! Is there some specific settings I should be doing? Somehow it's NOT locking to the 3G towers from my N7105. I am planning to get Straight Talk's 45 dollar deal at Walmart and choose the ATT since it's got better coverage from what I hear. Thanks for the help in advance and Happy Holidays everybody!!!
I don't think the 7105 has 1900 band, I have 7100 and I get 3G coverage.
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I don't think the 7105 has 1900 band, I have 7100 and I get 3G coverage.
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Thanks for the reply but according to this: http://www.smartone.com/jsp/phone/english/detail_v12.jsp?id=2553
It should have 1900MHz just like the N7100 except there's LTE which won't work. There's absolutely no excuse for it NOT to have 3G! This stinks and is frustrating!
I see that it has 1900 band but under GSM, when looking at 3G bands it has HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - N7105 vs N7100 having HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Dont know if it makes any difference but thats why I steered away from the LTE version.
Try this go into service mode: *#197328640# Debug screen Phone Control Network Control & Band Selection. Check if you can enable or see if you have the 1900 band under WCDMA. Might have to go under Combi Bands and select the desired bands.
Just flowing up if it worked out for u or not?
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Bumping this since the op didn't respond. I am having the same trouble and I attempted the fix you provided and found that my N7105 lacks the "combi bands"
I mistakenly purchased this phone for pre-paid here in America (should have gotten the n7100) and it seems that Straight Talk doesn't have AT&T cards anymore and I'm stuck on T-Mobile's EDGE service
I have the verizon model and use it with tmobile
So the last two weeks have been the most frustratying and nerve racking weeks ever as I have tried to get tmobile service to work well with the verizon model i have. And although I am definately still irritated, i have to say that I do get 3G and HSDPA on mine, just not anywhere near my house. This has driven me crazy and until today I assumed it was my phone and the lack of certain bands howev er after purchasing a Tmobile 4G hotspot and activating it on a new 300mb plan just to see how well it works, I have found that it was never my phone that sucked at my hopuse, its Tmobiles service that sucks!. BUT... to get the best consistant coverage with the Tmobile sim in my Verizon model I did have to experiment with the APNs quite a bit, and I also upgraded the modem to the newest one released . For anyone tryinbg to do thius with the verizon model, make sure your APN for T-Mobile US or T-Mobile Data (I personally have started using it as T-Mobile Data) has "None" typed in for the username and for APN if your using LTE device type in "fast.tmobile.com" instead of the epc.tmobile...... or whatever it is. Does anyone know if flashing a modem or radio or even just the rom from the tmobile section would help at all? Or would it just **** up the phone..
Despite not getting 3g (since I lack the appropriate physical antenna apparently) I get way better cover with T-Mobile (through Straight Talk) I have to say compared to Verizon. Maybe my Note 2 is much better than my old Thunderbolt or maybe T-Mobile is just a bit better. Nevertheless every building at my university is made of reinforced concrete so you'd be hard pressed to get any reception in the classrooms. I find in places I had no service I have service, and places I had some service I have great service now.
Back on topic though:
I can get the 1900mhz through GSM but that isn't the same and my phone lacks whatever that Combi Bands thing is. So I don't know if it is a lost cause or not. I just figured I'd bring this back up since the OP never responded and I am in the same boat as they are (were?). Maybe a solution can be found or just "it ain't gonna work."
Just following up I have returned my N7105 in favor of a N7100 and get great H+ and 3G through T-Mobile/Straight Talk.
moff3tt said:
Bumping this since the op didn't respond. I am having the same trouble and I attempted the fix you provided and found that my N7105 lacks the "combi bands"
I mistakenly purchased this phone for pre-paid here in America (should have gotten the n7100) and it seems that Straight Talk doesn't have AT&T cards anymore and I'm stuck on T-Mobile's EDGE service
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Fwiw, net10 is basically the same as straight talk. When you buy the $15 simcard pack from bestbuy for net10, it comes with 3 different sim cards in it. One of them is a micro sim that fits in the note2 and runs on at&t's network.
gianptune said:
Fwiw, net10 is basically the same as straight talk. When you buy the $15 simcard pack from bestbuy for net10, it comes with 3 different sim cards in it. One of them is a micro sim that fits in the note2 and runs on at&t's network.
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What max speed will be get in using Net10 on ATT sim? anyone checked?
karthikshanth said:
What max speed will be get in using Net10 on ATT sim? anyone checked?
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i got 7mbps on net10 with n7105.
hi brothers i have SG note2 GT-I7105T LTE and it work only on 2G Band when i switch to 3G(WCDMA) mode or LTE it show "Emergency Call" but when switch to 2G(GSM) it work fine so what can i do ? and please developers explain me this problem and how to solve i try Z3X Box but it not support this variant
please help me and thanx in advance
So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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I have Tmobile and it works ok, It depends on the service coverage cause where I live I don't get 4G on any carrier lol.
That's a tough question to answer. Is it a matter of want or need LTE on your mobile device?
Arguably, at&t has better service than t mobile. But since t mobile is still at the stage of refarming their antennas/towers, Tmo could be just the same as their counterpart after its done. I have t mobile and coverage has been excellent. Data speeds are speedy but not quite as fast as at&t's LTE.
On HSPA+, i get great to decent speeds that can get all of my mobile needs online. It would be a plus to have LTE but i don't need it.
Do you get what i trying to get at?
Sorry i had to write this quickly.
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So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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I say go for the Tmobile S3. T-mobile's LTE rollout won't be for a long while, and even when it does become available we don't know if it uses the same LTE band as ATT. My guess is that it won't. Tmobile's HSPA+ is plenty fast where I live for all my needs. You will only get EDGE (2G) speeds with TMobile on the ATT version of the S3 until Tmobile refarms their network. But even if they do refarm where you live by the end of the month, the many other places will still only be covered with the 1700 spectrum.
S3 on Edge is a pointless phone. Even with the 1900 mhz bands rolling out, your data will be spotty at BEST. Even in NYC Manhattan, the 1900 mhz bands are probably 20% complete. Go with the TMO version and you won't regret it.
I get up to 25mbps I average about 7-12 who cares about LTE? Go with T-Mo its cheaper and you will get faster speeds. At my home I get faster data speeds than my baby mama on ATT with her HoX soon to be OG Note
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I also have the same dilemma.
If T-Mobile will use LTE on the same frequency as ATT currently does, won't using the ATT SGS3 future proof it for LTE on T-Mobile network?
Am I missing something or do these devices have same specs (except T-Mo having 1700) once 3G moves to 1900 on T-Mo?
OP, I suggest you test T-Mo's network for coverage and speed in your area. I will be doing the same.
Get the T-Mobile version if you value fast data speed.
Don't buy a phone and hoping that it will have the correct technology to work on a network that has not even start to build yet.
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