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Newbie Questions about EVO Rooting

I'm coming from a rooted port of Android for the Sprint Touch (Vogue) (Thanks DZO, Myn, and company!!!) and WOW EVO is amazing.
Anyways I have a few questions I need help with getting started I've been reading a lot but I'm still overwhelmed with the wealth of info:
#1. I updated the OTA - does this mean I can't root yet until the new OTA is rooted?
#2. I would like to go to a new rom without all the junk. I don't use sense, or any of that other fancy stuff running in the background. Is there a rom you would recommend?
#3. In the past, I had a rooted device where I could modify the androidinstall.tar and remove .apk's I didn't want. Is this possible with the current situation on EVO?
#4. With all these roms, do you generally clean wipe everything each time? or do settings / apps / configs remain?
Thanks!!!

I can try to answer your questions.
1. Unless something has come out recently off you are stock and did the update no way to root yet.
2. I just use stock ROM and remove what I don't use.
3. I personally use "root explorer" once you are root you can either unlock nand and use out to remove bloatware or you can adb and remove with your computer.
4. I'm not to sure about those commands, I haven't ever used those.
Look at the sticky in any forum and go to the ROM and Guide link and everything you need to know its there. Keep a close lookout I'm sure somebody will figure out how to root the update soon.
Ifly
EVO fully rooted fresh

ifly4vamerica said:
I can try to answer your questions.
1. Unless something has come out recently off you are stock and did the update no way to root yet.
2. I just use stock ROM and remove what I don't use.
3. I personally use "root explorer" once you are root you can either unlock nand and use out to remove bloatware or you can adb and remove with your computer.
4. I'm not to sure about those commands, I haven't ever used those.
Look at the sticky in any forum and go to the ROM and Guide link and everything you need to know its there. Keep a close lookout I'm sure somebody will figure out how to root the update soon.
Ifly
EVO fully rooted fresh
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Thanks!
Yeah I love root explorer, that's how I used to change things on my old phone. I have it installed but I guess I just have to wait for them to root the update. Maybe I shouldn't have updated
Oh well, knowing XDA they will probably root it by the time I'm finished typing this post. I'll keep reading those stickies... thanks for the answer though!

No problem. Yeah, never install an update till the devs ok it. Good luck.
Ifly
EVO fully rooted fresh

Crap one question I forgot - without being rooted - is there anyway I can do the wireless tethering besides the standard Sprint program?

There is a program on the market called easytether. One is the lite version, which is free. The full version is 10 bucks

Dave2582 said:
There is a program on the market called easytether. One is the lite version, which is free. The full version is 10 bucks
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yeah but it doesnt work as a router which is what I want. I decided to just use the sprint version for 29 a month

[Q] Why do we root?

The title says it all
with the iPhone we jailbreak it in order to install cr**ked Apps and install some other Apps that cant work without the necessary privileges (ex tethering), what about Android devices?
Thanks

Because we can and it's my phone and I don't want to be told what I can do with it, but the primary reason for me to Root and S-OFF is so i can install CM7

Rooting means that you can flash whatever custom rom you want from proposed android gingerbread (before its officially released) to chinese MIUI rom (similarities to iphone). whichever takes your fancy....as there are alot to choose from.....you can also overclock your device to improve speed and underclock to improve battery....you also get total freedom to file manage your phone and make necessary backups if anything were to go wrong....this is just some of the endless possibilities of rooting...
Hope this helps

Rooting gives you full access to your phone.
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Why would you even ask such a thing?
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Skwuhrl said:
Why would you even ask such a thing?
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hahah.....lol

I rooted mine to get rid of all the rubbish bloatware that comes with being an Orange UK customer. They suck for bloatware, takes over everything! In your face Orange!

also, rooting gives us the possibility to overclock/underclock!

it is necessary to install custom rom.i advise to you.

we root in the pursuit of perfection

we root because we need more control over our phone. we only want what we need and remove what we don't need. stock ROM is good, but its not enough.

[Q] Removed Tethering Provision....oops?

Hello.
First of all, I am new here. I have done a fair amount of reading over the last few days, and I love the site. I finally ditched the "slackberry" in favor of an att GNII. With the help of an xda post, I managed to root it and install TB. Silly me decided to remove to Tethering Provision file reading (incorrectly) that doing so would allow me to enable wi-fi hotspot....
well... it doesnt. So now tethering is pretty much broke all together. Any advice?

Do you know what the file name was and its location

shadow664 said:
Do you know what the file name was and its location
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Unfortunately, all I know for sure is that Titanium Backup called it ThetherProvision. I was under the impression i had to remove it to enable wifi hotspot on my rooted phone

I was able to install foxfi and now I can tether. It would be nice if I could use the stock tether option. I guess ill wait to see if someone figures that out. Should i be concerned that I blew away this ThetherProvision?
Just a quick note. I do not pay for a tethering option on my subscription. I assume that was understood. But, like i said, I am new here.

Well maybe some one could post a copy of theres, I would but it seems that telus doesnt have that file on my phone, on another note everytime you are going to delete something, back it up first
When it comes to android modding the best thing you can do is back everything up

Here ya go...
Here it is in ODEX form wich is stock.
Its CWM / TWRP flashable.

Also here is a link to a stock at&t rom, which you can flash if you make anymore "mistakes"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986556

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Also here is a link to a stock at&t rom, which you can flash if you make anymore "mistakes"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986556
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Yeah, I made that too :highfive:

If you removed that tethering provision apk and tethering works I would leave it removed in case it's part of AT&T detection of you using tethering without their additional fee.

thanks for everyones help

wisem2540 said:
I was able to install foxfi and now I can tether. It would be nice if I could use the stock tether option. I guess ill wait to see if someone figures that out. Should i be concerned that I blew away this ThetherProvision?
Just a quick note. I do not pay for a tethering option on my subscription. I assume that was understood. But, like i said, I am new here.
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I don't think you will use the stock teather if you are not on a plan anyway.
For me that would mean I lose my Unlimited data (aka trottle) and pay an additional $15/mo.

Removed tethering provision
scrosler said:
Here it is in ODEX form wich is stock.
Its CWM / TWRP flashable.
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How do I use this? I too, have deleted the provision and my situation is the same, but I am lost as far as using this information to fix my problem. If possible, do you step by step directions?

Root or not to root

Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
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daproject said:
Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
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If ur happy with ur device now... dont root. If u want more then what yur getting...root it. Root for myself is a must so i can use titanium backup and more.
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The phone is pretty good out of the box.
However rooting will give you much more control on the phone. So it really depends on what you want to do with your phone.
Example rooting enables you to remove bloatware from your, disable auto start ups , backup data with titanium backup etc.
But since you are new. I suggest you play around with your phone a bit longer for the stock experience and do more research on the advantages of rooting before you decide to root and delete/disable important system files or fiddle something that screw up your phone causing you to re Flash the whole rom
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Don't root it if you don't need it right now. I have rooted my previous phones for apps like Titanium Backup but I didn't need any of these apps on Note 2, so I didn't see a point in rooting. I suggest you the same. There is no big plus when you root. You can remove carrier apps, or install apps that messes around with system files but if you don't need these things, you don't have to root. You'll root it when you need it.
I'm ignoring the exynos exploit when I say these things btw.

I would say yes
It depends on you. If you like it out of the box then don't.
For me it is always - YES. Why?
-Titanium Backup (backup)
-Mobile odin (flashing)
-Adaway (hmm)
-all music tweaks
-Joystick Center (all games played with pad)
-sd-booster (that's clear)
-undelete (restoring deleted files)
-WifiKill (find out yourself )
And much more.

Rooting just to install apps and little modifications to your phone to show off to your galaxy note 2 friends that aren't rooted is enough reason but there's a lot more behind rooting!
Sent From An Incognegro Galaxy Note 2

I'd always do it, mainly because I'm paranoid and cannot live without regular device backups.
And there is always a bunch of apps I don't want on my phone, but cannot get rid of easily. However, with the amount of space on the Note 2 that's hardly a reason anymore - it definitely was one when I still had the HTC Desire.

DON'T root it unless you need custom ROM.
AND
I don't think you need custom ROM because it is toooo early looking for one now..
Trust me on this..
BR.

just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!

KpopAMD said:
just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!
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Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
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unholygid said:
Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
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thanks for the reply sir, not to take away from the thread starter but what can we use to remove bloatwares on rooted but stock roms? aside from paying programs like titanium pro? is there any other way? i wanna be able to remove bloatwares without using custom roms thanks!

Whats the deal with the titanium backup. You cant make backups ? Like with the iphone, in the computer? Or you are talking beyond a simple backup
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Thanks for the reply guys. Im still not sure to root or not. I probably will wait a bit longer. I really enjoy customising the device and i can do it without rooting for the moment.
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You can't back uo app data without a root and titanium backup. A very annoying thing about unrooted phones. Why can't they just let us back stufd up?
With Exynos Abuse, I don't see any reason not to root. It's super simple to root and unroot. Also, if you disable the exploit with Exynos Abuse and are going to unroot, make sure to enable (uncheck the box) the exploit first. If you do not, you will no longer be able to use the app to root, until you use a different root method. (I'll give you one guess on how I know that... :banghead: )
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Without root you cant delete all this unnecessary samsung app-**** and free more than 100mb space from your ROM memory.

Rooting takes my device to a whole new level.
-Titanium backups
-Adblocking
-Spen gesture control
-Xposed framework for unlimited multiwindows, per app dpi settings, various ui tweaks.
-Etc.etc... so many valuable tools work only with rooting.
Backups are my main concern, but the other root apps make this device much more enjoyable. :thumbup:
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I say root. I've rooted many devices and had no issues. Best advice for a noob would be to read over the root process for your device. After you have read the process once go over it again, and again, and again. Best to know the in's and out's before you attempt the process. Not to make the whole process sound scary but knowledge is power. If your on the fence about the whoel root process I say root but leave stock recovery. This way when it comes to returning phone for warranty if needed you simple unroot and off it goes. Worst case if you want to go all the way the great peeps of XDA always have a return to stock guide. Hope this helps

ROOT ur going to do it sooner or later

Definitely go for Root. All those above suggested programs are a must, especially Adblock and i will add Lucky patcher, which removes google adds from free programs. :angel:

[Q] Lost Root Access after Upgrading to Cm 10.1.3.1

Hey can anybody help me with an answer to this question
I lose root Access to my phone after Upgrading to Cm 10.1.3.1 From 10.1.3 I'm Running Droid 4.2.2 But when I Re install 10.1.3 from backup root is back and have ALL ROOT Permisions

Viper1979X said:
Hey can anybody help me with an answer to this question
I lose root Access to my phone after Upgrading to Cm 10.1.3.1 From 10.1.3 I'm Running Droid 4.2.2 But when I Re install 10.1.3 from backup root is back and have ALL ROOT Permisions
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Can you give us more information on what model of s3 and any other weird things that have been happening to your phone?
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lost root after upgrading
Bruce Lee said:
Can you give us more information on what model of s3 and any other weird things that have been happening to your phone?
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Samsung Galaxy S3 At&t 1747 16gb 1747UCDLK3 Qualcom
1.5GHz Dual Core Processor NFC Enabled 4g LTE Capable
Garnet Red Origanly Jb 4.1.2.
Hope thats enough info dont really know wht else is needed.

Viper1979X said:
Samsung Galaxy S3 At&t 1747 16gb 1747UCDLK3 Qualcom
1.5GHz Dual Core Processor NFC Enabled 4g LTE Capable
Garnet Red Origanly Jb 4.1.2.
Hope thats enough info dont really know wht else is needed.
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Thanks thats good. But my question now is..... I didn't see the ROM said you tried to flash in the ATT Dev section? Can you post a link or describe the ROM better. No ROMS should make you lose root access.
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Bruce Lee said:
Thanks thats good. But my question now is..... I didn't see the ROM said you tried to flash in the ATT Dev section? Can you post a link or describe the ROM better. No ROMS should make you lose root access.
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Cyanogen Mod 10.1.3.1 thats because I used ROM Mgr for all my roms like most of us do I believe, and use Xda for all of my stock Jb ROM downloads along with oden. I flashed through Clockwork Recovery and this is the first time I flashed a ROM and lost root after aperantly other people are having some of the same probs.

I would recommend you don't use that ROM especially if other people are having issues. I would recommend the cyanogenmod ROMS and the hyperdrive Touchwiz ROMS.
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This might help but I'm not so sure but this might help: Go to Settings>Developer Options and Above the sub-menu "Debugging" there's Root Access, by default it should be Apps Only but hopefully this could help a little...

Answer To Yas Problems
Viper1979X said:
Hey can anybody help me with an answer to this question
I lose root Access to my phone after Upgrading to Cm 10.1.3.1 From 10.1.3 I'm Running Droid 4.2.2 But when I Re install 10.1.3 from backup root is back and have ALL ROOT Permisions
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Hey!!!, So I had the same problem; I've searched and searched for almost 2 months for an answer... and nothing. To be honest I was actually just going to give up and accept CM10.1.3.1 as my phone's tomb. Although, I finally fixed it in the oddest way—essentially fiddling around with the phone before bed.... serious ciber-ich—So forget anything anyone has even talked about, up to this point, because it isn't a problem with your phone; in fact you are still rooted, you've just lost access to your root due to a root-permission war between your phone and superuser/supersu (what eva).
So if anyone is interested in fixing this, here, this is what I did to fix it.
This was my first failed attempt
1) Reinstall Root (Fail!!!!)
2) Use new super User (Fail!!!!!!)
3) Reinstall CM (Fail!!!!!!!!)
4) Wait for an answer on google (fail!!)
5) Wait for an answer on here ( double fail!!!!)
Here's the Fix
1) Reinstall Root with SuperSU ( Probably didn't need to do this; however, due to all the superuser-instalation-overkill, it's probably best.)
2) Uninstall all other superuser apps you may have on your phone—also do not use CWM Superuser (It doesn't have what it takes)
3) Go to App Management, uninstall SuperSU's last update
4) Clear SuperSU's catch (self explanatory)
5) Go into AppDrawer, Open SuperSU app and make sure
- Enabled -- Yes
- Survival mode -- No
- Logging -- Access only
- Trust System User -- Yes
- *************** Respect CM root settings********** no!!!!!!!!!!!! Do not respect that ****!!!!!!!!
6) Enjoy your root access again :victory:
If anyone has any questions, just message me. I hope this was of help to anyone going through the same pain I had gone through.
For some more info on my phone.
- I'm running a I747m GSIII CM10.1.3.1d2att
- as for the root... well I can't give the link because i'm new to this site...
John Stuart

JohnStuart said:
Hey!!!, So I had the same problem; I've searched and searched for almost 2 months for an answer... and nothing. To be honest I was actually just going to give up and accept CM10.1.3.1 as my phone's tomb. Although, I finally fixed it in the oddest way—essentially fiddling around with the phone before bed.... serious ciber-ich—So forget anything anyone has even talked about, up to this point, because it isn't a problem with your phone; in fact you are still rooted, you've just lost access to your root due to a root-permission war between your phone and superuser/supersu (what eva).
So if anyone is interested in fixing this, here, this is what I did to fix it.
This was my first failed attempt
1) Reinstall Root (Fail!!!!)
2) Use new super User (Fail!!!!!!)
3) Reinstall CM (Fail!!!!!!!!)
4) Wait for an answer on google (fail!!)
5) Wait for an answer on here ( double fail!!!!)
Here's the Fix
1) Reinstall Root with SuperSU ( Probably didn't need to do this; however, due to all the superuser-instalation-overkill, it's probably best.)
2) Uninstall all other superuser apps you may have on your phone—also do not use CWM Superuser (It doesn't have what it takes)
3) Go to App Management, uninstall SuperSU's last update
4) Clear SuperSU's catch (self explanatory)
5) Go into AppDrawer, Open SuperSU app and make sure
- Enabled -- Yes
- Survival mode -- No
- Logging -- Access only
- Trust System User -- Yes
- *************** Respect CM root settings********** no!!!!!!!!!!!! Do not respect that ****!!!!!!!!
6) Enjoy your root access again :victory:
If anyone has any questions, just message me. I hope this was of help to anyone going through the same pain I had gone through.
For some more info on my phone.
- I'm running a I747m GSIII CM10.1.3.1d2att
- as for the root... well I can't give the link because i'm new to this site...
John Stuart
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So you also deteled superuser from system/xbin/su..?