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[Q] Are you Stock / CWM / Rooted / Custom Rom'd?

Hi All,
Had my HOX about a week. I have rooted my previous phones, but the current state of unlocking / rooting / CWM makes me a little nervous this time round.
Losing the ability to get OTA updates, along with the issues about getting root / installing CWM / custom roms and the number of bricked phones / issues still prevalent is giving me second thoughts.
I'm curious as to how many people think the same or how many have jumped all in!
Am I being a chicken and should I wait for the process of Unlocking/Rooting/CWM/Custom Roms to stabilize, or should I man up?
I love the XDA forums and the Rom developers, but don't want to risk my brand new HOX!

Im currently stock and waiting for s-off to be done without the need for htcdev.

agento said:
Hi All,
Had my HOX about a week. I have rooted my previous phones, but the current state of unlocking / rooting / CWM makes me a little nervous this time round.
Losing the ability to get OTA updates, along with the issues about getting root / installing CWM / custom roms and the number of bricked phones / issues still prevalent is giving me second thoughts.
I'm curious as to how many people think the same or how many have jumped all in!
Am I being a chicken and should I wait for the process of Unlocking/Rooting/CWM/Custom Roms to stabilize, or should I man up?
I love the XDA forums and the Rom developers, but don't want to risk my brand new HOX!
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If YOU are confident then you unlock the bootloader and start tweaking your device. I have rooted and unlocked the device now trying out different ROM's. I for one is flash junk. So if you think you can void your warranty then go ahead have fun. Or wait until S-OFF comes. I suspect it's gonna be sooner than we think because last I heard someone is already working on it.

Staying Stock for now

Im unlooked rooted have custom rom plus touch recovery. Did everything in under half an hour. Everything works like with other phones (as far as the mass of users are concerned) but yeah you can flash everything backup and restore if anything goes wrong.. There are pleanty of instructions for windows or mac on this forum also ways for unbricking. I was worried that it was too early for this stuff yet too but everything is fine.
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agento said:
Hi All,
Had my HOX about a week. I have rooted my previous phones, but the current state of unlocking / rooting / CWM makes me a little nervous this time round.
Losing the ability to get OTA updates, along with the issues about getting root / installing CWM / custom roms and the number of bricked phones / issues still prevalent is giving me second thoughts.
I'm curious as to how many people think the same or how many have jumped all in!
Am I being a chicken and should I wait for the process of Unlocking/Rooting/CWM/Custom Roms to stabilize, or should I man up?
I love the XDA forums and the Rom developers, but don't want to risk my brand new HOX!
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I'm totally with you on that. I'm hanging fire to check out the OTA and see if it brings better stability, battery etc. I will root eventually, especially if a really sound vanilla ROM comes along and I don't have to lose the camera features.
Of HOX users in my Google+ circles, I think about 50% have rooted, the remainder sticking with stock for now...

I rooted and went custom Rom mainly because I'm a lefty and reaching to the top right corner for settings and/or menu was a pain in the bum.
At least that's how I'm justifying it to my girlfriend
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Stock, waiting for S-OFF and also want the banding issues on my screen fixed. Thus I don't want to void my warranty and need 1.28...

Normally root on day one bit still on stock at the mo
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i was the biggest flashaholic when i had my galaxy s2..it was so easy to root as well. just flash the cf-root kernel through odin and voila that was it job done..here is my god so more complicated...so for now staying stock and enjoying sense..i just disable loads of crapware and that is it just enjoy my phone as stock...but i do miss flashing and trying different roms so i might wait for a few more weeks till i do that....wish we can get a AOKP rom though

NoobTerminator said:
i was the biggest flashaholic when i had my galaxy s2..it was so easy to root as well. just flash the cf-root kernel through odin and voila that was it job done..here is my god so more complicated...so for now staying stock and enjoying sense..i just disable loads of crapware and that is it just enjoy my phone as stock...but i do miss flashing and trying different roms so i might wait for a few more weeks till i do that....wish we can get a AOKP rom though
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lol you should've seen the crap we went thorugh with the desire z / G2 with the gold cards and stuff lol.
as for me, I want to wait for the OTA patch

gdelrosario said:
lol you should've seen the crap we went thorugh with the desire z / G2 with the gold cards and stuff lol.
as for me, I want to wait for the OTA patch
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yeah i heard and read that the next OTA patch will help resolve some of the issues that we are facing...still like this phone though but i do not understand why they do not just release phones with an unlocked bootloader like sammy did with the s2

Guys its really not hard at all to unlock bootloader flash recovery and root this phone.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I will wait for a more reliable rooting and uprooting method before switching.
My biggest reasons for rooting my last two phones was:
Internal space,
Bloatware,
Latest software,
However on this device, I have plenty of space, ability to disable bloatware and up-to-date with the latest software.

NoobTerminator said:
i was the biggest flashaholic when i had my galaxy s2..it was so easy to root as well. just flash the cf-root kernel through odin and voila that was it job done..here is my god so more complicated...so for now staying stock and enjoying sense..i just disable loads of crapware and that is it just enjoy my phone as stock...but i do miss flashing and trying different roms so i might wait for a few more weeks till i do that....wish we can get a AOKP rom though
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What are you disabling and how ?
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I'm just waiting for my HOX to get it's scratched screen replaced and a stable, official CM9. For now I'm leaving it completely stock unrooted.

combat goofwing said:
Way are you disabling and how ?
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Setting apps and select what you want to disable
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NoobTerminator said:
Setting apps and select what you want to disable
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I know with apps what I want running etc but what sort of background services is it ok to disable or is it best not to tinker
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combat goofwing said:
I know with apps what I want running etc but what sort of background services is it ok to disable or is it best not to tinker
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i basically disabled all 3 apps. do not use them so i just disabled them. then google books i do not use and the same with google movies. everything else i left it as it is
so i would presume it would be the same with t-mobile apps mate
regarding background services i would not tinker with if i was you..only disable google apps like google plus or google messenger if you do not use them and the same goes for google books and movies if you do not use that either....anything else just leave it as it is...and disable any tmobile crap

Looks like I'm in the majority, then.
Just waiting (fingers crossed) for S-Off or some other exploit from the Revolutionary team to get things going.

[MOD]Disable EndCall Screen for Smsung Phone app(SecPhone.apk)

Hate this annoying screen that pops up after call is complete? Flash attached zip in recovery and you wont see it any more. Enjoy...
For more details see here ...

nijel8 said:
Hate this annoying screen that pops up after call is complete? Flash attached zip in recovery and you wont see it any more. Enjoy...
For more details see here ...
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Would make a sweet exposed mod

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nijel8 said:
Hate this annoying screen that pops up after call is complete? Flash attached zip in recovery and you wont see it any more. Enjoy...
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Awesome!....Now I could resist the urge of calling/texting back the person I just hanged up on just 2 seconds ago.
No really this is great...THX!
Sent from my Blutiful Note3

Nice , I find the screen useful but others may not.
I'd much prefer eliminating some of those shadows and making the caller ID picture more prominent.

re: excelllent mod
nijel8 said:
Hate this annoying screen that pops up after call is complete? Flash attached zip in recovery and you wont see it any more. Enjoy...
For more details see here ...
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I did not like that screen either, never had any use for it and when it pops
up it looks and acts like some kind of hesitation or lag in the phone before
it finally goes back to previous screen after any incoming or outgoing calls.
This is a great mod!
Good luck!

What firmware is it based off of? MI7
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ktetreault14 said:
What firmware is it based off of? MI7
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Yes, MI7...

Have a restore file?
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CoogiMane1996 said:
Have a restore file?
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Backup should be created in /sdcard/vrthemeundo folder. If you don't have it just replace /system/app/SecPhone.apk with one from the ROM you are using.

OP...long shot question....do you know of any way to flash this via MOP? I am KNOX 0x0 running Wicked, but not able to flash vrthemes, or at least not found a way.

droidkevlar said:
OP...long shot question....do you know of any way to flash this via MOP? I am KNOX 0x0 running Wicked, but not able to flash vrthemes, or at least not found a way.
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Don't know what MOP is but if you can push apps to /system/app then you can replace classes.dex in SecPhone.apk with the one from this zip and push it back. That's what flashing do.

nijel8 said:
Don't know what MOP is but if you can push apps to /system/app then you can replace classes.dex in SecPhone.apk with the one from this zip and push it back. That's what flashing do.
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MOP is Mobile Odin Pro...ok, good to know. I know how to do that. Thanks for the heads up.

Does this work on kk 4.4 base
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oxidation868 said:
Does this work on kk 4.4 base
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I tested it. it does not work with Kitkat. It did not cause me any problems, it just does not work.
Could the developer please update this mod to work with Kitkat?
AC
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droidkevlar said:
OP...long shot question....do you know of any way to flash this via MOP? I am KNOX 0x0 running Wicked, but not able to flash vrthemes, or at least not found a way.
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Why in the world are you still Knox 0x0?? Who gives a crap about Samsungs Knox stuff. Trip your counter. If you mess it up, flash another boot loader from like the s4 or note 2, no one will ever know. Just say it won't turn on. Bam, new phone. Keeping your counter 0x0 is like having a model GF and never sleeping with her.
Your missing so many benefits of kernels and themes.

antiochasylum said:
Why in the world are you still Knox 0x0?? Who gives a crap about Samsungs Knox stuff. Trip your counter. If you mess it up, flash another boot loader from like the s4 or note 2, no one will ever know. Just say it won't turn on. Bam, new phone. Keeping your counter 0x0 is like having a model GF and never sleeping with her.
Your missing so many benefits of kernels and themes.
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Reason I didn't want to trip it was for resale value. I've already sold the phone and moved on. Thanks though.
sent from my m8 in my pants

You convinced me though!
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antiochasylum said:
Why in the world are you still Knox 0x0?? Who gives a crap about Samsungs Knox stuff. Trip your counter. If you mess it up, flash another boot loader from like the s4 or note 2, no one will ever know. Just say it won't turn on. Bam, new phone. Keeping your counter 0x0 is like having a model GF and never sleeping with her.
Your missing so many benefits of kernels and themes.
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That cracked me up man, that's a perfect analogy because you're exactly right. Whenever people ask me what rooting is, I always say it's basically like giving a rape victim the ability to at least put a condom on their attacker before it happens. You're still gonna get screwed regardless, but at least you can have some control over how it happens! LOL! I definitely know what ya mean as far as Knox goes because I actually popped mine in the parking lot 5 mins after I walked out of the store with it lol.
droidkevlar said:
Reason I didn't want to trip it was for resale value. I've already sold the phone and moved on. Thanks though.
sent from my m8 in my pants
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To each his own and it's obviously up to you how you decide to do things, but what you're doing is literally what they expected you to do. By making people worry about the resale value possibly going down because it has been rooted or more specifically Knox has been tripped, it allows them to stay in control and basically force whatever they want down your throat. Technically there's no such thing as "resale value" with these phones anymore (when it comes to T-mobile at least), because now you're paying for the entire phone over a two year period so by the time you finish paying it off and then try to sell it, you'll never get anywhere near what you paid for it to begin with. It's actually even worse if you go through Jump though because not only are you paying them a down payment for the device, you're also turning it back in to them so you're letting THEM resell it for all the profit.. on top of that you're also paying them another down payment for the next device and the "giant wheel of dongs for your butt" cycle continues. The only way to even kind of "get ahead" is to either buy your phone outright somewhere at a discount or by actually keeping your device for the entire two years to pay it off, because then whatever you're able to sell it for at that point will at least recoupe some of the money you spent on it (and 99% of people buying it outright could care less whether Knox is tripped or not, because Jump has nothing to do with them anyway). So in my opinion "Jump" is nothing but a suckers bet designed for people who have to have the latest and greatest or simply can't wait until their phone is paid off before getting something else. So if you think about it worrying about the resale value is a total waste of time unless you're into suckers bets, and unfortunately it looks like that might be the case considering you said you already moved on. My biggest question would be what could you have "moved on" to that's anywhere near as powerful and awesome as this one?! But that's where to each their own comes in I guess
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Ok , lets not get hostile. We wirk hard on these roms. And as its hard to please everyone, we try. There are other roms. And there are other phones. Please try to remember. Thus is as is free of charge. As updates come it's on the free time of the OP.
¡♤Redux♤!

Q: Crucial answers needed before purchase or decide to wait for Note 4

I'm coming off 2 generations of HTC phones and I'm due an upgrade with Sprint. I bypassed on the GS5 and One M8 for various reasons and the G3 seems to fit my needs but I have a few questions first.
1) Root is must. While I know the phone can be rooted, I'm worried about updates afterward. I'm fine with a stock ROM but I need to know that after I root I can still update Android, bug fixes, radios, new features. Can this be done and if so how (only a very basic description is needed, not a guide lol). I've read the the bootloader can not be unlocked so what are limitations associted with that?
2) Will Android "L" and it's ART only runtime work on this phone? If so, I guess that relates to my question #1 if I'm already rooted.
3) Actually, that's really it. The phone looks amazing and I'm ok with it "only" being a snapdragon 801 with the 805 and beyond right around the corner but I need to know that if I root, I'll be able to easily flash new updates as they become available.
Now that the phone is in the wild in the US, are there any clearer answers to my questions? Thank You.

Hi, first of all I would like to say the phone is great, it seems to get some negative comments here but since I got one I have been very happy with my first LG handset.
Ok we'll you can't get ota's after rooting, I haven't received any official updates yet so I'm not sure if we can just full uproot with supersu to get the it a again or not. But flashing a stock firmware is a pretty simple procedure and the kind folks here at xda keep us up to date with all the stock firmware so you can update and then reroot.
ART will run on this phone no problem at all however it seems android L may break root so if root is a must you may be best advised to look into you're updates before hand, which is another advantage of getting you're stock rom's at xda. Would be pretty frustrating to agree to a ota and find out you can no longer root when it's done.
But in short, root is fine on 'nearly' all he variants and flashing stock fw manually is not to much fuss.
Hope that helps you a little.

557953 said:
Hi, first of all I would like to say the phone is great, it seems to get some negative comments here but since I got one I have been very happy with my first LG handset.
Ok we'll you can't get ota's after rooting, I haven't received any official updates yet so I'm not sure if we can just full uproot with supersu to get the it a again or not. But flashing a stock firmware is a pretty simple procedure and the kind folks here at xda keep us up to date with all the stock firmware so you can update and then reroot.
ART will run on this phone no problem at all however it seems android L may break root so if root is a must you may be best advised to look into you're updates before hand, which is another advantage of getting you're stock rom's at xda. Would be pretty frustrating to agree to a ota and find out you can no longer root when it's done.
But in short, root is fine on 'nearly' all he variants and flashing stock fw manually is not to much fuss.
Hope that helps you a little.
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It does help a bit. Thank you but I need to have this clear in my head. With HTC, in order to update radios, you needed s-off, which was more than just root. That's what I'm hesitant about here, if I root, and want an update the g3, I have to unroot, update and re root? What if the update prevents root? I don't want to be stuck with a choice of updating or keeping root on a phone that won't be able to stay updated with the latest version and patches of software.
Really, knowing that I'll be able to root, and update firmware, radios and software throughout the life of the phone is the only thing holding me back from an LG G3 or waiting for the note 4 and a probably larger development base. I'd prefer the G3 so I hope it can be assured.

flyhighx said:
It does help a bit. Thank you but I need to have this clear in my head. With HTC, in order to update radios, you needed s-off, which was more than just root. That's what I'm hesitant about here, if I root, and want an update the g3, I have to unroot, update and re root? What if the update prevents root? I don't want to be stuck with a choice of updating or keeping root on a phone that won't be able to stay updated with the latest version and patches of software.
Really, knowing that I'll be able to root, and update firmware, radios and software throughout the life of the phone is the only thing holding me back from an LG G3 or waiting for the note 4 and a probably larger development base. I'd prefer the G3 so I hope it can be assured.
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If you're into rooting and flashing custom rooms I would seriously avoid this phone and wait for note 4. Trust me when you get your hands on this phone the first thing you want to do is get rid of the lag. It seriously lags worse then S5. I'm a HTC fan and found the lag really annoying constantly using task manager which I hate doing.
So if you are a rooter and love to flash roms don't buy.

riz157 said:
If you're into rooting and flashing custom rooms I would seriously avoid this phone and wait for note 4. Trust me when you get your hands on this phone the first thing you want to do is get rid of the lag. It seriously lags worse then S5. I'm a HTC fan and found the lag really annoying constantly using task manager which I hate doing.
So if you are a rooter and love to flash roms don't buy.
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its funny you say that. I looked at the phone today. First thing I thought of when I looked at it was touchwiz. The UI just seemed very laggy. Maybe after all the hype I was just expecting a bit more. Nice phone but didn't "wow" me.
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I'm coming from the s4 and s3 prior to that. I have looked into every phone and leak there is but decided the G3 was the right fit.
I got my G3 early Thursday from AT&T and I have no complaints thus far. I do notice slight lag from time to time but if you're on XDA and are use to custom slimmed down ROMs then yes, you'll kind of notice it. But trust me, it is far from a deal breaker.
Here's the thing, in a few weeks there will be numerous ROM's that have stripped away the bloatware and added a few tweaks and the lag will be non existent. I already have my phone rooted and have deleted most of the bloatware and added UI tweaks. I barely notice lag and I'm actually enjoying the UI.
This is just my 2 cents. And being loyal Samsung customer for years I can honestly say I prefer LG 's new UI over touchwiz any day.
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crazyagg said:
I'm coming from the s4 and s3 prior to that. I have looked into every phone and leak there is but decided the G3 was the right fit.
I got my G3 early Thursday from AT&T and I have no complaints thus far. I do notice slight lag from time to time but if you're on XDA and are use to custom slimmed down ROMs then yes, you'll kind of notice it. But trust me, it is far from a deal breaker.
Here's the thing, in a few weeks there will be numerous ROM's that have stripped away the bloatware and added a few tweaks and the lag will be non existent. I already have my phone rooted and have deleted most of the bloatware and added UI tweaks. I barely notice lag and I'm actually enjoying the UI.
This is just my 2 cents. And being loyal Samsung customer for years I can honestly say I prefer LG 's new UI over touchwiz any day.
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Mind sharing what you did? I'm coming from a note 2 and n5 and this lag is driving me nuts!
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Kreateablaze said:
Mind sharing what you did? I'm coming from a note 2 and n5 and this lag is driving me nuts!
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I rooted with ioroot, deleted all useless apps and froze others that I don't use with titanium backup.
I still have some lag but nothing that is driving me crazy by any means. The only time it lagged for me was when I used the LG health screen and I think the photo gallery. I turned off the health screen and I've always use QuickPic instead of stock gallery. Most my lag is gone but not all.
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https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/487866199737634816/photo/1
Everyone is going to have there own opinions
i am a note2/note3 owner that now has the LG G3 the note 3 was the worst phone i have ever owned. So far am liking the LG G3 root will come shortly.

JustusIV said:
https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/487866199737634816/photo/1
Everyone is going to have there own opinions
i am a note2/note3 owner that now has the LG G3 the note 3 was the worst phone i have ever owned. So far am liking the LG G3 root will come shortly.
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How is the Note 3 the worse phone ever? I note 3 on both VZW and AT&T using KK. Both work great. Personally much better than my Note 1 & 2. I don't have any lag. I did order the LG 3 to replace my VZW Note 3. My only complaint with the Note 3 is horrible pictures when it does its "processing" garbage.
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Big Dawg 23 said:
How is the Note 3 the worse phone ever? I note 3 on both VZW and AT&T using KK. Both work great. Personally much better than my Note 1 & 2. I don't have any lag. I did order the LG 3 to replace my VZW Note 3. My only complaint with the Note 3 is horrible pictures when it does its "processing" garbage.
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I believe that has to do with software OIS from within the camera app options. You can turn this off

Big Dawg 23 said:
How is the Note 3 the worse phone ever? I note 3 on both VZW and AT&T using KK. Both work great. Personally much better than my Note 1 & 2. I don't have any lag. I did order the LG 3 to replace my VZW Note 3. My only complaint with the Note 3 is horrible pictures when it does its "processing" garbage.
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I have a little girl and did not get one photo I was happy with. Worst phone ever!
In addition it was the first time I couldn't run aosp

[Q] General question about rooting history?

So i know AT&T and Verizon users are not able to root their devices at this point! Has it ever been like this for devices Like S4,S5,Note 3 etc?.... If so, did they take a long time to get rooted too?....
it seems AT&T and Verizon pay more to their software developers to make this harder for everyone!!!!....

in short; no.
bootloaders have started to be locked down more over time on att/vzn but nothing major till of late. the s5 is actually rooted already, so only the note 4 is left. if the note 4 never gets root it'll be the first major flagship to go rootless.

I remember the s4 was out for about 2 months before we got root by having a bootloader patch tricking it (loki) but shortly after it was updated over for the later of bootloader phones...now they use run safestrap and still can't get any non TouchWiz rom I was one of the lucky ones who froze the updater apps before they automatically pushed it
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greekunit690 said:
I remember the s4 was out for about 2 months before we got root by having a bootloader patch tricking it (loki) but shortly after it was updated over for the later of bootloader phones...now they use run safestrap and still can't get any non TouchWiz rom I was one of the lucky ones who froze the updater apps before they automatically pushed it
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I think you may be confusing root with unlocked bootloader. root was achieved before the phone even came out, the bootloader wasnt unlocked till a week or two after, but wasn't released so Verizon couldn't patch it yet. that way verizon ppl could have an unlocked bootloader on their phone as well.
root has ALWAYS been something we had.
I dislike locked bootloaders, but can get over it, root is just so **** necessary for BASIC functionality..

what I dont get is why more manufacturers wont take a page out of HTC's (or was it Moto?) book and allow people to unlock the bootloader from a website. If you agree to void the warranty, why not allow people to do that...

soraxd said:
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I dislike locked bootloaders, but can get over it, root is just so **** necessary for BASIC functionality..
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this. i've been holding off on the note4 to see when root arrives. if root doesn't come out before nex6 release i'm going to have to jump ship...which is too bad...would lose functionality going that route but lack of root trumps all else...

con_ritmo said:
this. i've been holding off on the note4 to see when root arrives. if root doesn't come out before nex6 release i'm going to have to jump ship...which is too bad...would lose functionality going that route but lack of root trumps all else...
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Idk...I've rooted every phone I've had and for the first time I don't necessarily need it as of right now
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ok2nvnexus said:
Idk...I've rooted every phone I've had and for the first time I don't necessarily need it as of right now
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Same here. Of course I would prefer being able to root it, but I think I could deal with the scenario of that not happening ever, I really like this phone that much!

It's been great even without root, but there are just a couple things I'd like to change. For example I hate the emojis on here (prefer the standard hangouts emoji) and I could easily fix that with root. Other than that I can live with the phone as is. I do miss some Xposed modules though

The things I'm missing that require root:
Titanium Backup
AdAway
Being able to modify my DPI
Avast Anti-Theft
Pretty sure there's more but those are what I can think of off the top of my head...

Kyuta Syuko said:
The things I'm missing that require root:
Titanium Backup
AdAway
Being able to modify my DPI
Avast Anti-Theft
Pretty sure there's more but those are what I can think of off the top of my head...
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I'd like to have those options as well but, like the others have stated, I like this phone so much that I could easily get used to not having root. I pledged and hope someone finds an exploit but I am loving this phone as is.
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ug deal breaker... for now...
yea im in the same boat as a lot of people who need root for Ti Backup so all my game saves and what not... kinda a bummer.... I guess ill have to wait a bit longer for the upgrade... or maybe pick up a S5 instead...

b3asty said:
I'd like to have those options as well but, like the others have stated, I like this phone so much that I could easily get used to not having root. I pledged and hope someone finds an exploit but I am loving this phone as is.
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Yeah I'm loving this phone, but if root is unachievable I might have to sell it and get a T-Mobile version...

Worst Nexus Device I have ever owned

I have had this phone now for maybe 4-5 months. Coming from a nexus 5 I am really upset. The lag on this device is god awful. I cant even carry on a hangouts chat because the typing is so laggy. I constantly have to go close my recent apps to try to recover some ram in order to make the device speed even remotely bareable. My nexus 4 was crisp and snappy as was my nexus 5. I very rarely experienced any slowdown and now I am stuck with this device that is just so horribly slow.
Has anyone experienced this? Is there a way to fix this? I may just go plunk down to repair the faulty power button on my 5 and just use that. A much nicer device that cost me less than the 5x.

briandresstoyota said:
I have had this phone now for maybe 4-5 months. Coming from a nexus 5 I am really upset. The lag on this device is god awful. I cant even carry on a hangouts chat because the typing is so laggy. I constantly have to go close my recent apps to try to recover some ram in order to make the device speed even remotely bareable. My nexus 4 was crisp and snappy as was my nexus 5. I very rarely experienced any slowdown and now I am stuck with this device that is just so horribly slow.
Has anyone experienced this? Is there a way to fix this? I may just go plunk down to repair the faulty power button on my 5 and just use that. A much nicer device that cost me less than the 5x.
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What have you tried already to speed things up? Also, what rom build are you on? I presume stock? Rooted or not?
The first thing I would suggest is a factory reset and/or flash the latest factory image.

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What have you tried already to speed things up? Also, what rom build are you on? I presume stock? Rooted or not?
The first thing I would suggest is a factory reset and/or flash the latest factory image.
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I am on stock. not rooted. I have not rooted a device in some time. Perhaps the time has come to get back into the custom rom scene if only to increase performance.
I have tried deleting unused apps and cleaning up my storage space to see if that helps but it has not. I am on 6.0.1 of the stock rom.

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I am on stock. not rooted. I have not rooted a device in some time. Perhaps the time has come to get back into the custom rom scene if only to increase performance.
I have tried deleting unused apps and cleaning up my storage space to see if that helps but it has not. I am on 6.0.1 of the stock rom.
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What build number? Settings > about > build number.
I would still recommend trying a full wipe after being at least on the March build.

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What build number? Settings > about > build number.
I would still recommend trying a full wipe after being at least on the March build.
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build number MMB29Q

If it isn't working for you sell it and buy something else. Simple as that.
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briandresstoyota said:
I am on stock. not rooted. I have not rooted a device in some time. Perhaps the time has come to get back into the custom rom scene if only to increase performance.
I have tried deleting unused apps and cleaning up my storage space to see if that helps but it has not. I am on 6.0.1 of the stock rom.
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These threads annoy me. Especially when people haven't rooted or unlocked their NEXUS devices. Half the point of these phones is to unlock and root them without having to work too hard or get in trouble from your carrier. I don't think I owned this phone for more than a few hours before flashing a new ROM on it.
Many other people have had the same complaints as you and after spelling out the steps they should take to unlock, root, flash a new ROM and kernel, they're often much happier with their devices. The RAM thing is a joke, tbh. I think a lot of people read the threads and articles about how "The New Nexus 5 successor only has Two Gigabytes of Memory?!" and now everyone blames that on their slowdowns and lag issues.
Take some time out one night and unlock your phone, flash the newest radios, vendors, custom recovery, etc and flash a custom ROM. It's a breeze. If you ever did it on your original N5, you'll have no trouble with this phone. There are plenty of great ROMs to choose from. Then, if you'd like, flash a custom Kernel as well. The performance will be night and day. If you'd like to take it further, check out the Interactive Governor Tweaks thread and download a profile or two from there. It really improves the battery life and performance in most cases... All is not lost, my friend. If you do what I explained I am confident you will be much happier with your phone.

Exactly what Alcolawl said. The only reason I ever booted the stock ROM was to check "Allow OEM Unlocking". I am coming from a 6P and I have noticed absolutely no lag or stutter. The phone is a bit creaky, which I expected at a low price point, but the hardware is excellent. I didn't think anybody bought a Nexus and didn't unlock it and root it.

Alcolawl said:
These threads annoy me. Especially when people haven't rooted or unlocked their NEXUS devices. Half the point of these phones is to unlock and root them without having to work too hard or get in trouble from your carrier. I don't think I owned this phone for more than a few hours before flashing a new ROM on it.
Many other people have had the same complaints as you and after spelling out the steps they should take to unlock, root, flash a new ROM and kernel, they're often much happier with their devices. The RAM thing is a joke, tbh. I think a lot of people read the threads and articles about how "The New Nexus 5 successor only has Two Gigabytes of Memory?!" and now everyone blames that on their slowdowns and lag issues.
Take some time out one night and unlock your phone, flash the newest radios, vendors, custom recovery, etc and flash a custom ROM. It's a breeze. If you ever did it on your original N5, you'll have no trouble with this phone. There are plenty of great ROMs to choose from. Then, if you'd like, flash a custom Kernel as well. The performance will be night and day. If you'd like to take it further, check out the Interactive Governor Tweaks thread and download a profile or two from there. It really improves the battery life and performance in most cases... All is not lost, my friend. If you do what I explained I am confident you will be much happier with your phone.
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jdubya42 said:
Exactly what Alcolawl said. The only reason I ever booted the stock ROM was to check "Allow OEM Unlocking". I am coming from a 6P and I have noticed absolutely no lag or stutter. The phone is a bit creaky, which I expected at a low price point, but the hardware is excellent. I didn't think anybody bought a Nexus and didn't unlock it and root it.
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Totally get where you guys are coming from. I used to root every device and flash custom Roms all the time. I was flashing custom roms on the G1 before most folks even knew what android was. I still have a Nexus 5 in my closet with paranoid Android on it as well as a 2012 Nexus 7 with paranoid Android that got so dead without charging that now it won't even boot. Man really wish I could figure out how to fix that one.
My point is that I guess I've gotten used to not having to play with custom Roms(or having any desire to) My hope was that I wouldn't need to get into all that that's all. I'll go through and unlock/root and flash some Roms and that will be that. Thanks for the advice.
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PiousInquisitor said:
If it isn't working for you sell it and buy something else. Simple as that.
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If you're gonna just be a smart ass gtfo my thread dude.
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I ran Q completely stock for awhile without any issues. I would definitely try a factory reset or flashing the stock images.
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I ran Q completely stock for awhile without any issues. I would definitely try a factory reset or flashing the stock images.
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I ended up clearing cahce on a lot of different apps and also realized that esfile explorer has a recylce bin. It was storing all my deleted files. Cleaned that out and whoosh, fast again. Still think I'll root and play with some Roms though.
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briandresstoyota said:
Totally get where you guys are coming from. I used to root every device and flash custom Roms all the time. I was flashing custom roms on the G1 before most folks even knew what android was. I still have a Nexus 5 in my closet with paranoid Android on it as well as a 2012 Nexus 7 with paranoid Android that got so dead without charging that now it won't even boot. Man really wish I could figure out how to fix that one.
My point is that I guess I've gotten used to not having to play with custom Roms(or having any desire to) My hope was that I wouldn't need to get into all that that's all. I'll go through and unlock/root and flash some Roms and that will be that. Thanks for the advice.
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If you go through with all this and flash a custom ROM & kernel, let me know how it compares to stock would you? I have a rooted/unlocked 6p which I LOVE but my wife wanted something easier to handle so we got her the 5x. Her's has similar issues overall but unfortunately she's not really for me messing with her phone (sigh, I know lol). Anyways, am curious for an honest opinion, especially with a pure Nexus/ex kernel combo as my 6p works a dream with that Just figured I'd ask if ya happen to do it, otherwise no worries. Thanks!!

ohlin5 said:
If you go through with all this and flash a custom ROM & kernel, let me know how it compares to stock would you? I have a rooted/unlocked 6p which I LOVE but my wife wanted something easier to handle so we got her the 5x. Her's has similar issues overall but unfortunately she's not really for me messing with her phone (sigh, I know lol). Anyways, am curious for an honest opinion, especially with a pure Nexus/ex kernel combo as my 6p works a dream with that Just figured I'd ask if ya happen to do it, otherwise no worries. Thanks!!
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Hey let me know what ROM/kernel you'd like me to try and I'll give it a whirl
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briandresstoyota said:
Hey let me know what ROM/kernel you'd like me to try and I'll give it a whirl
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Awesome thank you!! Try a purenexus/ex kernel combo and let me know what you think! Also, what carrier are you on? Don't suppose Verizon by chance right? I only ask as I read a few posts in that thread about VoLTE not working, which I found odd as it works perfectly on my 6p.

briandresstoyota said:
If you're gonna just be a smart ass gtfo my thread dude.
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I'm fully serious. My Moto X Pure wasn't working out for me so I sold it and bought this. If this phone didn't meet my expectations I'd buy a different phone. If the phone lags, sell it and buy something else that doesn't. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp.
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Hey let me know what ROM/kernel you'd like me to try and I'll give it a whirl
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have u tried some benchmark test? (in fresh firmware)
+ highly recommend CyanogenMod without any Mod.
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ohlin5 said:
Awesome thank you!! Try a purenexus/ex kernel combo and let me know what you think! Also, what carrier are you on? Don't suppose Verizon by chance right? I only ask as I read a few posts in that thread about VoLTE not working, which I found odd as it works perfectly on my 6p.
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I will totally give pure/ex combo a shot. Unfortunately I am on att
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briandresstoyota said:
I will totally give pure/ex combo a shot. Unfortunately I am on att
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No worries, I'll look forward to your response! Thanks again!

Wait! I just realized I don't have a USB c to a cord. Anyone rooted without a computer?
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