[Q] Battery problems - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
'Noob' here, be gentle, please.
My original Desire is 2.5 years old. So is the battery that started playing up.
It didn't last long and the phone kept suddenly switching off at about 50%. I guess it's a pretty common problem: Htc Desire Shuts down at 40-50% battery
So, I've bought a new one, "aoonen".
The new problem is that it stacks at 15% when charging.
The LED light turns green and it shows in the Status: Battery status - Full, Battery level - 15%.
Sometimes after plugging out an back in it starts charging and shows 16-17% for some time, but soon it stops and shows 15% again.
If the phone is switched off, the LED turns to amber and remains amber, but the battery seems not to be charging as the phone remains cool and it's the same 15% when switched back on in few hours.
It's original HTC charger and cable, but I did try other cables and PC USB ports to no avail.
Factory reset did not help.
Neither did booting to recovery with wiping all caches and battery statistics.
If I replace the new battery with the old one it shows 100%.
Android 2.3.7 installed by my son (I am no expert in this) in Nov 2012.
Kernel 2.6.37.6-cyanogenmod-g2a32ab1 [email protected] #31. I still have cm-7.2.0.1-bravo.zip on the SD card and used it for the recovery.
If it's of any importance, before buying the new battery I tried using some apps (uninstalled now) that didn't help: Battery Calibration and Easy Battery Calibration.
I like my Desire, I fits all my needs and I am very reluctant to replace it.
Will be grateful for any ideas and advices.

you deserve credit for researching your problem thoroughly .
to be honest, just sounds like a fake/counterfeit battery. it doesn't look like a reputable brand to me.
you've tried calibrating the original battery and still get early shutdowns?
i take it you still need a new one, personally i would recommend official battery if you can find it, you get what you pay for.

I have wrote about same issue in this forum
You have src shots also in my thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275048
I have order new bat but I am still waiting for it.
Did you try to wipe battery stats through cwm? Battery calibration should do this but you can try manual also through cwm?
If nothing helps try new battery. Maybe new one is fake.
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eddiehk6 said:
to be honest, just sounds like a fake/counterfeit battery. it doesn't look like a reputable brand to me.
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It was mentioned somewhere as a good brand. And what's the point in faking/counterfeiting some unreputable brand? This was exactly my thought that a 'genuine' battery is far more likely to be fake.
you've tried calibrating the original battery and still get early shutdowns?
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TBH, I have no idea how to calibrate it. I just ran the above apps (one, later another) and they said that it was calibrated, but nothing changed.
i take it you still need a new one, personally i would recommend official battery if you can find it, you get what you pay for.
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"if you can find it" - absolutely. Any recomendations?
Also, my battery is BB99100, but often I see BA S410 for Desire that looks similarly. What's the difference?
lifeiswisdom said:
I have wrote about same issue in this forum
You have src shots also in my thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275048
I have order new bat but I am still waiting for it.
Did you try to wipe battery stats through cwm? Battery calibration should do this but you can try manual also through cwm?
If nothing helps try new battery. Maybe new one is fake.
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What's 'cwm'?

grumbler said:
It was mentioned somewhere as a good brand. And what's the point in faking/counterfeiting some unreputable brand? This was exactly my thought that a 'genuine' battery is far more likely to be fake.
TBH, I have no idea how to calibrate it. I just ran the above apps (one, later another) and they said that it was calibrated, but nothing changed.
"if you can find it" - absolutely. Any recomendations?
Also, my battery is BB99100, but often I see BA S410 for Desire that looks similarly. What's the difference?
What's 'cwm'?
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no, i've never replaced my original battery after nearly 3 years now probably should, so can't give any recommendations as to where to buy one.
it's a minefield, but be thankful that it's relatively easy to buy a replacement, unlike some new high end phones.
calibration should only be done with proper apps, this is the only one i know of that works, you have to find and follow the instructions carefully, though i've never done it myself. my battery still dies anywhere in between 15% and to 6%, which i can live with and just gotten used to. however if yours is dying at 40-50% it's likely that it's aged beyond its working life.
cwm is short for clockworkmod, he is suggesting you wipe battery stats there, but this myth has been debunked for a while that it does not calibrate the battery in any way.

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me too, i dont know

eddiehk6 said:
cwm is short for clockworkmod, he is suggesting you wipe battery stats there, but this myth has been debunked for a while that it does not calibrate the battery in any way.
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Wiping bat stats - you will get fresh and accurate information about new battery usage. Thats all.
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eddiehk6 said:
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calibration should only be done with proper apps, [To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages. After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding!] is the only one i know of that works, you have to find and follow the instructions carefully, though i've never done it myself. .
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Some user says there: "You must read the tutorial on XDA if you want this to work. Follow it step by step."
Anybody knows where it is at XDA?
The censored link was to "Battery Calibrator" app by Jon Richards

Real calibration is done by:
- wait until the battery is completely empty and the phone shuts down
- insert a charger immediately but leave the phone OFF
- wait until the phone is fully charged
This worked perfectly for me!
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grumbler said:
Some user says there: "You must read the tutorial on XDA if you want this to work. Follow it step by step."
Anybody knows where it is at XDA?
The censored link was to "Battery Calibrator" app by Jon Richards
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took a bit of searching around, but here
ignore the fact it is in nexus one thread, works for desire and compatible kernel, read carefully, try and see if it makes a difference.

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battery caliberation

hello people , i need an advice on an issue, my phone has been shutting down on 10% , i've tried several caliberation methods found on xda , but none succeeded to solve my problem, my battery status is "good" so it's not a "faulty battery issue" . so if anyone has a usefull link, or can recommend a working method i'd be grateful
not sure there is a genuine method theres loads of "wives tales" on the web but i think its a case of turning apps off and having a power control widget.
some of the calibration methods are rumored to cook the battery to
Some roms shut down at 10%, some earlier, some later. Just stick with it.
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MatDrOiD said:
Some roms shut down at 10%, some earlier, some later. Just stick with it.
TouchPaled from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App
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i'm using cool3D aceS v2a , and i haven't seen anyone complaining about it, so i don't think it's a rom issue, pretty sure it's has to do with caliberation, but can't find any working method
rayiskon said:
i'm using cool3D aceS v2a , and i haven't seen anyone complaining about it, so i don't think it's a rom issue, pretty sure it's has to do with caliberation, but can't find any working method
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Maybe it does not disturb the people?!
Already tried this method:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11823-battery-calibration-thread
rayiskon said:
i'm using cool3D aceS v2a , and i haven't seen anyone complaining about it, so i don't think it's a rom issue, pretty sure it's has to do with caliberation, but can't find any working method
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It's by design. HTC phoned shut down like this to protect the battery from breaking. Truly going to 0% will ruin a Li on battery and render it useless. All desires do this out of the box.
There is one method that fakes it so that when it is really at 10-15%, it fakes it to show 1% but I forget what it is.
It's all pointless really
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I also had this issue last night. Phone powered down with my batt at 10%. Does not bother me now after reading matdroid and rootsu's post and understanding that it will save my batt from breaking.
But I think adjusting it from previous 10% to maybe 5% which i think is still safe would be great. Only question is how
thanks guys
jesseuy said:
I also had this issue last night. Phone powered down with my batt at 10%. Does not bother me now after reading matdroid and rootsu's post and understanding that it will save my batt from breaking.
But I think adjusting it from previous 10% to maybe 5% which i think is still safe would be great. Only question is how
thanks guys
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i remember on froyo and some GB roms i could go beyond 10% , i also think 5% would be the best option, pretty sure it can be done in a way or another

Battery dies at 18%

Hi, for the past few weeks my phone has constantly died at 18%.
I've tried resetting battery stats in recovery, I've done this when the battery is empty and when at full charge.
I've changed ROMs, a couple of times recently, always doing a factory reset, wiping everything available in recovery. No change.
Is there a trick to correcting this or could it be a fault with the battery itself?
Cheers.
Try this calibration instead : http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=723
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
If what "rares1235" didnt work then you could try this, its worked for me everytime. It works on ROMS with gingerbread and Sense. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534892
ianthenut said:
Hi, for the past few weeks my phone has constantly died at 18%.
I've tried resetting battery stats in recovery, I've done this when the battery is empty and when at full charge.
I've changed ROMs, a couple of times recently, always doing a factory reset, wiping everything available in recovery. No change.
Is there a trick to correcting this or could it be a fault with the battery itself?
Cheers.
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There are a lot of calibration methods, but in the end, if none works, you should probably have to buy another battery. It happened to me, died at 60% or so. Well, with so much flashing and flashing it isn't a surprise, is it..
I think this is one of the cheapest offers. handtec.co.uk/product.php/2763/htc-desire-official-battery--ba-s410-
with best regards
Ravens97 said:
If what "rares1235" didnt work then you could try this, its worked for me everytime. It works on ROMS with gingerbread and Sense. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534892
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This method actually works, I had to use the detour but I got it done eventually!
Came from Runnymede 6.1.1 ROM and the battery calibrator wouldn't take the first 6 times.. It would just tell me that my battery age was 100% eventhough I found that quite hard to believe, since my Desire is already 18 months old..
For that reason I flashed Cyanogenmod and did the battery calibration on that rom and it worked! After that I just flashed runnymede back with droidzones kernel22 and now my phone shuts down at 0%-1% instead of 15-16 like it was before!
Definately advice you to try out this method!
Thanks to theGanymedes and others for sure
Is the desire not supposed to shutdown at 15% anyway as a form of protection? All these calibrations do is change the numbers.
nicka3200 said:
Is the desire not supposed to shutdown at 15% anyway as a form of protection? All these calibrations do is change the numbers.
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Quote from what RootSu told me when i asked this question on here before.
"It's because Li-on batteries break if they get down to 0%. HTC set their phones up to shut down between 10-15%. All phones with li-on do this.
However most phones show that 10-15% as 0% but HTC tend not to.
There is an app called nexus one battery calibrator, which if you have the correct kernel, will change that 10-15% to show as 0%. Obviously, as it effectively turns 75% into 100%, it appears to drain faster. It's not
I don't know if your kernel supports this. The general tab in the app won't have any numbers if the kernel does not.
There are some complex settings needed in the app and a specific process to follow if you wanted to do this though"

New battery for Galaxy Nexus i9250

Hi,
Recently my battery stopped charging beyond the 89% mark and now people say that I need to get a new battery. I'm thinking if I should I may go for a long lasting one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-Ori...ccessories&hash=item2a22467775#ht_2796wt_1397
But I've heard that as the NFC key is encrypted in the battery people have had issues where the NFC stopped working or such. What should I check for to guarantee that it wouldn't be the case with this one?
Thanks in advance for your help.
P.S.: Still for the time being if someone can help with the 89% charge issue, that'd be great.
ginobili1 said:
Hi,
Recently my battery stopped charging beyond the 89% mark and now people say that I need to get a new battery. I'm thinking if I should I may go for a long lasting one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-Ori...ccessories&hash=item2a22467775#ht_2796wt_1397
But I've heard that as the NFC key is encrypted in the battery people have had issues where the NFC stopped working or such. What should I check for to guarantee that it wouldn't be the case with this one?
Thanks in advance for your help.
P.S.: Still for the time being if someone can help with the 89% charge issue, that'd be great.
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Battery is just holding the NFC antenna.
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ginobili1 said:
Hi,
Recently my battery stopped charging beyond the 89% mark and now people say that I need to get a new battery. I'm thinking if I should I may go for a long lasting one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-Ori...ccessories&hash=item2a22467775#ht_2796wt_1397
But I've heard that as the NFC key is encrypted in the battery people have had issues where the NFC stopped working or such. What should I check for to guarantee that it wouldn't be the case with this one?
Thanks in advance for your help.
P.S.: Still for the time being if someone can help with the 89% charge issue, that'd be great.
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The battery only contains an antenna for NFC. The actual NFC chip is in the phone itself.
Oh ok! Thanks for the correction guys.
Does this mean that I can safely go with any battery out there? Or the one that I linked?
ginobili1 said:
Oh ok! Thanks for the correction guys.
Does this mean that I can safely go with any battery out there? Or the one that I linked?
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The one you linked to appears to be a Samsung battery. It will support NFC. If you buy a battery without an NFC antenna, it will still power your phone but NFC won't work.
If you are on Sprint you can call telesales and they will send you the extended battery and door for free just pay for shipping. The extended batt is a 2100Mah instead of the 1850Mah original.
Col. Sanders said:
If you are on Sprint you can call telesales and they will send you the extended battery and door for free just pay for shipping. The extended batt is a 2100Mah instead of the 1850Mah original.
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OP is using a GSM nexus, he's from Canada
Thanks guys for all your help. Just ordered the battery from the link above. Hope that it works fine and at least would be a good upgrade from the stock one.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
ginobili1 said:
Thanks guys for all your help. Just ordered the battery from the link above. Hope that it works fine and at least would be a good upgrade from the stock one.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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I plan on buying the Samsung 2000mAh battery myself as soon as my current one becomes insufficient.
Well the current one that I have started dying on me twice a day without any drastic changes to my usage. So I think it was a faulty one anyway before this issue started.
Will see how the 2000mAh one fares for my heavy use.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Petrovski80 said:
I plan on buying the Samsung 2000mAh battery myself as soon as my current one becomes insufficient.
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+1
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I just tried the battery and it still won't charge beyond the 84% mark now. So I'm now completely confused on what to do with it? Does anyone has any clue? I'm using the Franco Kernel, does it have anything to do with that?
Thanks.
ginobili1 said:
I just tried the battery and it still won't charge beyond the 84% mark now. So I'm now completely confused on what to do with it? Does anyone has any clue? I'm using the Franco Kernel, does it have anything to do with that?
Thanks.
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One way to find out- try a different kernel. If that doesn't work, try a factory reset. If that doesn't work, try a different rom. If it still does the same thing, it's time for a new phone.
najaboy said:
One way to find out- try a different kernel. If that doesn't work, try a factory reset. If that doesn't work, try a different rom. If it still does the same thing, it's time for a new phone.
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Thanks... I will try that and update... though all these issues with the Nexus are really making me think if I should get the next one or not?
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ginobili1 said:
Thanks... I will try that and update... though all these issues with the Nexus are really making me think if I should get the next one or not?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Tried a different ROM and the stock kernel. Doesn't help. The charging still stops at 89% or whatever random number it wants to. I really don't want to send this back, I just hope there was a way to fix it.
But I think the way back is the only way. Will talk to my carrier then.
Thanks guys for all your help. :good:
Same problem here...
After upgrading to 4.2.1, battery stoped charging to 100%
Now charges to 64%, and if I remove it goes down to 4% then increase around 30%
Not sure if the problem is with the battery.
Tried eveything else aound: Kernels, Stock Brazilian ROM (all versions), Stock Google Images, MIUI, CM9, CM10 and CM10.1
Really sad about that.
Sorry for tha bad engrish...
rogelin said:
Same problem here...
After upgrading to 4.2.1, battery stoped charging to 100%
Now charges to 64%, and if I remove it goes down to 4% then increase around 30%
Not sure if the problem is with the battery.
Tried eveything else aound: Kernels, Stock Brazilian ROM (all versions), Stock Google Images, MIUI, CM9, CM10 and CM10.1
Really sad about that.
Sorry for tha bad engrish...
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I have the exact same problem after just 2 months of using this device. The problem first happened when i upgraded to the 4.2.1 takju JOPD firmware! The phone almost goes dead in 6hrs with minimal talk time, and a charge stops at 84%!
Unfortunately, I got this device while in the US from playstore, and now I am back in India. Not even sure of the warranty coz I have rooted this device.
Can anyone please advice?
I'm not sure if this could help, but have you tried draining your battery first (until it powers off) and then charging it to full without turning it on? I've read somewhere (don't remember where but I think it was here on xda) that the battery statistics become more inaccurate over time if you don't drain it to zero at times. I think it's called power cycling which is a good practice to have longer battery lifespan. I hope this helps
sivaseraphim said:
I'm not sure if this could help, but have you tried draining your battery first (until it powers off) and then charging it to full without turning it on? I've read somewhere (don't remember where but I think it was here on xda) that the battery statistics become more inaccurate over time if you don't drain it to zero at times. I think it's called power cycling which is a good practice to have longer battery lifespan. I hope this helps
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Actually, it shortens the battery lifespan exponentially. Full discharge of a lithium-ion battery is unhealthy. Likewise, complete power cycles shorten the battery's serviceable life.
If you suspect the battery's internal fuel gauge to be inaccurate, you could do this once in a blue moon, bearing in mind the unintended consequences.
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Col. Sanders said:
If you are on Sprint you can call telesales and they will send you the extended battery and door for free just pay for shipping. The extended batt is a 2100Mah instead of the 1850Mah original.
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Why would they give it to us free? I'm buying a G.Nexus this afternoon and a free extended battery would be awesome.

[Q] Small battery issue

Alright so I'm charging my phone (which was at 30%) and I do a quick reset, when it boots back up its at 100% 0_o, this happens pretty often. It's not a big deal was just wondering if anyone else Experiences this?
I've had it happen a handful of times. I haven't noticed any issues with battery life so I'm not worried about it.
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Kickstand Mafia said:
Alright so I'm charging my phone (which was at 30%) and I do a quick reset, when it boots back up its at 100% 0_o, this happens pretty often. It's not a big deal was just wondering if anyone else Experiences this?
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I actually had a similar issue when I was flashing another rom at about 30%. When the rom came up it had full battery. So right now I am trying to use hipkat's guide to calibrate my battery.
benb1987 said:
I actually had a similar issue when I was flashing another rom at about 30%. When the rom came up it had full battery. So right now I am trying to use hipkat's guide to calibrate my battery.
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I might try that, Is this guide on the forum?
Kickstand Mafia said:
Alright so I'm charging my phone (which was at 30%) and I do a quick reset, when it boots back up its at 100% 0_o, this happens pretty often. It's not a big deal was just wondering if anyone else Experiences this?
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Nope... Even I was on stock rom it never happened to me...
Will you specify your phone details...
Rom: CodeBox 1.4.0 Unofficial
Kernel: Horsepower 3.1 by fuss
If you like my post please hit thanks button...
Kickstand Mafia said:
I might try that, Is this guide on the forum?
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yea, i found the guide here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386911
i just finished the calibration on my phone and so far so good.
It happens to me often. However, you will probably notice the battery life sink like a BRICK out of a plane, but it will stabilize somewhere around the correct battery reading.
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Battery won't show charge past 70%. Please HELP!

Hi Guys,
I have spent days researching this, and have read dozens of forum posts, but nothing has worked. Here's the problem- I bought a used GNEX off of Craigslist. The phone looks great and seems to work well. But, it won't show a charge beyond about 70%.
I thought the battery might be the issue, so i bought an a new OEM extended battery, but the new battery didn't make any difference. It still won't show a charge above 70% no matter how long I leave it on the charger (with the phone turned on or off). I have done probably 20 discharge/recharge cycles, but nothing changes.
Next, I bought an external charger. When I fully charge the battery in the external charger and pop it in the phone, it still shows around 70%. So, it is definitely an issue with the phone (not the batteries).
I've also tried four different ROMs, as well as all the black-magic "battery calibration" tricks found in the forums, but nothing helps.
I am totally stumped! Is there anyway I can fix this?
Thanks!
Slim
Please HELP! More info.
Hi guys,
Just an update. Yesterday I tried three different kernels, just in case that might make a difference. No luck. The kernels didn't make a difference.
Any advice on how I can make this phone handle battery levels correctly? It's been on the charger all night and only shows 66% charge.
-Slim
Same here !
reza2224 said:
Same here !
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Hey, Reza. How long has your GNEX been having this problem?
You might try returning to stock to see if eliminating custom ROMs helps.
imthepits said:
You might try returning to stock to see if eliminating custom ROMs helps.
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Thanks. I actually already tried that. Took it back to completely stock, unrooted. No dice. The issue was still there. I am stumped!. I hope it's not a hardware issue.
SlimKermie said:
Hey, Reza. How long has your GNEX been having this problem?
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I have this phone about six months,but couple days age after I tried to install cm10.1 carch up with this problem.
Changing custom rom,returning to stock,callibrating , every thing I tried didn't work.
Firs it stops about 98,then after a recharge it stops @ 95 ,then 90 and now it does'nt exceed 87.
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Same problem
reza2224 said:
I have this phone about six months,but couple days age after I tried to install cm10.1 carch up with this problem.
Changing custom rom,returning to stock,callibrating , every thing I tried didn't work.
Firs it stops about 98,then after a recharge it stops @ 95 ,then 90 and now it does'nt exceed 87.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Same issue here, i tried with another battery that showed 95% in other Gnex and in my gnex showed 60%.....
I'm getting crazy!
Definitely a hardware issue.
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try an app named "BatteryCalibration" by marosige. When opened it shows the in circuit battery voltage. 3600-3700mV is to be expected from a well charged and in good shape battery. We seam to be having the same issues with mine having progressed to showing 0%. I have a recent thread here as well. I have read that the recovery battery stat wipe is just for the application level, but I think there must be a file or setting somewhere that maps mV to %'s and that this is what needs wiped/reset.
Anyone overhere still having issues?
I updated my thread on a similar if not the same problem, and am looking for some volunteers to help gather a little data. I would like for one or more persons to install SL4A and python, run a script and report findings. If you are willing please post a reply in my thread.
Thank you

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