Warrant Voided at Flash Counter = 1 ? - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

After flashing twrp, rooting, and flashing a rom my counter is at 1 even though i used the guide that said it would not trip the counter.
The counter stays at 1 even when flashing more things through recovery.
I read somewhere that if the flash counter is at 1 the warranty is not voided, and only if it is more than 1 it is voided. is this true?
Ive called samsung but they were giving me some weird answers and they had no idea what they were talking about.

Use triangle away app.
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Won't matter on new firmware. Stop worrying about the flash counter.

Aerowinder said:
Won't matter on new firmware. Stop worrying about the flash counter.
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what?

Stop worrying about flash counter.

Aerowinder said:
Stop worrying about flash counter.
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But doesnt it affect the status of the warranty?

Yes but it can be easily reset with triangle away.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Yes but it can be easily reset with triangle away.
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yes i understand this, but i was asking if the warranty is voided when the flash counter is >1 or >0 ?

Since we got updated to jb, the way the counter works changed. If I remember right, it will always show 1 if you have a custom recovery or kernel installed.
I keep stock recovery and use Mobile Odin for my flashing needs.
If you need to, just reset with triangle away and reflash stock firmware.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Since we got updated to jb, the way the counter works changed. If I remember right, it will always show 1 if you have a custom recovery or kernel installed.
I keep stock recovery and use Mobile Odin for my flashing needs.
If you need to, just reset with triangle away and reflash stock firmware.
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Alright thanks for the clarification. It all makes sense now.

chromium96 said:
yes i understand this, but i was asking if the warranty is voided when the flash counter is >1 or >0 ?
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Technically, yes it voids your warranty. But if you're worried about that you may not want to root to begin with as that also voids it.
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Flash counter?

I need to send my phone back to T-Mobile because Im trading it for an s3 to my friend. Nothing is wrong with the phone he just wants a refurbished one. Now im wondering where is the flash counter located if any. I put it in download mode and it didn't say anything mmaybe I am looking at the wrong place?
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seedofchaos said:
I need to send my phone back to T-Mobile because Im trading it for an s3 to my friend. Nothing is wrong with the phone he just wants a refurbished one. Now im wondering where is the flash counter located if any. I put it in download mode and it didn't say anything mmaybe I am looking at the wrong place?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1578184
Flash the file in that thread. Then boot to download mode and check to see if you get a "NO" for custom binary
I didn't install it because im worried about brick, but it does say "no" where it needs to. Kind if wierd correct me if im mistaking but I rooted through Odin shouldn't it be at least one? Or am I fine to send it in.
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seedofchaos said:
I didn't install it because im worried about brick, but it does say "no" where it needs to. Kind if wierd correct me if im mistaking but I rooted through Odin shouldn't it be at least one? Or am I fine to send it in.
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There's no risk of brick, no one has had an issue because of this. But in any case, you're fine with a no. The counter is only tripped when you flash a custom kernel through Odin (rom and recovery is fine). When you first went through the root process, all you did was flash a recovery through Odin, thus you didn't trip the counter. So to go back to stock you should do this in order if your counter hasn't tripped:
1)flash stock kernel through cwm/twrp
2)flash stock rom/recovery through Odin
That way you don't trip the counter.
seedofchaos said:
I didn't install it because im worried about brick, but it does say "no" where it needs to. Kind if wierd correct me if im mistaking but I rooted through Odin shouldn't it be at least one? Or am I fine to send it in.
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you didn't technically root through odin, you just flash a recovery through odin and that doesn't trigger the flash counter for some reason.
Do not flash that flash counter, it's been reported that its been causing bricks
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bmakk2055 said:
Do not flash that flash counter, it's been reported that its been causing bricks
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2 people bricked out of countless that didn't brick, including myself and mrx. Those two people either had a bad download, or, more than likely did something stupid. In the case of a bad download, mrx switched file hosts so that shouldn't be an issue.
The saying in favor of gun rights applies here too: zips don't brick phones, people brick phones.
yoft1 said:
There's no risk of brick, no one has had an issue because of this. But in any case, you're fine with a no. The counter is only tripped when you flash a custom kernel through Odin (rom and recovery is fine). When you first went through the root process, all you did was flash a recovery through Odin, thus you didn't trip the counter. So to go back to stock you should do this in order if your counter hasn't tripped:
1)flash stock kernel through cwm/twrp
2)flash stock rom/recovery through Odin
That way you don't trip the counter.
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Will it matter if I have ics if I flash stock kernal? And if so would it be a problem if I flashed the Rom directly after through Odin?
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Triangle away

This is going to be my first time using the triangle away app and i checked the counter flash and it says 1 but i know that ive flashed custom firmwares waaaay more than that.. i recently swtiched from jb back to ics so every time i do a full wipe the counter flash restarts??
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lagunas11 said:
This is going to be my first time using the triangle away app and i checked the counter flash and it says 1 but i know that ive flashed custom firmwares waaaay more than that.. i recently swtiched from jb back to ics so every time i do a full wipe the counter flash restarts??
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The flash counter only changes when you ODIN something. Anything happening in recovery doesnt change the flash counter. And ive used Triangle Away and it successfully resets it to zero regardless how many times youve ODIN something.
elesbb said:
The flash counter only changes when you ODIN something. Anything happening in recovery doesnt change the flash counter. And ive used Triangle Away and it successfully resets it to zero regardless how many times youve ODIN something.
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My flash counter went to 1 when I did CWM recovery....
psykhotic said:
My flash counter went to 1 when I did CWM recovery....
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And I'm sure you flashed CWM recovery through ODIN.
belly1026 said:
And I'm sure you flashed CWM recovery through ODIN.
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:good:
I read his post wrong.
elesbb said:
The flash counter only changes when you ODIN something. Anything happening in recovery doesnt change the flash counter. And ive used Triangle Away and it successfully resets it to zero regardless how many times youve ODIN something.
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Umm so the flash counter changes everytime i flash something through cwm??
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lagunas11 said:
Umm so the flash counter changes everytime i flash something through cwm??
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I'm pretty sure that's the exact opposite of what he just said.

[Q] can triangle away set your device to be returned for warranty?

I am at a loss as Triangle away can set your counter back to zero and remove the triangle icon. My question is how would I use it to return the device for warranty or is it more just to get rid of the triangle icon? I am asking because its a Root app and doesn't just rooting your phone period void the warranty? if their is a way to use this app so i can do a warranty return I would LOVE TO KNOW. Since this is a root app I am thinking i would have to somehow use one of the non trip counter rooters to root to a stock rom. Please bear with me as this is my first root.
Double check with someone who's done it before but I think u use the app to reset the counter and then use Odin to flash a stock rom. The stock rom should take away root and official roms don't trip counter in Odin so u don't need triangle away a second time
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otariq said:
Double check with someone who's done it before but I think u use the app to reset the counter and then use Odin to flash a stock rom. The stock rom should take away root and official roms don't trip counter in Odin so u don't need triangle away a second time
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Yes sir... If you are going to return it use triangle away then flash stock firmware in Dev section thru Odin. That will give you stock recovery, rom. A member theexel has a nice thread given you step by step. All set after that!
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warranty void

will flashing the rom void my warranty?
something like flash count in there or something?
without rooting how u will get cwm recovery ?
and rooting will result in warranty void...
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You can revert to official to claim warranty using Triangle Away, then flash official ROM. Then everything will be reset to official.
To use Triangle Away your phone must be rooted.
Flashing a Stock ROM using Odin will not void your warranty.
Flashing a custom recovery and then flashing a custom ROM will increase your binary counter and hence void your warranty.
If you are unaware of the terminologies that I used, please use Google to understand them.
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xenon92 said:
Flashing a Stock ROM using Odin will not void your warranty.
Flashing a custom recovery and then flashing a custom ROM will increase your binary counter and hence void your warranty.
If you are unaware of the terminologies that I used, please use Google to understand them.
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cant it be fixed with triangle app?
vipul955 said:
cant it be fixed with triangle app?
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For usimlng triangle away you must be rooted.
Flashing official firmware will make your device official and bin counter will be 0
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For usimlng triangle away you must be rooted.
Flashing official firmware will make your device official and bin counter will be 0
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that means whenever i want to give i just have to stock flash and before it triangle app. and when last time flashing stock it wont increase the counter?
vipul955 said:
that means whenever i want to give i just have to stock flash and before it triangle app. and when last time flashing stock it wont increase the counter?
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In order to claim back your warranty. First run Triangle Away to reset the bin counter on your rooted ROM. Then flash Official ROM through ODIN. Remember after flashing Official ROM, go into recovery mode to reset to factory settings. Then your device will become Official again.
soralz said:
In order to claim back your warranty. First run Triangle Away to reset the bin counter on your rooted ROM. Then flash Official ROM through ODIN. Remember after flashing Official ROM, go into recovery mode to reset to factory settings. Then your device will become Official again.
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Remember after using triangle away.. Never tried to go Cwm recovery it will increase bin counter.. So flash directly through odin after use of triangle away....
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Remember after using triangle away.. Never tried to go Cwm recovery it will increase bin counter.. So flash directly through odin after using triangle away
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Without using triangle away can't I flash stock firmware through odin?
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Without using triangle away can't I flash stock firmware through odin?
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Yes you may flash the stock ROM even without using Triangle Away, but you binary counter will be greater than zero. To reset it back to zero, u need to use triangle away just like rejocie001 said before you flash stock ROM for warranty claims.
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Link to stock firmware?

I have to reset my phone to send it in for warranty work. Can anybody link me to the factory image, preferably on a host with better than dial-up speeds? I keep trying the one in the sticky but since it goes through a BS host that wants a "premium" membership the download keeps ending prematurely.
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2363213
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Thanks a ton!
Buddy,
If you flashed anything, even once, it will show.
This phone has a counter.
I just went through this.
So if you just reflash stock, they will know and your guarantee will be voided !!!
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vlad2277 said:
Buddy,
If you flashed anything, even once, it will show.
This phone has a counter.
I just went through this.
So if you just reflash stock, they will know and your guarantee will be voided !!!
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Use Triangle-Away to reset the flash counter before you return to stock and it's all good.
vlad2277 said:
Buddy,
If you flashed anything, even once, it will show.
This phone has a counter.
I just went through this.
So if you just reflash stock, they will know and your guarantee will be voided !!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336392
Go to sammobile.com you can find alk the firmware there. Also before you odin flash stock do triangle away to reset counter. Because you need root for that.

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