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Open Letter to XDA Regarding strongsteve

In regards to what happened with strongsteve earlier this evening, I hope that you will come to the realization that you made a mistake. I know that you are attempting to work it out with Steve directly, but that resolution could, and should, be an admission of your misstep and immediate correction of the error.
I don't think anyone on here would argue with your logic in breaking the forums up into general topics. But in this case, the area was gray at best. If all of Steve's users and supporters knew his work and his information to be in the Dev section, what is the harm in leaving it in the Dev section? Instead, you so insulted a great contributor to the point that he felt compelled to shut his project down. I would strongly argue that that is far more harmful than having Steve's work appear in the Dev section of the forum.
I'm not suggesting that the notion of sub-forums be removed. We can't have chaos here. But in the case of something so gray, something so questionable, you made a bad call. Hell, I'm sure it is just a matter of time before this thread gets moved. But I wanted Steve and his supporters to read this, and this is the sub-forum they are trolling.
So I ask you to simply right your wrong. Because if you don't, a great many of us are going to miss out on some fantastic DEV WORK that Steve is doing.

So what I miss?
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locoboi187 said:
So what I miss?
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Mod:
This is clearly a themed ROM - using a base that is a deodexed base of the stock ROM. This is not an Original Development ROM, but is a themed ROM - so it is moved to Themes & Apps. It is entirely appropriate to place themed ROMs in the Themes section.
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Steve:
I will no longer be supporting these roms or developing any more odexed modded roms since they are not considered worthy for the Dev section
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Just read his threads. His work is original development. Go read a dictionary for "develop" ... Jerdog is in the wrong. Taking away CIQ is not a theme either lol. He was the first to have it odexed, it is original
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I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao

SupahDave said:
I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao
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I'm more civilized compared to others when it comes to moving threads. It's the internet,nbd lol
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in b4 lock

Also in regards to "original" development. This isn't the international thread for the galaxy s2. They have separate sections for original development and the other normal development. We have one, it's called development, and the developer was only developing
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just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint

These guys are rough.
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T.C.P said:
just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint
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+100000000
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Not to troll but I'm sure this thread will be closed in a few so I'd like to comment about this situation.. I don't know the full jist but I would think that we as a community would do anything in our power to keep these devs happy cause without them we got NOTHING...Well maybe Rootzwiki but Like I just said....NADA!!! So I support Steve all the way!!!

Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have. Looking over the thread I can see how this decision by the mods is heavy handed.

What ROM did Steve make?

psych2l said:
Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have.
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Agree with this.
one less dev. not cool.

jerdog said:
I think you missed the point here - no one is saying what has been done here isn't worthy - quite the contrary. This is an effort to move things that are original development and separate them from things that are MOD's and Themes. There is a difference between creating a ROM from scratch and theming someone else's work by taking pieces from here and there, making changes and then zipping it up into an update.zip.
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This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!

This is not a school we are grown people that are subpose to make a community of something we enjoy since when did everyone get there panties In a twist and further more I like to see the moderator Dec anything cause last time I check every rom has sprints of base and everey. Rom thread has thank yous to other devs. Tweaks . Let us work together cause if stuff like this keeps happening people are gonna start jumping ship to rootswiki it ppc. And that's my 2 cents VERY DISAPPOINTED XDA!
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ervman1 said:
This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!
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Yes, you can flash separate mods if you are deodexed, but Steve odexed some of those mods that otherwise were only meant to be used on deodexed roms by their original developers. As I understand, he was working on odexing others as well. In addition, the other roms on here include all sorts of mods created by others. The all also give credit where credit is due, Steve included as stated previously.
Please leave Strongsteve's roms in the dev section as he has created the only odexed roms with the goodies we all want to have and was continually adding more as he revised the original mods to be compatible with an odexed rom.

PLEASE!! be nice to Strongsteve's he does deserve the respect..... at the same time I wanna give a shoutout to Strongsteve's for all the great job he has done. I thank you very much.

I totally agree with this and feel they are way off base. I support strongsteve fully.
It takes a lot to admit being wrong but that is what needs to happen here from mods.
It was nice to finally see odexed getting some respect not to mention the dev section for this phone finally getting a good amount of activity.
A good thing has been taken away. Please reconsider.
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Can somebody make a new thread on general forum?

I think we need a new thread on general about 4.2.1 discussion and issues. another thread about 4.1.2 This is for CM, AOKP vanilla roms. I would make the thread but I have no experience in putting all of these together

I would but no uses them they love to clutter the dev ROMs with the same stuff over and over and over. I tried to get a CM 10.1 thread going based off my CM10 thread, lasted for about 4 posts lol
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mt3g said:
I would but no uses them they love to clutter the dev ROMs with the same stuff over and over and over. I tried to get a CM 10.1 thread going based off my CM10 thread, lasted for about 4 posts lol
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Lmao there is a thread like that on the s2 forum. It was very useful to find what issues these roms have.
Right now we dont have a thread like that. That can tell users including me and keep up with the issues and bugs these roms may have.

Maybe I'll really start working on the rom bible.
Here's the CM10/.1 thread I gave up on cause no uses it lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813456

I'm making the "ROM bible now", only reviewing and giving a lost of mods on threads that have at least 50,000 views. I will create a link to others and label them as TW or AOSP influenced.
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gypsy214 said:
I think we need a new thread on general about 4.2.1 discussion and issues. another thread about 4.1.2 This is for CM, AOKP vanilla roms. I would make the thread but I have no experience in putting all of these together
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How to make a new thread

[Q] Just got a new Note II

Hi all! I'm new to this forum I'd like to ask for recommendations for ROMs to flash on my Note II.
I had a DHD before and mainly used AOKP ROMs on it, though I'd like to try touch wiz some more since it's not as much as a battery juice hog compared to SenseUI.

It all depends what you want. Do you want a samsungless rom in the sense that it is just android or would you like a samsung rom with a stock look
If you can be a little more specific i can be more specific.
Currently i am using dualnote 5.0 which is a debloated, samsung key apps featuring rom with a stock jelly bean theme
It has snote and scalender and it also look like jellybean the combonation i wanted
What combonation do you want
-looks
-battery
-speed
-nerve tingling
Hope to hear from you!
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hamzahqaisar1995 said:
It all depends what you want. Do you want a samsungless rom in the sense that it is just android or would you like a samsung rom with a stock look
If you can be a little more specific i can be more specific.
Currently i am using dualnote 5.0 which is a debloated, samsung key apps featuring rom with a stock jelly bean theme
It has snote and scalender and it also look like jellybean the combonation i wanted
What combonation do you want
-looks
-battery
-speed
-nerve tingling
Hope to hear from you!
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I think it'll be best for me to find out myself of what ROM will I be liking. Thanks a lot for the input, I appreciate it.
Maybe I'll try out a buffed/tweak version of the stock 4.2.1 ROM if there's any since I'm starting to like the Touch wiz dock

Looks like hamza got trolled. Lolz. Such fun at xda.
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plskillme said:
Hi all! I'm new to this forum I'd like to ask for recommendations for ROMs to flash on my Note II.
I had a DHD before and mainly used AOKP ROMs on it, though I'd like to try touch wiz some more since it's not as much as a battery juice hog compared to SenseUI.
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Why start a New thread on such a question that has been posted thousands of times and has a million different answers all over this forum? And then you come to a conclusion where the whole point of this thread is proven to be completely useless.
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jamesc760 said:
Looks like hamza got trolled. Lolz. Such fun at xda.
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I was not even trying to troll. Sorry to end your fun. Welcome to the internet where you thought people are not allowed to change their perspectives on things.
bushako said:
Why start a New thread on such a question that has been posted thousands of times and has a million different answers all over this forum? And then you come to a conclusion where the whole point of this thread is proven to be completely useless.
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Why comment on a thread which has been posted a thousands of times and has a million different answers all over this forum if it has been answered over this forum? Oh! I love the irony, that's just plain genius.
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Someone please close this thread before people of the likes of these two swarm and camp here.

plskillme said:
I was not even trying to troll. Sorry to end your fun. Welcome to the internet where you thought people are not allowed to change their perspectives on things.
Why comment on a thread which has been posted a thousands of times and has a million different answers all over this forum if it has been answered over this forum? Oh! I love the irony, that's just plain genius.
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Someone please close this thread before people of the likes of these two swarm and camp here.
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Because people like you make life harder for the people of our likes. People like you talk before thinking just like this thread you opened up. Enjoy your new note 2
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Jedi X11 or Jedi Master 10?

* Mod please move to Q&A. Thanks! *
Is there a list of the comparison of both ROMs? (Aside to the feature list on the front page.)
btw: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168093 ....is not very informative.
(Besides X11 being based on International vs X10 (TM base) w/ wifi)....
Note: Aside to the minor differences between the two, I figured this will also help satisfy future curiosities...it's always to have a simple answered post.

You answered your own question. That's it.... What they're based off and the features stated in the changelogs. After that it's personal preference. I tried Em both and loved them both equally. I have tmobile and though I don't use wifi calling.... I'd rather stick with the base. They're both awesome bro simple as that.
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Tweaked is the rom you want.
And this is the wrong section. Good day

Give them a try, see what you like. I am not running either right now but playing with tweaked. They have all been smooth and stable so you can't really go wrong. With that said you are a senior member since 2010, you know this is not the q&a section and this is not related to development hence does not belong in this section. If you click on the top left link for the tmobile samsung galaxy note 2 that will take you back a section where you will see different sections for general, q&a, themes, apps etc.. This post will be removed/or move based on moderator discretion since it's not in the correct place.

Well what are the odds...if it's simply just that then hey...Cheers! :highfive:
yungtexas said:
You answered your own question. That's it.... What they're based off and the features stated in the changelogs. After that it's personal preference. I tried Em both and loved them both equally. I have tmobile and though I don't use wifi calling.... I'd rather stick with the base. They're both awesome bro simple as that.
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I'll give Jedi Master 10 a shot...Thanks.
Ducter said:
Give them a try, see what you like. I am not running either right now but playing with tweaked. They have all been smooth and stable so you can't really go wrong. With that said you are a senior member since 2010, you know this is not the q&a section and this is not related to development hence does not belong in this section. If you click on the top left link for the tmobile samsung galaxy note 2 that will take you back a section where you will see different sections for general, q&a, themes, apps etc.. This post will be removed/or move based on moderator discretion since it's not in the correct place.
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I like the jedi

[Q] Which TW Rom do you believe is the best on AT&T Note II? Why?

I'm just curious and want to hear answers from you guys, what do you believe is the best TouchWiz ROM on the Note II? If you could list your pro's and con's I would greatly appreciate it.
Also, if you're running AOSP Roms, I'd like to hear your reason why you got away from TouchWiz?
Thanks in advance!

The best one is the one that suits your needs best! Why else would there be so many good ones to chose from? Try them and or read about them and find the one that you like. This will be closed soon I'm sure.
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Kreateablaze said:
The best one is the one that suits your needs best! Why else would there be so many good ones to chose from? Try them and or read about them and find the one that you like. This will be closed soon I'm sure.
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Clearly, you didn't read. I am just trying to start a conversation on what ROM you are running and why you like it the most. I'm not asking for myself so that I can flash a ROM.

I happen to like threads like these. I just hate when a bunch are opened. The whole idea that all roms are created equal is the silliest thing I've seen since youth sports that don't keep score. That said some roms are better than others depending on what your looking for.
My favorite thus far has been Wanamlite over in the 7105 forum. Works great on my ATT note. I've been testing out Jedi for the last day or so and it's been good, but I think I'm going back. Things like per app dpi and pie don't interest me at all and that's the only reason why. I lower the dpi all together and use a different launcher, phone, messaging and so on apps. Just like TW for multi-window and S-Pen.

mgianni19 said:
Clearly, you didn't read. I am just trying to start a conversation on what ROM you are running and why you like it the most. I'm not asking for myself so that I can flash a ROM.
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Still doesn't belong here. Your using the word "best" will surely cause a lot of drama and arguing over which is better.
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I use stock ...
It works the best for me. ..
Root is okay but no CPU changes, only a GPU overclock....g
I also use the stock kernel. ..g

brandonarev said:
Still doesn't belong here. Your using the word "best" will surely cause a lot of drama and arguing over which is better.
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Exactly . Threads like this are not allowed and im pretty sure all the stickies in each sub forum say so.
There is no best rom other than what suits you.
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All,
"Best Rom" threads are not condoned, they may serve a purpose for the immediate short term, but almost all the time they spiral into arguments about one over another - "Best" is a subjective term.
No more! All users are expected to read and study and flash the ones they are interested in and have discussion in the specific thread(s).
This thread is closed.