[Q] Problems and questions before rooting my HTC Desire - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey all! I am a beginner and i want to root my HTC Desire to install VJ CM10.1 Jelly Bean 4.2.2 Custom Rom. But i am having issues understanding some things before rooting. I am going for Unrevoked to root and flash CMW on my Desire. And then backup the stock Rom with CMW. I am having these issues:
1. The download link for the custom rom (VJ CM10.1 JB 4.2.2) of HTC Desire on this site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070704 gives two option for download. One is for 'Stock Hboot version' and the other is 'Sense/Data++'. How do i know if i have stock or sense/data++. Cause holding down volume and power button will only show the Hboot version e.g 0.75 or something. How do i know that i need my custom rom for stock or sense/data++? PS what is sense and data++?
2. Before flashing the custom rom i will backup my stock rom with CWM. And i think it would backup on the sd card? But after backing up when i will go for partitioning the sd card to have more internal memory and then install my VJ custom rom it will also delete my stock rom backup? right? So how do i store my stock rom backup before partitioning and formatting the sd card and then bring it back on the sd card to be later accessible by CWM?
3. If i will partition the sd card and run the a2sd script to move my apps to sd card, in which partition would it move to? And out of the two which partition would be available for me to use for like music, videos etc.
Any help would be highly appreciated! I am stuck on these issues

talha011 said:
Hey all! I am a beginner and i want to root my HTC Desire to install VJ CM10.1 Jelly Bean 4.2.2 Custom Rom. But i am having issues understanding some things before rooting. I am going for Unrevoked to root and flash CMW on my Desire. And then backup the stock Rom with CMW. I am having these issues:
1. The download link for the custom rom (VJ CM10.1 JB 4.2.2) of HTC Desire on this site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070704 gives two option for download. One is for 'Stock Hboot version' and the other is 'Sense/Data++'. How do i know if i have stock or sense/data++. Cause holding down volume and power button will only show the Hboot version e.g 0.75 or something. How do i know that i need my custom rom for stock or sense/data++? PS what is sense and data++?
2. Before flashing the custom rom i will backup my stock rom with CWM. And i think it would backup on the sd card? But after backing up when i will go for partitioning the sd card to have more internal memory and then install my VJ custom rom it will also delete my stock rom backup? right? So how do i store my stock rom backup before partitioning and formatting the sd card and then bring it back on the sd card to be later accessible by CWM?
3. If i will partition the sd card and run the a2sd script to move my apps to sd card, in which partition would it move to? And out of the two which partition would be available for me to use for like music, videos etc.
Any help would be highly appreciated! I am stuck on these issues
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1. You have stock hboot. You have to change it to have anything else except the stock one. You haven't changed it, and won't be able to, due to being s-on.
2. After CWM is installed, do a backup, then boot back in the stock ROM, connect your phone to your pc, and move your backup from your sd to your pc (backup folder: clockworkmod/backup)
3. You clearly don't fully know how partitioning works. Check the guide in my sig. It explains a lot.

You solved it!
Thanx alot man! You solved my problem! Just one more qs. I read your full guide about partitioning the sd card and now is clear with everything. But there is one thing still troubling me. For suppose if i partition it with your guide ext3 or ext4 type whatever. Then if i partition my 4 gb card to 2048mb, a second partition of 2gb would be created as an internal memory? And the rest 2gb would be the first partition to be used as a normal sd card with default android folders? right?

Yep. The rest will remain FAT32 so it will act just like the SD did before.
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Thanks man!
chromium96 said:
Yep. The rest will remain FAT32 so it will act just like the SD did before.
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Thanks alot! Now I am clear with everything!

The hoot defines how the internal memory is partitioned. A portion is set aside for the system, boot, user and I have probably forgotten one.
I have not run VJ's rom in a few months but I believe 1.5GB is the recommended maximum sd-ext partition for stability reasons on roms using a2sd.
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genseng said:
The hoot defines how the internal memory is partitioned. A portion is set aside for the system, boot, user and I have probably forgotten one.
I have not run VJ's rom in a few months but I believe 1.5GB is the recommended maximum sd-ext partition for stability reasons on roms using a2sd.
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Thanx!

talha011 said:
Thanx!
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There's a button for that.
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[Q] Problem booting into custom rom

I have a rooted gsm desire with s-off running on the froyo stock rom right now.
Lately, I've downloaded sandvold's beta ICS rom and tried to flash it. I've factory wiped the user data, cache partition and dalvik cache in CWM before that. Also, I have more than 1gb of space available in the sd card, if that is relevant.
The installation finished in less than 30 seconds and ended with "Installation completed". However, when I reboot the phone, I'm still on the original froyo rom.
The same thing happens when I flash the MIUI_AU ICS rom. The installation process takes up less than a minute and I return to the stock rom when I reboot.
Can anyone help?
Hi,
Perhaps it helps if you reinstall the recovery?
Which recovery do you use (clockworkmod?)?
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Do you have the correct hboot with the right partitions?
You should find it in the romthread witch one you need.
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I've switched my to 4ext recovery. I think I've managed to flash the rom but now it pauses at the white boot screen... it's been at the same screen for 10 minutes now.
What partitions do you have on your SD card?
Erm how do I check that?
I'm not sure if this has anything to do with this but when I select "check partition alignment" it says that my fat32 partition isn't perfectly aligned.
It seems that you dont have the needed partitions then.
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Is there any way I can fix that?
Read the noob guide in Development section. There is also a step about partitioning the SD card. And in the ROM's thread you find the required partition layout.
Apparently I just needed a stock hboot which I got from alpharev.nl. Everything's alright now.
Really gotta read the FAQ clearly and use the serach function more. Thanks!

[Q] No space for apps - SD-ext on stock 2.2 ROM?

Hi - this is an old topic but I've not been able to find an answer to this question...
My wife has a stock Desire GSM locked to T-Mobile UK with their stock 2.2 ROM. It's not rooted and there's no custom recovery. She's always running into the 15MB 'low storage' warning even with as much automated 'App2SD' as possible.
As a result *I* get a lot of earache about 'this bloody phone' and I'd like it to stop.
I don't want to flash a custom ROM, but if I root the phone with unrevoked, will I be able to take advantage of an 'sd-ext' partition on the MicroSD card so she can have a gig of apps rather than the ****ty 140MB on the internal storage?
What other apps / scripts / packages would be needed? The current ROM works fine - I would rather not replace it if possible since the settings / apps restore will be slow and painful.
Cheers,
Gavin.
Check Supernova rom. It's the stock Gingerbread update from HTC plus the space. I understand that you don't wanna flash a different rom but it's worth considering.
stankyou said:
Check Supernova rom. It's the stock Gingerbread update from HTC plus the space. I understand that you don't wanna flash a different rom but it's worth considering.
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Hm, interesting... so for that I'd just run unrevoked and assuming that installs ClockworkMod recovery OK, I'd copy the Flashable ZIP from http://supernova.droidzone.in/?page_id=24 to the SD card and flash that from recovery?
But yeh, keeping the existing ROM would be gold
Yeah in a nutshell. But first check what hboot version you have. You may need to run Revolutionary instead of Unrevoked. Also once you got that part done, instead of using clockworkmod recovery search for 4ext recovery touch its a lot better. Then with that recovery you can partition your sd card. Yeah its a lot of work.
Read the supernova thread or the website where you can download the rom. If I am not mistaken you can actually flash the rom without losing data. Just read the instructions carefully as its a little bit different from the usual process if I can remember correctly.
That's the closest rom where you can get the stock goods from htc. Check the everything desire thread on the dev section there might be some other roms there that is stock plus apps2sd.
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If you just don't want to change your rom, you can use Link2SD. It is found on the market, with it you can control which apps are moved and what is moved (app, dalvik, libs). It also has an "auto-move" feature, so your wife won't need to move everything manually. But of course you'll first have to create the ext4 partition.
Teppics stock rooted GB Rom is also worth a look, and you might also get away with not wiping data. Once rooted recommend download Titanium Backup from market and use it to backup user apps, then do a full nandroid backup before doing anything else. Any problems restoring nandroid will get you back to where you were. Also, 4Ext recovery is good but this requires S-OFF and is a separate process if you root via Unrevoked. Read up and read it again before starting, will stand you in good stead.
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Ahh "Link2SD" - that looks like a winner - I knew there would be a solution but no amount of Google-fu opened it for me... Link2SD - that's the magic incantation )
I'll give that a shot =)
As for the Unrevoked part - I can't do a full Nandroid backup until I get past that part.. so fingers crossed
Solved - SD-ext on stock 2.2 ROM?
Just wanted to follow up on this to say that I successfully ran Revolutionary against the T-Mobile locked phone (HBOOT 0.93.0001), applied the Superuser-3.0.3-efgh.zip as linked from the Revolutionary FAQ.
Finally I made a second FAT32 partition on the SD card since the phone doesn't seem to have ext2/3/4 support built in... and now we've been using Link2SD quite successfully =)
Thanks for the pointers + help, peeps

[Q] ClockworkMod Recovery issue

Im trying to partition my sd card using ROM Manager but when the phone reboots into ClockworkMod recovery it does do anythnig and just sits at the menu
Ive installed the latest ClockworkMod recovery (v5.0.2.0) but when the phnes reboots its coming up saying ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.7
If i navigate through the menus i dont actually see any options for partitioning the sd card either?
Im guessing im not actually running v5.0.2.0, is there a way i can fix this?
Im running the ICS ROM on my HTC desire but memory is really low after installing only 3 or 4 apps (even when i transfer them to SDCARD) so i was hoping i could put apps on the sd-ext partition
That's because you used ROM Manager. If you read a bit in the desire section, you'd discover that this useless software causes tons of problems. Read some guides here, do s-off, install 4ext and partition your SD with gparted.
muellersmattes said:
That's because you used ROM Manager. If you read a bit in the desire section, you'd discover that this useless software causes tons of problems. Read some guides here, do s-off, install 4ext and partition your SD with gparted.
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+1
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he also can partition his sd card via 4ext recovery...
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HTC Bootloop Help plz

I have recently downgraded my HTC which was T-Mobile Branded. Ruinning android 2.2.2 and had HBOOT 0.93.
I downgraded the phone in order to root it, so i followed this tutorial successfully. It worked fine on downgraded firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
I then rooted phone using unrevoked. which was not compaitable with firmware, 2.2.2
I then S-off the phone using Alpha 1.8
I then looked around for some roms, Now the issue is whenever, i attempt to install a rom which involves sense. It installs successfully, but then the bootscreen just continues in a loop.
This can be resolved by restoring back to the downgraded firmware?
Now my question is what is the possible cause of this bootloop and sense roms etc?
any suggestions are much appreciated
You didn't read the instructions carefully. Those Sense roms requires ext partition on the sd card.
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stankyou said:
You didn't read the instructions carefully. Those Sense roms requires ext partition on the sd card.
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I forgot to mention, with or without partitioning i have no luck. With partition it just freezes at boot screen. Whereas, without partition, it is in a loop.
Yea...first boot can take up to 30 minutes.
Adz1 said:
I forgot to mention, with or without partitioning i have no luck. With partition it just freezes at boot screen. Whereas, without partition, it is in a loop.
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Did you wipe system partitions prior to flashing? Also did you check what hboot type the rom requires? Stock hboot, cm7r2 hboot, etc.
Try to download Cyanogenmod7 rom here http://get.cm/?device=bravo&type=
Flash this and see if this boots up for you. If you are s-off and is using custom recovery already then you don't really need to go through the whole process again.
stankyou said:
Did you wipe system partitions prior to flashing? Also did you check what hboot type the rom requires? Stock hboot, cm7r2 hboot, etc.
Try to download Cyanogenmod7 rom here http://get.cm/?device=bravo&type=
Flash this and see if this boots up for you. If you are s-off and is using custom recovery already then you don't really need to go through the whole process again.
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Thanks, for the reply. This is an e.g of the rom sense roms i have tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431908 and runnyrom which both have similar results.
I have just installed Cyanogenmod7 which installs and functions properly.
and have tried this rom which works fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355660
i seem to only face such problems with sense Roms?
I assume the HBOOT is related to the alpha 1.8 which i used to S-OFF.
Im confused as i have the Desire S and have not had such problems before? It normally takes no longer than 5 mins to be up and running with the desire s. However, it seems to be the opposite with this desire?
Tell me what recovery are you using? I haven't used ICS roms in a long while so I'm not sure if it implements the use of sd ext partition out of the box. I feel it's your sd-ext partition (or the lack of it) is the problem.
I suggest to look for 4EXT recovery. It's in the desire forums just do a search. Download the apk and sideload it to your device on a running rom like Cyanogenmod it will replace your current recovery. Use 4ext recovery to partition your sd card. Make sure you backup your sd card to your computer before doing anything.
stankyou said:
Tell me what recovery are you using? I haven't used ICS roms in a long while so I'm not sure if it implements the use of sd ext partition out of the box. I feel it's your sd-ext partition (or the lack of it) is the problem.
I suggest to look for 4EXT recovery. It's in the desire forums just do a search. Download the apk and sideload it to your device on a running rom like Cyanogenmod it will replace your current recovery. Use 4ext recovery to partition your sd card. Make sure you backup your sd card to your computer before doing anything.
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I just installed 4EXT recover and will post results back.
Just a brief question having just browsed the Alpha webpage http://alpharev.nl/
and have realised a partition table, now i am wondering if that has any influence on the installation of Roms
i Currently have a 1gb Mem partitioned to 126? if this is having effect on it not booting?
just to be sure what partition size would you recommend for sense roms?
thanks
Adz1 said:
I just installed 4EXT recover and will post results back.
Just a brief question having just browsed the Alpha webpage http://alpharev.nl/
and have realised a partition table, now i am wondering if that has any influence on the installation of Roms
i Currently have a 1gb Mem partitioned to 126? if this is having effect on it not booting?
just to be sure what partition size would you recommend for sense roms?
thanks
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Alpharev is for hboots - Stock, Data++, Cm7r2, Oxgenr2, etc
SD ext - for your sd card. safe bet is to have 1gb-2gb of ext partition size.
If you just have 126mb for your ext partition then obviously you don't have the minimum requirement for Sense roms to run.
stankyou said:
Alpharev is for hboots - Stock, Data++, Cm7r2, Oxgenr2, etc
SD ext - for your sd card. safe bet is to have 1gb-2gb of ext partition size.
If you just have 126mb for your ext partition then obviously you don't have the minimum requirement for Sense roms to run.
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When partitioning the memory card It asks to create two separate partitions and if i am correct the 3rd time for the exchange memory?
Ill try attempting with a larger memory card. But what would you recommend in terms of the last partition created related to exchange memory?
thanks.
when u goto tools/partition sdcard, choose this, its probably the most common setup for roms -
1024
skip
skip
then choose ext4
and ur done, dont forget backup anything important on sdcard coz it will wipe everything on it.
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jmcclue said:
when u goto tools/partition sdcard, choose this, its probably the most common setup for roms -
1024
skip
skip
then choose ext4
and ur done, dont forget backup anything important on sdcard coz it will wipe everything on it.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Thanks, ill try this out and post back.
jmcclue said:
when u goto tools/partition sdcard, choose this, its probably the most common setup for roms -
1024
skip
skip
then choose ext4
and ur done, dont forget backup anything important on sdcard coz it will wipe everything on it.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Mister "chuck norris' man to the rescue. sorry OP i was busy with theming my rom. :highfive:
stankyou said:
Mister "chuck norris' man to the rescue. sorry OP i was busy with theming my rom. :highfive:
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lol
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jmcclue said:
lol
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thanks, i did as u suggested and tried this time with a 16gb memory card .i can now install all roms Successfully.

Flashing the WildfireS is a nightmare!

Hey guys, I'll cut to the chase.
My girlfriend's HTC Wildfire S is a nightmare to work with! I have tried many different ROMs, including Marvel 4.2.1 CM10.1, Jelly King and CM10 and I simply screw up the phone every single time!
I have attempted to partition the SD Card using MiniTool Partition (it is a 2GB card), into 2, 1GB partitions, and then installed INT2EXT4+, but I'm always confused about the settings in Recovery. Selecting advanced->Partition SD Card is always a guess and check method. Do I even need to do this? I usually never get the space in my internal the way I expect it. Its literally random on whether I get proper internal space. Sometimes, the second partition disappears and the ROM doesn't even know it exists!
I usually follow the instructions found on CM10 thread:
Download INT2EXT4+
Put the zip into the root of your SD Card: /storage/sdcard0
Flash the ROM
Flash the INT2EX4+.zip file
Reboot
Boot into Recovery again
Flash the GApps
Reboot again
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The main problem is, GApps never flashes properly, meaning it flashes, but never appears in the ROM! The only way I can get GApps to work is if I flash the Cache version of the GApps, which causes huge problems with apps, and internal space, and not only that, every time I flash the GApps on the Cache Partition, I lose all my settings.
I ask that someone give me an exact method to properly partition, flash the ROM and flash GApps, such that I can always update the ROM without having to lose all my settings/apps every time. I would also like to know how I can back up my settings (including app placements in the Launcher, such that I can restore the backup).
Odp: Flashing the WildfireS is a nightmare!
BuffMcBigHuge said:
Hey guys, I'll cut to the chase.
My girlfriend's HTC Wildfire S is a nightmare to work with! I have tried many different ROMs, including Marvel 4.2.1 CM10.1, Jelly King and CM10 and I simply screw up the phone every single time!
I have attempted to partition the SD Card using MiniTool Partition (it is a 2GB card), into 2, 1GB partitions, and then installed INT2EXT4+, but I'm always confused about the settings in Recovery. Selecting advanced->Partition SD Card is always a guess and check method. Do I even need to do this? I usually never get the space in my internal the way I expect it. Its literally random on whether I get proper internal space. Sometimes, the second partition disappears and the ROM doesn't even know it exists!
I usually follow the instructions found on CM10 thread:
The main problem is, GApps never flashes properly, meaning it flashes, but never appears in the ROM! The only way I can get GApps to work is if I flash the Cache version of the GApps, which causes huge problems with apps, and internal space, and not only that, every time I flash the GApps on the Cache Partition, I lose all my settings.
I ask that someone give me an exact method to properly partition, flash the ROM and flash GApps, such that I can always update the ROM without having to lose all my settings/apps every time. I would also like to know how I can back up my settings (including app placements in the Launcher, such that I can restore the backup).
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Did you make total wipe and format? Try the gaps from jellyking thread. It works 100% and try the script from that its better and faster then int2ext
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lokocool said:
Did you make total wipe and format? Try the gaps from jellyking thread. It works 100% and try the script from that its better and faster then int2ext
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Just an update, I preformed the following tasks in this order:
1 Using CWM, I factory wiped everything
2 Parittioned the SDcard to 1GB and 256MB swap
2 Mounted the SDcard in CWM and transferred over JellyKing 1.3 and a2sdx
3 Flashed JellyKing, then a2sdx
4 Booted the phone, and restored the google account
5 Checked the internal memory, made sure it was what I expected, then install my old apps in Google Play.
Seems to work quite well, I posted a few issues I had with Jelly King in particular in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37512166#post37512166
BuffMcBigHuge said:
Hey guys, I'll cut to the chase.
My girlfriend's HTC Wildfire S is a nightmare to work with! I have tried many different ROMs, including Marvel 4.2.1 CM10.1, Jelly King and CM10 and I simply screw up the phone every single time!
I have attempted to partition the SD Card using MiniTool Partition (it is a 2GB card), into 2, 1GB partitions, and then installed INT2EXT4+, but I'm always confused about the settings in Recovery. Selecting advanced->Partition SD Card is always a guess and check method. Do I even need to do this? I usually never get the space in my internal the way I expect it. Its literally random on whether I get proper internal space. Sometimes, the second partition disappears and the ROM doesn't even know it exists!
I usually follow the instructions found on CM10 thread:
The main problem is, GApps never flashes properly, meaning it flashes, but never appears in the ROM! The only way I can get GApps to work is if I flash the Cache version of the GApps, which causes huge problems with apps, and internal space, and not only that, every time I flash the GApps on the Cache Partition, I lose all my settings.
I ask that someone give me an exact method to properly partition, flash the ROM and flash GApps, such that I can always update the ROM without having to lose all my settings/apps every time. I would also like to know how I can back up my settings (including app placements in the Launcher, such that I can restore the backup).
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You can use Titanium Backup from Play Store for your backups.
I never had any problem with cache gapps ... working like a charm... But I really advice you not to update your ROM by flashing the zip over the ROM : personally I prefer making a full backup and restoring after the flash it is really safer and cleaner !
Envoyé depuis mon Wildfire S A510e
izi501 said:
You can use Titanium Backup from Play Store for your backups.
I never had any problem with cache gapps ... working like a charm... But I really advice you not to update your ROM by flashing the zip over the ROM : personally I prefer making a full backup and restoring after the flash it is really safer and cleaner !
Envoyé depuis mon Wildfire S A510e
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Titanium Backup files get wiped when I format my SD card. There is no point. I simply use the Google recovery to get my apps and data back... its substantial enough.
BuffMcBigHuge said:
Titanium Backup files get wiped when I format my SD card. There is no point. I simply use the Google recovery to get my apps and data back... its substantial enough.
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If you read carefully the tutorials about how to format your SD card, they all tell you that this process erases the SD card, and all advice you to make a full backup before formatting. After that, if you don't follow the instructions...
Envoyé depuis mon Wildfire S A510e

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