Controllers and Play Store Apps - Ouya Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?

player911 said:
I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?
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I havent tried sideloading any purchased games but I have a purched utility app that wont work but the free version does, Has to do with drm. But I've heard people having success sideloading gta not sure if they were using a cracked version or not.

player911 said:
I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?
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Yes Side-loading works it mostly depends on the game... some paid games from the play store wont work because they need to authenticate with the play store to prove you bought the app. Also some apps simply don't work because they don't support controllers...
also as for your question about controllers yes it does support PS3 controllers I've seen several videos of people using them, not sure about others though... I think someone said Xbox 360 controllers work through USB but as long as your controller is either USB or Bluetooth it should work.
As for your last question about multiplayer There is an emulator for free in the OUYA store called Mupen 64 and it does support up to 4 players so you would just need to get a copy of the Mario 64 ROM and you could play Mario kart 4 players. Not sure about other emulators though it really depends on if the emulator supports multiplayer.
Hope this helps!

player911 said:
I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?
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The subject of should OUYA outright support the Play Store is something highly talked about on the forums (If you're interested: ) I've come to the conclusion that no, it should not be supported for the sake of both the OUYA and the gamers. WIth that said, you can always try sideloading paid apps and see if they work. If the game calls the Google Infrastructure as DRM, it will not work, but if the game only has local DRM and you manage to remove it (I know nothing about that) or there is no DRM at all, it will work. I have a few paid apps that work perfectly. One warning, though, I know for sure Square Enix games do not work without hacking the apk.
The controller support is awesome! There are other threads about confirmed controllers working, but I know for sure the SixAxis, Wiimote, and WIRED 360 (not the play and charge pack) controllers all work.
As to answer your question, this thing works as a great emulator machine. I've messed with a few emulators and they all support multiplayer, some even support multiplayer over network (i.e. between 2 OUYA's, may even work cross platform, like PC-OUYA or OUYA-Phone/Tablet, but I do not know for sure). I have not tried any over network play, but theoretically it should work.
For the most part you don't need to sideload any emulators, as most are already on the OUYA store. In fact, I wouldn't recommend using any sideloaded emulators unless you have to (i.e. none in the store) because they just won't work as well with the controllers or TV.
With that said, if absolutely nothing else (and there is a lot more I love about the OUYA), this thing is a GREAT emulator machine! Buy yourself a 500GB external HD, throw on all your games from the old 2600 to PS1 and you can play them all. They even have a semi-working DS emulator, along with a PSP one confirmed on it's way! There is even an NES emulator that has it's own indie game store built in!
Bottomline yes, it can do what you want and if you're into it for mainly emulation, you can't go wrong.

Yes sideloading works, I've played N64 with 3 people on Mario Kart 64.
I have 2 ouya controllers and a usb controller, worked perfectly fine. You just need to set the player controller number. SNES and N64 emus have the options to bind a specific controller to player 1 2 3 4 etc

Perfect! The controller was the big issue because like I said, other devices work with 1 device, but multiple controllers all read as Player 1. Even Mugen64. It isn't the emulator but the actual OS and how it handles controllers.
So I am super excited that lots of controllers are working. I have a Wireless 360 (PC Dongle), Sixaxis, Corded PC gamepad, and a Moga, along with a slew of Wii Controllers. I really just need a few controllers working at the same time for when friends come over and stuff. The software I am not too overly concerned about. I'd rather have games available that are SPECIFICALLY designed for the OUYA then a slew of mixed supported games.
I'm really wanting to pick one up. I already have a few 500+gb HDD's laying around I can dump roms too. Even my old 16gb USB Stick would suffice for most stuff.

Controller issues ans Play Store apps with costs
Hey guys,
this should be the right thread for my current main issues with the Ouya.
1. Yesterday I had some friends over and we tried to play Bombsquad with three controllers. I have two Ouya controllers and as the Ouya and also Bombsquad support other controllers like PS3 and Xbox gamepads I tried to connect a third controller. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to connect any of them (of course the Ouya controllers work fine). It seems thet the console doesn’t even recognize something being connected via USB. I tried to connect a Dualshock 3 Playstation controller via cable, a Xbox (wireless) gamepad via cable and a Xbox controller for windows (wired, Razer Onza TE). None of them were recognized by the system, neither in the game nor in the Ouya main menu.
Is there any special setting I have to apply in order to get them to work?
I know there is also the option to connect smartphones or tablets to play Bombsquad, but this is not an option because I have 5 controllers lying around and I rather want to make use of them instead of playing on my phone.
2. Also, I have a problem with the Google Play Store I installed on the console. I followed the instructions from the forum (Rooting the Ouya, installing Xposed framework, installing the Google Plus Store app). After starting the app for the first time I typed in my account detail and everything worked fine. However, I only have access to the free apps in the store and not to the apps which cost money.
How do I get access to the whole Play Store with all the apps?
Thanks for your answers and please let me know if you need further information.
Greetings from Germany
3rr0r333

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Will this work? Ultimate Rom/Emu setup

Ok so since we have an hdmi out on our phones emulators and roms avaliable to us and an app that allows us to sync wii motes with our phones. could we plug r phones into our tvs thru hdmi load up a rom and then play emulators with our wii motes on the bigscreen?
bobzoz said:
Ok so since we have an hdmi out on our phones emulators and roms avaliable to us and an app that allows us to sync wii motes with our phones. could we plug r phones into our tvs thru hdmi load up a rom and then play emulators with our wii motes on the bigscreen?
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I'm fairly certain that the Evo doesn't have the hardware or software acceleration needed to run even Wii games, however, you could probally use the Snes or GBA emulators with it.
phajen said:
I'm fairly certain that the Evo doesn't have the hardware or software acceleration needed to run even Wii games, however, you could probally use the Snes or GBA emulators with it.
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my fault if i wasnt clear i meant like regular snes and sega roms and stuff but there is an app on the market that lets you sync your wiimotes with your phone to use to play snes/nes/sega roms
Yes there is. Search for Wii in market and you'll find the app.

[Q] WiiMote w/Emulators. Need advice on what to buy/mapping + ?'s

I have my Evo running an AOSP ROM and I have PSX4DROID, SNES, Gameboid, N64oid as my emulators. I went out yesterday and purchased a WiiMote (just the remote) but apparently that isn't enough.
I will mainly be using it for N64 (have to get my Zelda fix) and Mario Kart 64. I tried opening Mario Kart 64 and mapping the keys. I mapped all the keys and when I launched the game I could not turn with the D-PAD on the Wiimote.
I successfully paired the with WiiMoteController (app) but it won't turn left or right. I can do everything else but it kind of defeats the purpose.
Questions
Should I be mapping the keys within the N64 emulator app (what I've been doing) or map the keys in the WiiMoteController app?
Do I also need to buy the Nunchuck attachment?
Is it possible to just have the WiiMote and use that for my gaming?
Is there a Wii Controller attachment that I can slide my Wiimote into to turn it into a full fledge controller?
Why don't the Rom Gripper & Rom Gripper ++ download any ROMs? Are the servers down?
I'm confused and frustrated as I was trying all night to play around with it. I also want to mention that I didn't have success in the Zelda app either.
Wii-mote alone doesnt have sufficient buttons for the N64. Really its lacking to even cover the SNES.
Mostly I game using GBA, because of this. To combat it, you can get the classic controller plugin - http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Classic-Controller-nintendo/dp/B000IN0BSU
Which plugs into the wiimote, and should map through the WiiMoteController app, though I havent tried to see for sure. Personally I want it totally portable, and dont want to have to carry a third thing. I wish they would just make a wireless wii classic controller to work on its own. But alas...
Another problem you may be encountering with N64 and PSX, is mapping analog to digital. You are familiar with the analog controls of the original, but as I understand it, you can only map the classic controller as keyboard input, which turns them into digital control (full on, full off, like a keyboard button press). For many games that wont matter, but for many it will. Just another consideration.
Don't know anything about romgripper though, I only backup my games that I have bought with tools built from scratch
massivebasset said:
I wish they would just make a wireless wii classic controller to work on its own. But alas...
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you mean the Datel Retro wireless controller? That's what I bought. Think of it as a classic controller with the wiimote built inside
http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Retro-Wireless-Controller-Nintendo/dp/B001ULJGDU
I laugh at everyone getting a wiimote + classic controller for use with their phones, lol. Who the hell wants to carry that around?
Hell, I don't even use the datel controller that much (thank god I have a wii to use it with as well). Like I'm going to carry a controller with me everywhere I go, seriously.
I just choose games that work well with touchscreen controls (like strategy games and rpgs)
So do you recommend me getting a nunchuck along with my WiiMote or returning the Wiimote and buying the Datel?
I downloaded the ROM before (I do own all the games I downloaded) and I only care about those 2 games.
well getting a nunchuck isn't really going to solve your problem of not having enough buttons for N64 and PSX games...
and about the controller still not working after you mapped the buttons, you still have to switch to the controller in the standard Android input settings (like switch away from an onscreen keyboard) AS WELL as enabling the "input option" within the emulators. Like in Gameboid, if you go into "other settings" you will find an input option that you have to toggle (in addition to simply mapping the keys in the controls section).
gqstatus0685 said:
So do you recommend me getting a nunchuck along with my WiiMote or returning the Wiimote and buying the Datel?
I downloaded the ROM before (I do own all the games I downloaded) and I only care about those 2 games.
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I get 5 to 10 emails/PMs a day about this, you're going to want to get the Datel Retro Wireless. Wiimotes are only good for NES and Sega Master System.

[Update: New guide for Shadowgun too] PS3 controllers + Galaxy S II (stock ROMs)

[Update]
New video now that I found the guide at Android central about how to use a PS3 controller with Shadowgun - and of course a guide
Hi everyone, thought this might interest a few others here:
Pairing is via the Sixaxis Controller app ($2 on the Market), and there is a guide on pairing here (I made one since the Sixaxis Controller's homepage guide is not very user friendly). Root is required.
Thanks dude.. now I can play flash games on it.
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Thanks, might have to give it a try.
Thanks for the info dude.
But I can't think on any game that I could use a sixaxis for...
Shadowgun? Emulators?
PS3 controllers can be used with Shadowgun now too (initially they don't work via bluetooth except for movement):
Can anyone confirm the analog sticks work AS analog sticks? My only gripe with some of these controller apps (bluezime, wiimotecontroller, sixaxis controller) is they currently lack any "true analog" stick support. I certainly can't blame the developers, as they're using the framework they've been given (which in gingerbread is ONLY mapping to keyboard keys), it's still a bit of a pain and something that keeps me from using these controllers as often as I'd like. Even Mario64 requires fine analog control, not the typical "all or nothing" that occurs, even while using the analog stick, as it is converted into digital as a keypress.
If this app "Shadowgun" actually operates as analog (you move the stick a little you tiptoe, move it a lot you run) then I'd love to try it. Otherwise I believe we'll have to wait for ICS for that feature (I believe honeycomb had true analog support as well).
I know the Phonejoy one works full analog, however it took a while for the apps / emulators to be able to recognize the analog inputs (working now).
Most of these require roms that do not support MHL however, meaning if you wanted to connect to your big screen TV and play, you cant. (unless it changed recently)
Also, many only support single player (Like the phonejoy) so you can either have several people playing on your phone screen or one person playing on a big screen.

[Q] XBOX 360 Controller

Is there any way to use the 360 controller to play games on N64OID? (That's a nintendo 64 emulator) Emulator works great but playing with touchscreen controlls is a pain. I remember I read somewhere that the controller needs to be connected directly to the phone with that MHl adapter I think it's called, which I have. So I'm wondering what steps or apps or whatever are needed to set it up and all that? I am rooted and all that good stuff. Make my dreams come true please and let me play Smash Bros comfortably on my phone Thanks in advance!!

Shield (hopefully) now compatible with touch apps.

soo ive been crying since day one when i found out i couldnt play NOVA 3 on my newly bought shield, i thought about using a custom firmware but didnt want to lose functionality, i ended up adapting my 4tb hdd as internal memory so once i did that for me there was no goong back lol, so ive been trying to find a way to map controls and thought of everything and nothing seemed to work. sixaxis controller app didnt work when i tried a few times a year back but there has since been an update and now i can map the touch controls for nova and play perfectly so im guessing that opens up a lot more apps and games that require touch we couldnt use before but prob can now. For me this is the best early christmas present i could have asked for. Thought id let you lot know just in case ya didnt.
if you play Modern Combat 5, NOVA 3 or are generally into android online gaming, anything to do with Nvidia Shield, Kodi or Plex - join us https://discord.gg/XsMz44k http://droidshield.boards.net
I use Zulu full Android with game controller2touch it does wonders
Also I noticed we have good fps' for android and most of these games have no chat support which is odd. I play modern combat 5 a lot and have now made a server where we can use any windows, android or iOS device to use voice chat while in game. so download 'discord' free from play store, app store, website etc and join us here. Http://discord.gg/ThWtash. If you want to join our MC5 clan just ask.

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