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Dear XDA members,
After using my hox for a few months, (i absolutely love it..) i noticed a weird glitch..
While using my hox through the day, its fine.. i have no problems at all.
but: when i charge it at night, and use it before i go to sleep.. the problems occur.
problem 1: overheating while charging, phone gives an warning with its led (red-green-red-green)
problem 2: this problem is more instant, shaking when scrolling..
its the last problem that i really hate about my phone, if it charges my touchscreen becomes "shaky".
if i open a web-browser and scroll without charger plugged in.. everything is fine.
but if only the metal housing of the usb plug is touching the chargerport of my phone it starts doing funny stuff..
if i keep my finger on the screen, (after scrolling.. when i just stopped moving my finger across the screen)
my screen scrolls up and down very quickly.. and wont stop doing this untill i let my finger go.
this results in an vibrating effect.. like the text is vibrating in my screen..
but when i unplug the charger.. this problem is gone!
then add the overheating problem, and my phone becomes pretty annoying while charging..
its burning my fingers (while charging it will get up to 50 degrees, just by using youtube..) and i cant read normally with one of my fingers
touching the screen, because it will vibrate.
does anyone else have this problem?
i have the HTC_E11 (western europe) and im running android 4.0.4 (stock, unrooted)
besides that, i did not unlock the bootloader.. its like it just came out of the box.
note: this only happens with ALL wall chargers.. from different brands.
(2 htc chargers.. one from my old wildfire S and my new charger AND an samsung galaxy tab charger AND archos tablet charger)
this does not happen when plugged in to an pc, so i think its an grounding problem?
same with browsers.. this happens with all apps and browsers that have the functionality to scroll.
Well about 1,5 years ago I had a spare Motorola charger which was only 0,5A out, but used it when some friends came over and use my charger.
Both my old HD2 and my gf's Desire S became fuzzy with the screen when its plugged. It was clearly mis-tapping where I tap my finger, by very huge margin.
It reminded me that. The charger was rubbish.
mostly trying to avoid using any mobile device while charging but I did play angry birds while charging my HOX a few times, don't remember such a heat.
My HD2 used to respond incorrectly to touch with the stock charger. My HOX doesn't do it however, But if I plug it in to my HD2 charger it sometimes goes a little crazy.
It's easy for electromagnetic interference from a transformer mess with the digitizer in the screen. This is true of any device with a capacitive touch screen.
As for the shaky screen, that would be caused by noisy power being generated by the transformer, rather than a nice clean sine wave. This is common when you overload an AC/DC converter power supply. Try using one that's rated for 1.5mA and see if it helps.
It's unlikely it will damage the device, but it will charge less efficiently and cause some crazy behavior while it's plugged in.
i tried it with my 5v(usb), 1.5A adapter that i got with my tablet..
same problem, but overheating of the accu gets a bit worse
my original adapter has 1A, how much ampere does your adapter have?
I usually charge with a 1.5mA charger. Having said that, a lot of chargers seem to just have a random number stamped on them. I have seen tiny little chargers that claim up to 5A and only actually supply 500mA or less, so they get very overloaded.
An easy way to tell is to see how hot the power adapter is getting. If its appropriately rated for the current draw of the phone, it should get a little warm while charging. If it's getting hot, it's not up to the job and should be replaced.
The charging current should be limited by the charge circuit in the phone, so the higher the rating on the power supply you plug in to to charge, the cleaner the sine wave should be and the less issues you should get. The phone may just get a little warmer when charging due to more current being available. Again, this should be limited by the phone though.
Sentinel196 said:
The charging current should be limited by the charge circuit in the phone, so the higher the rating on the power supply you plug in to to charge, the cleaner the sine wave should be and the less issues you should get.
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The charger output is DC, I'm not sure what sine wave you're talking about.
Recently successfully replaced the LCD screen on my Acer A100. Device worked fine for some time after that repair. Wanting to get a secondary charger for use at work I went to radio shack. Sales "tech" tried several different adapters, found one that fit inside he port, but wiggled. She plugged it in but device wasn't showing a charge. Decided to order one from online. At home the device still would not charge with its own charger. Thought maybe the charger was faulty. Ordered two more. Still the A100 turned off when charger plugged in. Figured tech had burned out the a/c port. Ordered and installed a new one. Still A100 turns off immediately when charger is plugged in. I have 3 chargers now - same results with all 3. Have now ordered a docking station to utilize (hopefully) charging ability through 40 pin connector.
If this connection creates same shut down am I looking at a battery replacement? AM sitting at 33% battery level now, device shut down completely.
Acer wants 199.00 prepaid to submit to them for repair - this is more than I paid for the device! Not really an expense I am willing to pay if all it needs is a battery. There is no erratic behavior , just immediate shutdown as soon as a charger is connected. Any ideas?
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Recently successfully replaced the LCD screen on my Acer A100. Device worked fine for some time after that repair. Wanting to get a secondary charger for use at work I went to radio shack. Sales "tech" tried several different adapters, found one that fit inside he port, but wiggled. She plugged it in but device wasn't showing a charge. Decided to order one from online. At home the device still would not charge with its own charger. Thought maybe the charger was faulty. Ordered two more. Still the A100 turned off when charger plugged in. Figured tech had burned out the a/c port. Ordered and installed a new one. Still A100 turns off immediately when charger is plugged in. I have 3 chargers now - same results with all 3. Have now ordered a docking station to utilize (hopefully) charging ability through 40 pin connector.
If this connection creates same shut down am I looking at a battery replacement? AM sitting at 33% battery level now, device shut down completely.
Acer wants 199.00 prepaid to submit to them for repair - this is more than I paid for the device! Not really an expense I am willing to pay if all it needs is a battery. There is no erratic behavior , just immediate shutdown as soon as a charger is connected. Any ideas?
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If its doing it on 3 chargers its sounding more like a board charging circuit issue. You could remove the battery and then see if it behaves normally, that'll be battery or board right there. Or if you have a multi meter test output at the battery connector.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - ReVolt
Tried connection without battery
pio_masaki said:
If its doing it on 3 chargers its sounding more like a board charging circuit issue. You could remove the battery and then see if it behaves normally, that'll be battery or board right there. Or if you have a multi meter test output at the battery connector.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - ReVolt
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Don't have a multi meter. Tried connection via new docking station, got same response: device immediately shut off. Tried your suggestion, disconnected battery connected to docking station, got immediate shut off. Same with charger via a/c port. :crying: Mainboard is out? But Device responds and acts normal when in battery mode - or is this isolated to the charging circuit part of the main board?
Thanks for the suggestion!
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Don't have a multi meter. Tried connection via new docking station, got same response: device immediately shut off. Tried your suggestion, disconnected battery connected to docking station, got immediate shut off. Same with charger via a/c port. :crying: Mainboard is out? But Device responds and acts normal when in battery mode - or is this isolated to the charging circuit part of the main board?
Thanks for the suggestion!
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Sounds like its tripping on the charger circuit and cutting out, like a breaker tripping. IMO look carefully for any shorts on the boards, even something stupid like dog hair can cause strange things to happen. A good blasting with air wouldn't hurt either. It could even be the dock port as it does charge from there and is subject to debris also.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - ReVolt
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pio_masaki said:
Sounds like its tripping on the charger circuit and cutting out, like a breaker tripping. IMO look carefully for any shorts on the boards, even something stupid like dog hair can cause strange things to happen. A good blasting with air wouldn't hurt either. It could even be the dock port as it does charge from there and is subject to debris also.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - ReVolt
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Thanks again for more suggestions. Yup I have been over the board and all connections with a looking glass. Changed out the A/C dock port. My suspicion is that when the Radio Shack tech powered up the "Almost fits" adapter it blew whatever breaker the board has.
When I had it connected to the docking station with the battery disconnected, it powered on, then immediately shut off. So this definitely sounds like a "blown fuse". I completely disassembled and reassembled it again (except for the LCD screen) and checked all connections and plugs. Nothing visible to indicate a burnout or cross connection.
No odd smells either. Probably some teensy weensy transistor or resistor or something. I am not an electrician - just good at R & R.
Another visit to ebay and I am parting with 50 bucks for a "factory refurbished" motherboard. In the mean time, my beloved tablet will await further surgery. Will keep you posted. Board should be here by Saturday. I hope so - battery is down to 27%. Thanks again for weighing in!
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Thanks again for more suggestions. Yup I have been over the board and all connections with a looking glass. Changed out the A/C dock port. My suspicion is that when the Radio Shack tech powered up the "Almost fits" adapter it blew whatever breaker the board has.
When I had it connected to the docking station with the battery disconnected, it powered on, then immediately shut off. So this definitely sounds like a "blown fuse". I completely disassembled and reassembled it again (except for the LCD screen) and checked all connections and plugs. Nothing visible to indicate a burnout or cross connection.
No odd smells either. Probably some teensy weensy transistor or resistor or something. I am not an electrician - just good at R & R.
Another visit to ebay and I am parting with 50 bucks for a "factory refurbished" motherboard. In the mean time, my beloved tablet will await further surgery. Will keep you posted. Board should be here by Saturday. I hope so - battery is down to 27%. Thanks again for weighing in!
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To bad considering the crappy battery life so its not like you can charge some other way and swap the battery around.
Example, I have a bricked unit that charges but doesn't otherwise work, so I mean using my bricked board to charge it and the non charge board for use. The a100 isn't really a good setup for swapping around lol. I may actually be interested in that board now that I think about it...
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - ReVolt
hmmm an idea for the brave
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To bad considering the crappy battery life so its not like you can charge some other way and swap the battery around.
Example, I have a bricked unit that charges but doesn't otherwise work, so I mean using my bricked board to charge it and the non charge board for use. The a100 isn't really a good setup for swapping around lol. I may actually be interested in that board now that I think about it...
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - ReVolt
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If I could figure out a way to charge the battery OTHER than through the board - I would! Which got me to thinking. One COULD get a second rear panel, cut a door in it, install teensy weensy hinges or create a hinge with cloth tape. then make some sort of extension cord for the battery charging cord, plug it in to the "external" charging board and refill the battery that way.
With a working board and the right know how, one could just extract the board, put it in a box and make a charger out of it too.
But that is just my brain rattling around ideas. :silly: Hopefully this new "refurbished" mother board will do the trick and I will learn my lesson and NEVER let a sales "tech" attempt trial adapters! at 10 minutes to 9pm tonight it was in Texas....
Until I CANNOT use it, I didn't realize how MUCH I used this little tablet!
now it blinks orange?
Oh fer cryin out loud! The motherboard has arrived, I have installed it. Can plug n the charger and drop it onto the docking station and now I get the same response for both charging options: Charge LED lights up orange solid for just about 60 seconds, then begins blinking. Device doesn't respond when power button is pushed UNLESS it is plugged in, and then it just sits at the "ACER" screen.led changes to blue.
OK, wait a minute, this is the third time I have turned it on while plugged in. Acer screen has moved to Android, Device has started. Battery icon showing a question mark. 23%
Turned off, turned back on, now battery shows only 3%????
Think I saw something on the forums about that. will go on a quest.
Finally charging again!
Shhh, don't want to disturb my device....
Found folks on other forums with similar issues of the Acer A100 tablet showing only 3% charge. I removed and inserted the charging pin several times, the device would show solid orange led for about one minute then start blinking. Turned the device on when charger plugged in, unlocked the screen, then with device still plugged in I shut it down completely. Removed charger. Plugged it back in and so far the led is staying at solid orange.
Please keep your fingers crossed for me! This has been quite the roller coaster ride of discovery. Will leave it be for overnight (what is left of the overnight). Then peek at it in the morning. With any luck at all it will have accepted a full charge and I will be greeted with a functioning device! I almost want to learn a new trade..
well now that is weird, got up this morning to a nice blue charge indicator. Yay! Unplugged charger, press on button, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold and device does not start up. Dang it! Plugged it back in, led went solid orange, then started blinking again! Pressed and held on button. Device came on. battery meter shows 3% and a question mark! HUH?
have device plugged in, settings of course show android version 3.2.1 for this motherboard. Guess I need to upgrade it to ICS maybe that will resolve this weird battery issue? Hope soemone here has ideas, feels like I am soooo close to resolving this.
I read the upper posts.
Now I want to share my experience regarding battery load sharing:
I have allso problems to charge the battery.
I have on my tab, for example, 40% of battery power.
I turn my tab off.
When i plugged the charging cable in it shows me the orange led for load.
After two hours or more i turned the tab on.
It shows me not more than 40% but only 37% or so.
So not loaded. This was a bad sign....
I dont no was happend.
I get a little bit nervous but when the tab not get power it doesnt work....
After two/three hours the battery was empty.
Now i can only start my tab while plugged the charging cabel in because the battery will not load.
I have tried several options to find a solution (disconnect the battery, install a new battery, etc. ....).
My solution was fairly straightforward:
I open the tab. Look where the power comes in.
Of the charging socket go four (two red and two black) cable to the motherboard and from the motherboard it goes seven (two red, two black and for me not so important three other coloured cabels) to the battery.
I organized four thin wire and soldered it from the charging socket directly to the battery (of course red to red black to black ).
The result:
When i plugged the charging cabel in while android is running i get no information to load and it shows me not to.
But when i turned the tab off and on again it shows me that it has the battery charged :fingers-crossed: .
After on night while the charger plugged in the battery is fully loaded!!
And of course i get the information in android the discharging of the battery but this is an normaly thing!
So, the problem to load the battery for me is solved .
I hope it helps a little bit for everyone!
frischeis said:
I read the upper posts.
Now I want to share my experience regarding battery load sharing:
I have allso problems to charge the battery.
I have on my tab, for example, 40% of battery power.
I turn my tab off.
When i plugged the charging cable in it shows me the orange led for load.
After two hours or more i turned the tab on.
It shows me not more than 40% but only 37% or so.
So not loaded. This was a bad sign....
I dont no was happend.
I get a little bit nervous but when the tab not get power it doesnt work....
After two/three hours the battery was empty.
Now i can only start my tab while plugged the charging cabel in because the battery will not load.
I have tried several options to find a solution (disconnect the battery, install a new battery, etc. ....).
My solution was fairly straightforward:
I open the tab. Look where the power comes in.
Of the charging socket go four (two red and two black) cable to the motherboard and from the motherboard it goes seven (two red, two black and for me not so important three other coloured cabels) to the battery.
I organized four thin wire and soldered it from the charging socket directly to the battery (of course red to red black to black ).
The result:
When i plugged the charging cabel in while android is running i get no information to load and it shows me not to.
But when i turned the tab off and on again it shows me that it has the battery charged :fingers-crossed: .
After on night while the charger plugged in the battery is fully loaded!!
And of course i get the information in android the discharging of the battery but this is an normaly thing!
So, the problem to load the battery for me is solved .
I hope it helps a little bit for everyone!
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I really hope other isn't any voltage or amperage changes needed of that can blow that battery up real quick, plus it can't stop charging, you'll need to monitor that yourself.
Thanks for the info though, it does appear to be yet another somewhat common bug these have that can be addressed by a user if they feel the need to.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - ReVolt
Not switch the charger off when the battery is full?
I think the charger there is a shutdown would otherwise overload the battery, right?
Or do this the motherboard?
Anyway, for me the tab is fully working now and if the battery is broken, it is not a big expense to replace them .
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Not switch the charger off when the battery is full?
I think the charger there is a shutdown would otherwise overload the battery, right?
Or do this the motherboard?
Anyway, for me the tab is fully working now and if the battery is broken, it is not a big expense to replace them .
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I was saying the board is in charge of cutting the battery charge off, not the charger itself so maybe keep an eye on it, its a good way for an explosion or fire.
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A100 tablet not charging still
Frischies is much braver than I am.
Wiring the battery direct to the charging port- I would definitely worry about burning up the battery or causing a fire - especially while charging when I sleep. I have had more than my fair share of run ins with fire.
The Motherboard I ordered arrived and I installed it. It was listed as "factory refurbished", but unfortunately will not accept a charge. I thought it had charged overnight at one point, but all it does is blink orange and the battery reads 3% or 0%. Turning the device off when plugged in and doing a reset has not helped. The vendor has been gracious to do a replacement, so I will follow that route until I get a working motherboard.
I have discovered that the docking station will be a welcome addition to my Acer tablet paraphernalia! Although this model docking station isn't the one that allows HDMI throughput, it still will be nice for music, and other media. A Bluetooth keyboard and the tablet will offer yet another computer tool!
First things first though, get the tablet to accept a charge - until then it is a really wide flat paper weight! I am getting VERY adept at opening the tablet and removing the internals!
It is working again! The motherboard sent was defective but vendor issued an RMA. Received the replacement yesterday, installed it last night. Charged over night and fully functional this morning! Ahhh it feels good to have my little buddy back again. Didn't realize how much I used it, until I couldn't use it! Thanks to all for the help.
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I have been using my G3 with the following chargers.
1. CAR - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.9.312.b3nISV&id=19923741183&_u=r5ljepd1b56
2. HOME - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.9.298.b3nISV&id=2030530342&_u=r5ljepdfb71
For the CAR charger, the phone keep asking me place the phone in center of Hot Zone.
Or will charge for a few seconds and stops, and charge and stop...repeat.
For the HOME charger, it ask me to place the phone in center of Hot Zone, but once message disappear it charges fine.
I tried a long time and can't find the perfect spot.
Can someone point me to right HOT ZONE on the phone??
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Hi, the same thing keeps happening to my g3 whenever I try and charge it wirelessly.
Just to ask did you buy one of the budget qi chargers?
I bought one for £7 on ebay, thing is it charges my Nexus 4 perfectly fine, just can't seem to get a good angle with my G3.
The price was the same as the link I posted. Around 30-40usd each. The charger is fine with my nexus as well just not g3.
Seem to me as though the charger coil on the g3 back cover is very small that is causing the issue.
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Yeah I took the cover off my G3 to see if I could see any hint as to how big the coils were or where they were placed but couldn't really see anything.
Did you actually buy your chargers on taobao? I wouldn't trust anything on there to be of good quality.
Maybe the G3 has trouble working with cheap chargers, the proper LG one's i've heard work really well.
I was thinking of getting a better charger, perhaps one with 3 coils see if that makes a difference..
Yeah I got it directly off taobao, there wasn't a good selection of charger when I got the nexus. And especially it was so hard to find a good car charger.
Guess I have no choice but to get the official lg one now.
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I have the same problem with a generic circular one. If the screen is on, the message about the hot zone pops up. If the screen is off however, the charging message pops up. But it does this every few seconds, every time the screen goes off.
If I look at the inside of the cover on mine, I can clearly see the coil layout (you have to look at an angle, under a light) The coil I see looks about the same as a standard one.
The issue, I think, may be down to the NFC coil being in the same location. Qi is supposed to detect foreign metal objects such as keys & coins, and will turn off if they are detected. Maybe the NFC coil is interfering with Qi and the official LG charger has been designed to overcome this issue.
I haven't been able to find the official charger at retail.
Here I have found it on Taobao, the price is pretty steep though about 50USD.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.46.d314Hi&id=39277673920&ns=1#detail
I got the official charger but same problem for me. Says its loading but when the screen goes of it pops back up. The charger is working fine with my Nexus 7. Anyone who solved this problem yet?
I also have this problem with a premium charger I bought for my note 3. Keeps on telling me to put it in the hot spot and then won't charge. Looks like another problem for the g3 and I'm beginning to wish that I'd kept my note 3
Please help
This is my second try to get an answer to this question. Does anyone here have a us LG G3? The reason I'm asking is I have seen two different charging pin locations one is the international one which has a space between pins 2 and 3and the Korean version which has no spaces between the pins. I want to buy a charging cover and don't know which one to get so hopefully someone here can let me know. Thanks in advance.
i thought only me have this problem.
im using official LG G3 charger WCD-100, while charging the G3, sometimes charging stop for a second and continue. happen so often. the wireless charging notification annoy me, not sure if charging with random disconnect will make the battery life cycle worse
when charging my nexus 5 with the same wireless chager, the charging went smooth, no disconnect happen
i check the back cover and clean the pin, nothing changes, still got random disconnect
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i thought only me have this problem.
im using official LG G3 charger WCD-100, while charging the G3, sometimes charging stop for a second and continue. happen so often. the wireless charging notification annoy me, not sure if charging with random disconnect will make the battery life cycle worse
when charging my nexus 5 with the same wireless chager, the charging went smooth, no disconnect happen
i check the back cover and clean the pin, nothing changes, still got random disconnect
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Same here (WCD-100), those alerts are just annoying. Is there any chance I could disable it?
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This is my second try to get an answer to this question. Does anyone here have a us LG G3? The reason I'm asking is I have seen two different charging pin locations one is the international one which has a space between pins 2 and 3and the Korean version which has no spaces between the pins. I want to buy a charging cover and don't know which one to get so hopefully someone here can let me know. Thanks in advance.
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I do not have the phone. But there have been pictures posted of the T-Mobile and AT&T version which show the space between the pins.
Gal321 said:
Same here (WCD-100), those alerts are just annoying. Is there any chance I could disable it?
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Disable the alert with Xposed and G3 Tweaksbox. You can disable the slow charging notification and the hot zone message.
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wireless charging alert keeps popping up
Hi to all!
I just got my new LG G3 phone and starting to familiarize its usage. Though one thing I can't figure out is the wireless charging indicator pops up every after 30 seconds or so. Is there any configuration I can set to disable this?
Thanks!
Chris
I'm using a generic charger from dx (the round black one) and positioning is sensitive, but it does work and doesn't keep popping up asking me to reposition it.
I also have a round puck charger and and also one of those Lugalake qi chargers with integrated battery. UK phone.
In both cases the G3 just sits and whines about positioning. The puck thinks it's charging and the battery level increases but the back of the phone gets very hot so I don't think it's 100% right. A hot zone, for sure.
wizdomfellas said:
i thought only me have this problem.
im using official LG G3 charger WCD-100, while charging the G3, sometimes charging stop for a second and continue. happen so often. the wireless charging notification annoy me, not sure if charging with random disconnect will make the battery life cycle worse
when charging my nexus 5 with the same wireless chager, the charging went smooth, no disconnect happen
i check the back cover and clean the pin, nothing changes, still got random disconnect
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Exact same problem. I am currently using G3 Tweaks Box to remove the annoying notifications that pops up every now and then, but no solution to the actual issue of the phone not charging consistently. Not sure if its the phone or the charger, but am currently thinking of swapping to a better charging stand (the WCD-100 looks pretty inconsistent with the premium look of the phone, plus I'm using a black G3) and hoping that the charging issue would be resolved.
I have the LG WCP-300 and I get the placing message as well, but it charges the phone without any issues. .
I just got my phone back from repair (it died of the bootloop syndrome), but previous to this I also burnt out the QI chipset. Didnt RMA it as it didnt bother me that much.
However, now I got my phone back with a completely new motherboard, So I was wondering if theres anyone out there that actually has a G4 with working QI wireless charging sticker that has worked over time.
If there is, I might try another go with a QI sticker, but if there isn't, I'll just leave it.
I have been using the Cheotech Wireless Charging case - https://www.amazon.co.uk/CHOETECH-Circle-Wireless-Charging-Receiver-x/dp/B011DTIW6U - every day with no issues. Still works after a motherboard bootloop repair.
dmarchant said:
I have been using the Cheotech Wireless Charging case - https://www.amazon.co.uk/CHOETECH-Circle-Wireless-Charging-Receiver-x/dp/B011DTIW6U - every day with no issues. Still works after a motherboard bootloop repair.
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Have you ever tried quickcharge on that phone? Some users in the forums believe that alternating quickcharge and wireless charge is causing the qi chipset to burn
I got a sprint varient. I bought a after market coil and have never had any issues with it.
i never liked the curvature of the back of the phone without a charging case.
if u set your g4 on it say at 12 oclock 0 degrees up and down come in 8 hours later the phone will rotate sideways and fall off the charger.
im assuming from the micro vibrations that the magnetic coils make. im real particular about crap like that and i set my phone down i expect it to stay on it.
i had to set a rubber pad on mine so it dont move
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after owning a load of samsungs my s5 s6 s7 note 5 a couple of actives wireless charging is a must. i even got a old lumia for att that was release in 2011 or 2012 that has it in it
I sometimes use quick charge, but I find my wireless charging is normally quick enough for me so use that at least 90% of the time.
I have the QuickCircle case but I don't use it (came with the used G4 I just bought), and I do have a Qi charging pad but personally I think wireless charging does more damage to the battery than good because of the additional heat it causes over traditional plug-in charging.
Maybe someday we'll have some time of battery technology that suffers no ill effects from such wireless transfer of power, but as long as we know for a fact that Li-Ion batteries are affected by heat buildup which shortens their total lifespan (not on a per-charge basis but the actual lifetime of the battery cell itself usually measured in years) I'm just not a fan of anything including Quick Charging (2.0 or 3.0) because of the increased heat the cells end up being exposed to during such quick faster charging.
I have an LG 1.2A charger that I use with my G4 and it works fine, I'm never in such a massive hurry that I have to "quick charge" and go, that's why I have a second battery that gets charged on the G4 battery cradle so it's always ready to go and I swap the cells weekly to get both of them with fairly even levels of wear over time.
This started happening a couple of weeks ago, prior to the latest update.
When I put my P6P on the Stand 2 at the end of the day, I get the little sound and animation that it started charging. After a few seconds I see the message at the bottom that it's "charging wirelessly" and a time until full. I have the stand set on Max Charging and adaptive charging turned off. After a minute or two, the fan comes on. About 10-15 minutes later, it stops charging, (the message goes away and the current % is shown), and the phone is really hot. No matter how long I leave it, even overnight, it never starts charging again. The phone remains really hot until I remove it from the stand.
About 50% of the time, if I reboot it, it will behave normally again, but last night nothing I did would get it to charge wirelessly. I ended up plugging it into the wire. It never gets warm when charging on the wire.
It has been working fine since I purchased it in Nov. This just started a few weeks ago. Has anyone else seen this?
Dave
Try cable charging.
Charging will disengage if the battery temperature gets too hot, about >103F
Fast charging may disengage if the temperature gets beyond 95-100F.
Ideal charging battery start temp is 82F.
Erratic charging can indicate a failed battery.
Any swelling is a failure, replace asap if so.
blackhawk said:
Try cable charging.
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As indicated in my OP, cable charging works fine every time. The phone doesn't even get warm. It's only wireless charging that's an issue, and not every time I try to charge it wirelesly. It's like the phone decides to stop accepting the power, and it starts to heat up because of it.
I take it you don't have a second wireless stand to rule out if it's the phone or your STand 2 that's behaving badly?
I have been using a genric set-up from charger to stand with my P6P and did have charging issues a few months ago with wireless charging not working correctly but the May update fixed it.
Dataman100 said:
As indicated in my OP, cable charging works fine every time. The phone doesn't even get warm. It's only wireless charging that's an issue, and not every time I try to charge it wirelesly. It's like the phone decides to stop accepting the power, and it starts to heat up because of it.
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May be a hardware failure in the phone or stand.
Remove a case if it has one and try.
C ports generally last for thousands of charge cycles and cable charging is better for the battery, produces less heat.
FoneWatcher said:
I take it you don't have a second wireless stand to rule out if it's the phone or your STand 2 that's behaving badly?
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No, unfortunately I only have one stand. I'll keep trying things to see if I can narrow down the exact situation when it occurs. I was mainly checking to see if anyone else had something similar happen and there was a quick fix.
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C ports generally last for thousands of charge cycles and cable charging is better for the battery, produces less heat.
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Yeah, and I've always used cable charging on all my phones in the past with no issues. I thought the stand was cool in that it could fast charge and keep the phone upright so it's easy to read in the middle of the night. I'd really like to keep using it. It was stupid expensive and I'd hate to let it go unused for that price.
Thanks!
Dave
I've been experiencing similar problems with my Stand. Sometimes it charges normally, sometimes it charges REALLY, and I mean really slow... And sometimes I get the "Not charging" message for whatever reason.
I think it's gotta be an issue with the adaptive charging on the Pixel 6 Pro, because every time I put my other phone on the stand, my S21U, it charges without any issues.
Dataman100 said:
Yeah, and I've always used cable charging on all my phones in the past with no issues. I thought the stand was cool in that it could fast charge and keep the phone upright so it's easy to read in the middle of the night. I'd really like to keep using it. It was stupid expensive and I'd hate to let it go unused for that price.
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Dave
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Yeah, I feel you. It could be firmware, a SEU which are rare but do happen. A reflash would fix it if so. Probably not worth the trouble to try and more likely to be hardware.
Cable charging be the best plan for now I think.
The old micro connectors were horrible and invariably would fail. The C connectors are much more robust. This N10+ is heavily used and the C port jack is still tight and has well over a thousand cycles plus a few drops and pulls. Even the original cable is still AOK.
Just came across this thread while looking for similar problems on my P4 with a 1st Gen stand. The phone showed the normal 'xx% charging wirelessly' display then at 79% it changed to simply '79%'. After a while the message went back to 'xx%charging wirelessly'. I took the phone off the charger and using a utility app called 'inware' I looked at the battery temp which was at 41.5C/106F.
So I'm guessing that the phone will stop charging when the battery gets hot and resume when it cools down a bit. What is 'too hot' and when does it cause damage, I have no idea. Google told me in a chat session the other day that it's perfectly acceptable to leave the phone on the stand all day. Personally, I take it off at about 80% charge which lasts me all day.
Mine also has this behaviour, taking it off and placing it back on continues to charge
I just sent my stand back for similar reasons - not good when a $12 Qi charger from Amazon was doing a better (and faster!) job charging.
I sent mine back too & am now using a charger that I bought at IKEA for £5. It's a shame as I thought that Google would have made more effort to integrate the charger & phone. Oh well, bling gone!