[Q] Jumping off the Samsung wagon, i think - Sony Xperia ZL

I'm seriously thinking of jumping off the Samsung wagon. The two devices I'm looking at are this phone and the HTC One. Is there any pros or cons that you all can tell me here, that I can't read on any tech site review?

twatts723 said:
I'm seriously thinking of jumping off the Samsung wagon. The two devices I'm looking at are this phone and the HTC One. Is there any pros or cons that you all can tell me here, that I can't read on any tech site review?
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I had a samsung S3 and bought a Sony ZL, and itss much much much better in all terms.

This is an excellent phone, but honestly, I think the HTC One is better all-round (except no sd-card slot which may not be much of an issue). The camera on the HTC One is a bit better than the Z/ZL, and the processor is a little bit better/faster/snappier. The only reason I got this phone as supposed to the S4 or the HTC One is the look. The specs are relatively similar in all regards so it's not THAT big of a difference. But I prefer the shape and feel of this phone than the others.

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HTC Desire or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000

Hi Guys,
Don't know if I should be posting this here but I'm at a loss, I have in my possession the HTC Desire and the Samsung i9000 both brand new, and I want to keep one and sell the other.
PROBLEM IS I have no clue which to keep and which to sell. Both have their pro's and con's yet I need to make a decisions and...FAST lol as I need the money!
What do you guys reckon? Any help would be needed!
Thanks!
Rolphez
I probably go for the desire as I dont like the iphone lookalike of the samsung galaxy.
And if you need the money you'll probably get more for the samsung as its just released in Australia.
The GPS on the Desire is amazing... where as on the Galaxy S, all I've heard is reports of how bad and useless it is... that made my mind up when I almost bought one
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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rolphez said:
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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You can always root the samsung and remove the crap
Or just use a different launcher...
In videos I saw, Samsung Galaxy's CPU was performing noticeabley better, especially in 3D apps.
The Samsung should have aproximately 3x the 3D performance that the N1 and the Desire has.
Due to the 3D chip they're using.
hard choice indeed, i imagine the galaxy camera is also better, maybe if you remove all the bloatware from the galaxy it will be more responsive
it's also better outdoors?
i think galaxy, but it all depends on your needs, init!
btw i luvs me desire
well, galaxy s got super amoled and better gpu...everything else is same or better on desire. lame UI on samsung and i rly dont believe in samsung updates, after seeing what happened to i7500... imho desire
I have almost the same predicament.
I currently have a HD2 and I was so dissapointed that software wise, it was at the end of it's life. I thought that was a stupid faux-pas on the part of HTC and feel incredibly let down, as a lot of HD2 owners do. It looks like Android isn't ever going to be a viable option on it, and if it were, it would probably be a half-working shell.
So, thanks to O2 Ireland changing pricing in my contract, I was able to get out of my 18 month contract by 16 months on it so I bought a desire. The first thing I noticed, was that sense was nowhere near as polished as on the HD2, but I can live with that.
To cut a long stgory short, the network I was sold the phone on was utterly useless for data (Meteor) so i cancelled that contract, and tried to get the desire on voda. There were none in the shop, but the salesman in carephone warehouse in Ennis, kindly offered to sell me a samsung s i9000 on the proviso, that if if didn't like it, I could take it back and get a desire (as long as I made or received no calls/texts) so I stuck a disabled voda sim in and use it via wifi.
I instantly hated the Galaxy s because of 2 things. The blatent Iphone look, and the cheap plastic build quality of it. I can see that chrome outer edge looking worn in no time at all. Build wise, this is the worst phone i've come across. The battery cover is so thin and flimsy, and it's polished plastic so just inviting scratches and finger marks.
Anyway, 1st impressions aside, The User interface was just awful, But I have to say, that now i've installed launcherpro, and fancy widget I am really enjoying the phone.
I have a few days to choose which one to finally end up with (the Desire, or the Galaxy) and at this point I am torn.
I think what worries me most with the Galaxy, is updates. There will be an update to android 2.2 sometime in the far future, but I've heard others say thats the end of the official road. That in itself doesn't bother me, as long as newer versions of droid can be put on it. I think thats where most peoples concerns with this phone are. The desire has a company behind it with a better (but not always in the case of the HD2 and a few others) track record of updates, and there is a much larger community of cooks and enthusiasts for the desire.
The info out there at the moment on the Galaxy is sketchy. I've read people talking about how any cooked rom is only made from an official rom. Does that mean that when droid 3 comes out, that this phone is left behind? Does the same stand for the Desire?
Sorry for the long post.
Dave
PS. I just remembered my other MAJOR grievance with the Galaxy s. You have to use Samsungs proprietary software to access the phone via your computer. On the Desire, I just plugged it in, and could instantly see the sdcard. Not tried it with linux, but I suspect the galaxy won't be seen. Think I just made my mind up... Or maybe not.. Aargh
Thank you all for the replies, and I don't mind the long replies Dave, it's always best to hear such experiences as it helps me make a decision.
Here are my Pro's and Con's of both devices:
Starting with the Cosmetics:
1. The Build Quality of the Desire is by Far better than the I9000 - the i9000 feels like a toy rather than a phone.
2. The Desire looks much better than the Samsung i9000 - The whole reason I moved to Android is to forget the much hated (hatred is a personal opinion) iPhone look I don't want to be reminded by it again!
3. The Samsung i9000 is lighter than the Desire and although I actually didn't mind the lighter weight, my hand preferred to feel something solid rather than a piece of plastic. (I have to admit the HTC legend is my preferred phone as far as solid design is concerned!)
4. Samsung has a bigger screen than the Desire, and it's definitely brighter or cripier with it's Super AMOLED but pixel count is the same, and the 3.7" is more than enough in the Desire.
Moving on to other stuff...
5. I played some nice 3D games on the Samsung and I must admit for those who are into gaming, it's brilliant, I don't really care about such games i'm more into word games and stuff which the Desire manages to perform just fine in running them.
6. Using Swype input on the Samsung is much better than the desire, although I did manage to install Swype on the Desire and it works fine, but Samsung is more responsive it was just a pleasure to type on it.
7. Samsung's rubbish crap software on it is annoying and I seriously can't be bother rooting and installing custom Roms on it, I'd rather do it on the Desire - simpler and have a bigger variety of ROMS and updates...
8. I think I just convinced myself - Desire it is! LOL But i'll continue a little, GPS works much better on the Desire...
9. HTC is a much better mobile phone company for android systems (my opinion anyway)
10. Sound is better on Samsung than on Desire.
11. Samsung gives you 2GB space to install your apps on Desire gives you on 512MB but I believe this hurdle can be easily passed through A2SD.
12. Samsung comes with 16 GB Storage...which, though it's a good thing, yet you can buy a 16 GB micro SD for the Desire...Problem solved
Yea, the list can continue, but these are my thoughts...it is a hard decision to make...but i think weighing the pro's and con's...Desire beats the Samsung despite it being inferior with some of the hardware specs, I'm sure HTC will release something soon to match or surpass Samsung...
btw, just a lil question...how better is sound on galaxy s? i got desire, but i got no samsung to compare them
just curious, since im mainly using phone(other than phoning ^^) as mp3 player
For me, The perfect Android phone would be the HD2. I am appaled they wasted such a superb device on a dead OS. To double the insult, they will not offer a WM7 update path (I realise that's down to M$ but thats no damned excuse to someone who bought it thinking it would be future proof for a year or 2)
I love the size of the HD2's screen (but hate the touch input, it's very poor), thats why I was drawn to the Galaxy S. The screen is simply superb. Even using the stock droid keypad, the experience is much better than the HD2 and Desire combined. It is a pleasure to use the keypad, and swype performs really well. The desire by comparison is dull and boring. The colours don't jump out at you, and it's impossible to use in daylight.
I read all your pro's and con's and can only agree with you (apart from the sound, as I haven't compared them. I don't bother with mp3's etc.)
I think I am definately leaning more towards the Desire at this point. Technically it isn't as good. The screen is poor when compared against the Galaxy S. The buttons are clunky and unintuitive (The touch sensitive buttons on the Galaxy S are it's best feature IMHO), and the power button positioning is a pain in the the you know what! But it is likely to be much better supported by the community, and the company and thats important to me, as I fully intend to get back into developing again. The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
I'm going to investigate the rom cooking side of the Galaxy S now to to finally make my mind up. I saw a thread asking for £9.95 to access an online kitchen, but I thought that was against the principals of the community. Can't stand people trying to make money out of other peoples knowledge. If thats the kind of thing to expect from the average Galaxy S developer, then HTC it is
I decided on the Desire as it was voted and chosen by multiple sites best mobile phone of last year. Also got an HD2 just because it looked fantastic and will probably be the last wm6.5 phone - lots of apps I like still not on Android.
It's simply a fantastic phone with great community support. Owning it 2 weeks I've already rooted it, got apps2sd+, froyo (defrost), now froyo with sense (djdroid)...
I loved the HD2 when it worked, it went back to HTC for a no quibbles change of motherboard as it was constantly rebooting. My experience with Samsung customer service and support has not been great I must say (have an Omnia). Battery was never satisfactory, gps fix terrible, TomTom was not working first 6 months as Samsung's gps implementation was plain bad...
A friend got the Samsung, waiting him to break it so I can say 'told you so'...
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I decided on the Desire too. The GPS on the Galaxy was unuseable. It's a great device, but I think i'm going to get much more mileage out of the desire. So took it back today, and got a shiny new desire.
dave wroe said:
...The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
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Not to mention, 32GB MicroSD's soon to be coming down in price! And performance wise, I doubt you will be able to notice a difference on a decent class.
Think you chose the better deal with the Desire, just for the overall quality it gives you, even in its relatively small stature... I wanted the Evo, it's not in the UK, the Desire is a perfect stepping stone till we get 4G, although a stepping stone as is any phone.
I think Desire it is for now, until HTC release a new better device...until then I don't think the Samung i9000 is worth it (even with all it's pro's)...I have a brand new one with me for sale...anyone interested?!
Unless you really use the 3D chip from the Galaxy S I would go for the Desire. Samsung's phone quality is rubbish, the Galaxy is no exception.
As said the GPS is very poor, while the Desire's is very good. The processor itself isn't much better than the Desire's. And if you get even one update on the Galaxy you should be happy.
The SUPER AMOLED is a bit nicer but that's mainly because the Desire has a relatively cheap AMOLED screen. It won't help you much in direct sunlight although they claim it will.
The resolution is the same and personally I think 3,7" is a better phone size than 4".
I agree with you on that one...
One thing struck me from using the Galaxy S is the screen quality and touch responsiveness compared to the desire. The Galaxy S pisses over the desire in this department. Add the better Camera and camcorder and I was actually thinking of moving from the desire to the Galaxy. I use the phone for a lot for navigation duties so to hear that the GPS is lacking is a real shame. Is it a hardware problem or something that can be fixed by an update that it will probably not receive by the sounds of things?

Need an opinion??

Well i have an upgrade due next month and i have been trawling the web looking at new phones but dont know what to get.
Now ill not be going any bigger than lets says a samsung galaxy s11. Thats about as big as phone as i would get..
Ill be sticking to android but what brand does not bother me.
I have been looking at the htc one x, samsung galaxy s11 and the sony xperia s.
But im open to any option.
One thing the phone must have it good memory. More than the our Wonder has to offer.
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I'm personally digging the HTC One series. As much as I love the One X, it may be too expensive for me and I think it's also on the bigger side that I'm sure you may not like as well.
The One S on the other hand are smaller and I would personally recommend it for you.
However, I don't think that now is the best time to buy an Android phone because there's not much choices out there for the newer generation of phones. Prices may drop when more newer phones are available on the market.
I'm rather interested at what the SGSIII specs will be when it is officially released.
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I'm sure 1GB of RAM would be enough for a lot of multitasking considering that we're doing okay with only 512MB(more like 150MB+) with the SGW. What concerns me though, are the fact that new phones like the HTC One series have non-removable battery and no external SD card slot. It would be a shame if all phones in the future has these.
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I'm personally digging the HTC One series. As much as I love the One X, it may be too expensive for me and I think it's also on the bigger side that I'm sure you may not like as well.
The One S on the other hand are smaller and I would personally recommend it for you.
However, I don't think that now is the best time to buy an Android phone because there's not much choices out there for the newer generation of phones. Prices may drop when more newer phones are available on the market.
I'm rather interested at what the SGSIII specs will be when it is officially released.
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I'm sure 1GB of RAM would be enough for a lot of multitasking considering that we're doing okay with only 512MB(more like 150MB+) with the SGW. What concerns me though, are the fact that new phones like the HTC One series have non-removable battery and no external SD card slot. It would be a shame if all phones in the future has these.
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Not worried about ram size, was internal memory was on about. But i see what ya mean by size of the phone. Also phone industry is always changing. You could by the best phone in the world today and in two weeks time something better is out. So im not to worried about that but as much as i hate samsungs strategy about there phones they make prob the best ones on the market.
SIII seems to be the flagship phone so and its ment to be released fairly soon..
Also price of the phone does not matter. On bill do most i think ill be payin is 200euro on the bill im on at the minute
My advice would be if you don't need the latest and greatest,go for the GS2.But if you are prepared to wait,hold on till the Samsung announcement next month and they will definitely announce a smaller device along with the GS3...I think they are calling it the I9300...it will have the latest Exynos.Personally,I don't quite trust HTC yet,already there are lots of reports of issues with the One Series phones.Sony is still playing catchup for now,still using last year's hardware.I think for a really good Android experience keep tabs on the next generation superphones from Sammy.
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Google Nexus S is a very good choice with low budget but high performent
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What provider you with snwman......
Like you can see, I am with Tesco Ireland...cheap and cheerful....but, shyte phones!!!
I actually also like cheap and cheerful in phones, so, if I mess up, no big deal....
I am waiting for delivery from Amazon, of T-mobile Vivacity[TMV], for the Missus, it was only about £100...maybe €125....
It is basically a T-mobile branded ZTE Crescent (Blade II)....
but, like with all ZTE, there is an active modding community, on Modaco....
already they have ICS ROM's CM9, and AOKP [Kang]....
ZTE are also going to introduce a big new line of reasonably priced ICS phones this year, so be on the look-out....
Chinese [ZTE] are going to rule the World...OK
My first Android was the original Blade[Orange San Francisco]....and it was, and is, a treasure, so easy to flash and mod, none of this Kies or ODIN stuff, really stock Android......no overlays, like TW.
Keep an eye out for cheap and cheerful Chinese produced phones, is my advice!!
Personally, I like the look and spec of this ZTE Mimosa X
2012 ZTE range
@Irishpancake I'm with meteor at the minute but can switch easily will look for the best deal.
I get impatient so I think I'll have to go try phones out. It's the end of may my contract is up so hopefully something comes up by then.
Be a hard choice. One thing is quad core phones necessary compared to a good duel core phone.
If you're not looking for the latest or fastest, I'd suggest getting something like the Nexus S or anything with Google Experience (or whatever you call it). I think it's worth because they most likely will have full support from google with the frequency of updates and everything.
I also remember reading something about Sony soon releasing source codes of their phones to the modding community so it's also something to take into account at least for me.

Own a Galaxy Note but..

I'm a click away from buying this phone.
Anyone come from the Note? The One X worth it.
I have both since last week.
Note has bigger screen, which is better for e-reading, browsing, games.
One X fits better to the hand ('cause it's smaller); is faster in some very specific tasks (like indexing a stardict DICT to Fora dictionary), but overall in normal games and browsing, it's the same as Note; handle 1080p videos better than Note.
My One X has a yellowish screen, so take this thread I created yesterday with a grain of sault, since many One X's have normal white screens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606636
myself11 said:
I have both since last week.
Note has bigger screen, which is better for e-reading, browsing, games.
One X fits better to the hand ('cause it's smaller); is faster in some very specific tasks (like indexing a stardict DICT to Fora dictionary), but overall in normal games and browsing, it's the same as Note; handle 1080p videos better than Note.
My One X has a yellowish screen, so take this thread I created yesterday with a grain of sault, since many One X's have normal white screens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606636
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Thanks mate, sounds like I'm sticking to my Note then. Its only the size now and again that bothers me with the Note. Very tempted to buy the One X but the GSIII is around the corner but still fancy the One X :-/
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Thanks mate, sounds like I'm sticking to my Note then. Its only the size now and again that bothers me with the Note. Very tempted to buy the One X but the GSIII is around the corner but still fancy the One X :-/
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stick with the note mate and then just sell that and go for the galaxy s3..one x is a gorgeous phone, beautiful screen and all round one hell of a beast of a phone. but my first android phone was the s2. for me was easier to root and basically i could do anything i wanted with my eyes shut..so far with the HOX is like running a marathon...probs would get easier when there is a one click root procedure but for now to many problems and hassles with warranty if you unlock and etc..
anyways wait till the s3 comes out and then compare and go for the one you want...i know which one i would be looking at though
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stick with the note mate and then just sell that and go for the galaxy s3..one x is a gorgeous phone, beautiful screen and all round one hell of a beast of a phone. but my first android phone was the s2. for me was easier to root and basically i could do anything i wanted with my eyes shut..so far with the HOX is like running a marathon...probs would get easier when there is a one click root procedure but for now to many problems and hassles with warranty if you unlock and etc..
anyways wait till the s3 comes out and then compare and go for the one you want...i know which one i would be looking at though
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Sound advice. Thanks guys.
recklesslife85 said:
Sound advice. Thanks guys.
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I've had the one x since release and about 2 days later my wife got a galaxy note. To be perfectly honest, in the current state of both devices (both latest available releases) I can't find anything remotely better about the one x over the note. In fact I am quite embarrased to show my device to my wife after the build up I gave to her about it.
The only possible reason that I can think of for you to chose the one x right now is if all your trowsers have small pockets.
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I've had the one x since release and about 2 days later my wife got a galaxy note. To be perfectly honest, in the current state of both devices (both latest available releases) I can't find anything remotely better about the one x over the note. In fact I am quite embarrased to show my device to my wife after the build up I gave to her about it.
The only possible reason that I can think of for you to chose the one x right now is if all your trowsers have small pockets.
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Sell up and get the Note lol
Had the note which I was very happy with and now own the one x. I do prefer the one x over the note even with the issues because it suits my needs better. Also I hate tw and plastic feel to note. Personally if i were you i would wait for gs3 and then make a decision.
So I
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Sell up and get the Note lol
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I'll swap with you!!
Second thoughts....I can't admit that my wife has a better device than me. I'll just have to pretend for the time being and hope things improve.
As others have said, stick with the Note and wait to see what the SGS3 has to offer, or for HTC to iron out all the software/build issues the One X has right now.
Yeah will stick to the Note. I'm running Stunner rom anyways so its near enough stock android. I'll check the Galaxy S3 and see if that's worth jumping ship.
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Gave my note to my son but am contemplating switching with him. Great device but the battery life simply is pathetic. Hopefully an update will solve the battery life issue but if it doesn't am going back to the note with the bigger screen and decent battery life.
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Get the HOX best phone I've had, no problems at all, had several android phones and tablets and this just obliterated all of them.
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Stick with the Note
recklesslife,
Stick with the Note and wait for the SGIII. Your a Samsung user and use to the TW. Further, its in the heads of the general public that Android's best phone is from Samsung (SGII). Therefore, the anticipation for the SGIII to best all smartphones including the IPhone is given. Even though HTC fans won't like it. The marketing Samsung has put into the SG line is great all over the world. HTC needs a more complete package in terms of marketing and reliability of their phones.
Most of you say keep the Note. So I guess that's what I'll do. Was tempted to buy the One X. Can't knock the note really so don't know why I want to get a different phone. One X does look nice..
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I owned a Note but as of about 5 mins ago I don't have it anymore but I would say go with the One X. I find the One X is far superior to the Note in every area except for pure screen size. For me I would rather have a better screen than a bigger screen. Oh and touchwiz isn't as heavy as sense nor as buggy as sense 4.0
Hate Touchwiz and hate phones with an overly plasticy finish. Why I ended up switching from a GSII to a Sensation.
I you plan to root though, doesn't really make much difference what phone you go for.
I was considering the G-Note also. I wanted something with a larger screen coming from a SGS2. My first choice was actually the Eluga Power. It has a much more modern processor, runs ICS out of the box, and has a smaller form factor than the G-Note. Unfortunately (for me), it only supports EU HSPA bands. But at the end of the day the G-Note really is older tech and just a gigantic SGS2 with S-Pen.
Here's a dimensions comparison:
Samsung Galaxy Note - 146.9x83x9.7mm, 178g
Panasonic Eluga Power - 136x70x9.6mm, 133g
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1328692/samsung_galaxy_note_vs_panasonic_eluga_power.html
No offence to G-Note fans, but they look ridiculous when you hold them to your ear and you can't constantly wear a BT headset to avoid having to use it that way. I also have a 3G tablet so decided that 4.7ish" (HOX, GN, SGS3) was just more practical. Also, Samsung's release of ICS for the SGS2 has been a cluster so I can't imagine the G-Note's being any better.
Just some food for thought…
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I was considering the G-Note also. I wanted something with a larger screen coming from a SGS2. My first choice was actually the Eluga Power. It has a much more modern processor, runs ICS out of the box, and has a smaller form factor than the G-Note. Unfortunately (for me), it only supports EU HSPA bands. But at the end of the day the G-Note really is older tech and just a gigantic SGS2 with S-Pen.
Here's a dimensions comparison:
Samsung Galaxy Note - 146.9x83x9.7mm, 178g
Panasonic Eluga Power - 136x70x9.6mm, 133g
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1328692/samsung_galaxy_note_vs_panasonic_eluga_power.html
No offence to G-Note fans, but they look ridiculous when you hold them to your ear and you can't constantly wear a BT headset to avoid having to use it that way. I also have a 3G tablet so decided that 4.7ish" (HOX, GN, SGS3) was just more practical. Also, Samsung's release of ICS for the SGS2 has been a cluster so I can't imagine the G-Note's being any better.
Just some food for thought…
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Note was launched on Oct. Obviously it will be outdated in terms of specs. Were you expecting otherwise?
GN is even more outdated. HOX can't even better iP4s in terms of GPU (forget about new iPad). We have no clue SGS3 -- is it called SGS3 or something else??
Which company have been any better in terms of ICS update? How many HTC/Moto/SE phones have been updated? Most people here don't prefer OEM skins anyway. So if someone is going to root and ROM, why bother about OEM release? You are not going to use it anyway. I can understand for the general mass, but for most people in the XDA, I don't think it's a valid argument.
I would say stick to what you think is best for you. No point in forcing my views and preferences. I have seen people happier with their dumb phones compared to other guys with expensive smart phones.
You need to tell us what experiences you want from a mobile before we can advise one way or the other. I have both so can give you a realistic idea about how each stack up in the areas of importance for your use.
I'm going to be writing a review for the One X for the Telecom Tech blog, and will compare it a lot to the Note, which I already reviewed at my site here (the most comprehensive review on the internet at 17,000 words, well worth reading and a good backdrop to the incoming One X review).

Feedback from a bigger screen

Hey guys,
I'm really interested in this phone and I've been reading many threads here. Althought I saw some small comments and feedback from the owners of the Z1C, I haven't seen any major issues with the screen size. I currently have a nexus 4 with its 4.7 inch and I was wondering if I could hear more from the people that came from a 4.7 inch or bigger to the Z1C. I have the chance to buy this phone, but the screen is holding me back. How does it feel to use a 4.3 inch?
P.S.: HTC One owners are specially welcome to comment
P.S.: Does the phone have object removal?
Thank you for the attention and hope I haven't posted on the wrong topic!
Just go to the store and see for yourself...that's what I did. I've owned the Nexus 4, moved to S4, moved on to HTC One and now i'm on the Z1C. To me the screensize is perfect. It's easier to control with one hand and for me it's still big enough.
I am a former HTC One owner. Sold my HTC One for the 2 reasons, that I wanted Xperia Z1 Compact than the HTC One and because of the purple tint issue(Check the purple tint thread in Q&A forum on that section I am one of the first to notice that issue). Although I might not be the right person you want to ask feedback for since I am a fan of small phones rather than large ones. I only bought the HTC One cause I got no choice that time lol! And instantly jumped back to Sony because of this small beauty. For my feedback... Screen is superb
What do you mean by object removal? Are you talking about the Zoe feature of HTC One that can remove objects? If so Z1 Compact does have a feature like that. But it's a little bit limited compared to HTC One. What I meant by limited is that you don't have any control on whether to remove an object or not. The phone automatically removes all the objects that move unlike the HTC One where it shows the objects that can be removed and you can just click it to remove it.
throne64 said:
Hey guys,
I'm really interested in this phone and I've been reading many threads here. Althought I saw some small comments and feedback from the owners of the Z1C, I haven't seen any major issues with the screen size. I currently have a nexus 4 with its 4.7 inch and I was wondering if I could hear more from the people that came from a 4.7 inch or higher to the Z1C. I have the chance to buy this phone, but the screen is holding me back. How does it feel to use a 4.3 inch?
P.S.: HTC One owner are specially welcome to comment
P.S.: Does the phone have object removal?
Thank you for the attention and hope I haven't posted on the wrong topic!
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Came from a Nexus 4, no problem what so ever to adjust to the Z1C.
Came from HTC One, bought the Z1 Compact, love it, the perfect phone at the moment, unless you want a phablet.
Before HTC One I had iPhones for 6 years. The first Android-phone fulfilling my requirements (build quality/feel) was the HTC One, and it was a descent size/performance at the time of it. But Z1 Compact is perfect right now.
Fantastic size, superior batterylife, great screen, faster than a bullet etc..
I'm coming from a N4 as well.
It really depends what you use your phone for and how big a phone you're willing to carry around.
I use my phone mainly for calls, txt, and email. I'll occasionally use it for games, web browsing, and youtube vids, so for me, I'm really not sacrificing much going to a smaller screen.
The big factor for me was the size of the phone. The Z1C isn't THAT much smaller than a N4, but for me, the slightly smaller size makes a world of difference.
IMO, If you consume a lot of media on your phone, switching to a smaller screen might not be worth it.
I had HTC One before the Nexus 4 ... and a bunch of other phones before that ...
I currently have these 3, all functional (the defy is about to be decommissioned but I placed it next to the other two just for the sake of comparison).
To put it in few words: the Z1C is the best phone I ever had in terms of overall score.
Here are my toys
ro_explorer said:
I had HTC One before the Nexus 4 ... and a bunch of other phones before that ...
I currently have these 3, all functional (the defy is about to be decommissioned but I placed it next to the other two just for the sake of comparison).
To put it in few words: the Z1C is the best phone I ever had in terms of overall score.
Here are my toys
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Thank you a lot for the picture! I'm from the USA and I can't go anywhere here to have them compared. As some people here said, the difference between the Z1C and N4 is not really that much. But I'm still leaning towards the Z1C because comparing it with a HTC One, I can see how big the difference is. I'm not much into big phones ( but I admit that the Htc One is amazing)
Open question: Would anybody mind telling me how many and which are the modes of the camera? Did you have to root the Z1C to have any of them? No need to describe them all, it's just I've been seeing many reviews and they are all different: some have sphere mode, sphere 360, motion shot and others don't. I've also seen that some developers here are managing to port the features from the Z2. Are you all having sucess on it?
Sorry for all the question. For me there is a lot to consider before the final decision.
And thanks again for the replies! Really helpfull!
For a size comparison you can use a great online tool available on PhoneArena:
Here are N4 and Z1C side by side:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...xus-4,Sony-Xperia-Z1-Compact/phones/7531,8283

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HTC One M8 is the best phone I have ever come across, its been 4 years and it is slow now. I'd buy one more (if available) but there have been a lot of technological advancements. I want to buy a new phone in the near future that is as mighty as M8 and has the same user base. Still when I come to this thread I see something new going on, this community never stops. I want a phone with complements. Having all of you guys makes it easy to resolve any problem, so many of you developers bringing out new things for us with lack of technical know how. HTC phones are out of picture especially after the deal with Google. Any latest phone or to be launched that you guys will recommend?
Thanks a lot
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I bought the OnePlus 3T a year ago, and no regrets. It's a great phone. I only hang out in the M8 section still, to help folks out.
The 3T was superceded by the 5, then the 5T (there was no 4, as it a bad luck number in China). If I were to get a new phone today, it would probably be the 5T. One review called it the best Android phone, at any price. That may be arguable. But it's definitely one of the best phones for the price (cheaper by hundreds $ US than Samsung S8, Pixel 2, etc.).
Just as important, OnePlus phones have a great community here on xda. That was the other big reason for my purchase of the 3T.
If not for the 4mpx camera, I'm sure the M8 would be considered the best android phone ever created. With the weak camera it's "only" considered one of the best. IMO this phone had everything you wished for when it was released.
My M8 will die someday and it will be a very sad day. I'll have to get a new phone of course, but m8 has spoiled me so much that I think there's simply no better phone feature wise even now.
If I was to choose now, I'd think between LG V30, Sony Xperia XZ Premium or XZ1, strongly leaning toward the LG. If I was really low on budget I'd settle for HTC 10.
As redpoint73 said, OnePlus 5T would be a great choice too, considering the quality to price ratio. Personally I wouldn't buy it as I find it lacking in some aspects, but it's still a good phone.
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HTC One M8 is the best phone I have ever come across, its been 4 years and it is slow now. I'd buy one more (if available) but there have been a lot of technological advancements. I want to buy a new phone in the near future that is as mighty as M8 and has the same user base. Still when I come to this thread I see something new going on, this community never stops. I want a phone with complements. Having all of you guys makes it easy to resolve any problem, so many of you developers bringing out new things for us with lack of technical know how. HTC phones are out of picture especially after the deal with Google. Any latest phone or to be launched that you guys will recommend?
Thanks a lot
#LoveM8
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I would highly recommend the M9, they are cheap to buy now and Octa Core with 3GB ram, that's some real punch. They are also identical in shape and size to the M8, have a good following on here and well built!!
I bought a ZTE Axon 7 over a year ago because my M8 had bad battery life (I didn´t want to replace it after seeing some tutorials) and my top speaker didn´t work anymore.
The Axon 7 has a similar look. It is all metal, has dual speakers which are pretty loud with a good quality and has a great 1440p OLED screen. The camera is also much better with OIS, 20MP and 4K video recording.
The modding community is also very active and ZTE is even supporting the devs of LineageOS with code so they can get Oreo working on the device.
siddharthsachdeva said:
HTC One M8 is the best phone I have ever come across, its been 4 years and it is slow now. I'd buy one more (if available) but there have been a lot of technological advancements. I want to buy a new phone in the near future that is as mighty as M8 and has the same user base. Still when I come to this thread I see something new going on, this community never stops. I want a phone with complements. Having all of you guys makes it easy to resolve any problem, so many of you developers bringing out new things for us with lack of technical know how. HTC phones are out of picture especially after the deal with Google. Any latest phone or to be launched that you guys will recommend?
Thanks a lot
#LoveM8
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The HTC 10 is a very nice upgrade, if you're going to go "low-ish" budget.
If I had to replace my M8, I would go with either the HTC 10 ($350) or the new U11 (now $550) - if anything because it's waterproof with good build quality and camera.
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The HTC 10 is a very nice upgrade, if you're going to go "low-ish" budget.
If I had to replace my M8, I would go with either the HTC 10 ($350) or the new U11 (now $550) - if anything because it's waterproof with good build quality and camera.
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No budget constaints, also HTC will minimizing if not closing its operations in the smart phone segment as most of the talent is given to google in billion dollar deal. Any other recommendations?
eskimosound said:
I would highly recommend the M9, they are cheap to buy now and Octa Core with 3GB ram, that's some real punch. They are also identical in shape and size to the M8, have a good following on here and well built!!
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No budget constaints, also HTC will minimizing if not closing its operations in the smart phone segment as most of the talent is given to google in billion dollar deal. Any other recommendations?
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No budget constaints, also HTC will minimizing if not closing its operations in the smart phone segment as most of the talent is given to google in billion dollar deal. Any other recommendations?
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If you don't like my recommendations, then do your own @#$% homework!
Shop around for the features you want in a smartphone and buy the one that meets the highest number of your needs.
I gave a couple of good recommendations, so if you don't like them don't whine and ask for other recommendations please.
siddharthsachdeva said:
No budget constaints, also HTC will minimizing if not closing its operations in the smart phone segment as most of the talent is given to google in billion dollar deal. Any other recommendations?
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Google Pixel II
Bit I would go with and M9/M10 or U11
BergischNRW said:
I bought a ZTE Axon 7 over a year ago because my M8 had bad battery life (I didn´t want to replace it after seeing some tutorials) and my top speaker didn´t work anymore.
The Axon 7 has a similar look. It is all metal, has dual speakers which are pretty loud with a good quality and has a great 1440p OLED screen. The camera is also much better with OIS, 20MP and 4K video recording.
The modding community is also very active and ZTE is even supporting the devs of LineageOS with code so they can get Oreo working on the device.
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Axon 7 looks like a great phone. It really looks like a good successor to the "spirit" of the M8, with a serious emphasis on the audio experience (with the front facing speakers like the M8). The only thing that was holding me back, was the (almost complete) lack of developer support for previous ZTE devices. But (surprise to me) the Axon 7 really caught on, and looks to be enjoying some really great support, as you mentioned.

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