Hi
After 3 weeks I got this annoying problem. The external plastic layer that makes the cover mat is peeling off my phone on both sides (front and rear).
I brought it back to the store (Phone House Germany).
For me it's just a production problem, the glue that is detaching.
But the shop pretend it's my fault, and doesn't want to repair it for free, neither change the phone.
The are asking 335,72 EUR to repair it.
When the problem occurred I also had several reboots and sometimes the phone was very.
Both phenomena occurs even when not using the phone. I had reboots at night when sleeping. Or the phone became very hot in my pocket.
My suspicion is that the glue is detaching due to the phone becoming to hot.
My question is, are there other people who also have the problem with the cover that begins to peel off ?
In attachment you can see a photo of the cover.
i didnt find any issue because my XZL is white,
why its your fault man ? i think that is product defect.
can you give more picture, front side.
kickthefreak said:
i didnt find any issue because my XZL is white,
why its your fault man ? i think that is product defect.
can you give more picture, front side.
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That's what I'm asking the Phone House, prove me that it's my fault (the have to due to article 5 point 3 from the Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees).
Article 5
3. Unless proved otherwise, any lack of conformity which becomes apparent within six months of delivery of the goods shall be presumed to have existed at the time of delivery unless this presumption is incompatible with the nature of the goods or the nature of the lack of conformity.
But I can not send any more pictures. My phone is already since 18-5-2013 at the phone house (repair center w-support.com GmbH).
I've seen this before and I think phone house has too, that might be why they don't want to repair it. This happens if you get some cleaning agents on the phone. Some window/glass cleaner does this. You either got some on your phone directly, touched your phone with some on your hands or put the phone on a surface that has just been cleaned with some.
A friend had this problem and also send the phone back. Either way, the seller has not to pay for repair.
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Sirence said:
I've seen this before and I think phone house has too, that might be why they don't want to repair it. This happens if you get some cleaning agents on the phone. Some window/glass cleaner does this. You either got some on your phone directly, touched your phone with some on your hands or put the phone on a surface that has just been cleaned with some.
A friend had this problem and also send the phone back. Either way, the seller has not to pay for repair.
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oh i see this is why the problem happen on black version, because white version is flat on the back and made by plastic
kickthefreak said:
oh i see this is why the problem happen on black version, because white version is flat on the back and made by plastic
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I'm just a bit confused since he said it's peeling of at the front and the back. My front is made completely out of glass, I don't see what could peel of there?
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Sirence said:
I'm just a bit confused since he said it's peeling of at the front and the back. My front is made completely out of glass, I don't see what could peel of there?
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maybe he mean peel off the screenguard on front.
dmeerpa said:
That's what I'm asking the Phone House, prove me that it's my fault (the have to due to article 5 point 3 from the Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees).
Article 5
3. Unless proved otherwise, any lack of conformity which becomes apparent within six months of delivery of the goods shall be presumed to have existed at the time of delivery unless this presumption is incompatible with the nature of the goods or the nature of the lack of conformity.
But I can not send any more pictures. My phone is already since 18-5-2013 at the phone house (repair center w-support.com GmbH).
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Don't give up. It's definitely not your fault. Do you have authorized SONY service centers in Germany? Here in India, we have them, although the staff over there are incompetent and pathetic. We go directly to the service centers to get the faults corrected. If they are really hell bent on proving that it's your fault then head to the consumer forums and lodge a case against them. This is unacceptable. Btw, does it look that way only when you view from one particular angle?
dmeerpa said:
Hi
After 3 weeks I got this annoying problem. The external plastic layer that makes the cover mat is peeling off my phone on both sides (front and rear).
I brought it back to the store (Phone House Germany).
For me it's just a production problem, the glue that is detaching.
But the shop pretend it's my fault, and doesn't want to repair it for free, neither change the phone.
The are asking 335,72 EUR to repair it.
When the problem occurred I also had several reboots and sometimes the phone was very.
Both phenomena occurs even when not using the phone. I had reboots at night when sleeping. Or the phone became very hot in my pocket.
My suspicion is that the glue is detaching due to the phone becoming to hot.
My question is, are there other people who also have the problem with the cover that begins to peel off ?
In attachment you can see a photo of the cover.
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wow its the first time i see that on a phone, if u said that it happens when it gets hot, it can be a battery problem as your phone is restarting. dude that really sucks, now that i saw that i wont change my white ZL to the black ZL..... dont give up SONY must replace your phone.
Neither Sony nor phonehouse has to pay when someone gets chemicals on their phone. And those picture sure looks like he did. Maybe he even cleaned his phone with some cleaning agents since it's not only one spot but several. Getting worse when hot could be a reaction of the chemicals in the cleaning agents.
I am sure most phones don't react well to chemicals.
If Sony has to start paying when people don't treat their phone the right way they'll have to stop selling phones at all pretty soon or they'll end up broke.
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Sirence said:
I've seen this before and I think phone house has too, that might be why they don't want to repair it. This happens if you get some cleaning agents on the phone. Some window/glass cleaner does this. You either got some on your phone directly, touched your phone with some on your hands or put the phone on a surface that has just been cleaned with some.
A friend had this problem and also send the phone back. Either way, the seller has not to pay for repair.
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Sirence said:
Neither Sony nor phonehouse has to pay when someone gets chemicals on their phone. And those picture sure looks like he did. Maybe he even cleaned his phone with some cleaning agents since it's not only one spot but several. Getting worse when hot could be a reaction of the chemicals in the cleaning agents.
I am sure most phones don't react well to chemicals.
If Sony has to start paying when people don't treat their phone the right way they'll have to stop selling phones at all pretty soon or they'll end up broke.
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No I didn't touch any cleaning products at all. Not at home or to clean the phone.
The problem started during my vacation. I was at a hotel where I do not have to clean or work.
Sirence said:
I'm just a bit confused since he said it's peeling of at the front and the back. My front is made completely out of glass, I don't see what could peel of there?
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maybe he mean peel off the screenguard on front.
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No not at all, its really a very tine film that's glued on the plastic cover at the back and front of the phone.
In front I mean the very fine edge around the screen. It's not really visible but I can feel it, that's it became rough.
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Btw, does it look that way only when you view from one particular angle?
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It's from every angle visible. The black cover is in fact very glossy. It seems covered with a very thin plastic film to rend the cover matte.
It's that film that came lose. Every where that it has been removed the phone is now glossy black. The glossy black plastic looks very cheap
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No I didn't touch any cleaning products at all. Not at home or to clean the phone.
The problem started during my vacation. I was at a hotel where I do not have to clean or work.
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No not at all, its really a very tine film that's glued on the plastic cover at the back and front of the phone.
In front I mean the very fine edge around the screen. It's not really visible but I can feel it, that's it became rough.
It's from every angle visible. The black cover is in fact very glossy. It seems covered with a very thin plastic film to rend the cover matte.
It's that film that came lose. Every where that it has been removed the phone is now glossy black. The glossy black plastic looks very cheap
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well if its my phone and sony dont want to replace/fix that i would take off all that plastic or buy a black housing. and just replace the back part.
After 4 months I got my phone back...but still not repaired. The way I was treated by The Phone House has made it for me a matter of principe.
They keep saying the damage was my fault.
Following article 5 point 3 of 'Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees ', they need to prove it. During this 4 monts they never did. They send me away with a lettre coming from Sony Xperia Support Germany where they state that they damage was caused by a cleaning product or other chemical.
If they think in German that Belgian are stupid, then they are wrong. I studied industrial informatics and I did had courses in physics and chemistry also. So I know that you need special and expensive equipment en products to conclude such thing. They didn't even look at they extreem heating problem of the phone. That may be an software issue, but the phone should be shut off before it becomes burning hot.
But I got one luck, my professional client is the Belgian Federal Police. I already contacted yesterday some of my relations at the police and monday he will look if the cover can be investigate by a forensic team of the federal judicial police. In that case I will be able to prove Sony and the Phone House that no chemicals where found on the cover. And that they were lying. And in that case I will let them sue for fraud.
That is one weird problem. I have had my phone for over 5 months without any cases or screen protectors and it is scratch free and not peeling.
...did you spill caustic acid all over it?
Joking aside might be a manufacturing defect as from the 3 people I know that have had this phone for a couple months without these issues.
Related
Hi,
I thought id post this here as well, as its a concern for Touch Pro2 owners.
Basically, the Touch Pro 2 has a little sticker under the battery cover, but on the outside, which goes from cross-hatched to red if it gets red. If you send one in for repair with it red, the UK repair centre doesnt even look at it, and bills you over £300 for a repair (or £20 to get the phone back unrepaired).
Thing is, im sure it hasnt met water. It must have been my sweaty hands when changing the SD card (whose slot is right next to the sticker).
I advise everyone with a touch pro 2 to cover the sticker somehow (i covered it in a tiny bit of paper, which in turn i covered with plastic tape on my replacement touchpro2 from ebay).
See my original thread (with a picture) here
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...657/htc-uk-refusing-to-repair-my-touch-pro-2/
Im currently in dispute with HTC about this. I filled in their customer service satisfaction survey with very low marks, and someone from HTC rang me, and said he would try and sort it. Ive also written 2 letters to their head office and their repair centre to complain.
George
Is it possible to just cover the sticker with a piece of cellophane tape?
Thanks for the heads-up dude. Just checked mine and it's half turned read. It's about a week old so no idea how it happened. Unless rain somehow got in it, but if you can't use them in the rain without voiding warranty that is shocking.
Interesting - mind attaching that picture here for those of us who aren't members of the other forum? This is pretty scary for HTC to base their entire decision to warranty on a moisture-sensitive sticker......
Here is the pic...
Here is the picture HTC sent me. Interesting to see other(s) have had the issue. Has anyone else got a red sticker despite not having got it wet? that will help my case with HTC if it comes to small claims situation...
thanks
George
ripnetuk said:
Here is the picture HTC sent me. Interesting to see other(s) have had the issue. Has anyone else got a red sticker despite not having got it wet? that will help my case with HTC if it comes to small claims situation...
thanks
George
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wow...thats kind of sneeky of them to do. I have had someone spill water next to my phone and that would ahve easily caused it to turn red. Or lets say your talking on the phone in the rain. If a water dropplet hits it the right way, the red sitcker is going to show. I guess I will put scotch tape over it.
Just checked mine and found a red sticker. Hope I dont have need of repair service.
Yep my 10 week old one is pinky red, still works ok, I don't think it has changed since I had it though?
It might be different on the CDMA model, but I don't see one near the microSD slot. There is one on the opposite side that is clearly visible. With 3 internal moisture detectors (one on the headphone jack), one on the side, and one on the battery, it sure sounds like some planned obsolescence just through regular wear and tear.
Also, remember that the sticker is already pink/red, but it will bleed out when wet (or even humid).
ripnetuk said:
Here is the picture HTC sent me. Interesting to see other(s) have had the issue. Has anyone else got a red sticker despite not having got it wet? that will help my case with HTC if it comes to small claims situation...
thanks
George
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Thank you for the picture, George! Mine is still nice and white with red cross hatches, BUT..... I noticed that the mount I was using from ProClip custom mounted on my air vent in my vehicle produced a TON of condensation on the backside of my phone the last time I removed it - today was a hot one here in Florida! Since the air vent is largely blocked by the phone's holster, I decided to suffocate the vent by pulling off the vent and putting a plastic bag inside it and then reassembling the cover, so it isn't out of place.
Considering I run a vinyl graphics company, I'll be getting a small square of my thin by heavy duty metallic grey vinyl cut out and put over an oversized section of the moisture detector!!! NOT going to have anyone dispute warranty issues with me over unpredictable weather or a small amount of condensation!!!
Wow, I checked my phone which I just got a week ago, and that sticker is already is half red (other half is still white). Of course it was no where near water except for maybe when I put on the screen protector. I hope we get enough complaints about this to HTC so they'll work something out with us. By the way, I have a Sprint TP2.
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Of course it was no where near water except for maybe when I put on the screen protector.
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(remembering that I just said I run a vinyl graphics company....)
Why in the world did your phone come into contact with water when you were putting on the screen protector???????????
GarciaM25 said:
(remembering that I just said I run a vinyl graphics company....)
Why in the world did your phone come into contact with water when you were putting on the screen protector???????????
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Sprayed the screen with a water based solution to apply the screen protector?
Got a response back from HTC
Dear Sir,
I apologise for the delay getting back to you - I wanted to be certain I had all the information at hand before replying.
I am afraid that unfortunately, the answer is not good, and the repair centre and sticking with their stance in this matter.
This quote comes directly from our escalations office, after they received your letter:
Keeping a phone in plastic bag in Hot or Humid conditions can cause condensation, especially when there is a temperature change. Not being able to package the phone “correctly” is not a suitable claim, the packaging arrived with us undamaged.
Actual fault is irrelevant, the device has been in contact with moisture and has been modified without consent (illegal software)
Modification without consent is against the warranty card. The use of non HTC software to unlock a device or install unofficial, and unlicensed versions of Microsoft products is also against the warranty, and in the case of Microsoft software also illegal and infringes on copyright laws. If this had been the only issue he would have been quoted for Mainboard replacement only.
The effects of moisture entering a device cannot be predetermined, the fact that a part has not failed yet due to moisture does not assure that it will not fail in the future. In order to be certain that a moisture affected device will function until the end of the warranty period we therefore must replace all possible components.
Whilst we value our customers, in this instance we are unable to agree to your request for a warranty repair on this device.
HTC can only assist you further by providing documentation to support any insurance claim you may be able to make for accidental damage, or by returning your device to you unrepaired which we will not charge you for.
Unfortunately, I cannot push this any further. This decision is above my authority, and I have to abide by our Head Offices decision.
I understand this may be a frustrating response after such a long wait and I wish the news were better. I can only recommend at this point that you contact your insurance company and raise the issue with them.
Best Regards,
HTC Europe Customer Care
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Sprayed the screen with a water based solution to apply the screen protector?
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Eeek, okay! Well, I've never done that for screen protection, and I buy package of 17" monitor screen protectors to cut up and use for loads of little projects.... Did the instructions tell you the glue had to adhere that way? Most newer screen protectors don't use that type of adhesive anymore, bonding to the surface without leaving an residue that would be required when using water-based solutions........ If a screen protector kit I purchased required me to spray on something water-based before application, I'd throw it out and start with something a little less abrasive and potentially damaging!
And George, that SUCKS..... wow, well, now you know why I buy a SquareTrade warranty for EVERY expensive electronic item I own, right down to the Jawbone2 I use everyday! When my charging / data USB port broke on my first Kaiser, it was during the 1 year warranty, so I called HTC first - they told me that it was a wear and tear item, it would cost well over $300 to repair, and that NO warranty company would repair it under their terms and conditions..... I promptly called SquareTrade, they had me send it in, and in 8 days later, I had a brand new charging port installed at NO cost to me!
For more details, check out www.squaretrade.com - and no, I don't work for them, but I tell everyone I know about how great they are and cheap their plans are!
My Response to HTC
Can you tell me the official address of HTC UK please so I can
instigate county court proceedings?
And can you relay the following back to your head office please (or
even better, give me a contact there so I dont have to bother you
again)
1. I have a number of people who support my claim that the sticker can
turn red without the device having got wet enough to cause damage. See
my link to the forum earlier.
2. What I didnt realise earlier is that the sticker in question is on
the outside of the phone - i accept I might have handled it with
sweaty hands. If you had found a sticker on the inside that indicated
water ingress, I would accept your point.
3. It didnt have illegal software on it - it had Windows Mobile 6.1
(ok, not the original rom). i am licensed to use Windows Mobile 6.1,
as that came with the device. The exact build of the rom is NOT an
excuse to not repair my device
4. The 'condition' of warranty regarding 'illegal' software was only
sent to me AFTER you booked the phone in. I wasnt told this in the
original email when I sent it off.
5. I dont NEED HTC's 'consent' to install whatever I want on my phone.
It was bought unlocked, and had an official WM6.1 build, downloaded
from HTC.
6. Are you seriously saying that HTC replace mainboards in preference
to re-flashing the rom? thats plain mad, and not very environmentally
friendly.
Anyway, what is comes down to is that I dispute that the device got
sufficiently wet for you to dishonor the warranty.
Furthermore, HTC know full well that the rom, and the red sticker has
nothing to do with the problem reported (they say themselves that its
not relevant). I believe I have a good chance at getting this sorted
out by the county court system, which will only cost me around £30 - a
gamble im willing to take.
GarciaM25 said:
Eeek, okay! Well, I've never done that for screen protection, and I buy package of 17" monitor screen protectors to cut up and use for loads of little projects.... Did the instructions tell you the glue had to adhere that way? Most newer screen protectors don't use that type of adhesive anymore, bonding to the surface without leaving an residue that would be required when using water-based solutions........ If a screen protector kit I purchased required me to spray on something water-based before application, I'd throw it out and start with something a little less abrasive and potentially damaging!
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Static-cling screen protectors are so 2005:
Installation video
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A little water never hurt anything. No, it's not glue, and it doesn't leave any adhesive residue. You can keep living in the dark ages, but the 3M Scotchgard material is amazing. I've done over a dozen installations on my devices and never had any water damage, and I've never activated a moisture detector. Zagg was one of the first to make this available pre-cut for electronic devices, but there are at least a half dozen startups (Best Skins Ever, PhantomSkinz, Ghost Armor, BodyGuardz, etc.).
And no, I don't work for any of them either. Maybe it's because I've done water cooling on my PC that it doesn't scare me to use a small amount of mostly non-conductive water and then let it dry for 24 hours.
Thanks for the heads up, I was wondering what that was.
Mines perfectly fine, red and white stripes, but I'll cover it up with something.
thats a horrible picture. where EXACTLY is this sticker supposed to be? on my usa tmobile version, the only sticker i see is located on the side of the case next to where the battery sits.if this is the sticker you're referring to, it seems like a pretty logical place to me. water would have to creep in to the side of the battery to hit the sticker. unless you have one somewhere i don't? you mean on the inside of the battery cover? your post say's on the "outside". ???
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thats a horrible picture. where EXACTLY is this sticker supposed to be? on my usa tmobile version, the only sticker i see is located on the side of the case next to where the battery sits.if this is the sticker you're referring to, it seems like a pretty logical place to me. water would have to creep in to the side of the battery to hit the sticker. unless you have one somewhere i don't? you mean on the inside of the battery cover? your post say's on the "outside". ???
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, look to the left of your MicroSD card maybe?
i just Bought my LG G3 Yesterday ,
it was used gently, as i appreciate the feeling of a new device in my hands like any geek,
i did not drop it ( no need to justify here )
i took my G3 to show off a friend and i asked people were in the room if anyone noticed that my phone fell in the past few minutes - one of them is working in a cellular shop and he immediately brought me the news that he already knows what happened by my response because some one who bought g3 from his store came back with the exact same crack and claim he did not drop the phone at all as well.
so i have a broken Lens, camera cant take photos right and i am Deeply disappointed By Lg as i was expecting a higher build quality,
i might be the first to report but just - wait for it ,
people will Google the problem and i am just the first to let you know.
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I don't believe it. Your friends lied.
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It doesn't just crack I dropped mine off a balcony 3 floors onto some rocks and it broke the screen of my F400S and some other stuff, but the lens was fine. Hence why I have a D850 but lenses don't just crack.
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I just had the same thing happen to mine. Not sure how or why it happened but it did. It was in my hot car turned off for an hour or so and then when I got home ours later, I noticed it. It has never been dropped or hit.
i think someone hijacked your phone... lol friends are friends...
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It is a very, very small chance that it happened by itself - BUT if the glass was fitted in the phone, and was made with too high tension; it COULD technically brake "on its own". However, very rare for this to happen...
I just tried pressing my lens with my thumb, with quite a lot of pressure - didnt do anything
Anyone know where I can get a replacement lense or where to be looking for them when they come available? Talked to LG and they said they could repair but it would take 2 weeks and they could not tell me what it would cost. I can use my camera because my glass is completely gone over the camera, I would just like to get something over it to keep dust out.
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I just bought an LCD separator machine send it to me I need practice lol. I seen someone else say the sent there's into lg and cost $150 to fix. You could always get a square trade warranty and go that route
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If I could just find a thin 1/2 inch diameter piece of glass, I could fix it myself. Problem is finding the glass. Would not be hard at all to fix and like I said my camera works perfectly fine.
I just had the exact same thing happen. Phone was fine last night. Set it on night stand before bed. Showered and got ready in the morning. No drops. Got in the car in the morning and touched something jaggedy when I was stopped at a light. Weiiiird. Looks exactly like OP's pic. Luckily I paid for insurance since it's included in T-Mobile's jump program, so hopefully they'll swap it out.
It is one of the areas of the phone which get hotter from use, but I find that an unlikely factor in causing that problem.
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It is one of the areas of the phone which get hotter from use, but I find that an unlikely factor in causing that problem.
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Yeah, I'm really at a loss. I kept it in the bathroom as I showered, but it doesn't get that hot/humid...not enough that one would think it'd make a substantial difference.
Hate to say it, but my lens just cracked as well about an hour ago. I went to take the phone off my desk, and it kinda slipped from my fingers. The phone never made it completely off the desk. The two bottom corners were still touching, and the top half maybe a few cm off. Nothing I would ever consider a drop. When I flipped the phone around, to my surprise the lens was cracked. I don't know what to say? Any other phone I've owned in the past this wouldn't have happened to it in this very same situation.
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Hate to say it, but my lens just cracked as well about an hour ago. I went to take the phone off my desk, and it kinda slipped from my fingers. The phone never made it completely off the desk. The two bottom corners were still touching, and the top half maybe a few cm off. Nothing I would ever consider a drop. When I flipped the phone around, to my surprise the lens was cracked. I don't know what to say? Any other phone I've owned in the past this wouldn't have happened to it in this very same situation.
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Yeah, man. My old HTC M7...I always run skinless, treat my phones like dirt. Dropped it maybe three times onto concrete from waist height, nothing. So this is pretty gnarly.
Update on T-Mobile, they basically said that they'd take it back under warranty IF it's a manufacturer's defect. But because it's physical damage, they'll probably flag it as user error and charge me for it. I'm claiming manufacturer's defect because I swear this happened spontaneously without a drop whatsoever. So now I basically have to call LG directly, and I'd probably be up for a fight. If anyone here has experience or advice it'd be greatly appreciated.
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Hey, I had the same issue with the AT&T version, ended up having to send it back along with my powermat (since I assumed that might have caused the crack). They repaired it without charge since they determined that it was indeed a manufacture defect. So if you have something similar it is probably a manufacture defect, and hopefully they will make a note of this soon.
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Hey, I had the same issue with the AT&T version, ended up having to send it back along with my powermat (since I assumed that might have caused the crack). They repaired it without charge since they determined that it was indeed a manufacture defect. So if you have something similar it is probably a manufacture defect, and hopefully they will make a note of this soon.
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I just looked at my phone last night and I have the same issue. I'm on att and I'm going to call them today to see if they will repair it for me. I'm a bit upset honestly. The camera world buy the broken glass distorts the pictures and makes them look foggy. Julz05 who did you send it back to? LG or AT&T?
No matter what, I can never stay away from android for long.
idelgado782 said:
I just looked at my phone last night and I have the same issue. I'm on att and I'm going to call them today to see if they will repair it for me. I'm a bit upset honestly. The camera world buy the broken glass distorts the pictures and makes them look foggy. Julz05 who did you send it back to? LG or AT&T?
No matter what, I can never stay away from android for long.
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I sent it back to LG. I called the LG service number and explained the problem, they issue a RA# and you have to send it to their warehouse. Took them almost 2 weeks to fix the phone, and they are just mailing it back now
I wanted to come back and post an update for my circumstance just in case any in the future needs to do the same.
Unfortunately I couldn't send my unit back to att or lg because my water damage sticker had been tripped. I had my phone in my pocket and I went on a ride in an amusement park and didn't realize we want under waterfalls! Needless to say I got soaked and water seeped into the phone but after sticking it in rice overnight I was lucky enough to not have water damage besides the tripped sensor. I went on a search and found a seller on eBay selling the top piece which includes the camera lens cover, power/volume rocker. It cost $38 plus $6 shipping and took about a week to get to me. To replace it was fairly easy. Removed 7 screws and unsnapped the old part and then applied the new piece.
One thing to note: the original piece States 850 in various areas and the new piece States 855. However it is the same exact part and for $44 I replaced itself myself without having to be without my phone. Here are some pictures :
Here's the link for the eBay auction http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=351144850263&alt=web
No matter what, I can never stay away from android for long.
Just found this thread after my UK D855 did exactly the same, I've had it several months. found Replacement parts on ebay
Exact Same Problem
Hi - today I found the exact same fault in my phone. Like other posts here, I did not drop it or get any impact on the phone.
I am in New Zealand and am really disappointed in what I thought was otherwise a great phone. I now have to waste my time trying to establish whether I have any cover for this problem and also realise that it looks like impact damage and technicians will claim it was my fault.
I think this is a manufacturing fault and reading here confirms that something is very wrong here.
Thanks.
Today I had the M9 in a window mount for GPS. After arriving, I took it from the holder to see the sapphire glass had a big crack through it. This phone is 6 days old, hasnt been dropped or anything. Always in a case and always in an inside pocket or on the sofa arm in my house when not in my hand.
It looks a clear case of insurance
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That's not good & one would expect the sapphire to hold up to even high temperatures.
Insurance & or return for replacement.
Duncan1982 said:
That's not good & one would expect the sapphire to hold up to even high temperatures.
Insurance & or return for replacement.
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No insurance on it so far, but will be popping back to the store ASAP. Ive always loved HTC Build quality but this has left me baffled and frustrated
DjLukeW said:
No insurance on it so far, but will be popping back to the store ASAP. Ive always loved HTC Build quality but this has left me baffled and frustrated
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Yeh can understand why, hopefully an isolated incident.
Get back as soon as you can & good luck.
Looks like the case is scratched and the camera glass looks like it has an impact point on it..
It definately isnt or hasnt. I sed to work in mobile retail so I know excactly how it looks and sounds. But can guarantee that it nothing has impacted it.
Also IRL the crack is perfect and there is no impact point visible
DjLukeW said:
It definately isnt or hasnt. I sed to work in mobile retail so I know excactly how it looks and sounds. But can guarantee that it nothing has impacted it.
Also IRL the crack is perfect and there is no impact point visible
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you should be within the return/exchange period which would not use up your Uh-Oh claim.
shenye said:
you should be within the return/exchange period which would not use up your Uh-Oh claim.
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In the UK we dont have that.
However, sensible staff in O2 Hanley sorted me out today and replaced my phone as they could see it was a definate quality issue.
Case closed
DjLukeW said:
In the UK we dont have that.
However, sensible staff in O2 Hanley sorted me out today and replaced my phone as they could see it was a definate quality issue.
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Well that's great news, now to enjoy what is a great device
Were you climbing trees? Bro you must be like Tarzan. Sorry to hear that.
That's crazy. The sapphire glass on that is supposed to be tougher than gorilla glass.
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I'm not am expert in this area, but don't assume too much about sapphire. Though its very scratch resistant due to its hardness, it is also very brittle, and can easily chip or crack especially when impacted on an edge or corner.
Did not know that. Thanks for the info. I really don't want a case but I might have to buy one.
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You aren't the only one to have this happen to their M9 friend. I was lucky enough to be a part of the HTC champions program and have had the HTC m9 since before it was available to buy. Somehow or another the glass on my camera lens cracked as well. The device had previously never been dropped (was in a case) and at the time was in a box. I'm now wondering if the glass is cracking due to some sort of heat issue.
I had to use the "uh-oh" insurance to have repaired unfortunately.
My htc one m9 dev edition was always in a case from day one never dropped or mishandled , I have been looking at the camera glass every time I put it down because of this post and I always lay it down on the face of the screen because temper glass protector and case keeps it from touching the table. I just came back to my phone and there is a clean crack from top to bottom almost in the center of the camera glass. Now I don't know what to do I ordered directly from HTC I guess I will be contacting them, I love the phone but I am not to happy about this.
update: Chatting with HTC Support they have no knowledge of this issue.
update: Only option given was to use my uhoh protection, I declined because if this is a common problem it should be fixed and what if it happens again, having reference number made so I can contact a supervisor when I get home.
update: 1-866-449-8358 is the number HTC has given me and it sends me directly to a operator saying to check the number and try again, I have really started to dislike this whole experience and seeing how its still under 30 days that I just got off the phone with their third party order center Digital River they said I will receive a shipping label in a few days to mail the device back, I really don't want to go to another device but after this I might, if I do stay with the One m9 Ill just order through my carrier to make a much less painless return if it happens again, but after all the wasted time there are other devices from manufactures that I never had any problems with.
My M9 camera cracked too
Hey guys, my camera cracked as well after 2 days of owning it with no sort of mishandling it at all. I just pulled it out once and noticed the camera is cracked. It would be really nice of HTC to recognize it is faulty hardware & offer to replace it for M9 owners...
Lens glass cracked within 24hrs of owning it
Lens glass cracked within 24hrs of owning it, took it back to Sprint. They won't replace it.
Well I am jumping ship, even though I really like this phone, I feel the company is becoming a joke, all tech support can do via chat is issue a uhoh protection and good luck reaching htc in the USA, seems they must have forgot to pay the phone bill. This issue needs to be proven and known but I am not going to spend my money on quality testing, hopefully they will revise the part, but without enough people complaining I doubt anything will be done. It almost feels like it is intentional to get us out of the uhoh protection.
Same thing happened to my phone a few weeks ago. I let my phone charge overnight, woke up & it was blazing hot. I thought nothing of it. I was looking at my phone & noticed a clean crack on the lens. I sent it back and it wasn't counted as a UH-OH protection. That's a plus.
hey guys. I've got this phone for a month now but still haven't checked the waterproofness. Did you try it the first day you got it? should I be super careful with this? I'm scared. I even though it's advertised as waterproof..
Yeap, I've tried it underwater. The screen responsiveness changes, else everything works, including the camera.
not worth the risk, there are enough reports about water damage
I'm tried to test the limits of the phone (i know it could be ridiculous). So I've swum for more than an hour and the phone was under more or less 1,5 m (limit recommended by Sony). It has survived for a moment...Once out i dried it. It has worked for some hours until the battery comes empty. No way to charge it anyway, a component of my battery was dead...I've send it to repair center claiming I had only let it fall in water and they replaced it by a new one
moral of the history don't try to put it in the water just for fun
I have used mine on water several times for several hours, and it's still working fine.
In fact I have tried it the very first day, this way if it's waterproofing was flawed, I would have returned it under warranty.
Now that my phone is more than a year old, i am obviously less keen to put it under water.
I've made lots videos underwater. Dunk phone in beer, whiskey. Dropped it in river. It even got some salty water after i remembered it beeing forbidden.
The phone is waterproof. If not warranty replaces for free. If you got by third party then they often try to make some bs excuse not to deal with it.
The golden rule: if you use miniusb to charge you wear out the rubber flap and it will not be waterproof, if you use dock you won't have this problem.
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I've made lots videos underwater. Dunk phone in beer, whiskey. Dropped it in river. It even got some salty water after i remembered it beeing forbidden.
The phone is waterproof. If not warranty replaces for free. If you got by third party then they often try to make some bs excuse not to deal with it.
The golden rule: if you use miniusb to charge you wear out the rubber flap and it will not be waterproof, if you use dock you won't have this problem.
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Not at all: Sony even explicitly states that water damage is not their problem. If you trick them, or if you're nice, they might help you out, but they're under no obligation to.
dazzerfong said:
Not at all: Sony even explicitly states that water damage is not their problem. If you trick them, or if you're nice, they might help you out, but they're under no obligation to.
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Where i bought it from they said water damage is under warranty.
Why would they advertise the phone in water or spilling water on it if the warranty won't cover it? The salesperson dunk the phone in water to show it was fully waterproof and without leaks before selling it to me.
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Where i bought it from they said water damage is under warranty.
Why would they advertise the phone in water or spilling water on it if the warranty won't cover it? The salesperson dunk the phone in water to show it was fully waterproof and without leaks before selling it to me.
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That's a salesman tactic, but there's no guarantee. If you don't believe me, feel free to and go ahead and go nuts with your phone.
BTW, who told you it's under warranty? The sales staff? I personally asked a technical support person this question (in lieu of some other problems I had) this, and they said no, it's not covered under warranty.
You should be very careful if you try it underwater.. On my first time, the micro usb cover opened up and the phone was damaged, with no warranty by anyone ?
I had to open it up and dry it with hair dryer for an hour.. (and since then it's still non-waterproof)
Conclusion - be careful ?
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My phone got damaged by water in the third time that I put it under water. Seems like due overheating (I was playing, charging and wearing a bumper case at the same time) the back and the back frame unglued in the Sim tray area. I remembered how the screen started to flick and how the water comes out from Sim tray ?. I used a hair dryer and at this moment the phone is working fine?. I replaced the back frame (also, it solves the gaps in the middle where are the magnetic charging and the Lock/Volume buttons). By now, I am waiting the rear cover, it should arrive in 15days. But after that bad experience I won't put the phone in water anymore.
Btw, does anybody knows if there's a difference between fresh water and seawater/ pool water?
I've been told from Sony that the warranty is only on fresh water damage..
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Salt water leaves salty residue on the phone and is also more corrosive than fresh water. So, Sony won't cover damage in salt water.
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Submerged my z1c in a glass of water upon getting it just to check if it's waterproof. A week later, i used it at the beach and it got submerged pretty often in saltwater that day but no water damage. Occasionally i wash my phone with soap under running water maybe every 2-4 weeks(I'm a germaphobe...) My friends also like to take my phone and submerge it in water randomly for fun. I guess it's also because of me that a number of them ended up buying the z2 and later z3 :laugh:
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That's a salesman tactic, but there's no guarantee. If you don't believe me, feel free to and go ahead and go nuts with your phone.
BTW, who told you it's under warranty? The sales staff? I personally asked a technical support person this question (in lieu of some other problems I had) this, and they said no, it's not covered under warranty.
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We have local Sony technics who said that. They work couple blocks away from my house and i actually did pay a visit there.
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We have local Sony technics who said that. They work couple blocks away from my house and i actually did pay a visit there.
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Same here.. They said that I'll have warranty only on damage from fresh water, not seawater etc.
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ok thank you all for replies and sorry for being so inactive.
I'm not going to dump it in the water on purpose I think. Even if it's sold as waterproof I'm scared. it was too expensive and it's too amazing phone to just kill it for no reason.
also yes I'm going to buy a dock asap.
thank you again guys!
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Submerged my z1c in a glass of water upon getting it just to check if it's waterproof. A week later, i used it at the beach and it got submerged pretty often in saltwater that day but no water damage. Occasionally i wash my phone with soap under running water maybe every 2-4 weeks(I'm a germaphobe...) My friends also like to take my phone and submerge it in water randomly for fun. I guess it's also because of me that a number of them ended up buying the z2 and later z3 [emoji23]
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I wipe my phone every day with a wet towel [emoji14]
but mostly to erase fingerprints etc.
mag cable instead of dock
Ephixi4 said:
ok thank you all for replies and sorry for being so inactive.
I'm not going to dump it in the water on purpose I think. Even if it's sold as waterproof I'm scared. it was too expensive and it's too amazing phone to just kill it for no reason.
also yes I'm going to buy a dock asap.
thank you again guys!
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About the dock.... It might be cheaper to just buy the mag cable if you want to use your phone while it's charging and save some money. Amazon has a few brands selling these types of cables or adapters when i last bought mine. Or you can check with the stores where you live.
http://www.amazon.com/Magnector-Improved-Performance-Magnetic-Charging/dp/B00Q3GK3YI/
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About the dock.... It might be cheaper to just buy the mag cable if you want to use your phone while it's charging and save some money. Amazon has a few brands selling these types of cables or adapters when i last bought mine. Or you can check with the stores where you live.
http://www.amazon.com/Magnector-Improved-Performance-Magnetic-Charging/dp/B00Q3GK3YI/
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actually I meant just the cable but thank you!
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Anybody else has a visible gap between the glass and metal casing at the top edges of the phone? It is big enough to collect dust and is present on the front and the back of the phone. Galaxy S20.
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Anybody else has a visible gap between the glass and metal casing at the top edges of the phone? It is big enough to collect dust and is present on the front and the back of the phone. Galaxy S20.
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that gap is for the earpiece speaker.
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that gap is for the earpiece speaker.
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I said at the edges of the top not the center. Also in the front and back.
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I said at the edges of the top not the center. Also in the front and back.
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Do you have a photo? The only gap I have is the middle top part of the phone for earpiece. The rest is same with the rest of the phone, down the sides and to the bottom of the phone.
Mine is a s20+ though
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I hope it is visible enough
Looks like you haven't cleaned your phone since the day you bought it with all that dust on it. Get a microfiber cloth and Zeiss eye glass cleaner which is safe for all eye glass coatings so it also safe for your phone. Then put it in a good case. I use the 3 piece OtterBox Defender Pro which also comes with a holster. No case is just begging for disaster to happen the first time you lose your grip and drop that thing on the floor. If it's in a case there won't be any dust getting in the cracks because it won't be exposed.
Didn't buy a pretty phone to put it in a fat ass case.
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Didn't buy a pretty phone to put it in a fat ass case.
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Hope you got Premium are or some other insurance. Good Luck!
Got the same gap on my S20 Ultra LTE Black version which I purchased yesterday :-
My S10+ also had same gap on exactly same location, Link of the topic : https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/gap-left-corner-s10-t3935197
So samsung also have bad quality control now.
This is the reply I received from Samsung :-
Of course he gonna say that's fine XD I worked for samsung customer care and we had briefings where they told us always to push the narrative that's it's fine so we get the least amount of RMA's.
I cannot fit a fingernail between mine, definitely not part of the design
There is a thick gasket inside there which will raise the glass.
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So is it still safe from water and dust or ? I have noticed dust going in that gap but they are just stuck there. Been trying with the service center since few days for getting a DOA but there is a very low chance to get it. Even my S10+ which I bought last year had exactly same gap at exactly same location.. maybe something wrong with the manufacturing. Idk how they could manufacture two different phones purchased/manufactured in a gap of 1 year.
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This is the reply I received from Samsung :-
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That's a generic answer that makes absolutely no sense. If that were the case than all the phones would have a gap.
If you can I would return it and exchange for a new phone.
I have no possiblity to return it to store and get a replacement. None of the offline authorized resellers for any smartphone brand in my country have a replacement policy. I went to the service center but they just sent the snapshots of the gap to their HQ for a RMA and told me that they will call me back within 48 hours with the response of their seniors, however I received no response from the service center yet, its been more than 72 hours. I had already sent an email to Samsung India CEO's Desk and they are following up my case with the service center but I think that it's all just their drama.. they are very reluctant to not issue a RMA for such an expensive phone. I wish I hadnt switched from Apple to Samsung knowingly that there will be 90% chance that all my Samsung phones purchased after 2018 had gaps.
Mine doesnt seem to have that gap or at least it is not as visible, i have black color - if your screen uniformity is acceptable i wouldnt risk replacing phone as you may get one with poor uniformity and that is then a problem
I looked at mine, also grey, it is not like yours.. the gaps is al the same, corners the side, bottom and top.
So I don't think yours is part of the design.
Maybe it wasn't enough to fail at there inspection but I wouldn't be happy with that.
Yeah it seems like that, + the black colour makes the gap look more wider. I have submitted my device to service center yesterday along with the box, bill and accessories. They said that they will be processing the DOA and issue me the certificate today to get a replacement from store. If possible I will try to get a Gray variant this time.