Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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I just picked up a Zero Lemon 2300 and still trying to figure out best way. The instructions they give you just dont make sense to me
They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that
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Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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aeppacher said:
fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
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Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that
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Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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That makes sense to me. I posted on their Facebook page asking for clarification on charging steps. And asked about draining it first before first charge
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
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Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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OK here's the reply I got
Rami Mubasher
For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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OK here's the reply I got
Rami Mubasher
For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
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Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?
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Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?
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I generally like to unplug when full. The reason being, when it gets to 100% it discharges to 99% and the back to 100% it charges. Now in all reality you won't notice any of this battery dying with current gen li-ion batteries unless you keep a battery for like 2 years of use. But then you can always replace it. Bottom line is its not really worth worrying about. I don't know why people say letting it go to 0% is bad. The less repetitive charging, the better, this means letting it go from 100 to 0 as often as possible.
TL;DR it doesn't matter, your battery will outlive your new phone cycle
Thanks a lot for those clear answers!
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Hey I've read on other forums about these battery calibration apps and whatnot, just want to know if anyone has used them and know if they really do work? The wife and I both have the Dinc2 and i loaded andybonestock on both of our phones.. i use my phone like crazy and she barely uses hers. i put drellis's 21 on and UV 50 and within 15 min off the charger i'm down at most to 98 battery and she's already down to 90. her battery drains rediculously faster than mine and they're both the same exact rom's and kernel specs. Will these app's actually work or is there a real/better way to get hers working better?
Use battery calibration from the market and follow the instructions to a T. Her battery could also be defective. Try the calibration first though.
that's what i'm trying to do. I have it charging right now, at 84% then im going to run it.. just wanted to know if there was any proof it worked or any other option
I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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Just a heads up, that is normal, your battery will never stay at 100% it doesn't charge to 100% unless you bump charge it (and that is bad for your actual battery). Having it drop anywhere from 97% to 92% is common, after that you will notice a substantial slowdown in battery drain unless you are heavily using the phone.
I added a picture of my battery life as an example of the length I am getting from the ICS Rom I'm currently using. I have my phone oc'd to 1.4ghz and uv -25 across the board. This screenshot was taken after a day full of phone calls ranging between 3 minutes and 20 minutes, moderate browser usage, moderate facebook usage and lots of texting.
Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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glad you figured it out.
careful on bump charging, it decreases the life of the battery itself everytime you do it.
I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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That's what I did to remove battery stats.. read up on the app and realized its the same thing as doing it in recovery
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I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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Face Palm!
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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*condescending
And if it's a fact, can you provide a link to a scientific study backing up your claims? If not, please don't claim that it's fact based on forum posts by other users and your own anecdotal experiences.
Thanks!
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Source ::
http://androidadvices.com/bump-char...mpaign=Feed:+AndroidAdvices+(Android+Advices)
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?????? Believe it or not ??????
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Lmao thats like a whole day of charging.
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Lmao thats like a whole day of charging.
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Hahaha ....
Funny..
Why not hole night ....????
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Its like you are calibrating your battery again and again... I hav evn seen a thread a same like this for my psp years ago and it worked on it... Still to test on my phone
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I can't find any logical reason to explain how this method will work. I'm a chemist student, and I know the technology which used in our battery. as far as I know, charge our battery longer than its full time will decrease our battery life.
btw, it may sounds silly. after some years, we'll found that our battery power decreased. it will drain quicker than usual. if this happen, we may wrap our battery into a plastic bag then put it into freezer for 3-7 days.
I don't think bump charging is such a good idea. Bump charging kills your battery over time. I'll link an article later about it, soon as I find it.
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...as far as I know, charge our battery longer than its full time will decrease our battery life. ...
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Silvane said:
I don't think bump charging is such a good idea. Bump charging kills your battery over time. I'll link an article later about it, soon as I find it.
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charge more than necessary is a bad idea. if you have good phone, they have overcharge protection circuit that cut charge current. so charge over 100% only waste your time and electric bill. if you have bad phone, that make your battery overcharge, and that's very2 bad. bump charge maybe can fooling protection circuit, but that's make your battery overcharge.
here is my tips, it will double your battery capacities.
- charge your battery until 100%
- unplug your charger, turn off phone if still on
- go to your local store, and buy new battery
- swap your battery and charge your new battery
ok, that's a joke. but it's a good idea if you far from electric for few days. and if you use your phone for years, buy extra battery after 6 month to 1 year after your phone release is a good idea (if you have extra money of course) because it's cheaper (a lot of supply in market).
Here's the article. http://byrong.com/PowerTesting/
It's pretty long so I'll post the important points here.
Interestingly enough, improvements in battery management technology have compounded the average user’s perception of this problem. Older phones were rather inelegant in their charging behavior; usually filling the battery to capacity and then switching to a trickle current to maintain the highest charge possible. This offered the highest usage time in the short-term, but was damaging the battery over the course of ownership. As explained at Battery University, “The time at which the battery stays at [maximum charge] should be as short as possible. Prolonged high voltage promotes corrosion, especially at elevated temperatures.”[1]
This is why many new phones will “lose” up to 10% within a few minutes of coming off the charger. The reality is that the battery was only at 100% capacity for a brief moment, after which the battery management system allowed it to slowly dip down to around 90%. Leaving the phone plugged in overnight does not make a difference: the phone only uses the wall current to maintain a partial charge state.
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Bump It. Or Should You?
One technique that has gained popularity in the user community is "bump charging." To bump charge a device, turn it off completely, and plug it into a charger. Wait until the indicator light shows a full charge (on the ADR6300, for example, the charging LED changes from amber to green) but do not yet turn the device back on. Instead, disconnect and immediately reconnect the power cord. The device will now accept more charge before saying it is full. This disconnect/reconnect process can be repeated multiple times, each time squeezing just a little bit more into the battery. Does it work?
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The answer, of course, is that bump charging definitely works.
So what does it all mean?
If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge. There are currently people experimenting with "fixes" for this, but I have yet to see one that works. Be warned, however, that repeated bump charging will wear your battery faster and begin to reduce its capacity. If you are a "power user" who will buy a new battery a few months from now anyway, this presumably isn't a concern. If you are an average consumer who uses a device for a few years, I would recommend that you stay away from bump charging. The bottom line is that you don't really "need" to do it unless you are actually depleting your battery to 0% on a regular basis.
If you are someone who can top off your phone on a regular basis, do it. Plug it in when you're at home. Plug it in when you're at your desk. As explained by Battery University, "Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory."[2]
Beyond that, the best advice I can offer is to stop paying such close attention to your battery gauge and to just use your phone. Charge it whenever you can, and then stop obsessing over the exact numbers. If you really need more usage time, buy an extended-capacity battery and use it normally.
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Still pretty long, but worth reading.
I don't believe it:''(
Hehehe..:-[:-[:-[
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charge more than necessary is a bad idea. if you have good phone, they have overcharge protection circuit that cut charge current. so charge over 100% only waste your time and electric bill. if you have bad phone, that make your battery overcharge, and that's very2 bad. bump charge maybe can fooling protection circuit, but that's make your battery overcharge.
here is my tips, it will double your battery capacities.
- charge your battery until 100%
- unplug your charger, turn off phone if still on
- go to your local store, and buy new battery
- swap your battery and charge your new battery
ok, that's a joke. but it's a good idea if you far from electric for few days. and if you use your phone for years, buy extra battery after 6 month to 1 year after your phone release is a good idea (if you have extra money of course) because it's cheaper (a lot of supply in market).
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+1 its all just wast our time and decrease the battery life. i think use a tweak script is enough
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+1 its all just wast our time and decrease the battery life. i think use a tweak script is enough
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Agree with u :-\:-\
Ive read through XDA that bump charging increases your battery life but reduces the battery's life span
Welcome back stamatis. Yes, if you read my post in the first page it explains how.
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Maybe this question has been asked for many user.. but I need more clearly solution. My Question is simple.
Which one the best method to change our #GNote2 battery?
a. Charge it whatever have a time to change
b. Change it when our #GNote2 said that we need to charge our battery
c. Always Change until it FULLY CHANGED... and never remove charger cable before battery full.
Or any the best method?
Thanks
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Maybe this question has been asked for many user.. but I need more clearly solution. My Question is simple.
Which one the best method to change our #GNote2 battery?
a. Charge it whatever have a time to change
b. Change it when our #GNote2 said that we need to charge our battery
c. Always Change until it FULLY CHANGED... and never remove charger cable before battery full.
Or any the best method?
Thanks
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lol u can change the battery any time u like,and always remove the charge cable from ur phone,simple
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lol u can change the battery any time u like,and always remove the charge cable from ur phone,simple
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Remove the cable without waiting the battery full? Is it okay?
Why wouldn't it be?
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Remove the cable without waiting the battery full? Is it okay?
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No more battery memory right now .
Of coz you can use your phone battery to under 20% then charge it back to 100%
But it's not easy @ note2.
Everyday I have around 30-40% battery leave when I charging.
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No more battery memory right now .
Of coz you can use your phone battery to under 20% then charge it back to 100%
But it's not easy @ note2.
Everyday I have around 30-40% battery leave when I charging.
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Can you explain more about what you said
But it's not easy @ note2
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Can you explain more about what you said
But it's not easy @ note2
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Bwuh? Not easy? It's as easy as plugging or unplugging it! Sheesh...
You cannot damage your battery by not charging it to full each cycle. At all. Period.
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Can you explain more about what you said
But it's not easy @ note2
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If you use your note2 as normal user.
Internet browser for 3-4 hours
Video for 1-2 hours
What's app ,email ,or something
You can never see the battery warning after one day usage.
-> I suppose you cannot hand on your phone all day time
Thanks you for all of your answer.. now my Battery knowledge has been increased..
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Bwuh? Not easy? It's as easy as plugging or unplugging it! Sheesh...
You cannot damage your battery by not charging it to full each cycle. At all. Period.
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In his defense, I have had several phones where the charging port eventually got flaky and I also kind of worry about this slightly. This includes the note 1.
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In his defense, I have had several phones where the charging port eventually got flaky and I also kind of worry about this slightly. This includes the note 1.
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That has nothing to do with the battery and everything to do with being careless when plugging or unplugging.
OP, you may want to google or wiki the latest battery technology. Those 'tips' (b) and (c) you mentioned were good for NiMH batteries. Nowadays, we use Li ion or Li polymer batteries which do not need to be fully charged and discharged to maintain longevity.
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Two things are important for prolonging your battery (lithium based) life: charging level and depth of discharge. avoid charging to 100% as much as you can, and also avoid wide discharging range.
A good strategy is to charge what you use, that is, if you use only 50% of the capacity every day, then only charge to 80% and use it down to 30%, then recharge.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Ive never heard 'avoid charging to 100%' .
I dont understand how that could be harmful.
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Ive never heard 'avoid charging to 100%' .
I dont understand how that could be harmful.
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It isn't. It's just more FUD about batteries... *sigh*
Listen people. It's -really- very simple. There are no tricks involved. Just drain your battery how you like and charge it how you like. These phones are designed for average people in mind. People who don't have a CLUE about having special discharge/recharge routines. They're designed to be charged whenever the user wants to charge, to 100% or not, as the user likes. The hardware within the charging circuit and battery itself will protect it from harm.
How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?
Do you let it charge overnight no matter what the battery percentage is? Do you let it go down to 40%-50% and then charge it? Maybe 10%-15% and then charge it? Can you somehow damage the battery if you leave it on the charger longer than you should to?
Thanks in advance guys!
BoBBBBBBBO said:
How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?
Do you let it charge overnight no matter what the battery percentage is? Do you let it go down to 40%-50% and then charge it? Maybe 10%-15% and then charge it? Can you somehow damage the battery if you leave it on the charger longer than you should to?
Thanks in advance guys!
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When the phone alerts you to charge .. thats the right time.. and dont charge it overnight the battery will be damaged!!! Im only charging my phone when it hit less than 20%..
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and dont charge it overnight the battery will be damaged!!!
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Is this really true?
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Is this really true?
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I keep reading it, but they never provide any proof or explanation why. Im prettt sure the phone is smart enough to turn off the charging when it hits full.
Tons of battery bs gets spewed like gospel.
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BoBBBBBBBO said:
How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?
Do you let it charge overnight no matter what the battery percentage is? Do you let it go down to 40%-50% and then charge it? Maybe 10%-15% and then charge it? Can you somehow damage the battery if you leave it on the charger longer than you should to?
Thanks in advance guys!
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Google is your friend here. As a rule you should try to keep your device between 25% and 70% charge to get a long life out of the battery.
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Thanks all! And how long should I charge it?
I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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kylec said:
I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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Same here. I think is a myth that batteries get damaged if charging overnight, at least these days that smartphones is actually "smart" and stops the charging automatically when the battery is full.
kylec said:
I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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I've always charged my iPhone 4 overnight and it had the best battery, never damaged.
How to charge:
Plug in phone whenever you want.
Charge multiple times at whatever power levels.
Unplug whenever you want.
Enjoy life.
My batteries last a year using my patented "I don't give a F" method, so it's not worth stressing over "OMG I AM CHARGING ABOVE/BELOW X PERCENTAGE!!!!!111ONEONE" Replacement batteries are cheap and easy to come by, a year is a reasonable lifespan and not stressing over it is priceless.
However, if you feel the need to freak right the heck out over your battery, just do it over there in the corner where I can't see/hear you.
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Thanks all! And how long should I charge it?
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kylec said:
I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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This advice is for battery lifetime, not battery performance. Quote from wikipedia:
A Standard (Cobalt) Li-ion cell that is full most of the time at 25 °C (77 °F) irreversibly loses approximately 20% capacity per year.[citation needed] Poor ventilation may increase temperatures, further shortening battery life. Loss rates vary by temperature: 6% loss at 0 °C (32 °F), 20% at 25 °C (77 °F), and 35% at 40 °C (104 °F).
When stored at 40%–60% charge level, the capacity loss is reduced to 2%, 4%, and 15%, respectively.[citation needed] In contrast, the calendar life of LiFePO4 cells is not affected by being kept at a high state of charge.[47]
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norsepriest said:
This advice is for battery lifetime, not battery performance. Quote from wikipedia:
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Well it wouldn't exactly be full most of the time now would it
I won't deny that the maintaining a charge between 40-60% may prolong battery lifetime but the benefit of having A full battery at the beginning of everyday easily outweighs the "potential" loss of 20% battery capacity after a year. Also the hassle of maintaining a battery percentage between those limits is simply not worth it.
A new battery goes for as little as $6 here in Australia. IF there is any noticeable decrease in battery life (eg. From a loss of max capacity) then a new battery is cost basically nothing.
I charge all my devices over night if the percentage is lower than 85% and all of them still last just as long as the day I got them.
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sleebus.jones said:
How to charge:
Plug in phone whenever you want.
Charge multiple times at whatever power levels.
Unplug whenever you want.
Enjoy life.
My batteries last a year using my patented "I don't give a F" method, so it's not worth stressing over "OMG I AM CHARGING ABOVE/BELOW X PERCENTAGE!!!!!111ONEONE" Replacement batteries are cheap and easy to come by, a year is a reasonable lifespan and not stressing over it is priceless.
However, if you feel the need to freak right the heck out over your battery, just do it over there in the corner where I can't see/hear you.
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Exactly.
I mean seriously, why on earth people think too much about charging, when to charge and all, if my battery will be damaged or not, this isn't a phone of 1995! And there is no harm done if you charge overnight.
I've used all my phones like this and never had a problem with battery, not the slightest, however I don't use any phone for more than 18 months.
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But I'm many devices the battery is not removable...
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If overcharging does not destroy your battery and its only a myth.. then why is it included in the USER MANUAL??
For now you will never notice it.. but as time goes by you will feel a slight change in battery usage..but by that time I think you have a new phone.. so dont worry about it..
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gabamoner said:
If overcharging does not destroy your battery and its only a myth.. then why is it included in the USER MANUAL??
For now you will never notice it.. but as time goes by you will feel a slight change in battery usage..but by that time I think you have a new phone.. so dont worry about it..
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Lol but it also says in most manuals that you should charge for 6 -8 hours prior to using the device even though it's unnecessary.
I think its only really there to cover themselves for as many situations as possible
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But I'm many devices the battery is not removable...
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Same thing. By the time there is any noticeable impact on the battery most users will have a new phone.
My X10 is about 3 years old now and used by my brother. I charged it every night (sometimes even during the day as well) regardless of percentage and to this day the screen time and overall time are still almost the same as the first day. Definitely no more than a 10% decrease
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I've never noticed a difference in by charging over night. I've noticed a difference when using different chargers though.
Phone beeps I plug it in, when it shows charged I unplug, not exactly difficult
Just like the topic says I just want to know how long should I initially charge the battery and how would I go about doing that if I don't have just a battery charger? It's a stock oem battery I just got from eBay and it didn't come with any instructions so I'm trying to figure out the discharge and charge instructions also so I don't fry this battery
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No special steps necessary.
right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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DocHoliday77 said:
right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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RedJack117 said:
Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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Yes That's correct steps. Anytime bellow 10 % is good time to charge. Do try to wait till its 100 % before unplugging though. Lithum Ion has only so many Cycles.
RedJack117 said:
Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
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Ah I understand... I just want the longest out of my battery but now I'm debating on what phone to get for black Friday! Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
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Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
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Perseus71 said:
Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
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Aright thank you both... I try not to use the phone on charge anyway so that 20 minute thing is fine plus I hear it's bad for the battery and I feel like that's what caused My battery to fry in less than a year
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I personally don't even care. I just charge it whenever I want regardless of what percent, and leave it charging overnight and get 100% when I wake up. The best thing about this phone is that it has a removable battery. If my battery ever dies, I'll just buy another one.