[Q] Bought a Galaxy S4 Mini - few questions - Galaxy S 4 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

It won't arrive for a little bit (1saleaday is slow to ship), so I figure I'll ask some questions in the meantime.
Does it support MHL 2.0? I've seen conflicting info, in that some places don't even mention MHL support. And if it's not 2.0, does it require that specific 11-pin Samsung adapter? Selling my HTC One and not sure if I should just include my current 5-pin adapter with it.
Does it work with the Smart Dock like the regular S4 and whatnot? Assuming it works with MHL 2.0, I don't see why it wouldn't work with the Smart Dock.
What kind of sound hardware does it have? I don't suppose its Wolfson...
Does it support exFAT for microSD? I've seen confirmation that it supports 64GB cards at least.
And any idea if it'll have a wireless charging back like for the S4? Don't know if it even supports wireless charging.

I've tried mhl 1.0 and 2.0. Both don't work. Also tried USB OTG also doesn't work.
I have a 64gb micro sd but I can't remember how it's formatted. But definitely works.

irv777 said:
I've tried mhl 1.0 and 2.0. Both don't work. Also tried USB OTG also doesn't work.
I have a 64gb micro sd but I can't remember how it's formatted. But definitely works.
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Well crap, I was banking on at least regular MHL - are you sure its not the cable you're using (as in, it requires the Samsung specific 11-pin cable)? If not, then I guess GSMarena is wrong (wouldn't be the first time).

I've tried both a cheap one from ebay and the samsung geniune one which works with my normal Galaxy S4 without using the power cable......both cable works on my normal GS4 but it doesn't work on my MIni GS4....i've also tried with or without the power cable attached and still doesn't work.

irv777 said:
I've tried both a cheap one from ebay and the samsung geniune one which works with my normal Galaxy S4 without using the power cable......both cable works on my normal GS4 but it doesn't work on my MIni GS4....i've also tried with or without the power cable attached and still doesn't work.
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Well that really sucks. Oh well, guess I'll stick to using my Tab Plus for that for the time being.

magus57 said:
Well crap, I was banking on at least regular MHL - are you sure its not the cable you're using (as in, it requires the Samsung specific 11-pin cable)? If not, then I guess GSMarena is wrong (wouldn't be the first time).
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only the samsung hdmi adapter works with the GS4 mini due to a specific protocol since it is not HML enabled. I know... it sucks, but it has other ways to connect to a TV

adibadro said:
only the samsung hdmi adapter works with the GS4 mini due to a specific protocol since it is not HML enabled. I know... it sucks, but it has other ways to connect to a TV
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Don't be shy, name a way or two.
Lol ,thanks
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justlovejoy said:
Don't be shy, name a way or two.
Lol ,thanks
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) not shy )
samsung smart TVs have this almost-like "wifi-direct" connection and you can mirror through wifi the phone's display. like sony has with their phones&TVs. you need to be connected to the same wifi... that's it

adibadro said:
) not shy )
samsung smart TVs have this almost-like "wifi-direct" connection and you can mirror through wifi the phone's display. like sony has with their phones&TVs. you need to be connected to the same wifi... that's it
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Hahaha, Figured why have people keep searching for more info. Thanks!
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justlovejoy said:
Hahaha, Figured why have people keep searching for more info. Thanks!
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yeah... just got one and it was a much waited upgrade to my phone... and the size was the selling point i hate those damn 5inch-ers. why would anybody what all that power and resolution in a phone?
I would just go for an awesome camera... but that's just me.
If i run into some cool hacks, i'll come back and post them here.
Cheers!

adibadro said:
yeah... just got one and it was a much waited upgrade to my phone... and the size was the selling point i hate those damn 5inch-ers. why would anybody what all that power and resolution in a phone?
I would just go for an awesome camera... but that's just me.
If i run into some cool hacks, i'll come back and post them here.
Cheers!
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Personally I can go for one.
Screen real estate has always been a plus for me but the remote got me on this.
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Connectivity demo video [UDPATE: new vid, NOVA 3+PS3 controller+HDTV+"how to" guide]

Connectivity demo video [UDPATE: new vid, NOVA 3+PS3 controller+HDTV+"how to" guide]
Basically rather large medley showing many of the connection options available for the Galaxy S3, make sure to use the nav links in the video description to get around the vid:
Note: Since the video I also got NOVA 3 on my S3 and playing it via MHL on my HDTV with a PS3 controller over bluetooth (every bit as freaking sweet as it sounds). Anyone want a guide?
[UPDATE] Demo and guide for playing NOVA 3 wirelessly via a PS3 controller, much better experience (especially on an HDTV and with a home theatre system connected!). Until you've made videos where you control the game by viewing it through the viewfinder in your camera please refrain from being too critical about how badly I suck
Ya sure a guide would b much appreciated
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NZtechfreak said:
Basically rather large medley showing many of the connection options available for the Galaxy S3, make sure to use the nav links in the video description to get around the vid:
Note: Since the video I also got NOVA 3 on my S3 and playing it via MHL on my HDTV with a PS3 controller over bluetooth (every bit as freaking sweet as it sounds). Anyone want a guide?
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F#@K YEAH
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dude this is so awesome! haha so much stuff you can connect
aneeqkhan said:
Ya sure a guide would b much appreciated
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Alright, will rustle one up after I get part two of the review dusted.
Will cheaper 3rd party MHL cables be possible?
LLStarks said:
Will cheaper 3rd party MHL cables be possible?
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I'm sure they will arrive soon-ish.
thank you! now we only need tablet mode. looking forward to your demo of ps3 via bt and mhl
wow this is going to be fun playing with galaxy s3.
Did you have to get a whole new micro usb-hdmi for it to work on tv, mine dont work.
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aussiesausage said:
Did you have to get a whole new micro usb-hdmi for it to work on tv, mine dont work.
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Yep, it's the one that is specific to the S3 (11 pin set-up, rather than 5 like the older ones - I have two of those so I'm annoyed about the change too).
NZtechfreak said:
Yep, it's the one that is specific to the S3 (11 pin set-up, rather than 5 like the older ones - I have two of those so I'm annoyed about the change too).
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Ahh, that's a bit annoying. Thanks for the information though.
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Do you know if you can use a 2.4ghz wireless air fly mouse/keyboard combo while the phone is hooked up to HDTV through mhl? If so, what would I need besides the mhl adapter? USB hub?
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Just tried an unpowered 4 port USB hub with a 32gb flash drive connected and the phone crashed and rebooted.
Excellent video mate, is the S3 your main phone these days? I'm sure I remember you doing a similar review on the Galaxy Note, that's what I have although I did get an S3 for the missus and it is tempting, but I'm holding out for the Note 2.
By the way, can you point me in the direction of a relatively cheap bluetooth keyboard and mouse that will work with my Note, but a set that doesn't come with a usb dongle since I want to use the micro usb port on the phone to connect it via MHL to my TV. If that makes sense.
AdzUK said:
Excellent video mate, is the S3 your main phone these days? I'm sure I remember you doing a similar review on the Galaxy Note, that's what I have although I did get an S3 for the missus and it is tempting, but I'm holding out for the Note 2.
By the way, can you point me in the direction of a relatively cheap bluetooth keyboard and mouse that will work with my Note, but a set that doesn't come with a usb dongle since I want to use the micro usb port on the phone to connect it via MHL to my TV. If that makes sense.
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Yep, S3 is my daily (still love my Note though). Will get the Note 2 for sure and totally respect holding out for it.
Understand what you're saying about the keyboard thing and MHL, will take a look and find some suitable ones for you.
Wow, now that is impressive. I can't believe how much you can do with the S3, simply amazing. The S3 kicks all other "smart" phones back to the dark ages . Another vote for a numptys guide please, first time smart/droid phone user here. Or I will be if my phone ever turns up
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I'm sure they will arrive soon-ish.
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Found one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R0AJ5614
$10
LLStarks said:
Found one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R0AJ5614
$10
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Awesome. $10 sure beats $40 for the official adapter. Just need some compatibility confirmation reviews before pulling the trigger.
Is there anyone out there with a USB DAC who can verify the S3 can actually output digital audio via USB?
This is a long time wish for audiophiles, who will all be getting an S3 if this functionality works.

Video output options

As most people have probably already heard, the "MHL" port on the SGS3 isn't compatible with existing MHL accessories or displays (so it isn't really an MHL port then is it). See this site for more on that.
Sammie has released some over-priced accessories for it, but buying those would reward and re-inforce this move (the only nasty thing the've done on an otherwise brilliant phone) and they would probably become landfill when you get your next phone. Besides, Sammie recently indicated that this port can do more, so I guess that means they will release a second round of video accessories for this phone, making the first round landfill even before you move on to your next phone.
So, if someone really needs video output for their SGS3, what are their options?
Samsung makes a wireless (Wi-Fi) streaming video dongle for the GSIII, but this too appears to be proprietary and possibly just for the GS3. It looks like there are standards coming for wireless streaming, but they aren't here yet (e.g. Miracast).
Are there other wireless video streaming devices that work with the SGS3?
Even better, though, has any other company created accessories that are compatible with the fake MHL port on the SGS3? The best would be something that worked with the SGS3 and with standards compliant MHL devices and displays (of which there are now > 100), but I don't know if that is possible.
Actually, for some users, something a bit different might work...
DLNA for example, which allows you to play content from your phone on any smart TV. It's not the same as 'video out' for your phone, but I think some poeple are just looking for a way to get media from their phone to their display. And DLNA is very widely supported standard now.
Also, these are low cost Android 4 devices in the form of an HDMI dongle - you plug them directly into your TV:
Infinitec Pocket TV
The Kogan Smart TV HDMI dongle
:meh: For $10 you can get the adapter from Samsung to use the old MHL adapters. The new adapter allows USB OTG, if I understand correctly, that is added functionality over what the old MHL offered. I don't think they changed just to make users buy new MHL adapters.
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firetruck41 said:
:meh: For $10 you can get the adapter from Samsung to use the old MHL adapters. The new adapter allows USB org, if I understand correctly, that is added functionality over what the old MHL offered. I don't think they changed just to make users buy new MHL adapters.
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First problem is that would mean you need an adapter for an adapter, which is a cumbersome solution.
More importantly, I believe that what you are saying is not true: I have reviewed the info from Samsung so far and it appears to me that the new adapter adapter does not support any of the additional capabilities (USB org) that Samsung has recently suggested that the 11pin port is capable of.
That means that there will be new accessories soon to enable that capability, so you will have 3 accessories for that one port, just to do one thing.
No cheap and trustworthy ebay alternatives yet??
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Get a HDMI android tv dongle.
Then install mirrorOp sender/receiver for screen mirroring.
Works fine enough but frame rate may not be fast enough for gaming mirroring.
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fylim said:
Get a HDMI android tv dongle.
Then install mirrorOp sender/receiver for screen mirroring.
Works fine enough but frame rate may not be fast enough for gaming mirroring.
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It should be noted that this solution requires that your Android be rooted. Here's the product page for the Android version of mirrorOp.
http://www.mirrorop.com/product_Android_Sender.html
firetruck41 said:
:meh: For $10 you can get the adapter from Samsung to use the old MHL adapters. The new adapter allows USB OTG, if I understand correctly, that is added functionality over what the old MHL offered. I don't think they changed just to make users buy new MHL adapters.
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Has it been confirmed that OTG works together with the new MHL adapter? AndroidNZ couldn't get it to work in one of his video reviews
I couldn't get it to work.
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It's possible that .gs3 can play full hd movies over Mhl port or resolution will by like phone screen ?
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Check this out guys. This is what we need ! Need some clever dev to work with them to get it supported on custom roms !
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-on-the-raspberry-pi/
fylim said:
Check this out guys. This is what we need ! Need some clever dev to work with them to get it supported on custom roms !
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-on-the-raspberry-pi/
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Apparently that is an implementation of the Wi-Fi alliances Miracast standard, which sounds great, but for now (i.e. until Android ships with it) it requires root access.
I have bought a few products and have been successful at hooking my note 2 up to a tv with excellent results. I want to also hook up usb hub. I have had SO much bad luck even trying to find out a solution. It seems something is wrong here... oh I see now since I read all of galaxymhl.com. If there was any chance of me paying for the Samsung dock its NOT going to happen now. Dont ever mess with a standard!
I am ready to get out my solder gun and wire it myself...
I own this..
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...605012&sr=8-1&keywords=caBLE+MATTERS+HDMI+MHL
The micro usb is only for power only - NO DATA!!!
Also just bought this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008FRJORK/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB does not work with the phone! So sending it back today.
I need HDMI as well as DATA simultaneously. If I missed something I am sorry. It just seems people and products are not clear about this.
If there is a site on rewiring these cables it would be awesome. Does anyone have a solution???

USB OTG Connectivity

I bought a Galaxy s3 USB OTG cable (Female USB A to Micro USB Male) and it does not recognize anything that I plug into it. Does anyone know if the USB Host functionality has been removed from the Sprint version of this phone? I want to know before I just assume that it's a defective cable.
I used USB OTG for everything on both Stock and Cyanogenmod. I think you have a defective cable. One of the main features is actually OTG support.
I think your best bet is getting this cable since it's $0.67 with free shipping and it pretty much works for everyone.
Just played a game with Xbox controller and OTG and it was really cool. Hopefully you'll be able to share my experience.
yousefak said:
I used USB OTG for everything on both Stock and Cyanogenmod. I think you have a defective cable. One of the main features is actually OTG support.
I think your best bet is getting since it's $0.67 with free shipping and it pretty much works for everyone.
Just played a game with Xbox controller and OTG and it was really cool. Hopefully you'll be able to share my experience.
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Are you using a Sprint Galaxy S3? I ask because it seemed that the OTG feature was disabled in the Galaxy S2, so I wasn't sure if Sprint would also disable it in the Galaxy S3. From my searching on-line, it seems that those using the T-Mobile and AT&T Galaxy S3 variants are able to connect with USB OTG. For 68 cents, I might as well try ordering another one.
jjw222 said:
Are you using a Sprint Galaxy S3? I ask because it seemed that the OTG feature was disabled in the Galaxy S2, so I wasn't sure if Sprint would also disable it in the Galaxy S3. From my searching on-line, it seems that those using the T-Mobile and AT&T Galaxy S3 variants are able to connect with USB OTG. For 68 cents, I might as well try ordering another one.
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Yeah, Sprint. It worked on stock and on custom ROMs. I use the exact same cable and it works 100%.
Did they have a reason to disable it on the SGS2? I'm wondering why on earth they'd do that.
yousefak said:
Yeah, Sprint. It worked on stock and on custom ROMs. I use the exact same cable and it works 100%.
Did they have a reason to disable it on the SGS2? I'm wondering why on earth they'd do that.
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Not sure why they disabled it because it seems pretty illogical to do that. I ordered the cable, and hopefully in a month I'll be able to see if it ends up working. I'm hoping that it's a problem with the cable and not a problem with my phone.
I was able to get FAT32 thumb drives and my Canon camera to work. USB keyboards and mice did not. NTFS drives did not work either, even though I used a mounting app that makes it work on my tablet.

Tv

Quick question how do I get what's on my phone to my tv do I use the same cable I used with the 3d or do I use Bluetooth or all play ??
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Anyone have a idea on this one?
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You can use a MHL adapter but you have to use the one for the S3...the previous MHL adapters were 5 pin...and i believe the MHL our phone requires is a 13 pin...dont quote me but i think thats the numbers.
If you want to show videos or pictures from the phone to the tv you could use all share or Twonky beam. If you want to mirror what's on the phone then you probably have to buy the wireless dongle.
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What about mirror could I use my old mhl one from my 3d or do I need to buy a new one?
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Post #3 you have to use a new one OR get an adapter for your old one.
the new phone is 11pin I believe so the old mhl will work "directly"
nerys71 said:
Post #3 you have to use a new one OR get an adapter for your old one.
the new phone is 11pin I believe so the old mhl will work "directly"
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Do you have a link where I can get this new one?
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this is the one I bought. I have not tested it yet (have not got it in the mail yet)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290782227679
nerys71 said:
this is the one I bought. I have not tested it yet (have not got it in the mail yet)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290782227679
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Do you see that same cable here?
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Catalog/ProductSearch/?keyword=MHL Micro USB 11pin to HDMI HD
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The most simple solution in my opinion is go to best buy and buy a blue tooth tv adapter. All you would have to do is set it up and then connect via wifi from your phone.
ReapersDeath said:
The most simple solution in my opinion is go to best buy and buy a blue tooth tv adapter. All you would have to do is set it up and then connect via wifi from your phone.
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I rather have the cable that way I can use it at friend's houses ect. ...
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USB Adapter Discussion & Comments

Since the new model tablet does not have the 30-pin charging port, does anyone know if they are developing a mini USB charging adapter that can accommodate a full size USB pen drive, stick, etc...
With the understanding this tablet is new and not very many people have it yet, I thought I would put that question out there, thoughts?
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Rickgsx said:
Since the new model tablet does not have the 30-pin charging port, does anyone know if they are developing a mini USB charging adapter that can accommodate a full size USB pen drive, stick, etc...
With the understanding this tablet is new and not very many people have it yet, I thought I would put that question out there, thoughts?
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Yeah man is called an otg cable and is been around for a while now
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Thank you for the reply back, I'm sorry I was not aware of that
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ckavvouras said:
Yeah man is called an otg cable and is been around for a while now
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Now all you need is for the tablet to have OTG support. For some reason this is always a big question mark.
I have a USB OTG cable and have used it often with my Galaxy Nexus, but depending on the ROM I had to install an app (that needs root - by chainfire I believe) for it to work. So I wouldn't be too surprised if USB OTG didn't work out of the box.
The_Maverick said:
Now all you need is for the tablet to have OTG support. For some reason this is always a big question mark.
I have a USB OTG cable and have used it often with my Galaxy Nexus, but depending on the ROM I had to install an app (that needs root - by chainfire I believe) for it to work. So I wouldn't be too surprised if USB OTG didn't work out of the box.
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Is that right? I was under the assumption that it was plug n play like many other things?
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Rickgsx said:
Is that right? I was under the assumption that it was plug n play like many other things?
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Maybe this works better on non-AOSP devices. As far as I know, Samsung also has their own Bluetooth drivers too, for example. Maybe this is a similar situation, I don't really know. I've never owned a non-Nexus device, I'm sure someone else with more experience with Samsung devices can clarify this for us.
I tested USB storage and it's working .. but maybe selective
Tried 5 sticks .. 4 worked except a Sony thumb drive gave USB is blank and it's led only blinked for a second.
Also noticed that processor got hot quickly.. as it opened the file explorer or maybe it's the media server and indexing
I've used the otg cable with a mouse successfully
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I used a USB on th go cable and was able to transfer documents to an old school kindle from the note 10.1 (2014) edition. Worked like a charm.
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External HDD
Hi.
Has anyone tried external hard drives, do you recognize?
Thank you!
i've tried 4 different portable hd's from 320 to 1.5TB. it recongizes the device and spins them up, but they're all ntfs. i can't even get paragon to mount them. i also tried my hacked powered usb otg (made it for rooting the chromecast) and still the same results. if we can get a kernel with ntfs support it should work fine.
rayman2006 said:
Hi.
Has anyone tried external hard drives, do you recognize?
Thank you!
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Tried this one from the German Amazon. Works like a charm. HDDs are working as well. The most handy while travelling, though: HDMI
As a new user I can't post links. Try searchin amazon.de for Callstel 5in1 MHL-Adapter HDMI, USB, SD für Samsung Galaxy S2/S3 u.a.
indevd said:
Tried this one from the German Amazon. Works like a charm. HDDs are working as well. The most handy while travelling, though: HDMI
As a new user I can't post links. Try searchin amazon.de for Callstel 5in1 MHL-Adapter HDMI, USB, SD für Samsung Galaxy S2/S3 u.a.
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Does the usb work at the same time as the hdmi?
Need ext power?
DeBoX said:
1. Does the usb work at the same time as the hdmi?
2. Need ext power?
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1. No
2. Yes, from the standard device power supply
I have a motorola otg cable that does NOT work on my note. However I have this OTG cable (minus the 11 pin adapter--I bought it in 2012) which DOES work.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CQKM2U/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The tables recognizes my NTFS drive but only as blank.
Just received this
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CFELD0K/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_at_ws_us?ie=UTF8
Works perfectly. Recognized my logitech wireless keyboard/mouse , 32 gb thumbdrive, hp passport..... so far every thing I've plugged into it. Can't beat the 6.99 price tag either!
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While we're on the subject, anyone know of any usb hubs that work out of the box with our new shiny toy?
pref hubs from dx.com
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Hello there,
I have another question regarding these OTG cable/hub solutions.. are there any ways to connect an USB device and simultaneously charge your tablet?
like for example an usb game-controller and be able to play games while charging (or watching movies from a (compatible) hard disc while charging)
Thanks for any answers!

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