[Q] 3.5mm audio plug? Support TRRS w/Mic? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I was very disappointed, when attempting to use my original Nexus 7 with Skype, to find that the 3.5mm headphone jack did NOT support headphones with integrated microphones in a single plug, such as those with a TRRS 4-pole adapter (ie Most Android and iOS devices that support a wired headset with mic for calls etc..). This is a silly oversight, especially considering the front-facing camera on the first N7 and the VOIP apps on Android. I hope it has been remedied with Nexus 7B / 2013.
Can anyone test this out to check for sure? Please check to ensure that audio output, mic/audio input, and if possible the multi-function button (usually used to pick up/hang up calls, or advance music tracks etc..) Thanks

RanceJustice said:
I was very disappointed, when attempting to use my original Nexus 7 with Skype, to find that the 3.5mm headphone jack did NOT support headphones with integrated microphones in a single plug, such as those with a TRRS 4-pole adapter (ie Most Android and iOS devices that support a wired headset with mic for calls etc..). This is a silly oversight, especially considering the front-facing camera on the first N7 and the VOIP apps on Android. I hope it has been remedied with Nexus 7B / 2013.
Can anyone test this out to check for sure? Please check to ensure that audio output, mic/audio input, and if possible the multi-function button (usually used to pick up/hang up calls, or advance music tracks etc..) Thanks
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No it does not support audio input
Source: Anandtech's N7 review

pradeepvizz said:
No it does not support audio input
Source: Anandtech's N7 review
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Did I miss something on that Anandtech report? The quote I saw was " I know a lot of people were hoping for inclusion of line in on the 3.5mm audio jack but I can confirm it isn’t present. " referring to line-in, but does that mean a microphone won't work? Or just that it doesn't support a line-in feature? I don't see anything specific about a mic?

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RanceJustice said:
Did I miss something on that Anandtech report? The quote I saw was " I know a lot of people were hoping for inclusion of line in on the 3.5mm audio jack but I can confirm it isn’t present. " referring to line-in, but does that mean a microphone won't work? Or just that it doesn't support a line-in feature? I don't see anything specific about a mic?
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Sorry for the newb question, but does this mean that I won't be able to use the Square credit card reading device? Thanks...

Kelkil79 said:
Sorry for the newb question, but does this mean that I won't be able to use the Square credit card reading device? Thanks...
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If the sole 3.5mm jack does not support input, as it appears is the case, then you are correct - the Square reader will not work. It does not work on the original N7.

Looks like square works

denimjunkie82 said:
Looks like square works
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Did you try to swipe a card to see if it reads?
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Err... B&H seems to think it does support headphones with mics:
"The tablet features a 3.5mm combo audio mini-jack as well, so you can connect headphones and/or an external microphone."
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/indepth/asus/news/asus-announces-new-google-nexus-7-fhd-tablet

So I managed to get 4 successful credit card swipes on PayPal here. So it must work, I attached a screen shot.

Well, if Square works than that confirms it is a combo port and will support microphones. There is no way it could read credit cards without that.

Very promising indeed with Square.
It would be great if someone with Square (or a similar device) could try plugging in a 3.5mm headset w/mic and see if works as well. Bonus if you can test a headset's "multifunction button", to see if it picks up/hangs up/advances the song etc...

RanceJustice said:
Very promising indeed with Square.
It would be great if someone with Square (or a similar device) could try plugging in a 3.5mm headset w/mic and see if works as well. Bonus if you can test a headset's "multifunction button", to see if it picks up/hangs up/advances the song etc...
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It's not promising - it's proof.
Square uses the mic input to send the card's magstripe data from the reader to the device. There is a 0% chance that it would be able to read the card without this ability.
Whether a multifunction button works or not is up in the air, but there is no question about the mic.

I used my gaming headset to make a call using GrooveIP the other night no problem on my original Nexus 7. Headset had a mic and worked like a charm.
I would assume the updated one would be the same.
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My new 7 says that the reader is connected but it won't acknowledge that I swiped my card. I also tested mic input using a app from the play store and my note 2 headphones and the mic didn't register on that either.
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RanceJustice said:
Very promising indeed with Square.
It would be great if someone with Square (or a similar device) could try plugging in a 3.5mm headset w/mic and see if works as well. Bonus if you can test a headset's "multifunction button", to see if it picks up/hangs up/advances the song etc...
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I tried with my skullcandy headphones. The button successfully plays and pauses the music. I couldn't tell if the mic that was built in was relaying audio but this tablet sounds much better with audio quality.
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I made a test skype call using a headset that I know works with my android phone. The Mic works just fine, loud and clear.

I was going to test but I can't even seem to locate the PayPal Here app anymore...

Huh.... I test using the speech to text with stock key board and when I tap the mic with my finger is defiantly notices it. I wonder why it won't read my card with square? My reader works fine with my note 2
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gksmithlcw said:
I was going to test but I can't even seem to locate the PayPal Here app anymore...
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That explains that... I wonder how long it will take PayPal to fix that....

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[Q] Any audio recording enthusiasts using EVO's!

Hey fellow EVO's!
I'm looking for a solution to the poor audio quality when recording in a high volume setting (concerts, jam sessions) when using the internal microphone.
Yes, I know that it is not the phone's main use as a personal recorder for this sort of scenarios, but as we all know, the iPhone does it a lot better and I'd really like to show up the iPhone geeks if possible by using an external mic with a recording app.
There's this multifunction audio cable from HTC that I've been thinking about buying and it's called an HTC YC A300 Multifunction audio cable. You can find it on Amazon.com
Any experience, creative ideas, development or anything of that sort that would help me out would be great as I'm sure other people would be able to benefit from the info as well!
Thanks in advance...
I haven't done it, but there is a microphone input in the headphone jack -- it's intended to support a wired headset. With the right cable you should be able to use an external mic.
The app Tape Machine records uncompressed wav files. Even with the internal microphone, it actually makes very decent recordings.
Thanks for the reply guys.
Do you think trying a Sony ECM DS30P might work? it's a direct connection compressor microphone.
I will definitely check out Tape machine. I've got the lite version now and i'm eager to try it now! Is it successful in loud environments?
Do you think trying a Sony ECM DS30P might work? it's a direct connection compressor microphone.
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It's better than the built in mic of the phone. Far, far from decent though.
Is it successful in loud environments?
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That completely depends on the quality of the microphone, and how sensitive it is.
Well, I just bought myself one of those nifty little Sony compressor mics and I'm going to see how that works out. I may need a convertor to go in to the headphone jack so it recognizes the input, but I'm not sure.
Another way you could go possibly would be to us one of those multifunction cable things. The model is called: HTC P6300 Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200. There's also a YC A300 as well but I'm not sure of the difference between the two is besides the size.
Any new findings?
sitlet said:
It's better than the built in mic of the phone. Far, far from decent though.
That completely depends on the quality of the microphone, and how sensitive it is.
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So i got that sony mic and a convertor so the phone thinks i'm using a headset...and with some apps, with the convertor it works and some, without, it works too. The only issue i'm having is that the internal mic is still on and working while recording. I want the external mic that I'm plugging in to be the ONLY mic it's using and I'd like to control the input volume.
Any insight as to how we could do that?
I have been looking for a solution to this for over a year. It really sucks that everything else about the device is great except this one feature. As for the iPhone, it sounds like Apple has utilized some kind of filter to reduce the bass the phone records (in my experience, the bass is what causes the distortion in the recording).
If Apple can do it, why can't HTC? :?

Wired stereo headsets that are not earbuds?

My phone (Captivate) came with an earbud style headset with a mic inline so you could answer calls, talk on the phone, and listen to music. Are there any non-earbud (behind-or-over-the-head) style wired headsets like this? All I can find are ones that have two connectors (pink and green, as if for a PC sound card), or wireless bluetooth ones.
You're right I really can't find any wired-stereo-non-earbud-headsets. Here are some that have trade offs.
The following is an over the head/wired/non-earbud, but its not stereo.
http://www.accessorywiz.com/over-th...-headset-headphone-for-samsung-captivate.html
This one is everything you wanted but it's not wired.
http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=219366058&sellerid=19087894
Anyways, Good hunting!
Yes, it is odd that these are not available since there are so many of the earbud type that are. I already have a few bluetooth headsets with input, including one with a boom mic, that work fine but I would prefer a wired one for all-day use.
I found a pair : Sennheiser PX 100-IIi . Although they are made for iDevices, the controls and mic supposedly work with some android phones (I assume the ones with 4 pole connectors). I will soon see. I already have a pair of plain PX100 and they are my favorite wired headphones, so if these work as I hope, they will be great.
phoneturf said:
I found a pair : Sennheiser PX 100-IIi . Although they are made for iDevices, the controls and mic supposedly work with some android phones (I assume the ones with 4 pole connectors). I will soon see. I already have a pair of plain PX100 and they are my favorite wired headphones, so if these work as I hope, they will be great.
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So, do they work on android?
2 die 4 said:
So, do they work on android?
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Nope - they don't change the volume anyway, but you can use the button to stop and start music as well as answer and hang up the phone.
However, a good set of non-wired headphones that does have full control with volume, starting and stopping music, and talking on the phone, including good voice quality despite not having an external mic, is the Motorola S305 bluetooth headphones. They are not as good as the Sennheisers for music quality, though.
phoneturf said:
Nope - they don't change the volume anyway, but you can use the button to stop and start music as well as answer and hang up the phone.
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OK, thank you. Just one more q, what android device did you test it on?
2 die 4 said:
OK, thank you. Just one more q, what android device did you test it on?
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Some of the Samsung Galaxy series - Note, Note 2, Captivate, Skyrocket. Perhaps for some other manufacturer, like Sony, the volume controls would work.
OK, I have a MOTO G, and I have these http://www.meelec.com/MEElectronics_M9P_Earphones_for_iPhone_iPod_p/earphone-m9p-bk-mee.htm and they work. I mean, the controls work like a charm!
I'm guessing it's because it uses the 4 pull jack, so that should mean that the PX 100-2i should work to!

Can I use external mic with the note? what kind?

I want to use my note as a camcorder with external mic hooked to it.
I had problems with the SGS2 and my wireless microphone - it just didn't receive voice to the recording. same issue with the RAZR.
Can I expect same issues with the note?
Have anyone tried connecting a MIC to the note?
Thanks
I have ordered this . http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007N55K0
did not work. lame
so there isn't any solution for this? anyone knows?
irig mic cast
I tested these mics in vegas (ces) and they both worked fine on my note:
w ww.ikmultimedia.com/irigmic
and
w ww.ikmultimedia.com/irigmiccast
I've ordered the small one here:
w ww.thomann.de/gb/ik_multimedia_irig_mic_cast.htm
They told me that it should be available in april.
Chris
newbie here, looking for external mic info. one thing's for sure, you need to use the right connector. this is a 4 contact miniature jack standard to samsung and iphone. the nokia version is slightly smaller just to annoy people. the 4th connection carries external video connection so its' important to get the right audio connections, available from your friend google. also, you'll possibly have to tell the recorder which mic to use in settings somewhere. i use an excellent app called recforge pro.
good luck all
for the intrepid, as long as you get the right connections, any mic will do but the electret type are probably the best budget jobs. damage is extremely unlikely, unless you connect to the domestic electricity supply, a useful idiot-rid.
irig mic cast
Just an update on this:
I've finally received the irig mic cast and it works great with my note
How does it compare to the inbuilt mic?
Any chance you could upload some wav samples of each under the same conditions for reference?
I'm thinking about getting it, or something like it, to use with Audio Evolution and Loopstack.
thanks,
Rich
It's definitely clearer than the built in mic.
Also it's got a small volume switch for high/low sensitivity.
Another thing is that it's quite directional, which means that it records clearly the audio source in front of the mic and pads the background noise.
I'll record some files for you over the weekend.
Thanks.
One other thing, can you confirm that the headphone monitor out on the Mic Cast works with the Note?
ie. if you plug headphones in, can you hear what you are recording?
thanks,
Rich
Does the iRig MIC Cast work on the Note for regular phone calls and Voice-Over-IP apps like GrooveIP?
Hey everybody,
I'm also looking for an external mic however I'm after some sort of extension 3.5 cable to use the phone as a camera.
Cheers,
Ego
richlum said:
Thanks.
One other thing, can you confirm that the headphone monitor out on the Mic Cast works with the Note?
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Sorry about the late reply. The real time monitoring feature is not available in any of the apps which I tested (e.g. Tape Machine Recorder, etc). I think that developers keep such a function disabled on purpose due to the well known latency issue on GB and ICS. Let's hope that google fixes this in Jelly Bean...
KnowHow said:
Does the iRig MIC Cast work on the Note for regular phone calls and Voice-Over-IP apps like GrooveIP?
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It works well for regular phone calls and skype, therefore it should work with other voip apps as well. If you use it for phone calls/voip you have to connect a set of hearphones/speakers to the sound output of the irig mic cast as the internal speaker of the note gets muted.
Egoexpress said:
I'm also looking for an external mic however I'm after some sort of extension 3.5 cable to use the phone as a camera.
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Just plug in the irig mic cast and then turn it around so that the front of the mic is on the same side as the camera lens. In this case I'd set the mic sensitivity switch to "hi".
Thanks for the info.
I just need to find somewhere that will deliver to Thailand now
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I don't know where you can find it in Thailand but you can have a look here:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/dealers
springer.music said:
Just an update on this:
I've finally received the irig mic cast and it works great with my note
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Nice! I use PCM Recorder to record acoustic gigs and the internal mic is way too sensitive to the point of distortion.
Does the iRig mic alleviate this with the sensitivity button?
Thanks!
M
external mic
Hi there,
As I was poking around I stumbled upon the above extermal mike, the seller claims to be the only one selling compatible external wired microphones. I'll keep you updated as soon as I get my hands on it.
ebay.com/itm/SENSITIVE-TIE-CLIP-LAPEL-LAVALIER-MICROPHONE-for-SAMSUNG-GALAXY-SMARTPHONES?item=280916075048&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D2%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D734704348280116824#ht_1797wt_1163[/url]
Ego,
Hi
New to this forum. I play in a tribute band and we want to record some of our rehearsals. The camera on my note is really good but the external mic is waaaay too sensitive. I did use the supplied earpiece that comes with the note, which has a tiny mic, which worked really well recording really loud music off my mac speakers but not sure it will pick up enough frequencies in the rehearsal room. (I am going to try it live but in the meantime will and will put the recording of my mac up on youtube) However I used to use a Sony ecm ds70p on a mini disc years ago but it has long since gone. The live audio quality was always really good with this little mic so I am thinking of getting another one. As far as I am aware the Sony has only a three pole 3.5mm jack but I would need a mic with a 4 pole 3.5mm jack, (I think I have that right???) to be able to record into the Note.
Can someone confirm whether this mic will work out of the box...I have a feeling not...or is there a converter jack that I can buy that would allow the use of the three pole jack in a 4 pole socket. Really hoping this is possible and that there is something out there..problem is I am not too sure how to word a google or forum search on this.
Any help would be really great.
Many thanks
Think you guys might find this interesting. Just plugged in the standard ear buds halfway through and used the tiny mic on there...
I am not allowed to post the link as I haven't done enough posts! If you go to youtube and search for
eGcpHidB6VY you should find it. Worth a watch.
Cheers
antonioeram said:
I have ordered this . http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007N55K0
did not work. lame
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This Microphone can't work. Look:
A headphone 4 pins (sound + mic) have 4 contact, beginning for the point are : Sound Left, Sound Right, Ground, Microphone.
If You see the 3º contact of microphone Sony is big then others. It make contact whit Ground + Microphne. Are short circuited.
Can't work this.
A external Mic can work but w/ a connector 4 pins, using only the 3º and the 4º contact (the 2 side cable).
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springer.music said:
I don't know where you can find it in Thailand but you can have a look here:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/dealers
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Look here:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmic/
The connector have 4 contacts. The 1º and 2º from the point are the sound to white cable. The 3º is ground (common) and 4º are the Mic to black cable.
The question here is. This is a normal 3,5 pin like on Android's or is proprietary from Apple? On that site enter on Store and choice the Dealer more near You.

External Microphone for Video recording.

I searched through the forums and found some posts that said in order to use your external Mic you need a Y adapter. And that it doesn't support stereo, and some other issues.
Can someone link me to a Y adapter that would work along with a good value microphone that I can use during video recording on my Galaxy S III?
I'm surprised that a company hasn't made a product for this yet where you just plug it in and it works. The camera and video quality are great, but the sound is lacking greatly.
You can also get an OTG cable then you can use the yeti and have digital hd stereo
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oreo said:
You can also get an OTG cable then you can use the yeti and have digital hd stereo
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would it work while recording a video?
If I find a mic with a 3.5mm jack can't I just plug it in? the ear buds that come with the phone have a microphone where the volume controls are and it picks up sound during video recording.
enz660 said:
If I find a mic with a 3.5mm jack can't I just plug it in? the ear buds that come with the phone have a microphone where the volume controls are and it picks up sound during video recording.
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the headphone jack can only output a limited amount of power to drive a mic device, any non mobile mic is not going work. if you want high quality sound you must do so with the usb using either an external usb soundcard with analog 3.5mm inputs or just a usb mic like the yeti which is the best you can really get. and yes s3 has native support for almost any kind of usb device so it will work like if you plug in usbdevices to your desktop/laptop as long as it is Plug and play compatible. whether there are good apps for these usage scenarios though is another story.
oh and you are welcome...
oreo said:
the headphone jack can only output a limited amount of power to drive a mic device, any non mobile mic is not going work. if you want high quality sound you must do so with the usb using either an external usb soundcard with analog 3.5mm inputs or just a usb mic like the yeti which is the best you can really get. and yes s3 has native support for almost any kind of usb device so it will work like if you plug in usbdevices to your desktop/laptop as long as it is Plug and play compatible. whether there are good apps for these usage scenarios though is another story.
oh and you are welcome...
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Good info, thanks. Looked up the yeti mic you mentioned, but it's kinda pricey at $109 and not exactly portable either. Do you use it?
(EDIT: too bad most jack mics suck)
oreo said:
the headphone jack can only output a limited amount of power to drive a mic device, any non mobile mic is not going work. if you want high quality sound you must do so with the usb using either an external usb soundcard with analog 3.5mm inputs or just a usb mic like the yeti which is the best you can really get. and yes s3 has native support for almost any kind of usb device so it will work like if you plug in usbdevices to your desktop/laptop as long as it is Plug and play compatible. whether there are good apps for these usage scenarios though is another story.
oh and you are welcome...
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Thanks! So something like this then would be good?
http://www.amazon.com/CAD-Audio-U9-...d=1343280726&sr=1-3&keywords=CAD+9+microphone
I was looking for something like this too to go with my SGS3.
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I was looking at these earlier and thought about getting the edutige http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XC6KHS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER. A few of the reviews mention it working with a couple of android phones. Only issue is it seems to pick up alot of background noise. If anyone decides to get this for their s3 please tell us how it performs.
Not really sure what you want a dedicated microphone for taking videos on a cell phone. If you are looking to make quality videos, you might as well get a decent external microphone and syncing up audio in post production. I know my brother uses this in conjunction with a 60D. Will probably sound a lot better than the $30 options posted above. http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H1-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK/ref=pd_cp_MI_0
I want to record videos with decent sound quality at concerts, etc.. I don't want distorted bass and good audio picture. Recommend me ext. microphone for my SGS3, thanks!

Wired Headset with Mic

I don't want wireless or bluetooth I need a wired headset with mic coming out. Can someone suggest one or would it work with 3.5mm plug?
inningsdefeat500 said:
I don't want wireless or bluetooth I need a wired headset with mic coming out. Can someone suggest one or would it work with 3.5mm plug?
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A
Any wired headset with 3.5mm connector will work with Galaxy S III
This is for phone conversations right? I will be working from home so I need it to work perfectly
I'll sell you one. I got the Nocs NS200 but I accidentally got the one button (with mic) version instead of the 3 button that I wanted. Haven't even used them. Opened them up, was disappointed n put them back
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xXJay_RXx said:
I'll sell you one. I got the Nocs NS200 but I accidentally got the one button (with mic) version instead of the 3 button that I wanted. Haven't even used them. Opened them up, was disappointed n put them back
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thanx manm but I need behind or above the ear
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Any wired headset with 3.5mm connector will work with Galaxy S III
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You have no idea how WRONG you are.
Galaxy S 3 is one the most picky phones I've ever owned, it's almost as bad as the worst phone ever - LG Nitro HD.
Just go to your local RadioShack and ask them to test all available headsets, see how many of them will be 100% working (sound, mic, music and phone calls). I'll bet at least half of them will only work for music, some will work for phone calls only when plugged in AFTER call was established. Not to mention remote buttons...(I've done just that with 5 headsets they had that could be re-packaged, only one worked)
This is ridiculous. I've already contacted Samsung regarding this, they politely asked me to piss off. The SkullCandy headphone manufacturer also said "bad luck, come again".
Now using piece of sh.t off brand headset, which works perfectly, but with terrible sound.
SkullCandy FIX don't work, however "fake" SkullCandy FIX (black and white with only one button) work fine, but they lasted 1 week before wire broke.
Wired Headset with Microphone
You may want to try Klipsch s4A. It is especially made for Android phones.
im using urbanears bagis.. been using it during the s2 days and now on the s3.. mic works excellently and the earplugs produce excellent sound quality as well..
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I'm using Skullcandy's FMJ on my S3. It has a one button mic and I am able to answer calls and end calls with it. Also when not used for calls, pressing it once will play the music player, pressing it twice would play the next song but I can't go back to the previous song though. Pretty much good for me already.
Erm, yeah same here.... Had the basic skull candy ink set, and now a similar set. Both have worked perfectly..... Cheap too at a tenner a pair.....
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sp3llv3xit said:
You may want to try Klipsch s4A. It is especially made for Android phones.
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I have them and they are excellent headphones.
Highly recommended
inningsdefeat500 said:
I don't want wireless or bluetooth I need a wired headset with mic coming out. Can someone suggest one or would it work with 3.5mm plug?
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I am using the Sony XBA-2VP at the moment (right in the middle of Sony's line of balanced armature IEMs). The mike works well on calls as well as with Power Amp.
Wish Sony would release the XBA-3 or XBA-4 for Android (as they have for the iPhone)....
Kind regards
So far everyone who say this and that works fine, refer only to these in-ear type headsets. What about normal buds type, that don't go inside the ear?

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