Hello,
I want to buy a stylus, but all I see is those big tip styluses, and I want some smaller tip stylus.
I know that some stylus won't work with the i9300, like the S-Pen of the note2.
So I've found some really small tip stylus pens but they are for the nintendo DS ..
How can I tell if they will work for the i9300, or they are using the technology the note2 uses so it won't work?
Thanks
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Check out the Samsung C-Pen. That's the smallest tipped stylus you're going to find that works on the S3.
The Nintendo DS has a resistive touchscreen, so its pen doesn't have ANY technology... It's just a piece of plastic.
Since our touchscreens are capacitive it isn't possible to get styli that small without an extra digitizer layer like the Note 2 has. C-Pen is as small as it gets for us.
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Check out the Samsung C-Pen. That's the smallest tipped stylus you're going to find that works on the S3.
The Nintendo DS has a resistive touchscreen, so its pen doesn't have ANY technology... It's just a piece of plastic.
Since our touchscreens are capacitive it isn't possible to get styli that small without an extra digitizer layer like the Note 2 has. C-Pen is as small as it gets for us.
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Can you explain a little bit more please? do you mean that the C-pen has more than just the tip? it has something inside it like the S-Pen, or something just on the tip?
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Can you explain a little bit more please? do you mean that the C-pen has more than just the tip? it has something inside it like the S-Pen, or something just on the tip?
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Nah its just a smaller-than-normal rubber tip that only works well with Samsung's devices. I think it has to do with how their capacitive digitizers are set up... More dense than others perhaps? I've heard reports of people trying to use the c-pen on other non-galaxy s3/4 devices but they have to push down really hard to get it to work.
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http://adonit.net/jot/
I have one of their styluses and they work perfectly on my s3
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Nah its just a smaller-than-normal rubber tip that only works well with Samsung's devices. I think it has to do with how their capacitive digitizers are set up... More dense than others perhaps? I've heard reports of people trying to use the c-pen on other non-galaxy s3/4 devices but they have to push down really hard to get it to work.
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So how can I tell if other pens will work? I mentioned those NDS pens, do you think they can work? or they use the Note 2 technology?
for example this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-DSi-Retractable-Metallic-Touch-Pen-Set-/151104612634?pt=US_Video_Game_Styluses&hash=item232e89691a
tqgia2 said:
http://adonit.net/jot/
I have one of their styluses and they work perfectly on my s3
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Thanks for showing me these,
but maybe you can tell , how am I supposed to know whether a stylus is going to work on an i9300? I know for example that the s-pen won't work because it has some wacom technology or something, but how about the NDS stylus pens? will they work? or they use the Note2 technology?
Someone said that if the tips are too small they wont work, but you just showed some very tiny tip stylus pens that do work.
verynoob said:
So how can I tell if other pens will work? I mentioned those NDS pens, do you think they can work? or they use the Note 2 technology?
for example this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-DSi-Retractable-Metallic-Touch-Pen-Set-/151104612634?pt=US_Video_Game_Styluses&hash=item232e89691a
Thanks for showing me these,
but maybe you can tell , how am I supposed to know whether a stylus is going to work on an i9300? I know for example that the s-pen won't work because it has some wacom technology or something, but how about the NDS stylus pens? will they work? or they use the Note2 technology?
Someone said that if the tips are too small they wont work, but you just showed some very tiny tip stylus pens that do work.
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NDS styluses will not work as they rely on pressure. The stylus that i just showed you does work on the i9300. I personally have one and use it myself
A picture of the stylus
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Alright I'll try to explain the differences in touchscreens:
1. Resistive touchscreens. These rely solely on pressure, thus anything can work on them... Even cheap plastic like on the Nintendo DS systems. The downfall of these types of screens are that they're not ideal to use with your fingers since light touches are usually not recognized, so a stylus is necessary.
2. Capacitive touchscreens. These rely on completing an electrical circuit between the digitizer and the object touching them. Turns out our fingers are perfect for this, but small plastic styli like the DS stylus cannot complete the circuit and are unusable on these touchscreens. Special capacitive styluses (these are the ones that will work on your i9300) use material that can complete the circuit, like rubber/soft plastic or foam. The downside to this screen technology is that you can't use precise styli. The jot stylus mentioned earlier is a innovative approach to fix this but it's rather restrictive on how you can place the stylus to the screen... Watch videos and you'll see what I mean.
3. Active pen digitizers were specifically made for digital artists to begin with to offer a high level of precision when using a stylus on a tablet. They were really only used on PCs and Macs. However recently Samsung did something brilliant and combined an active pen digitizer by wacom (the best in the business) and a capacitive touchscreen to get the best of both worlds. I'm referring to the Note devices and the S Pen.
In short, you want a capacitive stylus. The C-pen is a capacitive stylus that's smaller than all others but only functions on the galaxy s3 or s4. The Jot stylus is also a capacitive stylus that has high precision but the point is a circular transparent disc... So its kinda odd at first.
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Div033 said:
Alright I'll try to explain the differences in touchscreens:
1. Resistive touchscreens. These rely solely on pressure, thus anything can work on them... Even cheap plastic like on the Nintendo DS systems. The downfall of these types of screens are that they're not ideal to use with your fingers since light touches are usually not recognized, so a stylus is necessary.
2. Capacitive touchscreens. These rely on completing an electrical circuit between the digitizer and the object touching them. Turns out our fingers are perfect for this, but small plastic styli like the DS stylus cannot complete the circuit and are unusable on these touchscreens. Special capacitive styluses (these are the ones that will work on your i9300) use material that can complete the circuit, like rubber/soft plastic or foam. The downside to this screen technology is that you can't use precise styli. The jot stylus mentioned earlier is a innovative approach to fix this but it's rather restrictive on how you can place the stylus to the screen... Watch videos and you'll see what I mean.
3. Active pen digitizers were specifically made for digital artists to begin with to offer a high level of precision when using a stylus on a tablet. They were really only used on PCs and Macs. However recently Samsung did something brilliant and combined an active pen digitizer by wacom (the best in the business) and a capacitive touchscreen to get the best of both worlds. I'm referring to the Note devices and the S Pen.
In short, you want a capacitive stylus. The C-pen is a capacitive stylus that's smaller than all others but only functions on the galaxy s3 or s4. The Jot stylus is also a capacitive stylus that has high precision but the point is a circular transparent disc... So its kinda odd at first.
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Thank you so much , now I understand !
i bought in winter cheap stylus from ebay. Material from which it made is very cheap, but stylus worked fine in winter with gloves and now too.
verynoob said:
Hello,
I want to buy a stylus, but all I see is those big tip styluses, and I want some smaller tip stylus.
I know that some stylus won't work with the i9300, like the S-Pen of the note2.
So I've found some really small tip stylus pens but they are for the nintendo DS ..
How can I tell if they will work for the i9300, or they are using the technology the note2 uses so it won't work?
Thanks
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You could just make one yourself
Fullmetalalchemist said:
You could just make one yourself
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How?
tqgia2 said:
http://adonit.net/jot/
I have one of their styluses and they work perfectly on my s3
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+1 Good stylus indeed. But you have to do some modification before use so as to prevent skipping if you are writing. But cautious to have a screen protector as it might scratch the screen when using.
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How?
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heres what you need:
Pen
cue tip
foil
cut the tip of the que tip and insert it in the pen where the hole is.
use a strip of foil and make it slightly touch the cue tip and wrap it around the pen
when using it make sure that you touchh the foil
http://cnettv.cnet.com/how-make-stylus/9742-1_53-50126553.html
Fullmetalalchemist said:
heres what you need:
Pen
cue tip
foil
cut the tip of the que tip and insert it in the pen where the hole is.
use a strip of foil and make it slightly touch the cue tip and wrap it around the pen
when using it make sure that you touchh the foil
http://cnettv.cnet.com/how-make-stylus/9742-1_53-50126553.html
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Nice one although you always need to get the tip wet . .! maybe there is some other material that doesn't need to get wet and can be used as tip? but thanks
If u have earbud just wet it a little now dry a little den use it
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I just tried the samsung pen and it is not as good as expected. Its not crisp and quick. Writing with my finger is better. So the pen goes back to the maker.
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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Removing my screen protector helped a bit but I'm still not impressed either.
How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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Lennyuk said:
How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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vasp3690 said:
True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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My thoughts exactly!
I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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Alex Charles said:
I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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do you remember which one was that?
i thought id find the c-pen and memo usefull if i could write in a similar fashion as when taking notes on a paper. (well as close as it can get)
This is just Samsung cashing in on the popularity of S-Pen and charging 40 times the price of some capacitive pens with no better results.
You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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Well, it is has a 3mm tip according to the specs. This is much smaller than a capacitive stylus.
I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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No. No buttons on it
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C pen a big failure
The C-pen is a complete failure, its really bad, i expected it to be better than galaxy note as there is a lotta hype created for samsung galaxy s3. I was completely taken aback with its sad precision and smoothness.The way Samsung is going i thought they must have definitely improved the feel of thw cpen but it was not. this is a set back.
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I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.
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The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.
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It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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I just don't like the implication through omission of details Samsung are making that this is like the S Pen, I mean I just think they want to trick people to believing this can do the same job as S Pen because obviously it's got a similar name and they making no effort to explain it.
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It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.
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Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.
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I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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I can see why they'd sell it as an accessory but I would hope it actually worked properly. Once the word is out that its crap, noone will get it.
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I tried this C-pen as well and it's a PoS.
Ironically, I've just taken delivery of a charging stand that comes with a free pen (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0080R6MW0/ref=oh_details_o03_s01_i00) and that one works better than the C-pen. (And it's an ink pen too!)
Couldn't make it up.
I'm still waiting to get my Note 8.0, but I was wondering which pen would be a good purchase for the most natural drawing experience?
Is there any pen that is equal to or better than the S Pen? My only real concern is that it looks a bit thin and uncomfortable to hold.
I know this can be somewhat remedied but placing the S Pen inside the housing of a click eraser... But that seems kinda clunky to me. - What do you do if you need to use the side button?
Idealy I would want a pen that is comfortable to hold, has two side buttons just like the Cintiq / Intuos Pens, has an eraser, and can be calibrated to be *at least* as accurate and sensitive as the S Pen.
I've heard that the Bamboo Feel Pen (that was designed for the Note 10.1) doesn't work so well on the Note 8.0... Is this true? Anyone here given it a try?
Anyways, so what are my options?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Perhaps this thread would be placed in Accessories - Mods?
I have the 8pi pen, its thicker and has an eraser end. I found it is off by 5 pixels, but I only use it in Lecture Notes and that app is able to correct for it. But I wanted a better, heavier more real pen feeling pen, so I ordered the Bamboo Feel. Based on the Wacom email it could take 3 weeks for me to receive it though! Whenever I get it, I will post a short comparison.
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Thanks for the response!
An offset is something I definitely don't want in a pen. I'll probably wait on your review on the Bamboo Feel... Or if anyone else can confirm if it has an offset or not. I really like the look of it. I have a 'feel'ing it will be a really nice pen.
Sorry for the intromission in this theead... but have the same problem.
Want any suggest on a pen for my device. A capacitive pen, but not the classic with large point.
I haven't note. To me too expensive. Have a gt-i9300, a galaxy tab 7 and a zte v11a.
Someone can suggest ? Thanks a lot!
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Our company used to use a bunch of old HP Elitebook convertible tablets (2510/2730), I discovered the styluses work with the Note devices and I've been using these for my Note 2 and Note 8.
The styluses are similar to these: http://www.amazon.com/HP-digital-pe...8&qid=1367096073&sr=8-2&keywords=2710p+stylus
This is the cheapest I've found (can go for up to $60), but I like the thicker pen for more control.
The nice thing is the back end of the pen works like an eraser in some apps.
The spen that comes with it is the best ive used thus far. I have the one with the eraser and the plastic nibs and horrible offset have me using the included spen.
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The spen that comes with it is the best ive used thus far. I have the one with the eraser and the plastic nibs and horrible offset have me using the included spen.
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This is disapointing to hear. I bought the larger spen before I bought the tablet as I wanted something that would feel better in my hands for drawing. I'm guessing there is no way to correct for this offset unless the specific app you are using has that functionality.
From what I understand, any sylus that is compatible with wacom tablets, should be compatible with the note series. What I dont know if there will be an offset on these as well though. I really hope not or that they can be re calibrated. I intend on using the attached spen and a seperate stylus on my tablet and id like them both to be correctly calibrated.
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rEVOLVE said:
Our company used to use a bunch of old HP Elitebook convertible tablets (2510/2730), I discovered the styluses work with the Note devices and I've been using these for my Note 2 and Note 8.
The styluses are similar to these: http://www.amazon.com/HP-digital-pe...8&qid=1367096073&sr=8-2&keywords=2710p+stylus
This is the cheapest I've found (can go for up to $60), but I like the thicker pen for more control.
The nice thing is the back end of the pen works like an eraser in some apps.
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Thanks for this info. As I said in the reply above, any stylus compatible with wacom digitizers should be compatible with the note. What worries me is that there may be an offset with other styluses on these tablets (as seems to be the case with the 8pi pen). If thats the case, then the benefit of the technology is greatly diminished for drawing purposes.
The styluses seen for note and note 2 seems too much like the stylus of my old bamboo graphic tab... am i wrong?
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I am using the Samsung Bluetooth S-Pen.
http://www.amazon.com/Original-HM5100-Bluetooth-Adapter-Samsung/dp/B00B59OKTW
It is not a difference in terms of functionality. But feels much better due to its bigger size and weight. And it includes tips that are somehow coated with rubber which makes writing on screen a little more comfortable.
I got my Wacom Bamboo Stylus.
I haven't used it enough to be a good judge of offset, except that it definitely has more of an offset than the 8pi, and Lecture Notes can correct for it in landscape but I haven't been able to correct it in portrait mode yet (still trying to figure out the settings). If you need to use it in apps that do not allow you to adjust the offset, you can either use it vertically to the tablet (90 degree angle) with no offset, or shorten the nib. It appears the offset in any of these pens is related to both how much of an angle you write with, and how long the nib is sticking out of the pen.
I like the added thickness of the Bamboo Feel. It makes it feel like a real pen. It also feels heavier than the 8pi, but all the weight seems to be in the cap, making it feel top heavy when writing, so I'm undecided whether the weight is a plus or not.
It does not have an eraser end like the 8pi. This doesn't bother me since I disliked using it in the 8pi. It felt a lot more awkward and inaccurate to use than using the other button to switch between pen and eraser.
Both pens have a clip. The 8pi has a plastic clip vs the Bamboo Feel has a metal clip. I like the Bamboo Feel's metal clip much much better. The clip on the 8pi looks so fragile I'm afraid to use it. However the clip on the Bamboo Feel is study yet flexible enough that I can clip it to the side of the fake leather Moko cover that I'm using (till the Samsung and Poetic covers arrive). It is possible to keep it in the pen loop on my cover, but it only barely fits, so it's much more convenient to clip it to the side of the cover. I think this will allow me to use it with the thinner covers without a pen loop, so this pen will become the one I will be using daily.
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I am using the Samsung Bluetooth S-Pen.
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can u fit this in original pocket for s-pen? Or you have to carry this separately?
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can u fit this in original pocket for s-pen? Or you have to carry this separately?
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No, the bluetooth pen is much bigger. More like a real pen. But a big one.
I was wondering if could use a preassure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?
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I was wondering if could use a pressure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?
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Not quite sure what you mean by a "pressure pen", but the Nexus 7 screen is capacitance, not pressure. If you touch it with a hard, non-conductive object, nothing will happen. The stylus type pens work because they can conduct your fingers to the surface of the tablet (simplified explanation, don't flame me!). You can also try to operate the tablet with gloves on to see that the "contact" of your fingers is necessary to get the touchscreen to operate.
What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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No, the S-Pen is unique and a Samsung only accessory. Too bad, it looks useful but I rather stick with Nexus.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6893/samsung-galaxy-note-80-review/4
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What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.
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The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.
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Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.
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Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.
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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger
i hve no idea
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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger
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You can sort of guess the amount of pressure being applied by a finger based on the size of the touch (if you lightly touch it's small, if you press hard it's bigger as your finger squashes against the screen). So it is, sort of, touch sensitive, but if you used a stylus with a non-soft end it won't detect an increase in pressure.
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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by pressuring more it becomes bigger
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Pressure sensitivity works beautifully in Photoshop Touch with a Wacom stylus (or S-Pen) on my Note 10.1.
Conversely, finger (or capacitive stylus) pressure in PS Touch on my N7 makes no difference. Not even a little bit. As already posted by others, the N7 just doesn't have the technology to do what you're asking.
Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.
Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....
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Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....
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Have you read the rest of the thread? No, the S-Pen will not work. It's not just about the pen. Devices that use digitizer pens have an extra layer on the screen that allows the pens to do their magic. That layer is simply non-existent on the nexus 7.
This is why the note 8 costs more....
I've got a Wacom bamboo pocket and have to say that using my fingers works much better. Are all stylus ' like that or are there better ones?
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I have a few different rubber tipped stylists and they do not work half as good as the micro fiber mesh tipped ones do.
Where can I get those?
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Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.
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It's not necessarily the android device that needs the hardware - in Wacom tablets (as in bamboo, intuos etc., not Android tablets) the pressure sensitivity comes from the pen itself, not the tablet surface. While there's nothing on the market at the moment (?) that doesn't mean there never can be for the likes of the N7, where the pen would have the pressure sensitive hardware and then the tablet would just require the necessary hardware.
Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.
lanwarrior said:
Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.
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These look great, but the lack of Android support right out of the gate really has me sour on Evernote. I just don't think there is any excuse for releasing something like this as ios only. Unless they are purposely trying to alienate Android users. Not that I'm saying that's what they are doing, but it was a pretty stupid business decision regardless.
I am hoping it will eventually be usable on Android, but I haven't seen a single mention of future Android support.
Boo to you, Evernote.
I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
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I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
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Doesn't seem that your s-pen is faulty.
The Moving tip is part of Wacom tech and is what detects taps/clicks as well as pressure.
, however a mm or 2 2 sideways is a bit too much and should not happen.
My other Wacom pen for regular pc tablet (intuos) also dips in and out a bit, so that's normal.
Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
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Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
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I don't think you can use other manufacturer pens with note 8. Even Only few of the pens by wacom are compatible.
There are wacom pens with replaceable tips, but they more or less give a different surface feel as opposed to a rigid tip itself.
Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
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Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
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as far as i am aware, up to samsung Galaxy Note 3.0 all s-pen enabled devices have same underlying technology by wacom, so it's the same manufacturer (samsung/wacom).
however some pens might work across the board on a lot of devices and some might not due to device specific calibrations.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/overlays/articles/2013/1027-samsung-galaxy-note
I see. Thanks for additional info.
Just got the Galaxy Tab S2 wifi version. Anyone using a stylus? Its hard to look for one that works and i want those pointy ones and not the rubber button thick tip.
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Just got the Galaxy Tab S2 wifi version. Anyone using a stylus? Its hard to look for one that works and i want those pointy ones and not the rubber button thick tip.
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I love using a stylus with my S2. I think I actually do so more than I used the S-pen on my previous Note devices. I am actually just using one of the type that you described because I found a few lying around. I wouldn't mind upgrading to a more... stylish stylus (heh) but the kind I'm using does work quite well. Let me know if you find a nice one that you like :good:
Personally I just use a cheap and cheerful stylus from the pound shop. Maybe one of the soft rubber ones that you don't want (it's dome-ended and semi-flexible, not pointed) but it works well enough and if it breaks or dents (the body is thin aluminium) then just replace it with a new one. My S2 case has a pen/stylus loop to store it, and for me it's fine.
My kids also use styluses (stylii?) on their tablets (Hudl's) - they have solid novelty ones that look like pencils but again work fine (although are a bit chunky and small for my adult hands).
So after checking out amazon and some local stores, I still have not found the best pointy stylus that I want but one that I can compromise with and some others.
The Adonit Jot Pro really works, but just worried about the plastic that it will eventually scratch enough of the screen.
The cross dual stylus is the one I compromised based on that it has a pen and the slim and firm rubber of the stylus. Can be slippery to use as a pen though.
Bamboo's smart stylus pen, though advertised to work for samsung galaxy devices does not work. I tried it at a local bestbuy.
But you could get the one from Bamboo with carbon fiber tip (not pointy) and that one works.
Maybe buying this in the future to just try Lynktec Apex Fine Point Stylus. It is advertised to work with galaxy tab s2 in the shopandroid website.
Hopefully you guys can find better than I do.
does this tablet have a pressure sensitive digitizer? someone on Reddit said it did...
Hey guys, I just got a pack of styli that I ordered from Amazon this AM and I'm finding them to be pretty nice in addition to a killer deal. I was doing some research on the topic and found a couple that looked good in a Lifehacker article, but checking out the reviews lots of people had some kind of beef with their recs and they were about $15 each. Browsing around Amazon lead me to these: http://www.amazon.com/Bargains-0-18...49936069&sr=1-2&keywords=bargain+depot+stylus which looked like they were worth a shot, so I grabbed a 4-pack for $9, because math.
So they just showed up about an hour ago, and I would definitely recommend them. The stylus itself has a bit of weight to it, so it feels like using a decent pen, and the tip feels like it's just the right size. In addition to a bag of extra tips that you can switch out if necessary, each has a cap also which I thought was a nice touch. So I'm not sure if this is what everyone's looking for, but if you want a comfortable/precise stylus you really can't go wrong here.
Does anyone have any stylus-centric apps that they frequently use? The S2 is my first non-Note device in a while, so I'm used to doing things with an S-pen that a stylus isn't capable of. I just DLed Google Handwriting Input and Squid (nice for marking up PDFs). I use mine just for swiping around a lot because I have a tablet stand that's a little far from my chair, but I'd interested in hearing about any other apps :good:
http://dot-tec.com/
I use the Cross Samsung stylus/pen -- basically it is an C pen (not S pen) with my 8" S2 for handwriting on the screen - best handwriting programs for me FiiNote and LectureNotes and OneNote
Samsung Universal 2-In-1 Cross Ballpoint Pen and Touchscreen Stylus for Capacitive Device - Silver
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http://dot-tec.com/
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Says that it doesn't work with screen protector.
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Says that it doesn't work with screen protector.
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I have a glass screen protector And the pen is OK for me. ..10/10
Thanks for the info.
I'm spoiled since I've used the Note 8 and the GNote 3
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Browsing around Amazon lead me to these: http://www.amazon.com/Bargains-0-18...49936069&sr=1-2&keywords=bargain+depot+stylus which looked like they were worth a shot, so I grabbed a 4-pack for $9, because math.
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That's the model I chose. Works well, not too chunky at the tip, and priced right.
Did u end up getting lynteck fine point.
OK, so how do you guys carry the stylus on your tablet? I'm using the Samsung book case because I love the thinness and the way the flaps work. I bought the Large Pen Loop by Arune on Amazon and just don't like the way the stylus just flops around when it's in the loop. I'm thinking of some type of leather or plastic sleeve that can stick on the case and the stylus slides into it.
I thought that a stylus don't work on galaxy's tab s2 9.7 lte alias sm-t 815... yet I See that a metallic thing work as a pen... with a pencil it don't work... this only could work with Wacom displays and a magnetic overflow...I'm confused. ..
im using the 'amazon basic' stylus and it works great with my s2 8.0...
But this is not this what I mean... If u heave headphones so u should try to use the tap with the jack plug as a pen so the spen also should work... I try it tomorrow
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Hey guys, I just got a pack of styli that I ordered from Amazon this AM (...) (here was a link that I can't repost because I'm a newbie ) which looked like they were worth a shot, so I grabbed a 4-pack for $9, because math.
So they just showed up about an hour ago, and I would definitely recommend them. The stylus itself has a bit of weight to it, so it feels like using a decent pen, and the tip feels like it's just the right size. In addition to a bag of extra tips that you can switch out if necessary, each has a cap also which I thought was a nice touch. So I'm not sure if this is what everyone's looking for, but if you want a comfortable/precise stylus you really can't go wrong here.
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Thanks for the info Do your stylii deal with pressure sensitivity ? I plan on buying a Galaxy Tab S2 and use Medibang (drawing app) so I really need a stylus that recognizes pressure changes.
(sorry if my english was bad btw ^^)
is there a stylus bluetooth and an app with palm reject on s2 t815?
sorry for my bad english
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Just got the Galaxy Tab S2 wifi version. Anyone using a stylus? Its hard to look for one that works and i want those pointy ones and not the rubber button thick tip.
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You are never going to find a stylus for the Tab that will even approach the tip of the S Pen because the S Pen has nothing to do with the TouchScreen. The S Pen on the Note interacts with an electromagnetic screen placed behind the LCD screen in the Note. Tabs don't have that screen. Instead a stylus for a Tab depends on replacing the "capictance" of your finger with that of the stylus's rubber tip. Can't do that with a tiny tip.
However, if you read further down in this thread, you will find a stylus that does have a much smaller tip than normal. The only problem with them is that the tips must be replace every so often because their special capacitance quality "wears out" with use. Thus the replaceable tips that come with the stylus.
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is there a stylus bluetooth and an app with palm reject on s2 t815?
sorry for my bad english
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No, because the bluetooth receiver in the Tab would have no way to determine the exact position of the external bluetooth pen.