Hi folks, I've never tried editing anything in WindowsApps under Windows RT 8.0 but now when I use version 8.1 I feel like playing with modern apps. From what I read in Windows 8 it was(is?) possible to fully access it by taking ownership of that folder. I did the same, changed owner from trustedinstaller to my user account and while under permissions it looks like my user has full access to all files I still can't edit anything, only read, execute and delete, no write. Is it possible to edit anything in WindowsApps under RT 8.1 or was it blocked since RT 8.0 or in both Windows RT and 8 and I just misread something?
Taking ownership allows you to edit the permissions. Editing the permissions enables adding the Write (or Full Control) permissions.
GoodDayToDie said:
Taking ownership allows you to edit the permissions. Editing the permissions enables adding the Write (or Full Control) permissions.
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"under permissions it looks like my user has full access" - I've enabled full contol already and still I can't write anything, that's why I made this thread, to ask if it's possible at all.
Did you enable it for subfolders, etc.? Can you create a new folder directly under WindowsApps? Have you applied the permissions change yet?
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Did you enable it for subfolders, etc.? Can you create a new folder directly under WindowsApps? Have you applied the permissions change yet?
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Yep, I've enabled it for subfolders, gave full access to all users, unticked read only flags, changed owner... i've tried everything I could. And yes, I can create a new folder directly in windowsapps but not in applications subfolders where I can't perform any modifications except deleting.
I'm not currently using RT 8.1, but something is off, here. You're sure you have privileges on the subfolders (individual app folders), not just the WindowsApps folder? Each one has their own permissions.
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I'm not currently using RT 8.1, but something is off, here. You're sure you have privileges on the subfolders (individual app folders), not just the WindowsApps folder? Each one has their own permissions.
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Yes, I'm 100% sure that I have full control set for all subfolders. Strange thing is that I tried some random files in random app folders and some files are writeable and some are not, even in one folder. I think that MS did it on purpose to prevent users from modifying/cracking apps. All I wanted to do was to edit one xml file in Asphalt 7 folder to enable some graphical enhancements that are disabled for Windows RT and are stored in this xml as presets but no matter what I do I can't edit this file and believe me, I tried everything.
There are things I'm sure you could do - for example, opening a file or folder with FILE_FLAG_BACKUP_SEMANTICS lets you completely bypass ACLs, assuming you have the SE_BACKUP permissions (Administrators and other members of the "Backup Operators" security group).
One other possibility, that in fact sounds quite likely from your description: are you sure that the apps aren't *running* in the background? 8.1 makes apps suspend, not close, by default even if you do the swipe-to-bottom-of-screen gesture. Obviously, if the files are locked, you won't be able to edit them. That should give you a different error, but you never actually said what error you're getting.
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There are things I'm sure you could do - for example, opening a file or folder with FILE_FLAG_BACKUP_SEMANTICS lets you completely bypass ACLs, assuming you have the SE_BACKUP permissions (Administrators and other members of the "Backup Operators" security group).
One other possibility, that in fact sounds quite likely from your description: are you sure that the apps aren't *running* in the background? 8.1 makes apps suspend, not close, by default even if you do the swipe-to-bottom-of-screen gesture. Obviously, if the files are locked, you won't be able to edit them. That should give you a different error, but you never actually said what error you're getting.
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I know that apps are tombstoned in 8.1 so you can fast resume like in WP and to fully close you need to swipe to bottom and hold unless tile flips but that's not the case as I tried that on fully closed apps. And the error is just typical "you need permission to perform this action". It looks like things are locked and impossible to access without some special trickery. So that's why in modern apps many crucial files like licenses or in-app purchase settings are stored in human readable files like xml, if there is no way to edit it, why encrypt? Either article that stated that you can gain full access to windowsapps wasn't exactly accurate or something has changed in 8.1, I don't have 8.0 so can't check.
I'm running into this issue as well in 8.1, and I had no issues in 8.0.
Anyone made progress? I have tried right after a reboot, without opening any apps (this is a store app), so the app shouldn't be running or in use.
I can confirm this. Even with full permissions I get "More permissions are needed to perform this action" when I try to create a new file. I can delete (move to trash) files just fine though, can't edit anything. Will investigate further later.
P.S. C:\Program Files>icacls windowsapps /t /c /q /reset seems to fix issues if your metro apps stop starting ?
This worked with windows 8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069048
Inviato dal mio GT-N7100 con Tapatalk 2
jessenic said:
I can confirm this. Even with full permissions I get "More permissions are needed to perform this action" when I try to create a new file. I can delete (move to trash) files just fine though, can't edit anything. Will investigate further later.
P.S. C:\Program Files>icacls windowsapps /t /c /q /reset seems to fix issues if your metro apps stop starting ��
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I'm running into the exact same problem, in Windows 8 I could write and edit files in the Windowsapps folder without any hassle (obviously with the correct permissions set), in Windows 8.1 this is not possible. Guess Microsoft toughened up the protection in this particular folder after the WSService Tokens Extractor was being used for turning trial apps into full versions
The apps are protected but if you make an new folder and move the files and rename you have full control hover for the apps to run need the unknown account which execute the program
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Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
Maybe Resco Explorer or Total Commander CE will help.
if it's built in the rom, you might be unable to delete that file.
Please be more specific: which file do you wish to delete?
Maybe you'd have to recook the ROM without that file.
Regards,
EquinoXe
Things built into the rom are "READ ONLY MEMORY" therefore cannot be deleted. if the file is only marked as system and readonly though you can change its atributes using total commander. just long click on item to bring up menu and go to properties. there you need to uncheck everything and delete
I had downloaded Total Commander and installed it, the checked file attributes are 'read only' and 'in rom'; so I guess the file shall be consider undeleteable.
Now I had to learn how to recook, any good guide how can I recook the ROM that I have?
similar problem
I downloaded some software and it came up as being faulty software. The file was a zip folder titled : res_ppc-custom.icons
I tried through my windows mobile device center to uninstall it, but it was never actually installed completely in the first place.
I then tried to delete the file a few times. Once directly from my pda, once through the device center and again through my pc windows explorer. All three attempts were unsuccessful.
How can I get rid of this thing?
Thanks in advance
perhaps you may want to check if the file being accessed by other software, easiest way is to soft reset and try to delete it.
That did the trick! Thanks so much
Move files to storage card
OK I want to move some files (not ROM) in Windows and keep getting error. For example Opera.exe is not marked as anything in properties yet I can't seem to delete the file. I did copy it to my storage card without any issue but can't delete the original from Windows directory. Any suggestions since Total Commander won't delete it. Will edit registry to find it on the Storage Card.
Deleting files in Windows folder
mynullvoid said:
Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
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I have the same problem - I have colpilot.wm6ppc.cab in my Windows directory. It's 12.6mb, I don't want it, and it's taking up a lot of storage space. My phone is a T-Mobile MDA and it obviously came with CoPilot as an option, but I think it's really unfair that the cab is right there in the Windows dir and I can't get rid of it....
Any help gratefully received....
Cheers,
Ed.
The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
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The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
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I think the issue is not on the files in ROM.
I have the same problem. I've copied a file under Windows folder and after that I'm unable to delete it.
Strangely I'm able to rename it, which should mean that file is not in use, however deletion is not possible.
I've used TotalCommander, the built-in Explorer and also connected the phone via ActiveSync, but still nothing happens and access seems to be denied.
The exact message is "deletion error".
Any idea?
Thanks.
Cheers...
-nOra-
A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
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A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
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Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
djulen said:
Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
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Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
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Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
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Use Total Commander to modify the contents of the \Windows directory.
Yes, but you won't be able to delete a ROM file anyway.
In the \Windows folder, you commonly encounter three kinds of files :
- Pure ROM files (can't be deleted nor renamed nor moved, nor even copied, but can be overwritten, consuming internal storage memory space in the process to store the new copy, that will become used instead) ;
- Files put there by installation CABs or else (can be freely deleted, renamed or moved, provided they're not currently used by a running process) ;
- Files put on top of previously existing ROM files, wearing the same name (deleting, renaming or moving them will thus make the original ROM file undertneath to reappear with its original contents and attributes).
Once you've understood that, you'll be more aware of what's cooking there.
ROM files can't even be copied, but you can use ROMExtractor to copy them elsewhere, in case you want to study them, or use them in your own ROM (useful to get up-to date versions from another HTC device to cook your own ROM).
Since ROMExtractor is a very minimalistic tool (you have to type in all the files names with their path, same for the target copy, all one by one !) manually extracting hundreds (even thousands) of files is a very tedious taks, I made a MortScript to automate the process in order to extract all those DLLs, EXEs, MUIs, etc. files that can't be directly copied from a phone's ROM.
On the other hand, you absolutely can't delete a ROM file to make room. Overwriting it with a file wearing the same name will jut result in actually adding the new file, thus consuming even more room. The new file will just be used instead of the original one (so you can still update or personalize the ROM).
As a direct consequence, the only way to get rid of unwanted ROM files or permanently replacing them with up-to-date ones is to cook a ROM and flash it to the device to replace the old one.
That's way how operating systems can become better and better, and save space at the same time.
And no, Windows Mobile isn't dead : I'm not quite finished with fixing it until it's perfect, so it's not over yet. LOL
Has anyone whipped up a native filecopy app that can copy files to and from a Windows Phone 7 retail device to/from any directory?
TouchXplorer for HTC phones does something like this. My Webserver will let you copy some files on/off the phone, but there are limitations.
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Has anyone whipped up a native filecopy app that can copy files to and from a Windows Phone 7 retail device to/from any directory?
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Without using HTCs COM DLLs, and without hacking apart the security mechanisms, I don't think this will be possible.
Unsigned COM DLLs can't get full filesystem access (I'm fairly sure you can only access the \Windows dir). Using an idea like davuxs webserver, you could in theory get any file you can get read access to onto a desktop, but that still limits you to \Windows.
Either, the entire security mechanism needs to be altered to our needs (like the way you can patch all certificate checks out of WM6.5 with an alteration to the XIP) or someone needs to "accidentally" find access to the right certificate.
It was worth a shot. With so many threads discussing progress in gaining access to the file system I wasn't clear where the security boundaries were.
I'm on a Samsung Focus (i917) which is popular in the US and while FileBrowser.exe is accessible, its very limited in functionality.
Plus I'm not sure anyone has figured out yet how to copy files between the desktop and device over USB.
Ideally at soem point there would be a way to not only explore the entire file system but also be able to copy programs to the device and be able to execute and run/install those native apps.
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It was worth a shot. With so many threads discussing progress in gaining access to the file system I wasn't clear where the security boundaries were.
I'm on a Samsung Focus (i917) which is popular in the US and while FileBrowser.exe is accessible, its very limited in functionality.
Plus I'm not sure anyone has figured out yet how to copy files between the desktop and device over USB.
Ideally at soem point there would be a way to not only explore the entire file system but also be able to copy programs to the device and be able to execute and run/install those native apps.
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I think (I'm digging through it now) that the MS developer tools would let us do a file transfer over USB (I've got XAP deployment, but there's a function for that, but it uses some lower level things internally).
But that doesn't give on device file system access, and is using MS frameworks entirely.
Hello there,
just for your info - maybe it helps somebody:
after some days of trying i found the shortmessages (with tel-number etc.) and some other stuff in a file:
1. Explore your phone with Windows Phone Device Manager
2. goto \Application Data\
3. Add "\Microsoft" to the path (under the file-explorer logo)
4. goto Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore
5. Rename "store.vol" to something like "store.vol.txt" (it is mandatory to rename this file - without this step the file is in use by outlook)
6. extract it (drag n drop)
7. run perl script (#perl test.pl store.vol.txt)
8. See output
Maybe one of you could build a backup application or something like that!
Link to perl script:
http://uploaded.to/file/he26q0d2
Original source of script:
http://www.pocketpcjunkies.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/pocketpc-dev/21040/Reading-pim-vol-EDB-File-on-a-PC
Edit:
Don't know if you've seen it:
\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore\data
ALL emails and other messages + contact-pictures + signature (three sizes) (just edit the file extension to .html or .jpeg - hex edit helps to find what is right )
\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer
-> TabsStorage.bin: Opened tabs from internet explorer (where are the cookies?! )
\Applications\Data\82A23635-5BD9-DF11-A844-00237DE2DB9E\Data\IsolatedStore
ALL Facebook-Information (if app is installed), including messages, pictures, notifications etc. etc.
\Application Data\Location\Cache
Wifi & GSM Data when features is enabled in WP7-preferences (encrypted?! don't know..)
Much more to come...
greets
endeffekt
Thanks! Looks interesting, I might try that!
Hey just wondering but does syncing with outlook have the option to sync texts? Only reason I wonder is because you said that file was in use by outlook....
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Thanks! Looks interesting, I might try that!
Hey just wondering but does syncing with outlook have the option to sync texts? Only reason I wonder is because you said that file was in use by outlook....
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Hey,
i just THINK it's in use
If you look at this file without renaming it's at 0,00 KB and you can't extract it. Maybe the contacts-tile or something else is using it
Hi Endeffekt,
thank you for this great hint!
But one more question before I try. Is it possible, to rename the file after the procedure back to "store.vol" without losing the messages on the phone?
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Hi Endeffekt,
thank you for this great hint!
But one more question before I try. Is it possible, to rename the file after the procedure back to "store.vol" without losing the messages on the phone?
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WP7 creates a copy of this file (automatic), so no problemo sir
Great! Alle messages are there. But the script doesnt work for me.
Now we need a smart developer who can make a viewer for it.
Is there a way to copy the vol file back to the phone? Or is the file always locked? For restore reasons...
I think this is very interesting (possibility to backup/restore SMS), so probably we should keep it on the front page so the devs could notice it.
Has anybody tried to restore that store.vol into the device after a reset? I mean rename the current store.vol to any filename, then copy the backed up store.vol to the phone and restart.
I'd like to try but i need to get hold all my current sms!
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I think this is very interesting (possibility to backup/restore SMS), so probably we should keep it on the front page so the devs could notice it.
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i agree
thanks a lot Endeffekt for sharing such important information
i sent the file to my pc but still couldn't edit it,
if anyone know other way than perl script please share,
i'm trying to edit the file and insert old sms from my old phone
thanks
Gray.Fox said:
i agree
thanks a lot Endeffekt for sharing such important information
i sent the file to my pc but still couldn't edit it,
if anyone know other way than perl script please share,
i'm trying to edit the file and insert old sms from my old phone
thanks
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Hint: it's an EBD database (like other files too)
Don't know if you've seen it:
\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore\data
ALL emails and other messages + contact-pictures + signature (three sizes) (just edit the file extension to .html or .jpeg - hex edit helps to find what is right )
\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer
-> TabsStorage.bin: Opened tabs from internet explorer (where are the cookies?! )
\Applications\Data\82A23635-5BD9-DF11-A844-00237DE2DB9E\Data\IsolatedStore
ALL Facebook-Information (if app is installed), including messages, pictures, notifications etc. etc.
\Application Data\Location\Cache
Wifi & GSM Data when features is enabled in WP7-preferences (encrypted?! don't know..)
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Has anybody tried to restore that store.vol into the device after a reset? I mean rename the current store.vol to any filename, then copy the backed up store.vol to the phone and restart.
I'd like to try but i need to get hold all my current sms!
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I will try this today
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I will try this today
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How was it?
endeffekt said:
Hint: it's an EBD database (like other files too)
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thanks endeffekt for the hint i'll look into it thanks alot
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I will try this today
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i hope you or anyone can try and confirm i have only one device i can't risk it
also couldn't try it on my emulator i think i misconfigured something
if i find anything i will post here
SMS retreival on Windows phone 7 using device manager
Hey all.
I have an Samsung Omnia phone 7. Dev unlocked. Running 7.0.7004.0
Anyone any idea how to view the file in question? I need to download this file, and save the SMS entries to my PC.
When I use device manager, I cant see a folder called
\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore
I mean, when I copy and paste the above text into the path, its just beeps and doesnt show anything.
On the root under file explorer, I have
My Documents (which is empty)
Windows (lots of files in it)
-ActiveSync
-Application Data
--KeyStorage
-AppMgr
-ColdInit
-eventlog
and a few others
When I open the Application Data folder, I only have a 'Key Storage' (certainly no Microsoft folder, and I tried typing it incase it was hidden or something , but just a ping sound and no refresh of the file list)
and when I open Key Storage, I have no files.
Any help working out why I cant see these folders / store.vol file would be very much appreciated
Does Windows Phone Device Manager not support this functionality on the Omnia?
Thanks
this should be a sticky, and testers needed
Using the diagnosis code 5**6244*3
I was able to open the Apps Launcher and Shortcuts Menu and can confirm that the path \Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore exists on my Focus.
In that folder, I have:
temp
0
4
6
3
19
8
Each of these folders has a list of single alpha named folders (a, b, c, d, e, etc...)
Each of these alpha folders has a single .dat file
I haven't tried to extract those files to try to play with them. I don't know how I would with the Focus... But just confirming the path exists on my Focus and has the .dat files
thank you munkeyphyst, still waiting for endeffekt
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Thanx for your hard work... Any success???? i'm intrested in the extraction of sms in the form which can b read on computer. i tried as you said renamed and copied to computer but i can not read that in computer... is it encrypted ?? Any help in that is appreciated.......
I've checked out all the EDB recovery/readers on teh net and cannot open one of these "edb" files from the phone.
if anyone knows the architecture of the file, I can parse it and have a program ready quickly.
some talk about EDB
It appears that there is already a better functioning sidebar hack made by someone else. Please disregard the files attached to this post and use the contents of the link.
http://www.win2008r2workstation.com/win2008r2/sidebar
I will post a detailed guide when I get time. There are some limitations, but most stuff works. I will polish the system up a bit.
Quick guide:
Copy the sidebar files to c:\program files\windows sidebar
download the supporting files.
run the batch file as administrator
run the reg file
Feel free to mirror/repost/steal credit/do whatever you want.
If you don't mind, can you tell me how well it works for you?
I confirm this works quite fine
Win8 Enterprise.
EDIT: Got some problems displaying custom gadgets...
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/35505-Windows-Sidebar-Gadgets-for-Windows-8-RTM
Here is the solution
Jackos said:
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/35505-Windows-Sidebar-Gadgets-for-Windows-8-RTM
Here is the solution
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my windows do not allow me create a folder inside my program file
ov2rey said:
my windows do not allow me create a folder inside my program file
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The easiest way of gaining access would be disabling User Account Control. You can do this using the slide in User Account or by changing this registry key:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\policies\system\EnableLUA
Change the value to 0.
i can t create the folder windows sidebar
i moved it in program files but it disappears
Hello all
Forgive me for any ignorance for any part of this, kinda still learning the Android stuff.
Basically I got a Tab Pro 8.4 for Xmas, an like a lot of it, but really don't care for the huge Weather widget, or how it's designed. But I do want to stay with a Accuweather version.
My first learning of Android came from a Stratosphere II phone I have, an I kinda like that weather widget. Plus I think it would be a little smaller.
To mention, I rooted that device as it was pretty easy, (an way out of warranty), but I have yet to root the 8.4 as seems to be more complicated and I kinda almost don't want to unless I really have too as I really don't want to trip the Knox.
Anyway, so my goal here was to try the Strat's weather widget in the 8.4, so I went into the system folder of the Strat, got all the files that had to do with anything of the weather widget, copied them to my PC, put them in the doc's folder of the 8.4, and then tried to copy them to same system folder, which I was able to view with Root Explorer, but when I went to paste them in, it told me I couldn't as the device was not rooted.
So is there any way I can get these files into there?
Thanks for any help.
To write or modify with '/' or '/system' files you will need root, really anything outside of the /mnt/sdcard directory(s) are mostly read only or 'locked' with permissions to a certain user (each "app" is a separate user).
Anyways I don't see why you would need to put the file there anyways as you should be able to just install it as a normal "User" application regardless where it was installed on the other device, all you need is the .apk file from the other device then install it on the 8.4, you will first need to enable "unknown Sources" in Settings.
(First on device that has the app you want - look in "/system/app/" ," /system/priv-app/" - there should be some files with a ".apk" extension find the one for the weather app /widget you want to use, and copy it to your pc, then copy the file to the tab 8.4, click on it in a file manager such as root explorer or the one that came with the tablet, it should prompt you to enable Unknown Sources under settings , enable the option, then proceed to install it - you shouldn't need any other files besides the apk )
If it doesn't work then the apk could be coded to a certain device (as some Samsung apps are) or just too old to run on kitkat.
See my screenshots for some basic example (the apk file will probably be called something else on the other device)
Thanks so much otyg, you are always such a great help.
So just to reply a few things . . . yes, the files were in the system/apps folder from the original device. Second, when I first got the 8.4, I went through all the settings menus, an found that thing on "Unknown Sources" an clicked it, kinda remember that from something I learned with the smartphone, so knew right off to check that. Guess the only reason am mentioning, is to mention that I have been using a few Explorer apps, but none have promoted me for what you mentioned, an am guessing as it was already checked(?).
So at the moment I have the files sitting in a documents folder of the 8.4, but now to ask on those . . . when I went into the app folder of the org device, there were several files that had the accuweather in them.
First on this point, there were three that had the apk ext, an those were, AccuweatherDaemon.apk, AccuweatherWidget_Main.apk and, AccuweatherWidget.apk.
Then to mention too, each one had a corresponding worded file with a .odex ext.
So not knowing much, I copied all six.
So don't know if you could answer this, but do you have any idea of which I should install, or should I install all of them? An again just to remind, what I am looking for here is the Widget from my org device, but I do want it to work. Then one more question on this point, is there anyway to uninstall these if any cause some kind of issue?
Lastly an just to mention, as I posted, I don't know much about the Android system, so just didn't know that a .apk file is basically a install file. KInda thought they were application execution files, which I think they are(?) . . . but they can be app install files a well? Sorry to ask such a knob question as well as so many others, but is how I will learn.
Again, thanks so much for the help.
WBFAir said:
Thanks so much otyg, you are always such a great help.
So just to reply a few things . . . yes, the files were in the system/apps folder from the original device. Second, when I first got the 8.4, I went through all the settings menus, an found that thing on "Unknown Sources" an clicked it, kinda remember that from something I learned with the smartphone, so knew right off to check that. Guess the only reason am mentioning, is to mention that I have been using a few Explorer apps, but none have promoted me for what you mentioned, an am guessing as it was already checked(?).
So at the moment I have the files sitting in a documents folder of the 8.4, but now to ask on those . . . when I went into the app folder of the org device, there were several files that had the accuweather in them.
First on this point, there were three that had the apk ext, an those were, AccuweatherDaemon.apk, AccuweatherWidget_Main.apk and, AccuweatherWidget.apk.
Then to mention too, each one had a corresponding worded file with a .odex ext.
So not knowing much, I copied all six.
So don't know if you could answer this, but do you have any idea of which I should install, or should I install all of them? An again just to remind, what I am looking for here is the Widget from my org device, but I do want it to work. Then one more question on this point, is there anyway to uninstall these if any cause some kind of issue?
Lastly an just to mention, as I posted, I don't know much about the Android system, so just didn't know that a .apk file is basically a install file. KInda thought they were application execution files, which I think they are(?) . . . but they can be app install files a well? Sorry to ask such a knob question as well as so many others, but is how I will learn.
Again, thanks so much for the help.
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Apk files used for installing apps like an exe file on windows or a dmg on mac, when you install something from the play store it is delivered as an APK file but it just happens "behind the scenes" so to speak, you are just bypassing the play store and directly installing the app but it's the same process...
When you install a app this is what happens in most cases.
1. The APK(s) gets stored in /data/app/<applicationname.apk> (this will get removed on uninstall.)
2. it creates a unique directory under /data/data/<applicationname> (this will get removed on uninstall)
3. it can create a directory under /mnt/sdcard/Android/data/<applicationname> (these files usually get left behind on uninstall but since it's on the user storage the user can remove them, it usually contains settings or cache files)
You don't need the .odex files, these are encrypted and probably wont work on other devices, it's basically the apk optimized for the device so it starts faster.
Just install the 3 apk's, the widget probably needs the main program for support and the daemon service probably runs in the background for updates ..etc, since you are installing them as a normal user it won't do much harm and you can always remove them if they do cause an issue, Applications are self contained and when you remove them the corresponding data folders are removed too (on the device) so it is unlikely to do any lasting damage.
To remove them go to Settings -> General -> Application Manager -> Downloaded and remove the apps from there . (if you don't see them swipe right until you see All )
Thanks so much for the reply an the education otyg
Did just as you suggested, deleted the odex files an tapped on the apk's to install, an don't know for why, but while it seemed to go as normal, in the end, I got a message saying they did not install, for all three.
Replaced the odex's back an that didn't seem to make a dif.
Perhaps it didn't work as could not install as device is not rooted?
Just to mention, I did have something with my Strat II device back a few months ago, where I placed another version of a accuweather widget in the systems/app folder, an it did show up.
At any rate, was a good try an thanks again for all the info.
Perhaps if I can get this device rooted, I can try again by just putting the apps in the folder.