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Official Froyo for HTC Desire possibly in the beginning of August

Hi @ all
I know it wont be a 100% reliable news but I thought it would interest some of you.
A friend of mine ordered a HTC Desire at Sunrise (Swiss Operator). She was told that the delivery will be postponed to the beginning of August due to the fact that the device will be delivered with version 2.2 of Android aka Froyo.
That would mean that we could possibly get the official Froyo by the end of July for unbranded devices.
Hope the staff at Sunrise is reliable and the info is right!!!
We will know more in about one month.
Sorry if the news has already been posted before.
Sinerely,
Ascenca

Interesting

Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas

ohyeahar said:
Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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Thanks für your reply.
I am aware of the shortage of AMOLED displays and the recent PR statement of HTC. I dont pretend my info is right, only wanted to share what I heard. Nevertheless I think August could be possible. The PR guy said that all newer devices (Desire, Legend, etc.) will get Froyo by Christmas. The HTC Desire being their top end device at the moment in Europe I assume it will get the update first. And I am quite sure that they wont provide the update to all devices at the same time. So lets hope for it to be true .
Ascenca

ohyeahar said:
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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There's no timetable there at all - it just says that they'll be finished with Froyo updates before Xmas. Well, August is before Xmas, as is September, October, November and most of December!
What we do know is that HTC have gone on record to say that they are expecting the first updates to roll out in Q3, but we don't know which devices will get it first.
Regards,
Dave

http://phandroid.com/2010/07/06/htc-to-complete-android-2-2-roll-out-by-christmas/
Lets hope it's true and the Desire gets 2.2 in August before the other phones, but i must admit that 2.1 is great and i have no issues with it so am happy to wait whenever it comes out.

It takes time to port all of our applications over to Froyo and then make sure that it is running well on each of our devices. That’s not like a one week kind of project. We need to make sure that our applications are taking advantage of the Froyo features. To make sure that they’re all running properly on the OS now that it’s a new version. And then to make sure that it’s running on our hardware as well as we expect. I would believe that we would be done with our Froyo updates before Christmas.
This was an intervjue with Eric Lin HTC PR dude
Source http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/34139/htc-froyo-update-delays-explained

That's no good. I'm going on holidays at the beginning of August lol
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It seems alot of the replies in this thread don't take into account the fact that a HTC 2.2 test rom with sense has already been leaked to certain people and was mostly working. So HTC are pretty far along in development already.

Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca

Ascenca83 said:
I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca
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Yes thats probably the reason. But it might make people not buying the Desire also and go for another brand like Samsung Galaxy S or even the Iphone 4 =P
Oh well, Im glad we have the Devs who get froyo roms out =)

Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.

Man, hope this better be true.
Sorry to sound so retardly geeky but it's been such a deep sadness for not being able to use the sdcard for applications. I'm sure you dudes feel the same!
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jastonas said:
Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.
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About video recording not working: http://androidheadlines.com/2010/07/android-2-2-is-now-on-the-htc-desire-it-too-can-now-do-720p.html
Looks pretty functional to me

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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The only thing they have said is that they will be done BEFORE Christmas, that could be any time not precisely Christmas, it just gives them a window to allow for things to go wrong.

Another hint the update is not far of (statement from Eric Lin, global PR and online community Manager of HTC):
"I don't think you're going to see that really long six month, seven month lag, like you saw in the updates from 1.5 to 2.1, simply because it's a less severe change. Switching from 2.1 to 2.2, they made a lot of tweaks, but they didn't make any gigantic changes, so it should be a much swifter process".
Source: the::unwierd
Ascenca

Gingerbread update for Htc Desire

Is there anyone who knows if there is a date for the release this week?

Awesome, and i was just thinking we need another thread on the TGB updae and when its arriving lol

Ok, things are going a bit slow here... :-/ Is there really no one who knows a date?

Yes, really no one knows the date.

Igothakrull said:
Ok, things are going a bit slow here... :-/ Is there really no one who knows a date?
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Well, someone at HTC possibly, although maybe not - going by the number of threads where people have been told Yes/No/Maybe by different folks from said company...
It'll be here when it arrives, and not a moment sooner.

It would be prudent if the next topic about would be themed something like 'yay, I got an ota update'.

I think that maybe there will not be any date announced before the update. That we will just get it.
What do you guys think about that?

erklat said:
It would be prudent if the next topic about would be themed something like 'yay, I got an ota update'.
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Ohhh please dont tempt me!

Several weeks probably
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*cough* thorough *cough* research has shown that updates always arrive when you're offline, so I guess it doesn't help much to keep pressing the F5 or update button
I think they're using the same algorithm as the mail man, for delivering that one important package when you're not at home.

Don't see what you mean really... Do you mean that everyone won't get the update at the same time??? :S

Depends on your carrier's arrangements with HTC. It will be staggered so that the servers are not overloaded.
I'd assume that Europe will get the update first.

From what I gathered when I emailed htc awhile back they said they had some sort of slot system - not sure how much of that is true though...
Sounded like they had x amount of 'slots' per day and it sounded like first come first served style.
When they were full/used up you just waited till the next day.
for unbranded... carriers probably have their own way of doing things to the branded sets?

HTC themselves said last week that the new 2.3.3 update should be released for unbranded desire's sometime at the end of next week so it should be today or maybe over the weekend.
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Greegan said:
HTC themselves said last week that the new 2.3.3 update should be released for unbranded desire's sometime at the end of next week so it should be today or maybe over the weekend.
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NO. They said will provide info about the removed apps starting from this week.

They lied us again, no matter for the info or for the update itself

Igothakrull said:
Don't see what you mean really... Do you mean that everyone won't get the update at the same time??? :S
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No, people will get the update at different times, your mobile operator has to put its logos and other junk in to the update before it gets rolled out.
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NO. They said will provide info about the removed apps starting from this week.
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The amount of misinformation these days is staggering.
Actually there is a simple explanation why is that. It derives from the phenomenon called 'selective reading'. When they see a new thread, they only actually read two words, 'update' and 'Gingerbread'. The rest of the post they simply forge together by abstract thinking.

"HTC Desire getting Android 2.3 Gingerbread next week, some HTC Sense features face the chop"
Here's the link to the Facebook page:
http://recombu.com/news/htc-desire-...-htc-sense-features-face-the-chop_M14531.html
Hope this helps.

FML
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T-mobile uk branded firmware update

So Vodafone and 3 have released a branded 1.28 update...T-mobile refuse to even acknowledge it exists (even though 1.29 is out now for unbranded). I have asked everywhere and met a total wall of silence regarding updates from t-mobile.
So my plan now is to ask every branded t-mobile uk customer to tweet t-mobile's support asking for ANY information regarding updates to our bug ridden HOX. The standard reply is 'we don't get told until it is released'. That is not good enough we wont need to ask when it is released, I don't believe in this day and age someone internally can't at least let us know if anything is in test...
There are people who haven't had updates for their phones that were released months ago. I don't want to let t-mobile off the hook and do the same to us..
Tweet and let them know your feelings on this...
@TMobileUKhelp

TMobile HTC One X firmware update.
Very disapointed with Tmobile. I've just twitted them re the updates and I'm hoping for a reply.

jm1286 said:
Very disapointed with Tmobile. I've just twitted them re the updates and I'm hoping for a reply.
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I can tell you the reply:
"We cannot give you any details until the update is rolled out"
Boooooo!!
I dont care if they are not updating to it, i would just like to know that!

Susan: Hi there, my name is Susan. I am part of the dedicated T-Mobile Online Sales Team. How can I help you with your new order?
Mark: Hello do you know if T-Mobile plan to release the 1.28 software update for the HTC One X?
Susan: Hi Mark
Susan: Please bear with me while I check that information for you
Mark: ok thank you
Susan: At the moment we haven't planned yet for the same.
Susan: However I'll forward your request on my behalf.
Mark: ok onto who?

Facebook reply
Hi, I posted on t-mobile uk Facebook first about the 1.28 update and this was the reply I got "Hello Gary. I have heard nothing about the 1.28; nothing at all. If we get any information on this, it will be getting posted out. Thank you. David, T-Mobile Facebook Team"
Then asked about the 1.29 about an hour later and this was the reply I got "Hello Gary. At present, we do not know and there are occasions where we don't receive details regarding some updates until they have been released on the network. Thank you. David, T-Mobile Facebook Team."
So not helpful information from the Facebook side of things and I just sent HTC a message asking if they know, so far no reply but will let you know if anything comes of it.

Creyni said:
Hi, I posted on t-mobile uk Facebook first about the 1.28 update and this was the reply I got "Hello Gary. I have heard nothing about the 1.28; nothing at all. If we get any information on this, it will be getting posted out. Thank you. David, T-Mobile Facebook Team"
Then asked about the 1.29 about an hour later and this was the reply I got "Hello Gary. At present, we do not know and there are occasions where we don't receive details regarding some updates until they have been released on the network. Thank you. David, T-Mobile Facebook Team."
So not helpful information from the Facebook side of things and I just sent HTC a message asking if they know, so far no reply but will let you know if anything comes of it.
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All HTC will say is it depends on the networks testing policies.
I do think HTC should make all networks carrying there phone upgrade within x amount of weeks.

Okay well I also tweeted t-mobile as you suggested will see if what I get as a reply, more than like nothing of any help.

Creyni said:
Okay well I also tweeted t-mobile as you suggested will see if what I get as a reply, more than like nothing of any help.
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Thing to do it email them, use the contact us section and just say you wish they could give more news.

Cheers guys. they have chosen to totally ignore my tweet first thing this morning. Like you say even a 'no we are not testing it' would at least be something..
I will keep going with this until they cut me off

oxfordmark said:
Thing to do it email them, use the contact us section and just say you wish they could give more news.
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Cheers will do so

oxfordmark said:
Thing to do it email them, use the contact us section and just say you wish they could give more news.
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Will be doing that (over and over) as well. lol

Guys. I work for T-Mobile and can tell you that updates are low priority with all that's going on. People are not talking to each other. Even our mce toolbox is way behind on updates. All focus seems to be on 4g and stream lining staff in all departments. The same goes for orange
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n1kon said:
Guys. I work for T-Mobile and can tell you that updates are low priority with all that's going on. People are not talking to each other. Even our mce toolbox is way behind on updates. All focus seems to be on 4g and stream lining staff in all departments. The same goes for orange
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If true, that's poor. Business must go on as usual despite "changes" to an organisation.

O2 just rumoured to be releasing update in about a week. so that will just leave orange and t-mobile customers with bug ridden handsets....
Think there is a lesson here...I hope you still have some customers when you get round to releasing 4G (capped speeds anybody)...
Looks like rooting the way to go...

scointer said:
O2 just rumoured to be releasing update in about a week. so that will just leave orange and t-mobile customers with bug ridden handsets....
Think there is a lesson here...I hope you still have some customers when you get round to releasing 4G (capped speeds anybody)...
Looks like rooting the way to go...
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Rooting has and will always be the way to go when you get a handset from a network. If the phone works as in calls text and web, well all services that we pay for then things like battery life ect are not a priority. Not to the networks anyway.
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n1kon said:
Rooting has and will always be the way to go when you get a handset from a network. If the phone works as in calls text and web, well all services that we pay for then things like battery life ect are not a priority. Not to the networks anyway.
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When will total debranding happen?
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scointer said:
So Vodafone and 3 have released a branded 1.28 update...T-mobile refuse to even acknowledge it exists (even though 1.29 is out now for unbranded). I have asked everywhere and met a total wall of silence regarding updates from t-mobile.
So my plan now is to ask every branded t-mobile uk customer to tweet t-mobile's support asking for ANY information regarding updates to our bug ridden HOX. The standard reply is 'we don't get told until it is released'. That is not good enough we wont need to ask when it is released, I don't believe in this day and age someone internally can't at least let us know if anything is in test...
There are people who haven't had updates for their phones that were released months ago. I don't want to let t-mobile off the hook and do the same to us..
Tweet and let them know your feelings on this...
@TMobileUKhelp
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Hey, i dont know if youve still got this problem but ive recently (10days ago) purchased the HTC one X on a Tmobile UK contract and i have the 1.28 update. all i done was turned phone on, put my wifi on and a meesage popped up for the update. If you havent already, maybe you should try that. best of luck anyways, just bumped into this post whilst looking for the 1.29 update.

did you buy it from T-mobile shop or elsewhere?

aadil_d said:
Hey, i dont know if youve still got this problem but ive recently (10days ago) purchased the HTC one X on a Tmobile UK contract and i have the 1.28 update. all i done was turned phone on, put my wifi on and a meesage popped up for the update. If you havent already, maybe you should try that. best of luck anyways, just bumped into this post whilst looking for the 1.29 update.
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You are running an unbranded handset with a TM sim...
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I had a reply from customer services... They do not have a clue!
They suggested I contact HTC...
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1.29.401.7 Firmware Update Out In The UK

Ok people,
Just been on to HTC and they have confirmed that the 1.29.401.7 is out in the wild for UK users.
I have not had mine yet but they said this... (has anyone had there update yet?)
Robert: Hi Richard, thank you for contacting HTC Support, I am looking in to your query now.
Robert: I understand you wish to know when the latest Android 1.29 OTA update will be coming to your device.
In answer to your query the HTC One X Android 1.29 software update via FOTA EU is being rolled out as we speak, To unbranded devices. The servers can only handle 30,000 updates a day so you will have to be patient but you should receive the update soon. If your device is branded to a network e.g. 3, please wait for the network to release their branded software. The update is only available ota (over the air). There is also no way of installing an unbranded update on a branded device.
To manually search for updates please go through the following steps as described in the link below:
http://www.htc.com/help/www/howto_iframe.aspx?id=141676&type=1&p_id=440
For the latest news releases Please go to Our official HTC website, http://www.htc.com/uk/
Or web Fan pages e.g. Facebook & Twitter.
HTC thank you for your continued patience and co-operation at this time.
Richard Dixon: But thats great and all yet no one in the UK has received this update that I know of... (unless they got there phone from france or germany)
Robert: I can confirm it has been released.
Richard Dixon: Ive seen people asking on your official facebook and twitter. So its out in the UK?
Robert: Yes it is out in the UK.
PLEASE NOTE AFTER A FEW COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD IT SEEMS THE UPDATE IS NOT OUT IN THE UK AS OF YET AND HTC MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE. WILL POST MORE INFORMATION WHEN I GET IT.

Nothing on Vodafone here in London

Whistler23 said:
Nothing on Vodafone here in London
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Hi mate is your phone locked to Vodafone? This update is just for unbranded sim free phones at the moment, your network provider will release this update sometime later.

Already on it, RUU
But good to see it now slowly rolling out.
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Hi mate is your phone locked to Vodafone? This update is just for unbranded sim free phones at the moment, your network provider will release this update sometime later.
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Ah right I see. You had me all excited! (Yes it is).

nikzDHD said:
Already on it, RUU
But good to see it now slowly rolling out.
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Looking forward to the improved battery life . Ive been told it also makes HTC Sense a bit smoother, is that true? Ive noticed that some of the Live wallpapers stutter a bit.

Nothing for me yet either on an unbranded T-Mob HOX.

Damn it, I just sent my One X for Exchange as it had a fault, oh well, I guess I'll have the update ready for me when I get another one back on Thursday, gives my fingers a break from mashing the 'check now' button.

Nothing yet, Im on vodafone but unbranded HOX.

nothing on my unbranded one as well, and htc said the same thing to me a week ago and nothing yet

They've been giving the same canned response for a week. They seem to think it's out here but it ain't. I have been speaking to HTC at a high level about it as I believe some mistake has resulted in the UK not getting it. I will report back whatever I hear.

Nothing here yet
Unbranded T-Mobile

farnsbarns said:
They've been giving the same canned response for a week. They seem to think it's out here but it ain't. I have been speaking to HTC at a high level about it as I believe some mistake has resulted in the UK not getting it. I will report back whatever I hear.
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The guy speaking to me said he had received his update yesterday and its a UK handset so im unsure mate.

I'm already on it - RUU
But, I've noticed:
Slight improvement in home screen lag, it's still there...
Much lower AnTuTu score
& according to HTC's own built in battery test, battery is worse than 1.28
I went from 90% left after the test on 1.28, down to 88% on 1.29
So, battery not as good maybe? & benching is much lower...
Hmm.....
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I had the same email as that myself & also a similar reply from online chat, but there is i think you will find as yet no update in the UK.

anoniemouse said:
I had the same email as that myself & also a similar reply from online chat, but there is i think you will find as yet no update in the UK.
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I think we should all ring HTC now and tell them they are mistaken and its not out in the UK....

Game-Modo said:
The guy speaking to me said he had received his update yesterday and its a UK handset so im unsure mate.
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Just got this back from HTC manager...
Stay tuned....ill need to investigate and send a few mails. But it seems a bit strange. I received my update this weekend. But that was on a Nordic device. Keep checking manually. I'll keep you informed. Cheers
So at least someone's checking.

farnsbarns said:
Just got this back from HTC manager...
Stay tuned....ill need to investigate and send a few mails. But it seems a bit strange. I received my update this weekend. But that was on a Nordic device. Keep checking manually. I'll keep you informed. Cheers
So at least someone's checking.
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Not cool. I thought it was a little odd Europe got it and the UK did not.

chrisjcks said:
I'm already on it - RUU
But, I've noticed:
Slight improvement in home screen lag, it's still there...
Much lower AnTuTu score
& according to HTC's own built in battery test, battery is worse than 1.28
I went from 90% left after the test on 1.28, down to 88% on 1.29
So, battery not as good maybe? & benching is much lower...
Hmm.....
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Considering its had some negative effects, I'm not really fussed when it arrives, just hoping the next one is better :banghead:
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dannysmith43 said:
Considering its had some negative effects, I'm not really fussed when it arrives, just hoping the next one is better :banghead:
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Definately but what if we wont be able to get the next one too?? (Talking about UK handsets)

HTC 10 Europe System Update

When are we going to get one? Haven't even got the security patches!
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SiAmaze said:
When are we going to get one? Haven't even got the security patches!
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There's a thread around here full of people complaining and asking about when it's coming. No one knows.

It's a weird situation for EU. The carrier O2 released 2.48 for German devices...But not for all EU unlocked...
I thought at least EU unlocked should follow O2, but three weeks now..nothing happened. And the support team in France is so incapable that they said they don't know when is the next update.
I'm getting tired of this. If current sw is not battery draining and the long-exposure photo in pro mode RAW is clear enough, I wouldn't not be so anxious to ask for the new update...
HTC EU does a nasty job...That's why I'm switching to Pixel later this year despite HTC U11 is excellent.

Tarima said:
There's a thread around here full of people complaining and asking about when it's coming. No one knows.
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Anyway, I don't think I need an update for my phone, cuz it's working flawlessly already.
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