Google Edition, i9505, and Tmo-Variant Question. - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

Hello fellas. I have a question.
Gave away My n4 to my girl and got a free S4 from T-mobile about a day or two ago.. Yay. Rooted and flashed CM 10.2 and loving the phone but i do have a question;
Now i know Google sells the GE Edition S4 But i don't see a difference in our version and theirs besides obviously running Stock and has easy root. But once our device is rooted, essentially don't we have a GE S4? I mean running the GE Roms should be pretty easy since its the same device? Also, i've been reading around and noticed that alot of people from our forum have been flashing roms meant for the unlocked (i9505) S4. We can run any rom from that forum? i know our devices are different processor wise (exynos) but can we just flash their roms willy nilly, and change the APNs to run our LTE and we are good to go? Excited to essentially know that i can Run 4.4 kitkat when it arrives in a few months if this is the case. Got jealous when i saw a glimpse of the N5 and 4.4

Shaquiel Harris said:
Hello fellas. I have a question.
Gave away My n4 to my girl and got a free S4 from T-mobile about a day or two ago.. Yay. Rooted and flashed CM 10.2 and loving the phone but i do have a question;
Now i know Google sells the GE Edition S4 But i don't see a difference in our version and theirs besides obviously running Stock and has easy root. But once our device is rooted, essentially don't we have a GE S4? I mean running the GE Roms should be pretty easy since its the same device? Also, i've been reading around and noticed that alot of people from our forum have been flashing roms meant for the unlocked (i9505) S4. We can run any rom from that forum? i know our devices are different processor wise (exynos) but can we just flash their roms willy nilly, and change the APNs to run our LTE and we are good to go? Excited to essentially know that i can Run 4.4 kitkat when it arrives in a few months if this is the case. Got jealous when i saw a glimpse of the N5 and 4.4
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I wouldn't flash anything that is not meant for TMO GS4. Just to avoid being in trouble.
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Shaquiel Harris said:
Hello fellas. I have a question.
Gave away My n4 to my girl and got a free S4 from T-mobile about a day or two ago.. Yay. Rooted and flashed CM 10.2 and loving the phone but i do have a question;
Now i know Google sells the GE Edition S4 But i don't see a difference in our version and theirs besides obviously running Stock and has easy root. But once our device is rooted, essentially don't we have a GE S4? I mean running the GE Roms should be pretty easy since its the same device? Also, i've been reading around and noticed that alot of people from our forum have been flashing roms meant for the unlocked (i9505) S4. We can run any rom from that forum? i know our devices are different processor wise (exynos) but can we just flash their roms willy nilly, and change the APNs to run our LTE and we are good to go? Excited to essentially know that i can Run 4.4 kitkat when it arrives in a few months if this is the case. Got jealous when i saw a glimpse of the N5 and 4.4
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I wouldn't flash anything that is not meant for TMO GS4. Just to avoid being in trouble.
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There are quite a few threads here both asking and explaining that yes, we can flawlessly run ROMs for other variants. Meaning yes; if you want to run a ROM from the i9505 section, go right ahead. If you like the way an AT&T ROM looks, flash it. When you mention the Exynos CPU, please note that the Exynos is the i9500 and flashing any ROM from that section will brick. i9505 = safe. i9500 = NO NO. The best thing to remember when flashing other variant's ROMs is to use a kernel for your device. Don't worry if you forget to flash your kernel, you're not gonna do any damage, you just won't be able to boot; just wipe, re-flash, and remember your kernel this time.
And before the question gets asked, no you can't do a full GPe conversion. You CAN use the CWM-flashable ROMs, but as far as totally converting, using the pit, GPe stock recovery, and receiving OTA updates... the answer is no.
Not trying to sound like a douche nozzle here, so if I came off that way, I apologize. It's just that this info has already been covered in depth.

lordcheeto03 said:
There are quite a few threads here both asking and explaining that yes, we can flawlessly run ROMs for other variants. Meaning yes; if you want to run a ROM from the i9505 section, go right ahead. If you like the way an AT&T ROM looks, flash it. When you mention the Exynos CPU, please note that the Exynos is the i9500 and flashing any ROM from that section will brick. i9505 = safe. i9500 = NO NO. The best thing to remember when flashing other variant's ROMs is to use a kernel for your device. Don't worry if you forget to flash your kernel, you're not gonna do any damage, you just won't be able to boot; just wipe, re-flash, and remember your kernel this time.
And before the question gets asked, no you can't do a full GPe conversion. You CAN use the CWM-flashable ROMs, but as far as totally converting, using the pit, GPe stock recovery, and receiving OTA updates... the answer is no.
Not trying to sound like a douche nozzle here, so if I came off that way, I apologize. It's just that this info has already been covered in depth.
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Quick, easy to the point answer. Love it thanks man. Just I've been on the Nexus phones and devices for a while and just needed a refresher on flashing different variants. :laugh: To be honest I did search some threads a little more in depth after posting and found these answers, so my apologies for that. Thanks again though man.

Shaquiel Harris said:
Quick, easy to the point answer. Love it thanks man. Just I've been on the Nexus phones and devices for a while and just needed a refresher on flashing different variants. :laugh: To be honest I did search some threads a little more in depth after posting and found these answers, so my apologies for that. Thanks again though man.
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No worries. I know how it is to overlook something after searching/reading for an hour. :good:

Thanks to the OP and others who have responded. After playing with my sister's S4 a few days ago, I've been debating ditching my Nexus 4 and going the CM/GPe S4 route.

daewond3r said:
Thanks to the OP and others who have responded. After playing with my sister's S4 a few days ago, I've been debating ditching my Nexus 4 and going the CM/GPe S4 route.
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lordcheeto03 said:
There are quite a few threads here both asking and explaining that yes, we can flawlessly run ROMs for other variants. Meaning yes; if you want to run a ROM from the i9505 section, go right ahead. If you like the way an AT&T ROM looks, flash it. When you mention the Exynos CPU, please note that the Exynos is the i9500 and flashing any ROM from that section will brick. i9505 = safe. i9500 = NO NO. The best thing to remember when flashing other variant's ROMs is to use a kernel for your device. Don't worry if you forget to flash your kernel, you're not gonna do any damage, you just won't be able to boot; just wipe, re-flash, and remember your kernel this time.
And before the question gets asked, no you can't do a full GPe conversion. You CAN use the CWM-flashable ROMs, but as far as totally converting, using the pit, GPe stock recovery, and receiving OTA updates... the answer is no.
Not trying to sound like a douche nozzle here, so if I came off that way, I apologize. It's just that this info has already been covered in depth.
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No worries. I know how it is to overlook something after searching/reading for an hour. :good:
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MAN tell me about it. So how are you liking your S4? I love this thing so far. Just need to find a case on amazon, was honestly looking for maybe a bumper case but I haven't found one yet. Boy I can't wait for that Samsung galaxy gear watch to come out, would be perfect with this phone. Hopefully I won't have to go back to touchwiz though :victory:. Impatiently waiting for kitkat and the reveal of the N5, which if is in the same price point of the n4, I will be getting as well.

daewond3r said:
Thanks to the OP and others who have responded. After playing with my sister's S4 a few days ago, I've been debating ditching my Nexus 4 and going the CM/GPe S4 route.
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I would wait, with the unveil of Kitkat and the N5 relatively soon, that may blow this phone out the water.

Shaquiel Harris said:
MAN tell me about it. So how are you liking your S4? I love this thing so far. Just need to find a case on amazon, was honestly looking for maybe a bumper case but I haven't found one yet. Boy I can't wait for that Samsung galaxy gear watch to come out, would be perfect with this phone. Hopefully I won't have to go back to touchwiz though :victory:. Impatiently waiting for kitkat and the reveal of the N5, which if is in the same price point of the n4, I will be getting as well.
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The truth? It's only my 2nd Android phone, so I can't really speak from very much Android experience, but so far it's a beast. I got an Otterbox Defender the day I got the phone and it's spent maybe 10 minutes out of the case... it adds a little more bulk, but I also cracked my old phone's screen twice while going caseless; I can live with a little more bulk.
On TouchWiz; it's really astounded me. My previous phone, I used everything BUT stock; something about the S4 though, I can't stay away from TouchWiz. The same can be said for the other ROMs as well though. My ROM folder on my SD card is over 10GB and I constantly swap between them.

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Any new Fido Galaxy S3 users here? Just got mine

After a long time staying loyal to the Nexus line I just picked up an S3. Main reason was the 44$ price tag and the fact I could stick a 64GB micro SD in here.
So far I think the phone is ok but WOW does their bloatware make the phone sucks. I really want my old Android OS back and wil be reading all the guides I can about flashing it.
Anyone else gotten one? Anyone flashes it yet?
sspikey said:
After a long time staying loyal to the Nexus line I just picked up an S3. Main reason was the 44$ price tag and the fact I could stick a 64GB micro SD in here.
So far I think the phone is ok but WOW does their bloatware make the phone sucks. I really want my old Android OS back and wil be reading all the guides I can about flashing it.
Anyone else gotten one? Anyone flashes it yet?
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Just root it and freeze/delete the apps you don't need. Stay away from AOSP, you'll get used to Touchwiz and love what it offers over those buggy ROMs.
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I may try and find someone in town with a custom rom S3 and try it out. I REALLY miss my CM roms on my Nexus S.
You are right though, there are some great features bundled in the touchwiz OS but a ton I simply want gone. I simply hate the layout of a lot of the included programs like the SMS, calendar and phone.
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I REALLY miss my CM roms on my Nexus S.
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If it's CM you're after, that's definitely available for your new phone. The device code you're looking for is d2att, i.e. this is the download page you'd want.
Of course, you might want to root the device first (the most applicable image for your device would probably be the Rogers one), and put a new recovery image on there - I suggest TWRP for that, though if you're used to CWM that's certainly an option as well.
Welcome to the wide world of the S3, and have fun!
If you want AOSP / AOKP get Task650 Roms. Hes has a 100% perfect 4.1.2, and a great stable 4.2.1 ROM out. Check in original android. Been using it for a long long time on both the S3's in our household and everyones super happy. Super fast and no crashes or problems. TW was just too slow.
His Rom's are for AT&T.
geoldr said:
If you want AOSP / AOKP get Task650 Roms. Hes has a 100% perfect 4.1.2, and a great stable 4.2.1 ROM out. Check in original android. Been using it for a long long time on both the S3's in our household and everyones super happy. Super fast and no crashes or problems. TW was just too slow.
His Rom's are for AT&T.
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AT&T's model is the exact same as the Bell, Rogers (and Fido), and Telus
Man you guys are all so welcoming with the wonderful links. Thank you so much.
So im surprised no one else has chimmed in as a new fido owner. I must say their cost is a little high for the phone which might be the reason why. 250$ on a 2 year plan for a phone that is free most elsewhere aint cheap. Luckily for me I got a great deal on it (44$ total cost!)
Does anyone have some warranty related info or links they could send me? I have read about an hours worth and cant seem to gather a clear picture. From what I can tell theres are three methods to rooting this device.
Also, any info on what to backup in order not to brick this phone?
This phone is quite a bit more work than the Nexus I had earlier. None the less I am pretty sure ill have tons of fun!
smelenchuk said:
If it's CM you're after, that's definitely available for your new phone. The device code you're looking for is d2att, i.e. this is the download page you'd want.
Of course, you might want to root the device first (the most applicable image for your device would probably be the Rogers one), and put a new recovery image on there - I suggest TWRP for that, though if you're used to CWM that's certainly an option as well.
Welcome to the wide world of the S3, and have fun!
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thanks for the awesome info.
Looks like I will be tripping the flash counter no matter what I do accoding to the first link. Have there been any further developements since that post was written? Warranty is a concern of mine with this phone as its quite pricey!
l'm on fido with a unlocked Rogers GS3 which I used one of the threads here to unlock yourself
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yulet said:
Just root it and freeze/delete the apps you don't need. Stay away from AOSP, you'll get used to Touchwiz and love what it offers over those buggy ROMs.
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LMAO. Touchwiz is complete garbage and really slows the S3 down. I used it for a couple of weeks and could not stand all the Samsung bloat and the Samsung replacement apps (phone, messaging, etc.).
Wiped it and I'm running CM 10.1 nightly (1/13) and the phone is a beast now. Super fast, with the best possible UI, i.e. the way Android is meant to be!
Yes there are a few bugs but they're nothing major and at this point CM 10.1 is definitely good enough to be a daily driver. DO NOT hesitate to drop TW crap for CM!

[Q] About to get an SIII! General questions..

Okay so I'm planning on finally upgrading from my Samsung Vibrant(S1) to an S3. I would go to an S4 but it's still a bit too pricey for me. Anyways, I just wanted to know some general tips and such. What is the latest official firmware, some pros and cons of keeping TW, which ROMs should I use, etc. Just any input would be nice! I think I've just about maxed out my Vibrant's potential with it running SlimBean 4.2.2 for the most part, and recently switching over to CyanAOSP. I think it's my phone, but things are still very laggy. So I can't wait for my S3 to come in.
Sorry if this is in the wrong section. First time posting.
You will find out quickly that almost everything here is great. Touchwiz isn't bad on this phone and cm 10.1 has almost all the bugs worked out. So all i can say is happy crack flashing.
Honestly, save a lil more and get the S4. Don't upgrade to last yrs model.
Don't get me wrong, the S3 is a major upgrade from the Vibrant, but I feel like if you have an opportunity to upgrade you should get the very best upgrade available.
Just my 2¢.
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I would also recommend to save a bit more and get the s4. You have waited this long why not a bit more?
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Thing is, I'm in desperate need for a phone currently. My Vibrant is becoming unusable and it'll take me a while to save more money. I'm only 16, and the only source of money for me is an annual thing, which is doing the traditional Lion Dance every Chinese New Years. So, by next year's event, I'm sure S5 will be coming about and my Vibrant will definitely be dead by then. So I'm gonna go ahead and upgrade to an S3 now. I really need it to talk to my gf too, since we're a state away. Thanks for everyone's input about going to S4 though.
Btw, I'm guessing it's not possible, but a T-Mobile S3 can't flash ROMs from the i9300 can it? I wanted to try out the recently released GlamourS4 ROM, but I just realized it was in the i9300 section.. Unless the T-Mobile variant is the same model?
limen123 said:
Btw, I'm guessing it's not possible, but a T-Mobile S3 can't flash ROMs from the i9300 can it? I wanted to try out the recently released GlamourS4 ROM, but I just realized it was in the i9300 section.. Unless the T-Mobile variant is the same model?
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No, do not flash ROMs or kernels from other s3's you will end up with a hard brick!! You can flash ROMs from at&t though.. Verizon and sprint I don't think will brick it, but better stay away..
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If you're really that tight on money, then maybe you shouldn't root.
And as mentioned above, do not flash anything from the International S3 section.
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limen123 said:
Thing is, I'm in desperate need for a phone currently. My Vibrant is becoming unusable and it'll take me a while to save more money. I'm only 16, and the only source of money for me is an annual thing, which is doing the traditional Lion Dance every Chinese New Years. So, by next year's event, I'm sure S5 will be coming about and my Vibrant will definitely be dead by then. So I'm gonna go ahead and upgrade to an S3 now. I really need it to talk to my gf too, since we're a state away. Thanks for everyone's input about going to S4 though.
Btw, I'm guessing it's not possible, but a T-Mobile S3 can't flash ROMs from the i9300 can it? I wanted to try out the recently released GlamourS4 ROM, but I just realized it was in the i9300 section.. Unless the T-Mobile variant is the same model?
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Man, back in my Vibrant days, I would of told you to Odin and flash Bionix by Team Whiskey.
Best Rom I ran back then, couldn't really top that.
But I see what you mean! well enjoy your new toy.
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Latest update is 4.1.2, which has multi window.
Touchwiz is ok, definitely recommend getting Nova launcher. Rooting is simple, plenty of instructions, follow them and you'll be good.
I definitely don't recommend flashing kernels or roms not meant for t mobile. You don't want to end up with a hard brick phone. Especially your case that you're tight on money. You don't want to pay extra for a repair.
From MY PERSONAL opinion. Wicked v10 and Stockorama are fantastic touchwiz based roms. Solid battery life and super smooth.
Always read the op and hit the search button.
I can't advise much about AOSP based roms since I just started using one two days ago. I'm on Liquidsmooth 2.5 and it's working great so far.
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Ask your parents for the extra money you need.. I'm sure they will be willing to lend you some.
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707BeastMode707 said:
If you're really that tight on money, then maybe you shouldn't root.
And as mentioned above, do not flash anything from the International S3 section.
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Hmm. Care to explain why?
IXChicharitoXI said:
Latest update is 4.1.2, which has multi window.
Touchwiz is ok, definitely recommend getting Nova launcher. Rooting is simple, plenty of instructions, follow them and you'll be good.
I definitely don't recommend flashing kernels or roms not meant for t mobile. You don't want to end up with a hard brick phone. Especially your case that you're tight on money. You don't want to pay extra for a repair.
From MY PERSONAL opinion. Wicked v10 and Stockorama are fantastic touchwiz based roms. Solid battery life and super smooth.
Always read the op and hit the search button.
I can't advise much about AOSP based roms since I just started using one two days ago. I'm on Liquidsmooth 2.5 and it's working great so far.
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So 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 are leaks right now? What would be advantages of staying on 4.1.2 until the official release?
Yeah, I've been using Nova on my Vibrant for who knows how long. I love it.
Thanks to everyone for the info about carrier-specific flashing. I wasn't intending on trying it until I got an answer anyways.
So what kind of advantages would I get from TW roms and AOSP roms? I know the Samsung specific things like multiwindow, but what else? Or is just a matter of preference?
wardoc22 said:
Ask your parents for the extra money you need.. I'm sure they will be willing to lend you some.
Always go for the best you know?
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Trust me, they won't. I've tried asking for a bit of money so I could get the S3 when it was first released. It'll be the same thing if I ask for a bit to get an S4.
limen123 said:
Hmm. Care to explain why?
So 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 are leaks right now? What would be advantages of staying on 4.1.2 until the official release?
Yeah, I've been using Nova on my Vibrant for who knows how long. I love it.
Thanks to everyone for the info about carrier-specific flashing. I wasn't intending on trying it until I got an answer anyways.
So what kind of advantages would I get from TW roms and AOSP roms? I know the Samsung specific things like multiwindow, but what else? Or is just a matter of preference?
Trust me, they won't. I've tried asking for a bit of money so I could get the S3 when it was first released. It'll be the same thing if I ask for a bit to get an S4.
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I'm not against rooting, but if you're tight on cash, then maybe you should think twice about it. Accidents can happen, you can accidentally flash the wrong kernel or rom and brick your device. It can be fixed, but it will cost you.
limen123 said:
So 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 are leaks right now? What would be advantages of staying on 4.1.2 until the official release?
Yeah, I've been using Nova on my Vibrant for who knows how long. I love it.
Thanks to everyone for the info about carrier-specific flashing. I wasn't intending on trying it until I got an answer anyways.
So what kind of advantages would I get from TW roms and AOSP roms? I know the Samsung specific things like multiwindow, but what else? Or is just a matter of preference?
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The latest official release was 4.1.2 which came out a few weeks ago. It's major improvement imo was multi window. I didn't care about the other features personally.
If I'm not mistaken all AOSP roms are 4.2.2 based.
Advantages for touchwiz roms is great stability. You shouldn't come across many, if any bugs at all. You will have all the gesture features on touchwiz roms. Palm to screenshot, tap to refresh, smart stay, etc. You will have more camera features. Everything should just work.
AOSP have more customization but you will give up Samsung features, downgraded camera imo, and you will likely come across minor issues. Random reboots, flickering issues, etc.
I'm not saying AOSP roms are bad. The community here is great and for the most part there's always a solution. I'm running an AOSP rom and I haven't had any issues so far.
One thing I'll recommend, don't switch between AOSP and touchwiz roms back and forth. You may experience some issues, best to Odin stock from an AOSP rom then flash a touchwiz rom afterwards. It's not difficult, just a bit time consuming.
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Touchwiz isnt horrible, I just don't like it very much. Its stable, but to me its too laggy, that and I can only have 4 rows and columns on the launcher for icons. If you ask me, it wastes screen real estate, but there are alternatives to it.
Overall once you get 4.1.2 running on this phone it becomes very very stable.
If you want another launcher, Nova (Prime version is 4$, Go Launcher Ex, ADW are all fine choices. Just be warned that Touchwiz Widgets (Such as the Touchwiz Calendar, Accuweather) cannot be used with those Launchers. I use Nova Prime (With Teslaunread for unread email and MMS counts), and it is rock solid stable, and also has Project Butter enhancements which just make it so smooth its not even funny.
Granted, there are also replacements for those such as the Weather Channel, Weather Underground, Google Calendar (Which is what I use anyway), and tons more on Google Play
The S3 is a reasonably good phone, and the only phone I would actually ditch it for would be the Galaxy S4: Nexus Edition when it gets released, granted the GS4-N is not LTE compatible, and costs full price (650$ from what I hear), but it will be Pure AOSP.
I like my GS3.
Also dont use the stock music player, believe me, its not that good. Buy/download one of these
Poweramp (4$)
N7Player (also 4$),
Winamp (Free, but has a paid version that removes Ads and unlocks a couple features).
There are many other Music Players. As for Video Players, I use Moboplayer.
Also the i9003 is the international model. No rom for the SGH-T999 will work on the i9003, nor will any rom built for the i9003 work on the SGH-T999. In fact, flashing either of them to the opposite will brick your phone.
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Throwing in my experience with TouchWiz.
The SGS3 is a pretty solid phone, and some of the TouchWiz stuff can get you quite hooked (personally, I like how you're able to flip through the homescreen until you are back at the beginning, and some nice touches they recently included for their file manager like the helix and roll pin scrolling), but it's mostly a matter of preference.
On the other hand, I started having issues with the stock TouchWiz after almost a year of use. It would randomly restart itself from time to time, then all controls became unresponsive after start-up (volume buttons, home button, touchscreen and the soft buttons); only the power button was working. I only got it working again after I did a clean wipe and restored an older backup. Which then inevitably led me to check out custom ROMs.
I never had an Android phone before this one, but my brother had been tinkering with his Vibrant for years now. He was the one that helped me root my SGS3, and he stated that it's a lot easier to do things now than it was back when he first started since there's an app for just about everything needed. (Just to give you a perspective)
Besides, the instructions around here are pretty easy to follow.
And yeah, if you are going for a T-Mobile SGS3, only look for ROMs compatible with SGH-T999 (T999) for T-Mobile (d2tmo).
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Yes exactly, my bad.
Ask your mom or dad or even family members if you can borrow money to buy an S4. I was touching the S4 the other day at Tmobile and it's so fast and smooth makes me wanted it so bad. I think S4 is better than S3. Go for the S4 I would say.
TouchWiz feels too bloaty and laggy for my taste, so I recommend using CM10.1. The smoothness in scrolling and general navigation of the UI are definitely noticeable compared to even the most de-bloated TouchWiz ROM. Just my 2c.

Why no 4.2 touchwiz ROM?

I can't find a straight answer. Why is aren't there any 4.2 Touchwiz roms?
HTCMDA said:
I can't find a straight answer. Why is aren't there any 4.2 Touchwiz roms?
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Cause Samsung didn't make one. Actually, 4.1.2 is more than likely all we'll officially get. I think they're done upgrading S2's....aside from perhaps the international version I read somewhere.
Battery problems? No matter the rom or android version.... >>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
kj2112 said:
Cause Samsung didn't make one. Actually, 4.1.2 is more than likely all we'll officially get. I think they're done upgrading S2's....aside from perhaps the international version I read somewhere.
Battery problems? No matter the rom or android version.... >>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
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Clearly I have poor functioning sentence structure, when I'm lacking sleep. lol "why is aren't there". Geez..
Thanks for answering my question though.
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I can't find a straight answer. Why is aren't there any 4.2 Touchwiz roms?
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Mainly because Samsung lost the suit against apple, so they've gone back to the drawing board in many ways. To continue investing in devices that led to them being sued would just not be financially intelligent.
I really hate tw. I'd agree with others. I don't think Samsung it's going to be updating our phones anymore.
There will be no more updates for the Galaxy S2, I saw this confirmed not long ago, but I forget where.
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You guys will have to excuse my stupidity, I just don't fully understand how the galaxy s3 has a factory touchwz 4.2.2 rom and the galaxy s2 doesn't. the specs aren't even drastically different. one has 2gb of ram and a higher resolution screen. both are 1.5ghz ...
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You guys will have to excuse my stupidity, I just don't fully understand how the galaxy s3 has a factory touchwz 4.2.2 rom and the galaxy s2 doesn't. the specs aren't even drastically different. one has 2gb of ram and a higher resolution screen. both are 1.5ghz ...
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If Samsung were to continue to update thier older phones no one would buy the new ones. It's all about money.
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If Samsung were to continue to update thier older phones no one would buy the new ones. It's all about money.
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But with that logic, the s3 is OLDER than the s4, and yet it was updated AFTER the s4 was released....
the galaxy s2-plus (almost as old as the galaxy s2 itself) also has a 4.2.2 update as well. So, tell me more about this $$$ theory of yours :cyclops:
HTCMDA said:
But with that logic, the s3 is OLDER than the s4, and yet it was updated AFTER the s4 was released....
the galaxy s2-plus (almost as old as the galaxy s2 itself) also has a 4.2.2 update as well. So, tell me more about this $$$ theory of yours :cyclops:
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Guys....its simple. Had Samsung not made 100 different S2 variations for some dumb reason, they would have updated us I'm sure. But as there's so many different models out there and the device is 2 generations behind.....they drew the update line in the sand. That's it.
Except the newer one I guess, and I heard the international one....yet to be seen.
That's electronic life. Very short support life span. At least with phones. Maybe if the phone builders didn't put out a new model every 8 months things would be different. But they just love milking the techy's that gotta always have the latest and greatest.
Plus....I agree with the $$$$$ reason too.
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HTCMDA said:
But with that logic, the s3 is OLDER than the s4, and yet it was updated AFTER the s4 was released....
the galaxy s2-plus (almost as old as the galaxy s2 itself) also has a 4.2.2 update as well. So, tell me more about this $$$ theory of yours :cyclops:
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the s2-plus came out after the s3(jan 2013), which was a really surprising move for samsung(but in my opinion it was just another way for them to rake in the cash). and pretty much all of the android phones will have ended up with at least 2 system updates from thier respective manufacturers. our phone actually got 3 system updates, it came with 2.3.6 went to 4.0.3 and then to 4.0.4 and now to 4.1.2, if our phone kept getting updates there would be no need to buy a new phone, so once again it all comes back down to they want to make more money. and in this world that is all that any successful company is going to do, try and get you to buy there next new product(even if it means that they have to stop updating a perfectly good device to do it). If they didn't, they wouldn't succeed as a business.
In short our phone is not going to get an official 4.2.2 update because samsung wants you to buy a new phone so that they continue to make more $$$.
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the s2-plus came out after the s3(jan 2013), which was a really surprising move for samsung(but in my opinion it was just another way for them to rake in the cash). and pretty much all of the android phones will have ended up with at least 2 system updates from thier respective manufacturers. our phone actually got 3 system updates, it came with 2.3.6 went to 4.0.3 and then to 4.0.4 and now to 4.1.2, if our phone kept getting updates there would be no need to buy a new phone, so once again it all comes back down to they want to make more money. and in this world that is all that any successful company is going to do, try and get you to buy there next new product(even if it means that they have to stop updating a perfectly good device to do it). If they didn't, they wouldn't succeed as a business.
In short our phone is not going to get an official 4.2.2 update because samsung wants you to buy a new phone so that they continue to make more $$$.
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buy a new phone.. ok, buy an S3 (which is NOT NEW) BOOM 4.2.2 update. and that works out good for who? Especially if you buy one 2nd hand, does samsung make 2nd hand money? nope. I get the whole it's all about money thing, but apparently nobody gets what I'm trying to say. IF those old, non new phones have it....why not this one. It's old, not new, similar specs. Oh well, If I knew how I'd make my own TW 4.2.2 build lol
I don't think the s3 is on 4.2.2 is it?
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holeindalip said:
I don't think the s3 is on 4.2.2 is it?
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NO it's not my wife's TMO s3 is still on 4.1.2.
gregcapps said:
NO it's not my wife's TMO s3 is still on 4.1.2.
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I dunno what carrier, but I know I saw one with a 4.2.2 build, that was touchwiz. Very similar to the S4.
maybe it was unlocked/international? Google it.
My questions were somewhat answered, so pointless thread now.
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I dunno what carrier, but I know I saw one with a 4.2.2 build, that was touchwiz. Very similar to the S4.
maybe it was unlocked/international? Google it.
My questions were somewhat answered, so pointless thread now.
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Anything you saw was most likely a leak at best. No S3 model has an official update from Samsung, even the International, I checked.

[Q] Possibly switching to the HTC One

A couple of months ago I decided to upgrade to the Galaxy S4 and now I'm just so insanely bored with it that I am seriously considering buying an HTC One mainly so I can flash roms again. With the S4, unless you were lucky enough to have the original firmware, then you cannot unlock the bootloader and flash custom roms. I've always loved the HTC One but went for more familiar Galaxy S4 thinking that it would give me the same freedoms as my older Galaxy, but I was pretty wrong on that assumption. So I have a few questions for you all before I jump in...
1) Is there a safe and reliable method to unlock the bootloader that works with all firmwares? Do any of the updates lock down the phone like what happened with the S4?
2) What's S-off and do I need it? I've only had Samsung phones.
3) In your own opinion how healthy is development for this phone? I was hoping to run a stable Sense rom. Not really interested in AOSP roms.
Thank you all for your time.
I actually jumped over to the One from the S4 last week. If you have any questions feel free to hit me up on hangouts, mine is [email protected]
I'm glad I mad the change. I'm s-off, boot loader unlocked, and running a VERY stable sense ROM. With the S4, I had to use aosp because touchwiz was awful to me. Bloated and laggy. Sense has been so great, I don't feel any need to flash aosp right now.
I can also explain s-off a bit to you if you'd like.
The only thing I really miss is the far better camera experience on the S4. If picture taking on your phone is something you REALLY have to have. You may find yourself regretting. The One is not bad by any means, but for clarity and sharpness, I'd say the S4 is hands down better. We're also talking about camera phones here, can't really complain much. Only so much they can do with limitations on size and what not.
Sense is actually quite nice and I find myself switching between CM11 and a Sense built ROM. I can't make up my mind some times...haha
Does the 4.3 OTA break the ability to unlock the bootloader and root?
It shouldn't. Currently you're unable to, but that's just until beaups updates his s-off utility. So far so good! And with us finally getting official source for 4.3development should pick up even more. Honestly, i'm really enjoying this phone, the screen is slightly smaller than the s4, which was my initial apprehension, but I actually prefer that. I don't have to do that awkward stretch to reach the edges of the screen.
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It shouldn't. Currently you're unable to, but that's just until beaups updates his s-off utility. So far so good! And with us finally getting official source for 4.3development should pick up even more. Honestly, i'm really enjoying this phone, the screen is slightly smaller than the s4, which was my initial apprehension, but I actually prefer that. I don't have to do that awkward stretch to reach the edges of the screen.
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I'm a fan of larger screens so for me it'll be a little annoying at first but the speakers will more than make up for it when I'm watching a video. To be honest I really like the S4 but it's just so limiting (unless you're lucky enough to have an MDK version). Also it seems like EVERYONE these days is walking around with an S4, where as almost no one has an HTC One. That's not really a good reason to choose it over the S4, but to me it kind of makes it special by being unique. I just really hate that Verizon doesn't carry the black model because if they did I would already have the One.
This screen in plenty big, don't worry. That was my primary concern, but I haven't missed it. I actually had an MDK model, since I got the s4 on release day. I do love these speakers on the One, too. The build quality on this thing is incredible though, it just feels so... Premium. No more plastic lol
I switched from a s4 as well. I miss the camera but that's it.
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Well I did it. I bought a brand new One and I'm just waiting to get it. Very excited
Sweet, you won't regret it! If you have any questions regarding the differences in terminology (s-off, RUU, that kinda stuff), I'm happy to help. I know I had quite a few when I made the jump.
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Sweet, you won't regret it! If you have any questions regarding the differences in terminology (s-off, RUU, that kinda stuff), I'm happy to help. I know I had quite a few when I made the jump.
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I will definitely have many questions, and once I get everything going I will hit you up. Thanks a bunch
Anytime man, glad to help
I'm getting kind of paranoid now that I see there's no root method for the 4.3 OTA yet. I'm really hoping when I get it it's still on 4.2. Should I immediately put it into Airplane mode? I've heard stories of Galaxy S4s automatically downloading and installing the OTA without any user input...
You shouldn't have to. Mine has always asked me if I wanted to install. Wouldn't hurt to throw it in airplane mode, though. An update to rumrunner should come along soon, there wasn't much in the OTA that could've patched that all up.
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You shouldn't have to. Mine has always asked me if I wanted to install. Wouldn't hurt to throw it in airplane mode, though. An update to rumrunner should come along soon, there wasn't much in the OTA that could've patched that all up.
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Thanks man you've been really helpful. I'll be catching up with you soon once it actually arrives to me. Thanks again.
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Thanks man you've been really helpful. I'll be catching up with you soon once it actually arrives to me. Thanks again.
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No problem, glad I could help!
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I'm getting kind of paranoid now that I see there's no root method for the 4.3 OTA yet. I'm really hoping when I get it it's still on 4.2. Should I immediately put it into Airplane mode? I've heard stories of Galaxy S4s automatically downloading and installing the OTA without any user input...
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I got a brand new one at a VZW store over the weekend and it came with the .8 update so it was 2 updates away from 4.3
Just got a one from Verizon mail order. It came with 1.10.605.10.
Much nicer than my galaxy s3! Now I need to read up on rooting and unlocking.
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I guess I got lucky. My phone came with 4.2.2 software version 1.10.605.8
I should be okay to do rumrunner on that version right? I saw on the website it was listed. Does anyone have a good youtube video on using rumrunner (on Windows) to link me since I'm an HTC noob coming from Samsungland?
I'm not crazy about the button placement, lack of a menu button, and losing .3" of screen but I'm so far loving this phone and won't miss the S4 once it's gone.
Not gonna lie, it's super easy. You don't need a video. You basically hit enter a couple times. Just follow the written directions
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[Q] help Root SCH-i535PP on 4.4.2

Ive been searching night and day trying to find a way to root my galaxy S3 (SCH-i535) running 4.4.2 . Ive come up empty handed and as may know TOWEL ROOT DOES NOT WORK ON THIS BUILD. The most progress I have made is unlocking developer options with 7-tap doctrine. (haha) So this is pretty much a "calling all car" for those out there who are well versed in the art of rooting and all things $ sudo.
Info on safely reverting to an android OS that is rootable would also be useful.
l or any knowledge about the SCH-I535PP on 4.4.3 (pre paid verizon Galaxy S3) and exploits discovers .
Im lightly knowledgeable in Terminal, soooooo. If any one knows some work arounds or anything that would at least make me smile please feel free to write.
Tell me me what you all know and restore my faith in the power of the internet community.
much love,
-Lifehertz
ive also been looking
ive also been looking to root my phone also. all ive been able to dig up is possible roms that might be flashable with this model. and help would be greatly appreciated!
I knew I wasnt alone.
For some reason i have faith that someone is working on getting this phone rootable.
Until then lets keep the conversation going.
Do you have any links to these rims. Also, what are your thoughts?
I want root too because this phone is not compatible with samsung gear apps for my neo...very heartbreaking. ..wanted to put more apps on my watch but can't because this verizon galaxy s3 prepaid is not updated like all the other ones.....
Hey guys, I'm just posting to join in the misery. I feel like a hero for getting past the activation setup wizard! I have spent many hours researching how to root this stupid phone, and at this point its my white whale. There will be a way eventually, and this thread can be our anchor when that day comes. If anyone has a problem with the setup wizard, let me know.
The white whale under my friend.
Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
Because if it has been a short amount of time then the true developers and root wizards
Probably haven't had much need or want to work on a root for this phone.
I am noticing though after walmart dropped the price of the phone severely
And christmas came around. There are a Lot of new SCH-I535PP users. So maybe if we keep asking around and raising awareness about this build needing root, then a root genie will hear the cries of the community and get to work granting us our wish.
Verizon really locked this up with the recent update. This phone is two years old and there are many stronger phones coming out the root gods are focusing on blessing. But, its not hard to see that the SCH-I535PP is fantastic tool for its price point.
Please, anyone who reads this and is well versed in rooting phones, please do the SCH-I535PP community a solid and help us step out from being the prison bars of 4.4.2.
Thank you for letting me ramble. I hope it helped keep the spirit alive. Haha
Disclaimer: I'm an android noob, and everything in this post could be wrong. I'm just trying.
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Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
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I know that version of kitkat was released on June 2nd, 2014, if that helps.
I don't understand whether ALL sch-i535 after that date are blocked from rooting, or ONLY the sch-i535pp (prepaid) version. I've read conflicting things because the circumstances change over time, but the threads on forums stay the same. What was true 5 months ago might not be true anymore.
I believe (could be wrong) that every single phone that was updated after June 2nd is completely SOL and blocked from being rooted. I think Towelroot was the last thing that worked for anybody, and even that method is lost to ANYTHING with a Kernel date of June 3rd or later. Mine is July 22nd. I believe the truth is that the vast majority of people that are rooted are just not updating to KitKat because they know it will un-root them and the party is over. I think that anyone with a phone that is old but updated to kitkat can reset to factory and get back to JellyBean or whatever version they originally had that can be rooted. So that leaves a small, but growing population that just simply can't root because we have the newest galaxy S3s with late kernel dates off the shelf . It's just getting harder and harder to find exploits. They guy who wrote towelroot works for google now, finding/fixing exploits that he once used to hack phones.
Either the population will catch up with us 'un-rootables' or they will leave us behind as bigger and better things come along. The Galaxy S3 is (kind of) yesterday's problem. I'm just sayin.....
I truly hate to be the burden of bad news but I can't say I'm surprised by verizon finally locking down the S3. The contract version was rumored to have been locked down with a version past the last official OTA of 4.4.2 but it seems that the pp version was moved to 4.4.3 which in all seriousness was then locked down by big red
Going forward I'd stay away from verizon as far as phones go, the short version of this is the fact that they will try anything possible to lock down every android phone they can
My S3 running BlissStalk
Damn it. The mutiny. The injustice!
Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?
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Any suggestions?
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Don't bother with the Aquos Crystal. It's such a great phone for the price, but it hasn't been rooted yet. I have one, and I enjoy it for the stock.
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Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?
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Sadly I don't off hand no, I moved over to straight talk and thankfully can get almost any phone I'd like. I'm currently debating on a Nexus 5
My S3 running BlissStalk
I Have An Idea!!!!!!!!
How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.
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How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.
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If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
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If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
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I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
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I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
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On the S3 I've been around here and seen many people do just that. While it may be an option on other devices even the VZW S5 it will not work on the S3
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I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol
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I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol
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While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
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While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
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And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.
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And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.
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I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
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I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
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I want to root this phone too. The kingroot 4.1 do not work phone just reboot.

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