Fix for Bluetooth streaming lag? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I'm getting really bad audio lag when streaming bluetooth from the N7. I have a high dollar pair of Siemens hearing aids with bluetooth curiosity of some a******e with an RPG and the VA. They pair up fine but the lag is unbearable. If this was just an unnecessary headphone issue it'd be no big deal, but I need an 80db bump to hear a vacuum cleaner running. Anyone know a fix to sync them up without reinventing the wheel? I REALLY don't want to go back to my iPad.

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Bluetooth Headset Suggestions for HTC Dash?

I currently have a 1 ear Samsung bluetooth headset, but it is inadequate for anything but phone calls.
I would like a bluetooth headset that is for both ears so that I can listen to music and especially podcasts without having to use the standard headset. I would also expect it to have a built in microphone.
I know the bluetooth in the HTC S620/S621 is not the newest available so I also don't want to aimlessly buy a headset and find out it isn't compatible with my phone.
Any suggestions on what I should buy?
Thank you,
Tim
I use Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 Bluetooth headset. I love 'em.
I like my Motorola S9. They got good sound and decent base for lil speakers. They never fall out. They have the following buttons; answer/hang up call, volume up and down, track forward/back (hold for fast forward/rewind), and play/pause. When consider sound quality, I like my music loud with a lot of base and why I have a 1000watt system in my car. Sure they are no where near that, but they make a good alternative for when listening to music on my cell. Plus I can walk like 100ft away from my cell before they loose connection. In my old 2 bedroom house I could walk around my whole house and nevr have my cell on me. Another plus, they use the same charger plug as the Dash (Mini-USB).
for BT headphones //// the jabra BT620's are good.
http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-BT620s-100-96200000-02-Bluetooth-Headphone/dp/B000FJ20CM
for a BT headset that has the ability to use 1 or both earbuds. the plantronics voyager 855 stereo bluetooth is a good choice...so you can walk with one or both earbuds in.
http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-V..._1_3?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1228156437&sr=1-3
Thanks for the input.
I decided to go with the Motorola S9. Some of the reviews at Amazon did make me hesitate a bit though.
I primarily use my phone for email, web browsing, music, and podcasts more so than talking. And from most of the Amazon reviews, many were not happy with the sound quality of the S9 during phone conversations.
The jabra option didn't seem to fare much better in that regards and was bigger.
On the plantronics 855 option, many stated it was great in sound quality for phone calls but was inferior to the Motorola for music and podcasts.
I didn't really look into the Sony option listed here though due to the price. It was one of the more expensive ones.
So anyways, this is now on my Amazon wish list to make Christmas shopping for my wife easier.
Glad to be of help and as for incall sound quality. I never had a complaint, been on the phone for hours on end with this thing and a lot better then having a cell against my head all the time lol. I hate being on the phone honestly but this headset made it a lot more tolerable. Actually just bought a USB Bluetooth Adapter for my pc to link these to it for music etc at night when people complain about loud music lol. Especially with that joggr volume issue on the Dash lol. Good luck with your Chrismas gift.

Plantronics Backbeat 903+ BT headphones review and latency

Hi all,
I bought a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903+ headphones yesterday.
Thought I'd put a quick review and warning for anyone that is thinking of using BT headphones for anything that is latency sensitive.
I will use them mainly for music. Probably rarely for phone calls unless I happen to be listening to music when I get a call.
Sound quality is quite good. They sound fuller and not as harsh as the stock headphones that came with the Note.
Better than I expected, but there is a lack of highs. It was very noticeable when compared to my cheap, corded, Philips SHL9500 foldable headphones that I usually travel with.
Had to nudge the highs up in the EQ of Power Amp to be able to hear the treble well.
Range is better than I expected too. I'm just in a small apartment, but I could walk all around the room and into the next room and around the corner (losing line of sight), with no noticeable difference in sound. This was further than the 10m range they claim.
I also put the phone in my jeans pocket and it continued to work fine. I'd read some reviews complaining that it needed line of sight or would drop out, but no such problems for me.
Battery life is awesome on these. They claim a full charge will last 7 hours. I used them for 3-4 hours last night.
When I turned them on this morning, they said they had 5 hours remaining. I probably wasn't listening constantly over the 3-4 hours last night as I was starting and stopping apps, so that is probably about right.
Also, when you turn them, a voice announces how many hours the battery has left which is handy since there is no visual indicators.
Comfort for me was very good. I had them on for almost 4 hours last night and didn't notice them most of the time. Although when I took them off, my ears were a little sore from the buds being in there, but with most in ear phones my ears get sore sooner than that and I notice it whilst they are still in there.
Note that the cord between each ear is quite short and only just reaches around my head. I can fit 2 fingers between the cord and my head, but only just, and I have a shaved head. I also tried on the Jabra Sports in the shop, but they didn't feel as comfortable to me, and also the cord was quite a bit longer and I thought it may get in the way or get caught on something when exercising. So best to try them on in a shop to check if they fit your head.
One thing I didn't realise about bluetooth headphones is that they introduce latency. It seems to be about 500ms.
You can test the latency by connecting the BT headphones and then changing your ring tone. When you audition different ring tones it will play them through both the phone speaker and the headphones, and you will hear the lag.
In addition to listening to MP3s, what I primarily wanted them for was for music apps and recording, so that I wouldn't have a cord getting in the way, or have to be restricted to the length of the cable.
It's not too big a deal with the multi track programs I use (Loopstack and Audio Evolution mainly, with FourTracksPro) as I can adjust the latency, but it means I have to change it depending on whether I'm using the BT headphones or not).
But for apps that require live input and monitoring (like drum, guitar, piano apps that you play and want to hear yourself playing live), the latency makes them not really useable.
I can still use these headphones to record guitars and vocals through the Note's microphone, but I just need to adjust the latency which is annoying.
Any music app that is program/sequence based like Caustic or Easyband, is not too much of a problem as you don't really notice the latency, apart from the fact that what you see on the screen is slightly out of sync with what you hear.
Also for games that require the audio to be in sync with the screen, the 500ms is not really useable (I have a game called Beats, which is a rhythm game and you need the screen and audio to be in sync).
For video, though using the stock video player, it is in sync, so there must be some latency compensation going on in the software which is good.
When I tried youtube, using the youtube app, it is out of sync at the start, but then it gets into sync, so there is some kind of buffering or compensation giong on there too.
So, if it's just listening to music or watching video is what you want them for, I thin they are really good.
If you want to use them for games or music apps that will be negatively impacted by the latency, then you are probably better off sticking with corded headphones.
I will probably end up carrying corded phones with me when I travel for the times when I don't want any latency.
But for walking around, exercising, just casual use, the Backbeat 903+ headphones are really good and am happy to be free from a cord for those situations.
Cheers,
Rich
good review...I was planning to pick one up.
richlum said:
Hi all,
I bought a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903+ headphones yesterday.
Thought I'd put a quick review and warning for anyone that is thinking of using BT headphones for anything that is latency sensitive.
I will use them mainly for music. Probably rarely for phone calls unless I happen to be listening to music when I get a call.
Sound quality is quite good. They sound fuller and not as harsh as the stock headphones that came with the Note.
Better than I expected, but there is a lack of highs. It was very noticeable when compared to my cheap, corded, Philips SHL9500 foldable headphones that I usually travel with.
Had to nudge the highs up in the EQ of Power Amp to be able to hear the treble well.
Range is better than I expected too. I'm just in a small apartment, but I could walk all around the room and into the next room and around the corner (losing line of sight), with no noticeable difference in sound. This was further than the 10m range they claim.
I also put the phone in my jeans pocket and it continued to work fine. I'd read some reviews complaining that it needed line of sight or would drop out, but no such problems for me.
Battery life is awesome on these. They claim a full charge will last 7 hours. I used them for 3-4 hours last night.
When I turned them on this morning, they said they had 5 hours remaining. I probably wasn't listening constantly over the 3-4 hours last night as I was starting and stopping apps, so that is probably about right.
Also, when you turn them, a voice announces how many hours the battery has left which is handy since there is no visual indicators.
Comfort for me was very good. I had them on for almost 4 hours last night and didn't notice them most of the time. Although when I took them off, my ears were a little sore from the buds being in there, but with most in ear phones my ears get sore sooner than that and I notice it whilst they are still in there.
Note that the cord between each ear is quite short and only just reaches around my head. I can fit 2 fingers between the cord and my head, but only just, and I have a shaved head. I also tried on the Jabra Sports in the shop, but they didn't feel as comfortable to me, and also the cord was quite a bit longer and I thought it may get in the way or get caught on something when exercising. So best to try them on in a shop to check if they fit your head.
One thing I didn't realise about bluetooth headphones is that they introduce latency. It seems to be about 500ms.
You can test the latency by connecting the BT headphones and then changing your ring tone. When you audition different ring tones it will play them through both the phone speaker and the headphones, and you will hear the lag.
In addition to listening to MP3s, what I primarily wanted them for was for music apps and recording, so that I wouldn't have a cord getting in the way, or have to be restricted to the length of the cable.
It's not too big a deal with the multi track programs I use (Loopstack and Audio Evolution mainly, with FourTracksPro) as I can adjust the latency, but it means I have to change it depending on whether I'm using the BT headphones or not).
But for apps that require live input and monitoring (like drum, guitar, piano apps that you play and want to hear yourself playing live), the latency makes them not really useable.
I can still use these headphones to record guitars and vocals through the Note's microphone, but I just need to adjust the latency which is annoying.
Any music app that is program/sequence based like Caustic or Easyband, is not too much of a problem as you don't really notice the latency, apart from the fact that what you see on the screen is slightly out of sync with what you hear.
Also for games that require the audio to be in sync with the screen, the 500ms is not really useable (I have a game called Beats, which is a rhythm game and you need the screen and audio to be in sync).
For video, though using the stock video player, it is in sync, so there must be some latency compensation going on in the software which is good.
When I tried youtube, using the youtube app, it is out of sync at the start, but then it gets into sync, so there is some kind of buffering or compensation giong on there too.
So, if it's just listening to music or watching video is what you want them for, I thin they are really good.
If you want to use them for games or music apps that will be negatively impacted by the latency, then you are probably better off sticking with corded headphones.
I will probably end up carrying corded phones with me when I travel for the times when I don't want any latency.
But for walking around, exercising, just casual use, the Backbeat 903+ headphones are really good and am happy to be free from a cord for those situations.
Cheers,
Rich
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Thanks for the reviews. I am looking for ones to go to the gym.
I actually own the same model. Owned the previous model up until i wore it out. It's a perfect set of bt headphones to work out with and it's discreet when wearing it around. It fairs well functionality-wise; haven't had an issue with my note.
Thanks for the review.
I have just bought my Note2 and Plantronics 903+ and as i am a normal user (phone calls and music) it is really awesome.
But I have few issues with this and i need your confirmation
1) The Music forward and backward buttons doesn't change the music track? I have my corporate mail and hence have set up PIN lock in my phone. Is that dur to auto locking of phone with PIN or the Bluetooth buttons are not compatible with Samsung Note2?
2) While making calls outside, the noise cancellations is pretty good, but at times i hear some disturbing sound/noise in the call and i am pretty sure it is only through the Bluetooth i hear the noise.
The forward and back buttons work on my Note 2.
You have to hold them for a few seconds otherwise they just do volume up and down.
I'm using N7 player.
I notice that the headphones get A LOT of wind noise when outside. I notice it a lot when riding my bicycle. But, also when just walking.
I've since bought a pair of Jabra Halo 2 and use them most of the time now. They are more comfortable and sound better. Plus, I can connect them with a cord for zero latency.
I use the Plantronics if I'm going to be sweating a lot.
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Nice review and good advice for all potential buyers. However, I feel a clarification about BT latency is in place. Not all bluetooth headsets introduce so much lag. I'm an avid Motorola S10 user and altough some delay is present, it's nowhere near the 500ms OP estimated for the Plantronics set. In fact, even rhytm games like Tapsonic are still playable on the S10, which leads me to believe the delay is more around the 50ms mark. Huge, half-second lag seems to be more a sign of bad implementation by the manufacturer than limitation of the bluetooth standard. Let's not forget that Playstation 3's joypad uses BT technology, but it's implemented so well that tests found it to be practically lagless down to less then a frame ([email protected]) compared to wired connections.
Is that low latency for media playback, or phone calls?
When you connect BT headphones to your phone (or PC) they make 2 connections. 1 for phone calls and 1 for media playback.
Both of my BT headphones have low latency for phone calls because they use a lot lower quality when in phone mode.
But both have high latency for media playback mode. (ie. Anything other than phone calls)
The amount of data required for the BT controllers is a lot less than that required for stereo audio.

Bad mic quality with various headphones?

Does anyone have generally bad microphone quality with their sprint note 2?
When on wired headsets like the apple earpod or my ultimate ears, people say I sound like I'm under water and really hard to hear. Also, I sound fine when speaking directly into the phone without a headset
I'm on ProjectROM ultralight if it matters. I'm wondering if the various sound enhancing programs like dolby are screwing up the mic quality.
Thanks!
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Wired mics on headsets are notorious for having bad feedback issues. It has to do with the speaker and mic wires passing so close to each other and the EMF bleed over
I like to break stuff!
Are bluetooth headsets better for this phone? If so, I'll go that route.
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chuhsi said:
Are bluetooth headsets better for this phone? If so, I'll go that route.
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Yeah BT doesnt have wires passing right next to each other causing feedback from the EMF bleed over (signal hop) just make sure you buy a decent BT headset. Anything less than around $40 is junk and will sound terrible to you, the other party or both. Blueant and jawbone make some of the best but they are $80+ up to about $200 for a good midrange I'd go with Motorola I've never had an issue with any of their $40-60 price range headsets.
Edit: I'm currently using a jabra that was like $35 after I stepped on my 3rd jawbone. It works well as long as the phone is on me or close by it gets kinda distorted if I get 10'-15' from my phone but as long as its near me it works great, and since I usually don't let it out of my sight its not really an issue. I noticed the distortion at home one day when I left my phone on my desk and walked away for something and it started getting staticy and garbled sounding once I made it about 15' from the phone. But there was also alot of interference in the area since the phone was in my office and there's about 20 other bluetooth items sync'd in there for my computers
I like to break stuff!
problems with sound for calls
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Yeah BT doesnt have wires passing right next to each other causing feedback from the EMF bleed over (signal hop) just make sure you buy a decent BT headset. Anything less than around $40 is junk and will sound terrible to you, the other party or both. Blueant and jawbone make some of the best but they are $80+ up to about $200 for a good midrange I'd go with Motorola I've never had an issue with any of their $40-60 price range headsets.
Edit: I'm currently using a jabra that was like $35 after I stepped on my 3rd jawbone. It works well as long as the phone is on me or close by it gets kinda distorted if I get 10'-15' from my phone but as long as its near me it works great, and since I usually don't let it out of my sight its not really an issue. I noticed the distortion at home one day when I left my phone on my desk and walked away for something and it started getting staticy and garbled sounding once I made it about 15' from the phone. But there was also alot of interference in the area since the phone was in my office and there's about 20 other bluetooth items sync'd in there for my computers
I like to break stuff!
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any solution to improve the lack d enitidez sound of llamdas?, medium sharpness in sound- Thanks

Bluetooth Wireless Headset

I am a sales rep and spend most of my day on the phone, whether it be while at my desk or in the car. I usually hold my phone to my ear when I'm at my desk (which restricts me from using hands) and when I'm in the car I use the Samsung earphones.
I've tried BlueAnt sets for my car but they always either have problems connecting to my phone, bad sound quality, bad battery life, or all of the above.
Just wondering if a good alternative would be a bluetooth wireless headset, and if so, which one should I go for?
Are these good for sound quality and battery life?
I would imagine they wouldn't be the best with background noise but I'm usually in quiet environments while on my phone so this isn't so much of a problem.
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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I'd recommend the sony sbh20 if you want to listen to music and have a handsfree headset. Despite connecting with bluetooth, the sound quality is exceptional, and the connection is very stable (I can answer calls when my phone is 10 metres away or in another room).
Has anyone had experience with the Sony SBH20? That looks like it may do the job and also be used for music at the gym...
I use the Motorola SD-10 and love them. They can answer a phone call, have volume control, can skip to next track or fast forward, and can pause and play music.
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jonno92 said:
Has anyone had experience with the Sony SBH20? That looks like it may do the job and also be used for music at the gym...
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I have one, and it's great. I don't have to lug my phone around in my pocket and keep it in my bag, and it's great for running as well because you don't get tangled in your earphone wires :good:
i never try this before

Headphone and microphone bluetooth adapter

I often stream games on Nvidia Shield and talk to people on Team Speak 3 and Skype. I don't want to annoy people with my audio, but I want to hear the game. What is a good microphone to Bluetooth adapter that I can use?
why not just get a Bluetooth headset?
Nanosuituser059 said:
I often stream games on Nvidia Shield and talk to people on Team Speak 3 and Skype. I don't want to annoy people with my audio, but I want to hear the game. What is a good microphone to Bluetooth adapter that I can use?
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Hands down, turtle beach px5. Pricey but worth it!

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