Hello All,
I am trying to root my friend's htc desire with uninvoked 3.32 but stuck on "running root" step.I have followed the exact instruction in this link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788044&highlight=running) and it does all the steps mentoined but will stuck in last step i think after rebooting it says "running root" and my device hangs, nothing happends.I have to pull battery to boot again.
My friend bought it second hand and interestingly in hboot it says S-Off but there is no root.I have tried different unrevoked version 3.14,3.21 but they give other errors than "running root" on last reboot while it was about to run root script.It gets past through 1st reboot with pushing recovery,hboot,rebooting etc but won't root at last moment.
So how can i root this device? Do i need to root if hboot says S-Off to install recovery and custom roms? I am not so noob as i have xperia arc rooted and flashed custom roms and have knowledge of CWM recoveries,flashtool,fastboot etc.But i am new to HTC devices.so please help me to root this device.
Hehe not so noob, but still post question in Q&A? (Don't worry i've requested it to be moved )
Anyway, since the phone is already s-off, is there a recovery already installed? Boot into hboot (vol down + power), wait, then volume down to recovery, and press power to select.
If it doesn't have a recovery installed, install 4EXT from here
If you need to root the existing ROM, to say backup certain things, then you need to flash a superuser.zip
However, if you want to just install a custom ROM, just full wipe and flash a ROM like you would before, you don't need to root it first, as the custom ROM will wipe everything, and will already be pre-rooted
eddiehk6 said:
Hehe not so noob, but still post question in Q&A? (Don't worry i've requested it to be moved )
Anyway, since the phone is already s-off, is there a recovery already installed? Boot into hboot (vol down + power), wait, then volume down to recovery, and press power to select.
If it doesn't have a recovery installed, install 4EXT from here
If you need to root the existing ROM, to say backup certain things, then you need to flash a superuser.zip
However, if you want to just install a custom ROM, just full wipe and flash a ROM like you would before, you don't need to root it first, as the custom ROM will wipe everything, and will already be pre-rooted
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Hehe, ya really sorry for wrong section post. I just realized it now.
I think i saw a recovery option in hboot while doing root process.Not sure but i will check it tomorrow when i meet my friend. I installed supersu from market to check if it's rooted but while opening, it gave a binary su error message which means it's not rooted.
So if a device has S-Off mentioned in hboot then it's already S-offed? No need for S-Off process? I can flash custom ROMs from recovery?
Thankx for the reply.It cleared a lot of doubt for htc deivice.
shoeseat said:
Hehe, ya really sorry for wrong section post. I just realized it now.
I think i saw a recovery option in hboot while doing root process.Not sure but i will check it tomorrow when i meet my friend. I installed supersu from market to check if it's rooted but while opening, it gave a binary su error message which means it's not rooted.
So if a device has S-Off mentioned in hboot then it's already S-offed? No need for S-Off process? I can flash custom ROMs from recovery?
Thankx for the reply.It cleared a lot of doubt for htc deivice.
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Yes, once you have s off you dont have to s off again. Like eddie said, you can use your custom recovery (if you have one) to either flash a superuser zip to root the stock ROM or flash a custom ROM that will come prerooted.
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Thankx a lot guys.There was a stock recovery but i installed 4ext and supersu as youguys said.Now it's rooted with custom recovery.I can move forward with other stuffs now.
Thankx a lot for getting started with this htc device flashing
Hello guys,
Need some help needed again.After installing recovery and rooting i was trying to flash custom roms.Currently my device have stock froyo 2.2.2 with kernel 2.6.32.15,baseband 32.49.00. I tried to get ext partition but seems it needs init.d support which is not in stock rom. AFter some search i found this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710980 but seems there is no post_boot.sh in this rom and didn't understand what it's trying to say.
So my last option was to install custom rom but stuck on one doubt. If i want to install froyo rom like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310 or gingerbread rom like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453287, do i need to flash kernel? There is not description on first post to flash recommended kernel for ROM page i visited.For my xperia arc ROMs, ROM developer explains on what kernel to user before install.So this is a bit confusing on htc device.
Can i intall different froyo,GB,ICD,JB ROMs without needing to flash kernel.Is this 2.6.32 kernel be used for all ROMs in this forum?Can you recommend a custom rom for my kernel for testing?
Easiest way is to install a custom ROM straight away, don't bother in any addition of init.d etc.
All ROMs here come with a compatible kernel, no matter what android version
You can flash different kernels after you flash the ROM, but you have to check compatibility.
In short: personally wouldn't bother with any Froyo ROM. The GB ones are more stable generally, still a good amount of use and activity, so if this is what if important I'd recommend this. Wouldn't bother with ICS, as development moved on to JB. With JB your mileage may vary considerably, e.g. with stability / camera etc.
Try a few, see what you like, be happy there's still plenty of choice for such an old phone!
eddiehk6 said:
Easiest way is to install a custom ROM straight away, don't bother in any addition of init.d etc.
All ROMs here come with a compatible kernel, no matter what android version
You can flash different kernels after you flash the ROM, but you have to check compatibility.
In short: personally wouldn't bother with any Froyo ROM. The GB ones are more stable generally, still a good amount of use and activity, so if this is what if important I'd recommend this. Wouldn't bother with ICS, as development moved on to JB. With JB your mileage may vary considerably, e.g. with stability / camera etc.
Try a few, see what you like, be happy there's still plenty of choice for such an old phone!
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Thankx for quick reply. So if i install this GB ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453287,do i have to flash it's kernel or stock one works?Do all roms inculde kernel to flash or do i have to search compatible one for it?
Also flashing new kernel delete hboot and recovery or it won't affect?kernel is standalone from hboot and recovery? I am asking this since in xperia phone recovery is incuded in kernel.
shoeseat said:
Thankx for quick reply. So if i install this GB ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453287,do i have to flash it's kernel or stock one works?Do all roms inculde kernel to flash or do i have to search compatible one for it?
Also flashing new kernel delete hboot and recovery or it won't affect?kernel is standalone from hboot and recovery? I am asking this since in xperia phone recovery is incuded in kernel.
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The ROM comes with a kernel, so you don't have to flash one separately.
Flashing kernels and ROMs won't touch your recovery or hboot.
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shoeseat said:
Thankx for quick reply. So if i install this GB ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453287,do i have to flash it's kernel or stock one works?Do all roms inculde kernel to flash or do i have to search compatible one for it?
Also flashing new kernel delete hboot and recovery or it won't affect?kernel is standalone from hboot and recovery? I am asking this since in xperia phone recovery is incuded in kernel.
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Like I said, kernels come packaged within a ROM. You can flash a different compatible one if you want to after you flash the ROM, but it's not necessary. Remember compatibility is key here, so for instance you can't flash a sense kernel on a non-sense ROM.
Flashing a kernel doesn't touch hboot or recovery, it just replaces the boot.img inside /system.
With that ROM, it's best to change hboot before you flash the ROM for optimal internal memory, should be compatible with cm7r2 hboot from alpharev.nl, recommend to learn to flash it using fastboot.
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Like I said, kernels come packaged within a ROM. You can flash a different compatible one if you want to after you flash the ROM, but it's not necessary. Remember compatibility is key here, so for instance you can't flash a sense kernel on a non-sense ROM.
Flashing a kernel doesn't touch hboot or recovery, it just replaces the boot.img inside /system.
With that ROM, it's best to change hboot before you flash the ROM for optimal internal memory, should be compatible with cm7r2 hboot from alpharev.nl, recommend to learn to flash it using fastboot.
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Thankx for this valuable info.I am very patient on learning first and flashing when i fully understand what i need to do.And since it's my friends phone,i don't want to brick it .Any chance of brick with wrong kernel or hboot flash? :silly:
Also in current recovery 4ext,i keep getting '/system' is read only and need to format all partition warning popup.Is this due to stock rom or something wrong with recovery.Also can i install cm7r2 hboot 'PB99IMG_cm7r2.zip' like you explained in first post? Copy it to root sd card and boot to hboot and it will ask of update recovery? or i need to flash it? I need to use cm7r2 hboot if i need to flash Cynogenmod based roms like CM7,CM10.1 etc? For stock rom i use Bravo Stock and for sense roms i use Bravo Sense from AlphaRec site?
Can i use this tool(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823315) to flash kernel/hboot etc?It's not outdated?
shoeseat said:
Thankx for this valuable info.I am very patient on learning first and flashing when i fully understand what i need to do.And since it's my friends phone,i don't want to brick it .Any chance of brick with wrong kernel or hboot flash? :silly:
Also in current recovery 4ext,i keep getting '/system' is read only and need to format all partition warning popup.Is this due to stock rom or something wrong with recovery.Also can i install cm7r2 hboot 'PB99IMG_cm7r2.zip' like you explained in first post? Copy it to root sd card and boot to hboot and it will ask of update recovery? or i need to flash it? I need to use cm7r2 hboot if i need to flash Cynogenmod based roms like CM7,CM10.1 etc? For stock rom i use Bravo Stock and for sense roms i use Bravo Sense from AlphaRec site?
Can i use this tool(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823315) to flash kernel/hboot etc?It's not outdated?
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Flashing kernels wont brick youre phone. I accidentally flashed a few sgs3 kernels when i was a little n00b, but this wont cause any permanent damage. The phone obviously wont boot, but after a full wipe and reinstall of a compatible kernel all should be fine. There is a chance however that flashing hboots could brick the phone, but its pretty low. You would have to flash a corrupted hboot, or disrupt the flashing.
I usually just ignore that 4ext warning. It pops up from time to time, but it should stop happening once youre done installing a new hboot/wiping/flashing a rom. You can flash an hboot using the PB99IMG method as well (its easier than fastboot). Download the PB99IMG_cm7r2.zip from alpharev.nl and flash it using this very straight forward guide. And no, you dont just use cm7r2 hboot just because a rom is cm. cm7r2 will only work if the system size of the rom is less than 145mb. For mildwilds cm-8.0 JG it will work fine. Dont use that tool for flashing the hboot...use the guide i linked.
Chromium_ said:
Flashing kernels wont brick youre phone. I accidentally flashed a few sgs3 kernels when i was a little n00b, but this wont cause any permanent damage. The phone obviously wont boot, but after a full wipe and reinstall of a compatible kernel all should be fine. There is a chance however that flashing hboots could brick the phone, but its pretty low. You would have to flash a corrupted hboot, or disrupt the flashing.
I usually just ignore that 4ext warning. It pops up from time to time, but it should stop happening once youre done installing a new hboot/wiping/flashing a rom. You can flash an hboot using the PB99IMG method as well (its easier than fastboot). Download the PB99IMG_cm7r2.zip from alpharev.nl and flash it using this very straight forward guide. And no, you dont just use cm7r2 hboot just because a rom is cm. cm7r2 will only work if the system size of the rom is less than 145mb. For mildwilds cm-8.0 JG it will work fine. Dont use that tool for flashing the hboot...use the guide i linked.
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Thankx a lot for all the help.I have successfully installed on of ruu stock gingerbread ROM .I flasehd kernel and rom zip both from 4ext recovery.One last question.While installing ROM zip at last it displayed some message about boot image. Does Rom zip flash it's kernel while installing ROM and we don't need to flash kernel zip separately?
shoeseat said:
Thankx a lot for all the help.I have successfully installed on of ruu stock gingerbread ROM .I flasehd kernel and rom zip both from 4ext recovery.One last question.While installing ROM zip at last it displayed some message about boot image. Does Rom zip flash it's kernel while installing ROM and we don't need to flash kernel zip separately?
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Each ROM has a kernel included. You don't have to flash a kernel separately.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Each ROM has a kernel included. You don't have to flash a kernel separately.
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Thankx a lot.This clears my doubt.
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So I now have Clockwork Recovery 3.x and running cm7. I tried straight flashing the latest T-Mobile ROM (1.22?).
It fails right away. I am not really wanting to unroot or turn S-ON. Is it failing because I am using cwr 3.x and need to flash the 2.x recovery? I thought I read somewhere that to flash a Froyo rom 2.x is needed, and 3.x is only for the GB roms...
Also, if and when I do successfully flash the stock rom, will this remove root/s-ff or the other unlocks gfree performed? And the linked thread for flashing the OTA rom instructs to rename to update.zip... is that only for the non-rooted folks?
And lastly, since the clockwork recovery 2.x has been out there for a while, thread info is quite old. Can i simply reflash the 2.x recovery using ROM Manager?
Thanks in advance.
The 1.22 is just an update zip it is not a complete PC10IMG stock rom that is why it is failing, make sure you have s-off via gfree before flashing a stock PC10IMG other wise it will turn your s-on, there is only a 1.19 complete PC10IMG rom out right now, this is pre OTA.
Yes you should be able to use rom manager to reflash older CWM recovery
Sent from my HTC Vision
fermunky said:
So I now have Clockwork Recovery 3.x and running cm7. I tried straight flashing the latest T-Mobile ROM (1.22?).
It fails right away. I am not really wanting to unroot or turn S-ON. Is it failing because I am using cwr 3.x and need to flash the 2.x recovery? I thought I read somewhere that to flash a Froyo rom 2.x is needed, and 3.x is only for the GB roms...
Also, if and when I do successfully flash the stock rom, will this remove root/s-ff or the other unlocks gfree performed? And the linked thread for flashing the OTA rom instructs to rename to update.zip... is that only for the non-rooted folks?
And lastly, since the clockwork recovery 2.x has been out there for a while, thread info is quite old. Can i simply reflash the 2.x recovery using ROM Manager?
Thanks in advance.
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Ill try to help a fellow tampa area guy out
the stock rom your trying to flash isnt going to work with CWM 3.XX your need to replace it with 2.XX. flashing a stock rom will not remove root or s-off.
when i go back and forth using CWM from 3.xx to 2.xx i follow these directions... there super easy... and i have never had a problem with it.
1. Install clockworkmod from market.
2. Flash Clockworkmod recovery from Rom Manager.
3. Navigate to clockworkmod/download/koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries (or where ever your recovery was downloaded to. This can be done in File Manager, Astro, or Androzip.
4. Mine was "recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.3-vision.img". Rename it to "recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.3-visionXXX.img" or something obviously different.
5. Download clockworkmod 3.0 from hereish:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893933
6. Move your recovery.img to clockworkmod/download/koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries and name it recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.3-vision.img
7. Go into ROM Manager and Flash Clockworkmod recovery, it will say its still 2.5.1.3 when your done. Reboot into recovery and you'll be welcomed by a new orange 3.0
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of course you can just reverse these directions to go back to 2.xx...
you shouldnt have to change the stock rom name to "update.zip" just flash the zip like you would any other rom through CWM...
Thanks WarBird! I think I'll just flash the recovery images using flash_image. Can you confirm what joemn said though? If I want to flash the stock ROM, do I need both the PC whatever and the ota?
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make sure you have s-off via gfree before flashing a stock PC10IMG other wise it will turn your s-on
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This doesn't make sense. Based on this, you're saying that if I have s-on, flashing pc10img will... turn s-on...?
fermunky said:
Thanks WarBird! I think I'll just flash the recovery images using flash_image. Can you confirm what joemn said though? If I want to flash the stock ROM, do I need both the PC whatever and the ota?
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This doesn't make sense. Based on this, you're saying that if I have s-on, flashing pc10img will... turn s-on...?
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You are misunderstanding me, what I am saying is if you rooted via the old method and don't have radio s-off via gfree flashing a stock PC10IMG will turn your s back on, and what I told you about the 1.22 update zip is correct.
Sent from my HTC Vision
Ah I see. Since I was late to the G2 game, I did use gfree to get s-off as mentioned in my op. Thanks!
Hi guys
I have a desire bravo that i updated to the new gingerbread ruu when it came out.
Sorry but i have a few questions. Im on holiday at the moment and im using my desire wifi hotspot to use the internet at the moment so i really dont want to mess it up.
1) I used the clockwork mod to S-off and install a custom recovery this morning.
I know that the S-Off worked and i manged to install the custom recovery as the superuser app has shown up in my menu and the hboot menu shows S-Off.
First thing i did was to do a back up that i have saved to my computer..
I then moved on to Root the rom and it showed as being complete
When i installed root check from the market i get some problems. The first is : Application superuser has stopped unexpectedly. I have to force close the app to continue. Root check then tells me that "Root Access is not properly configured or was not granted"
Anyone have any ideas about what i did wrong ???
2) if i cant root the rom should i just install a new custom rom. Does anyone know what is the best GB rom with a new sense (not bothered about what one) i should install. Not worried about App to sd yet as i thought if i start small with a stable rom then i can always change to a rom with app to sd built in at a later time once i get used to changing roms
Thanks for your help as i said i really dont want to brick the phone as i will lost internet access and will be stuck till i get home.
Thanks Guys
BTW big thanks to the clockwork guys for all there hard work
When your phone is s-off, you don't have to root it (or rather the os). So if the s-off process finishes (you cannot s-off with a recovery, so I assume you did it with revolutionary), just flash a rom with root access and you're done.
There is no "best rom". It depends on personal preferences. Just try.
yes i used the revolutionary way to s-off and install the recovery files and i have to say it works very very well very easy to understand
Thanks for the info about rooting the rom. I think i understand now
so can i install any rom now as i updated to the offical gingerbread ruu when it came out ?
If so can you recommend a good gingerbread rom with a newish sense on ?
rosscobley said:
yes i used the revolutionary way to s-off and install the recovery files and i have to say it works very very well very easy to understand
Thanks for the info about rooting the rom. I think i understand now
so can i install any rom now as i updated to the offical gingerbread ruu when it came out ?
If so can you recommend a good gingerbread rom with a newish sense on ?
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After you run the revolutionary process successful, flash a custom recovery with fastboot (how to use fastboot -> see my sig). I recommend 4ext or rmd. Now boot into recovery, make a full wipe and flash any rom you want (save important first). Just follow the given instructions in the corresponding thread.
For the sense rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
thanks guys. I think im going to give the AceSMod007-Lite (Sense2.1+3.0 GB ) a go as a lot of people recommend it. 1 quick question.
Can i install this rom even though i installed the offical RUU Gingerbread update and s-off'ed using revolutionary??
Thanks Guys
sorry one more question.
I did a backup of my rom via recovery. If i dont like the new Rom can i just restore to my standard rom via retore in recovery mode?
Yes, you can. Just wipe everything and restore. If you cannot to this, a backup would be senseless, don't you think?
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App
Thank you soooooooo much. I just flashed the rom and eveything is working perfect
my phone now shows that i have :
885 MB on Ext Partition
34.27 MB on /data
3.97 MB on /System
Does that sound right?
Looks fine.
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i've tried to install a kernel on my desire z with ckockwork recovery, but after reboot i still have the old kernel... :/
tried this one http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...or-desire-hd-z-and-mytouch-4g-overclock-cifs/ and that one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847672
stock rom
phone is rooted
gingerbread 2.3.3
kernel: 2.6.35.10
build number 2.42.405.2
graf_schokola said:
i've tried to install a kernel on my desire z with ckockwork recovery, but after reboot i still have the old kernel... :/
tried this one http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...or-desire-hd-z-and-mytouch-4g-overclock-cifs/ and that one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847672
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phone is rooted
gingerbread 2.3.3
kernel: 2.6.35.10
build number 2.42.405.2
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Are you fully rooted with s-off?
What steps did you take to install it?
What errors showed, if any?
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graf_schokola said:
i've tried to install a kernel on my desire z with ckockwork recovery, but after reboot i still have the old kernel... :/
tried this one http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...or-desire-hd-z-and-mytouch-4g-overclock-cifs/ and that one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847672
stock rom
phone is rooted
gingerbread 2.3.3
kernel: 2.6.35.10
build number 2.42.405.2
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Rather than that version of Unity, see here for the most up to date one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121937
i have s-on but unlocked it with htc's unlock bootloader. how do i get s-off?
You can't get s-off yet with that method, we still need to figure it out.
To flash a kernel, pull the boot.img from the zip you want to flash, and use fastboot mode and 'fastboot flash boot boot.img' to flash the kernel.
-Nipqer
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hey nipqer,
hey guys,
I'm a noob and whatI wanted to do is having root,
i've succeeded with the htc official boot unlocker (didn't knew it was that crappy)
and using supertool (with zergrush exploit method)
now that i'm less of a noob , I 've found out that I don't have s-off
so you are 100% positive when you're saying it's not possible to have it?
is it the reason why when I want to save my current rom in rom manager it shows me a red !
and tells me: “e:can't open /cache/recovery/command”?
I want to install a new kernel for overclocking, do you confirm that what you are saying is the only method for my situation?
"to flash a kernel, pull the boot.img from the zip you want to flash, and use fastboot mode and 'fastboot flash boot boot.img' to flash the kernel."
thanks a lot.
The red triangle with ! is the stock recovery.
The htcdev method keeps recovery and boot locked, unless you flash it via fastboot.
So pulling a boot.img and 'fastboot flash boot boot.img' is the only way
(though I have heard of someone working on a recovery to defeat protection, no idea how its coming along though)
-Nipqer
thanks a lot for your answer, so that's why I can't save with rom manager right?
another question before I flash my boot.img, because i want to be sure and I didn't found a clear answer yet..
can I get a boot.img extracted from any rom for Desire z ,i'm thinking about a virtuous unity for exemple...
will that work or do I have to get a special kernel?
do I risk a brick flashing that way?
thanks
Yeah that's why rom manager won't flash a recovery.
I really advise you to use the kernel that came with the rom.
Though most aosp kernels will work with other aosp roms, and same with sense (doubt sense 2 will work with sense 3.x and such like)
Also, you may have to replace certain files in the rom for everything to work (wifi, camera, etc)
There is no brick risk
-Nipqer
ok thanks
so you advice that I dont flash the kernel at all?
what I understand is that it's way too different from the original Rom, right?
I've got a couple more questions for you if you don't mind
what if it's from a ROM that's close to sense, like the VIRTUOUS SENSE ?
and is it possible to save my kernel as a backup or not ?
it's really a pain in the ass as I only want to overclock my DZ a bit...
And I really hope someone finds a solution for that S-ON problem with the official HTC unlocker...
thanks a lot again!
Well instead of flashing just a new kernel and staying on stock rom, I'd say change the whole rom.
Virtuous Sense is just an optimized stock rom, it is real nice if you want to stay as close to stock as possible.
Though the kernel should work, if you don't want to change rom.
As for backing up your kernel, you should be able to backup boot in recovery. It's just reflashing it which is a bit of an issue.
I'm pretty sure the next version of 4ext recovery will have a feature to allow boot.img to be flashed from recovery.
how do you mean, s-on problem? If you want to get s-off you can relock your bootloader, downgrade and run gfree
-Nipqer
ok then ,I have to agree on a whole new rom as well as it makes a lot more sense.
thing is ,for some reason I'd like to backup and be able to restore my original kernel, I like the idea of coming back to stock, so I guess I will wait for 4ext.
stupid question: is it possible to have several recoveries?
I mean I already have clockworkmod recovery.
I'm talking about the lack of S-OFF for the HTC official method (it was easy but it sucks) maybe I will find some time to apply the XDA method some day...downgrades kept me from doing it(yeah I know ,I'm not the same to feel that stupid
thanks
When you downgrade its only to exploit a loophole to let you permenently root your phone. Once rooted you will then be able to upgrade to many roms, all of which will be an upgrade. As for two recoveries not at the same time but you can always change to 4ext or what have you
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ok thanks for the reply...
for the recovery,it seems that with the 4ext updater tool even if I install a recovery from there, it's still clockworkmod...there is also 2 versions with newer recoveries for the pro one??
gonna flash it manually...
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Nipqer said:
Well instead of flashing just a new kernel and staying on stock rom, I'd say change the whole rom.
Virtuous Sense is just an optimized stock rom, it is real nice if you want to stay as close to stock as possible.
Though the kernel should work, if you don't want to change rom.
-Nipqer
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well ,I just flashed the boot.img alone form virtuous sense,It's nice because I have overclocking now
what isn't that nice is that it seems that the Wifi doesn't work any more...any idea?
A full wipe and reflash may cure your wifi problem
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thanks a lot,thing is I flashed the kernel only,so i guess it only works with a full rom install
I would have loved to find a kernel that's close to sense 2.1 with overclock...
The kernel may not fully be compatible with your rom, maybe try a similar custom rom with the kernel supported by the dev or try a diffrent kernel to flash over existing rom
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Sorry about the little bit of offtopic, but I think it will be alright if I ask it here...
So, how do you flash kernel? Is it just a .zip file that can be flashed from recovery (I have S-OFF)? And will that erase all my apps and data if I already use custom ROM?
Hey Guys,
Longtime no see.
Last Android I ran was a nook color that I flashed with gingerbread and that was a whole other kettle of fish.
I was donated a HTC Desire GSM and couldn't help myself and rooted it with unrevoked.
Then I updated the rom to Nikez Lentes ICS rom and I am very happy with it.
Now, I installed CWM and when it flashes it says that it is V5.0.2 but when I boot into recovery it is actually V2.5.0.
After a bit of reading I see that the author of the ROM and others and now using 4EXT Recovery so I bought that and went to give it a go but the S-ON is stopping it ( I booted into recovery and indeed it is S-ON currently ).
So reading up on how to turn ON to OFF I see unrevoked and alpharev have a solution for windows and linux only. ( I have VM windows and a raspberry pi linux ( but i assume the pi would be too underpowered to do this update))
I have read the wiki and read on the FAQ on this site that if you are not running the stock HTC rom that there could be an issue, is that correct ?
After all this, I am really just trying to make a Ext-SD partition on my SD card, cause the rom is like 120mb of the 140mb internal partition and I can't install enough apps to be happy.. lol.
I have the CWR image of V5.0.2 but am not sure really how to update it ( V2.5 is green text and V5.0 is blue so im sure I have the older version )
Or im happy to use 4EXT for my rom needs, but I need to change my S-ON to OFF to be able to flash the recovery and partition it that way.
If anyone can help that would be great, the whole setup has been rather painless and i'd like to keep it that way, I need the phone to work, but I would like to install more apps on the phone. The ROM also has a script built in so that is not the problem, just making a partition on the SD card really is what I need right now.
Thanks,
Steve
would it be because im currently S-OFF that I can't flash recovery above V2.5.0 or install 4EXT Recovery ?
Are you SON or SOFF ? Write down what your bootloader says.
1. Alpharev quote
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I dont know whether it will work with ICS though. I wouldnt try it since this is a bootloader mod. Maybe best to go stock rooted rom before running alpharev.
Revolutionary is the other option for getting soff.
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
steveb_123 said:
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
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Read my post. Best to go to a stock rooted rom before running alpharev. Thereafter flash 4ext. Partition your sdcard with 4ext. Flash rom of your choice.
Can I ask why it is better to go to a stock rooted rom ?
Installing the stock rom, and stock radio, to then run alpharev, to then root, to then install 4ext, sounds like a lot of work just to unlock the S-ON.
That is alpharev requirement. Read my first post.
Link for rooted stock romlink
Where does it say you need to run a stock rooted rom ?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
the stock rooted rom that is U (updated) seems to be pulled and this guy has a URL at the top saying he has pulled the rom due to internal XDA fights.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
My suggestion is to run 2.3 ruu from htc dev and then use revolutionary, two flies in one hit, s-off and custom recovery, and then flashing su over recovery. Though you'll get cwm recovery after first boot you'll be able to flash 4ext.
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Thanks for that nloooo,
I downloaded, unrar'd and unzipped the folder and can see the 2.3 RUU exe there, so I just run that in a windows machine ?
then rev, then reflash you are suggesting ?
is it worth trying revolutionary without returning to stock RUU and if it doesn't work, then installing the 2.3 RUU ?
It alk depends on hboit version your phone has. If it is 0.93 or 1.02 than it should work no matter which rom you have. I'm suggesting 2.3 ruu cause you'll get 1.02 hboot and you're good to go.
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My hboot is 0.93.
If 0.93 + revolutionary could work, I would prefer to do it that way because I am very green playing with android (mostly just use non-jailbroken apple gear) But I am loving the desire + ICS.
Thank you handy and nlooo for replying.
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
steveb_123 said:
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
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You can always try, if it doesn't work you won't have any problems phone will work the same.
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Thanks nlooo, you've been a huge help
Hi,
Ive done a quick search and cannot find a straight answer, i dont own HTC one x but need to modify a friends phone. as far as im aware they have a custom 4.1 rom and CWM etc.
Do i need to flash boot.img for every rom regardless of what it says on the post? some dont mention it... just want to be sure!
LOGMD said:
Hi,
Ive done a quick search and cannot find a straight answer, i dont own HTC one x but need to modify a friends phone. as far as im aware they have a custom 4.1 rom and CWM etc.
Do i need to flash boot.img for every rom regardless of what it says on the post? some dont mention it... just want to be sure!
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If the rom uses stock kernel, then no but you may lose ram disk tweaks for that rom.
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Basically, Yes. If you switch over to a different ROM you have to flash the new boot image. Sometimes the boot image is also updated with a new version of a ROM in that case you have to flash the new Boot Image too.
You can install rom without flash boot.img only if you device is S-Off.
If your are S-On, you have to flash boot.img everytime you install a new rom.
I have a Desire S-Off and i can flash which rom i want without flash boot.img.
For my Sensation XE, it's the same.
For my HOX, i have to flash everytime i change my rom.
totofe69 said:
You can install rom without flash boot.img only if you device is S-Off.
If your are S-On, you have to flash boot.img everytime you install a new rom.
I have a Desire S-Off and i can flash which rom i want without flash boot.img.
For my Sensation XE, it's the same.
For my HOX, i have to flash everytime i change my rom.
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No. No. No.
Some or most kernels and ROM's for the OneX are NOT set up to flash the boot.img in recovery precisely because there is no method to S-Off the phone. Devs have simply stopped implementing the method. I have no idea which ones can and cannot so err on the side NONE can and you cannot go wrong.
Always flash, in fastboot, the given boot.img for every ROM is the general basic rule.
Tigerlight said:
No. No. No.
Some or most kernels and ROM's for the OneX are NOT set up to flash the boot.img in recovery precisely because there is no method to S-Off the phone. Devs have simply stopped implementing the method. I have no idea which ones can and cannot so err on the side NONE can and you cannot go wrong.
Always flash, in fastboot, the given boot.img for every ROM is the general basic rule.
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If both roms are using stock kernel and on the same base and you don't mind losing the roms ram disk tweaks you really don't need to flash.
Same if you are using a custom kernel.
So long as the kernel/base match you would just need to flash the modules.
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If you use Android 4.2.2 with sense 5, you only flash boot.img one time and flash any rom except Alex-V's rom. Because still now, all sense 5 rom using stock kernek
If you flash cm, you must flash boot.img every time you flash difference rom
if your device already s-off and super-cid you flash rom normal no need flash boot.img except some rom not allow flash boot.img in update-script
Thanks all!
nightstorm8x said:
If you use Android 4.2.2 with sense 5, you only flash boot.img one time and flash any rom except Alex-V's rom. Because still now, all sense 5 rom using stock kernek
If you flash cm, you must flash boot.img every time you flash difference rom
if your device already s-off and super-cid you flash rom normal no need flash boot.img except some rom not allow flash boot.img in update-script
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Thanks for all the replies guys, given me a better insight to the method i should take with this phone when i get hold of the phone ill analyse the rom currently on there. i think its 4.1 with sense so ill do more homework and figure it out!:cyclops: