Hi all.
Just found this forum completly by accident, but damn, I'm glad I did!
However, there is such a wealth of inofrmation on here, I'm finding it tricky to filter out what I need at my level, so I thought I'd ask a couple of questions.
I have an Orange SPV M5000 that I have done nothing to except install some apps on it. I know there are rom upgrades available, including an official one from Orange. What is the best one to go for, and what exactly does it change? I've seen some posts regarding speeding up the speed in which the screen can rotate, but not noticed any posts on the speed of answering, which does seem slow on my M5000, especially if it's closed as I have to wait for the screen to come on, then rotate, and finally bring up the phone app before I can talk, will it help this?
What does the radio upgrade do? Is it a valuable upgrade or just a slight performance increase?
If I do any rom upgrades, will I need to do a complete re-install and setup from scratch?
What other things should I consider doing to generally increase the whole smartphone thing?
Thanks in advance for any help, there seems to be loads of people on here that have some valuable knowledge!
Squeaker
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ooooh dude, you got a lot to learn....
I will try to answer your questions.
I have done nothing to except install some apps on it.
THIS IS GONNA CHANGE, THE MORE YOU HOLD IT, THE MORE YOU INSTALL, THE MORE YOU INSTALL THE MORE YOU REALISE YOU DIDNT REALLY NEED IT.
I know there are rom upgrades available
THEY ALL HAVE AN UPGRADE RELEASED NOW.
What is the best one to go for
I THINK IMATE OR O2 ARE GENERALLY ACCEPTED. I USE IMATE. IF YOU CHANGE FROM ORANGE, YOU WILL BREACH YOUR WARRANTY.
what exactly does it change?
IT SHOULD SPEED UP THE ENTIRE OPERATION OF THE DEVICE, SPEED UP THE ANSWERING OF THE PHONE, AND SPEED UP THE SCREEN THE ROTATION, IN FACT, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FASTER, SMOOTHER AND MORE EFFICIENT.
THE RELEASE ACTUALLY PROVIDES PUSH EMAIL, SUCH THAT YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF YOUR EMAIL PUSHED/SENT TO YOUR DEVICE, RATHER THAN HAVING TO PRESS SEND/RECEIVE TO PULL THE EMAIL TO YOUR DEVICE.
BATTERY, BLUETOOTH AND RECEPTION RANGE IS ALSO BETTER.
speed of answering,
IT WILL SPEED UP YOUR ANSWERING, BUT THE BEST WAY IS TO DISABLE THE PHONE PAD THAT USES THE VIDEO CALLING FUNCTION, IF YOU DONT USE IT, DO A SEARCH AND CHANGE THE REGISTRY TO DISABLE THE PHONE PAD THAT USES VIDEO CALLS. IF YOU DO USE THE PHONE VIDEO CALL FEATURE, THEN THERE ISNT MUCH YOU CAN DO.
which does seem slow on my M5000, especially if it's closed as I have to wait for the screen to come on, then rotate, and finally bring up the phone app before I can talk, will it help this?
NOT IF YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE SO MANY STEPS, WHY DONT YOU JUST PRESS THE GREEN BUTTON ON THE HINGE WITHOUT OPENING THE DEVICE. OR ARE YOU CALL SCREENER? I ANSWER ALL MINE IF I CAN, SO I DONT NEED TO SEE WHO IS CALLING.
OTHER OPTION, LEAVE IT OPEN ALL THE TIME, AND DONT CLAM CLOSE IT.
ALSO, EXTEND THE PERIOD OF YOUR RINGING, SO THAT INSTEAD OF 10 SECONDS, EXTEND IT TO 30 SECONDS, IT WILL GIVE YOU MORE TIME TO ANSWER IT.
What does the radio upgrade do? Is it a valuable upgrade or just a slight performance increase?
IT IMPROVES RECEPTION, RANGE, QUALITY, AND SPEED OF ANSWERING. THE NEW ROM HAS THIS UPGRADE ANYWAY.
If I do any rom upgrades, will I need to do a complete re-install and setup from scratch?
YES, EVERYTHING IS TOTALLY WIPED OUT, SO SYNC YOUR DATA, COPY EVERYTHING TO AN SD CARD, AND NUKE IT TO START AGAIN.
What other things should I consider doing to generally increase the whole smartphone thing?
READ THE FORUMS, MONITOR THE POSTS, LURK AROUND FOR A WHILE. READ THESE POSTS:
get some of these:
www.spbsoftwarehouse.com particularly the backup
www.resco.net particularly the explorer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41968&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32698&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28343&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28127&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28022&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29677&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31331&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31911&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30460&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32262&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34838&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37067&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38253&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38192&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=218089&highlight=#218089
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39961&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41452&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44638&highlight=
This should give you enough reading, enough background knowledge, enough to be dangerous, but not enough for life to collapse around you.
If you need any more information in relation to your questions, ask.
Thanks loads for this, it's just the kind of response I was after!
I shall wade throught the links you've provided shortly, and I shall take the plunge with the rom upgrade soon too.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer everything, I shall lurk with renewed vigor.
Hi,
Recently purchased my M5000 and found the wealth of information in this thread very helpful.
Thanks!!
Matt
glad to help, i believe in the boomerang model, hope you guys do to.
BTTT
Just bought an MDA Pro so wanted to find this post easily again
Why does this phone have to be soft reset so often...
Why does it eventually lag and hang up all the time randomly? I tried so many different roms and they just all result to the same problems after a few weeks use.
Is there no way to make this phone reliable???
I am ranting because I missed my job opportunity with a really big company because my phone froze when they called me and didn't receive my voicemails till days later for what ever reason....
This was the one and only time I really didn't want my phone to hang up, and it had to happen when the company CEO decided to call me back, but since my phone was stupid I wasn't able to respond to the offer in time (2 days later)...
Please... I'm tired of these Windows Mobile Problems...
Dang, that was a bad break. srry that happened to You. dayuum..i know u was pissed. so did it freeze up on u with the stock rom or some custom one u flashed to it? i never had my stock rom freeze up on me. Only when i was constantly trying new apps and downloads or drivers, it tried to act funny. Id reapply for that position and if u get to the point of call back again, take it and try to explain what happened the first time. All isnt lost, just keep your head up and keep trying.
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i never had my stock rom freeze up on me. Only when i was constantly trying new apps and downloads or drivers, it tried to act funny.
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Me too. Anyway, wish you luck if you decide to call back CEO and explain whats happened.
SlimJ87D you got pm
Sue Microsoft for selling you software that's not fit for purpose. It could turn into a class action because I'd say that statement could well be true about lots of software they sell.
Having used the TP2 for half a year, I have had none of the problems you mention.
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Having used the TP2 for half a year, I have had none of the problems you mention.
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I have been using WM for almost 4 years and everything SlimJ87D mentions makes total sense to me
i've been using WM since 2003 (7years exactly this august) and i cant remember the last time my device has hung up on me where calls/msgs didn't come in.
Also i'm what you'd call a power user, multiple apps open at the same time and doing 3 things at once.
The majority of lock-ups are from low ram. So just make sure you ram is always good, doing a system cache/temp file clean every now and then (i use dinarsoft's memmaid) and you should be good.
Also sometimes a buggy software will cause the device to freeze, up to you to figure out which one it is if you suspect one.
Best of luck and sucks about that job.
About 2 years ago my exchange server went down without me knowing and wasn't getting emails, when they finally did come through the next morning, i had received an important email concerning a contract deal, called the person back and they had gone with a competitor because i didn't reply soon enough. Lost some money on that and still pissed about it but technology does that to us every now and then.
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I have been using WM for almost 4 years and everything SlimJ87D mentions makes total sense to me
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A lot depends on the phone model and how well you tweak it. I've not had any trouble once the phone was operating correctly. This is one thing that is both a drawback and an advantage of WM - it is flexible, and rewards anyone who takes the time to get to know the OS and the particular phone model.
If you really want "out of the box" experience with any tweaking, I'd go for a different OS.
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...all the time randomly?
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lol... .
SlimJ87D said:
Why does this phone have to be soft reset so often...
Why does it eventually lag and hang up all the time randomly? I tried so many different roms and they just all result to the same problems after a few weeks use.
Is there no way to make this phone reliable???
I am ranting because I missed my job opportunity with a really big company because my phone froze when they called me and didn't receive my voicemails till days later for what ever reason....
This was the one and only time I really didn't want my phone to hang up, and it had to happen when the company CEO decided to call me back, but since my phone was stupid I wasn't able to respond to the offer in time (2 days later)...
Please... I'm tired of these Windows Mobile Problems...
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Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???
Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?
And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.
If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.
This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.
I bet I could make an iPhone fail
MooGoo said:
Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???
Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?
And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.
If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.
This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.
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Totally agree with moogoo here. The voicemail issue isn't really a hardware issue as much as it is YOU not checking your voicemail or them having issues with there voicemail. Not calling the CEO back right away AFTER you reset your phone... I just couldnt imagine the phone freezing on me and not reseting it and calling the person back right away.
You havn't said whether you are running a stock rom or a custom rom on your phone. If it's stock and you are having these issues I would probably go to where you bought the phone and just have them give you a new one as I've never heard of people having that many issues with their phone. If its a custom rom, the only time I hear of people having the issues you are having is because after flashing their phone they didnt do a hard reset after the initial boot up to make sure everything installs properly. 9 times out of 10 if your phone freezes as much as it does you probably just need to do a hard reset.
Now, the comment about it locking up and what not... if it does it every few days, well guess what. It's a freaking computer! I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should. I usually turn those off every night or when I'm not using them. Now we cant just go ahead and turn our phones off at night that doesnt make sense BUT you can at least do a soft reset every now and again and it should speed things up. I know myself I do this at least every 2 days. Again... if it's being as glitchy as it is odds are you just need a hard reset. Try running one of NRG's roms as they seem to be the best out there, at least from the ones I've tried.
So moral of your story.... you need to hard reset your phone once if not twice after you install a new rom..... you need to check your voicemail even when it doesnt show you have missed calls.... you need to call people back immediatly after your phone crashes... dont just put the phone down and hope that it starts working again. They have the reset button on their for a reason!
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MooGoo said:
Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???
Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?
And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.
If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.
This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.
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Aaron McCarthy said:
Totally agree with moogoo here. The voicemail issue isn't really a hardware issue as much as it is YOU not checking your voicemail or them having issues with there voicemail. Not calling the CEO back right away AFTER you reset your phone... I just couldnt imagine the phone freezing on me and not reseting it and calling the person back right away.
You havn't said whether you are running a stock rom or a custom rom on your phone. If it's stock and you are having these issues I would probably go to where you bought the phone and just have them give you a new one as I've never heard of people having that many issues with their phone. If its a custom rom, the only time I hear of people having the issues you are having is because after flashing their phone they didnt do a hard reset after the initial boot up to make sure everything installs properly. 9 times out of 10 if your phone freezes as much as it does you probably just need to do a hard reset.
Now, the comment about it locking up and what not... if it does it every few days, well guess what. It's a freaking computer! I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should. I usually turn those off every night or when I'm not using them. Now we cant just go ahead and turn our phones off at night that doesnt make sense BUT you can at least do a soft reset every now and again and it should speed things up. I know myself I do this at least every 2 days. Again... if it's being as glitchy as it is odds are you just need a hard reset. Try running one of NRG's roms as they seem to be the best out there, at least from the ones I've tried.
So moral of your story.... you need to hard reset your phone once if not twice after you install a new rom..... you need to check your voicemail even when it doesnt show you have missed calls.... you need to call people back immediatly after your phone crashes... dont just put the phone down and hope that it starts working again. They have the reset button on their for a reason!
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Hey guys, sorry for the late response.
Well this is what happen. The CEO called me to talk to me about the job but at this very time my phone was frozen and hiccuping without my knowledge. When it does this it just rejects all my calls, but for some reason I never got the missed call or anything. It didn't even show up on screen. My phone randomly hiccups and when it does this everything is ignored, I won't get a missed call, it's like my phone is off. I didn't even get a voice mail message. When I checked my voicemail because one of my friends left me one after I ignored his call it finally gave me a message and it said I had 2 missed voicemails. I thought it was strange that he left 2 voice mails even though I only had his only miss call.. and then I realized he didn't leave 2 voice mails. I heard the voice of the CEO, he said for me to try and call him back. I checked the receipt and it was 2 days late! I called back right away.
I left him a voice mail back, but he left on a business trip and had to select someone else... which happen to be my classmate
And yes, it hiccups all the time. A large part of it is due to the amount of text I receive but not all the time. Under my GFs name we have about 1000s of text saved up and it causes the phone to lag sometimes.
Other lags and hiccups happen randomly when I'm trying to do simple things.
I know you guys are probably angry because I'm talking smack about our phones but please, I really wasn't expecting these kinds of problems with my phones. I'm not some kind of iPhone user disguised to troll.
Some of you guys don't' get the problem, yes you guys are lucky. Maybe have different models. But some of us here do.
Don't be quick to judge me so harshly. I'm only a guy here trying to set a realistic complaint because Windows Mobile should release updates more often, we deserve it, and you guys know we deserve it. By not complaining and pretending these problems don't exist gives Windows a right to not want to optimize their OS.
Thanks Lennzy for PMing me possible solutions to fixing my phone and not trying to give me some kind of life advice where you don't even know what happen.
The way the market is going right now, I just don't want to go through this again... it's such a bad experience... maybe it's fate, maybe I wasn't meant for the job and some other better company will call me. But for the time being I need to fix this phone or get a basic phone to just receive and give calls.
You got two new pm's
It's still prudent to check your voicemail at least once a day regardless of phone notifications. One good failsafe, if you can manage it, is to set things up so you automatically receive emails informing you of new voicemail (this is setup for me through Exchange at work, but I'm sure there are other ways).
As previously mentioned, the problems you are having are far from normal. I'm running a cooked ROM with all kinds of incredible hacks and tweaks, so much so that I'd expect the thing to break more often, but it is just as stable and usable as ever.
Not trying to give you life lessons, just pointing out one that you surely already learned.
Slim, are you in the US? If so, at least a temporary solution might be to use Google voice...it'll take over your voicemail functions, and can notify you via e-mail whenever you get a VM, and it'll even send you a transcript and a downloadable audio file of the message
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I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should
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Try Linux - my home server's been up for 3 months without issue and my misses laptop's often on for weeks
Honestly ever since XP I've had no problem leaving my Windows box running for long periods of time.
Most often the only reason it needs to be reset is because of some update.
Linux is not infallible in this matter. While the core OS is extremely stable, very often the window manager, especially Gnome and KDE can be very buggy and prone to crashing.
Of course it is easy enough to drop out of Xwindows and restart it without restarting the entire OS.
Ok what i am trying to do is reactivate the dial pad so i can call out on Google voice if it is possible. I see the mobile network and data in the es explorer. But they are both blocked. i love voice on my home PC. I know my friend with an android phone can use it the same as a regular phone call just like selecting a browser or media player. i was trying to make an app that dose it. I do have root. I am not asking anybody to do it for me but some pointers would be a great help.
PS if you did do it i would love to know how as i am learning how to add permitions and other hooks. this one is eluding me!
look into groveip. There is a thread about it in the apps area.
thank you but not what i was asking
As i said i was wondering where i can do it. I have seen the groove post before. It seams like a nice app but it dose not meet one requirement. I wanted to make it so i could change it.
Even if you do get a standard Android dialer to work(not even sure if it's really in Honeycomb), you'd still need the physical hardware to be present and working(definitely not in the WiFi version and unlikely in the 3G version without lots of work), hence the need for something like GrooveIP.
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Even if you do get a standard Android dialer to work(not even sure if it's really in Honeycomb), you'd still need the physical hardware to be present and working(definitely not in the WiFi version and unlikely in the 3G version without lots of work), hence the need for something like GrooveIP.
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again i want to do something similar to grove but i want control over the source so i can set it up. I want to be able to record incoming and out going calls on it. My Iphone wont let me do this and voice only dose it on incoming i want to be able to record all calls and since i broke my back at work i am long on time and short on money so thanks again for recommend of grove but it dose not do what i want it to
and i have reason for this.
i am asking if anybody knows where or how not an app.
to find the apk or how to add the service and fake it into thinking it has gsm or to reset the Dial as i believe that will be a good start
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again i want to do something similar to grove but i want control over the source so i can set it up. I want to be able to record incoming and out going calls on it. My Iphone wont let me do this and voice only dose it on incoming i want to be able to record all calls and since i broke my back at work i am long on time and short on money so thanks again for recommend of grove but it dose not do what i want it to
and i have reason for this.
i am asking if anybody knows where or how not an app.
to find the apk or how to add the service and fake it into thinking it has gsm or to reset the Dial as i believe that will be a good start
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Sounds like you're just kind of making up your own thing, better get to writing your own code.
I have a T-Mobile 7" Table that I really want to make calls from. I have my sim popped in, can send sms and mms from the factory messaging app. I can not figure out how to make calls for the life of me. I have searched high and low looking for answers. I found instructions how to do it on the first Galaxy Tab but no luck on the 3rd. Also I don't want to use something like voip I want to install a phone apk to use my mobile number. Can someone please point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance and thanks for all the hard work you guys do.
Anyone?
Also wanted to point out that the Secphone.apk is in device, system, then apps, but of course can not install or use. It seems like someone of some knowledge on this subject could figure it out. I mean the tablet shows a signal like a cellular phone and also shows the 4G LTE.
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Also wanted to point out that the Secphone.apk is in device, system, then apps, but of course can not install or use. It seems like someone of some knowledge on this subject could figure it out. I mean the tablet shows a signal like a cellular phone and also shows the 4G LTE.
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Also in similar predicament, bump.
Hi all,
TL;DR: can I port the original Samsung dialer (with call recording) to a custom ROM?
Long version: Ok so... I'm completely depressed because I've been trying to upgrade my now well overused S9 for a while, but I just CANNOT find a good replacement which has all my requirements and works properly in Canada. After trying out a few phones (and returning them all) I went back to my S9. But... I want to go the ROM route since the stock one is arguably dated. However, I have the dialer with call recording enable and I'd like to keep it on say, LineageOS. Reason being it can record calls while on Wifi Calling, which I am regularly, as opposed to other call recorders.
So... any advice for me? I'm spending too much time on this...