What is this fuss about inadvertent reversion to S-ON? - Verizon HTC One (M7)

Has VZW or HTC ever issued an update or other means by which they have remotely flipped the switch back to S-On? Why is there so much concern about this posted in various threads? Am I missing something?

godhamba said:
Has VZW or HTC ever issued an update or other means by which they have remotely flipped the switch back to S-On? Why is there so much concern about this posted in various threads? Am I missing something?
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There are a few who are worried. But overall there is nothing to be afraid of.
Just whatever you do, DON'T take any OTAs!

godhamba said:
Has VZW or HTC ever issued an update or other means by which they have remotely flipped the switch back to S-On? Why is there so much concern about this posted in various threads? Am I missing something?
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Basically, it is technically possible to turn a phone S-ON with an OTA. I don't believe it has ever been done however.
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GrayTheWolf said:
There are a few who are worried. But overall there is nothing to be afraid of.
Just whatever you do, DON'T take any OTAs!
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I was one of those worried. The only reason I had asked is because if I sent my phone in to get S-Off (which I'm pretty sure I will) and development never really takes off after that, I don't want to be stuck on 4.2.2 for the entirety of my time with this phone. I wanted to know if I COULD take that OTA at some point without bricking the phone. I was told if I changed the CID back to VZW__001, then I wouldnt brick if I did an OTA...

crazyg0od33 said:
I was one of those worried. The only reason I had asked is because if I sent my phone in to get S-Off (which I'm pretty sure I will) and development never really takes off after that, I don't want to be stuck on 4.2.2 for the entirety of my time with this phone. I wanted to know if I COULD take that OTA at some point without bricking the phone. I was told if I changed the CID back to VZW__001, then I wouldnt brick if I did an OTA...
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When 4.3 is released, a rooted version will be available within a day or two. There is literally no reason to take an OTA ever.
sent from my HTC one

m4rk0358 said:
When 4.3 is released, a rooted version will be available within a day or two. There is literally no reason to take an OTA ever.
sent from my HTC one
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That's what I figured. But better to know than not know
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The fuss is if your phone is ever turned back to S-ON after having been S-OFF, there is a high chance that it will instantly brick itself if you have loaded unsigned firmware onto the device.

If I go S-OFF, proceed to unlock boot loader, install clockwork mid recovery and just debloat my phone or flash a ROM, I should fear bricking if S-ON is switched back on?
CNexus said:
The fuss is if your phone is ever turned back to S-ON after having been S-OFF, there is a high chance that it will instantly brick itself if you have loaded unsigned firmware onto the device.
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godhamba said:
If I go S-OFF, proceed to unlock boot loader, install clockwork mid recovery and just debloat my phone or flash a ROM, I should fear bricking if S-ON is switched back on?
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but no, no worries with a custom ROM and recovery. Only for unsigned firmware, something like a custom hboot for example.

peteschlabar said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but no, no worries with a custom ROM and recovery. Only for unsigned firmware, something like a custom hboot for example.
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This is correct. If you flash an unsigned HBOOT and the flag goes S-ON somehow, the phone will refuse to boot because of the failed security check on the HBOOT. Besides that you're fine.

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Tester needed

Anyone brave enough to test an hboot that removed the development test on boot?
Requirements:
S-Off
fastboot knowledge
Brave soul
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Before flash
Durring flash
After flash
Video of boot
Files:
will be sent a link on pm
Commands to run:
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot flash zip hboot_nonag.zip
fastboot reboot-bootloader
I'm not s-off, but what does this do?
crazyg0od33 said:
I'm not s-off, but what does this do?
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When you're S-Off there's a little warning message that pops up on the splash screen on bootup, I'm guessing this gets rid of that. I am definitely not brave enough to try it, but it'd be cool if someone could confirm it worked.
PapaSmurf6768 said:
When you're S-Off there's a little warning message that pops up on the splash screen on bootup, I'm guessing this gets rid of that. I am definitely not brave enough to try it, but it'd be cool if someone could confirm it worked.
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Exactly that. If we wanted to we could add a custom message to it as well.
why not try and make a plug in for this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786498
unless it's been confirmed to not work on newer HTC devices?
It was a lot of fun playing with it on the HTC Inc4G LTE
unfortunately I don't know how to make the plug-in or I'd make one and try it when my phone comes back from Sonic.
andybones said:
why not try and make a plug in for this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786498
unless it's been confirmed to not work on newer HTC devices?
It was a lot of fun playing with it on the HTC Inc4G LTE
unfortunately I don't know how to make the plug-in or I'd make one and try it when my phone comes back from Sonic.
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I used it on my Sprint HTC One, but I think it was only for hboot 1.44
sofla2 said:
I used it on my Sprint HTC One, but I think it was only for hboot 1.44
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it has to be made for that specific phone and hboot.
otherwise you're asking for a brick
actually anytime you flash hboot you're risking a brick..
but we'd need someone to edit our current hbot and make a patch for this phone and this hboot.
andybones said:
it has to be made for that specific phone and hboot.
otherwise you're asking for a brick
actually anytime you flash hboot you're risking a brick..
but we'd need someone to edit our current hbot and make a patch for this phone and this hboot.
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Agreed any time you flash hboot you want to pray to your god that there's no power outages, the laptop battery will last, no one will trip on any cord between the computer and phone, cross your fingers and hold your breath. This one was pulled from my phone and modified so it is 1.54 for vzw.
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It is also noted if for any reason you s-on with a custom hboot you brick.
jmstumme said:
Agreed any time you flash hboot you want to pray to your god that there's no power outages, the laptop battery will last, no one will trip on any cord between the computer and phone, cross your fingers and hold your breath. This one was pulled from my phone and modified so it is 1.54 for vzw.
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It is also noted if for any reason you s-on with a custom hboot you brick.
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always ruu before you s-on for warranty purposes, most people do not need a custom bootloader unless it is part of an exploit
Updated with screenshots and videos
123421342 said:
always ruu before you s-on for warranty purposes, most people do not need a custom bootloader unless it is part of an exploit
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So it works then?
PapaSmurf6768 said:
So it works then?
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Works for me, I would like some testers before general. Release thought.
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PapaSmurf6768 said:
So it works then?
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I don't know how that relates to my comment. I was just letting people know there is no reason to flash a bootloader because of the HUGE risk of hard, hard brick and no benefits unless you are a hacker/developer. I am not unlocked but I would not try this anyway, no offense. What benefits does this carry? According to your pictures, this removed s-off and also locked the bootloader. Unless this removes all of those checks, it is stupid because we have no way to unlock.
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I don't know how that relates to my comment. I was just letting people know there is no reason to flash a bootloader because of the HUGE risk of hard, hard brick and no benefits unless you are a hacker/developer. I am not unlocked but I would not try this anyway, no offense. What benefits does this carry? According to your pictures, this removed s-off and also locked the bootloader. Unless this removes all of those checks, it is stupid because we have no way to unlock.
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Misquote, sorry. Meant to quote OP's post.
123421342 said:
I don't know how that relates to my comment. I was just letting people know there is no reason to flash a bootloader because of the HUGE risk of hard, hard brick and no benefits unless you are a hacker/developer. I am not unlocked but I would not try this anyway, no offense. What benefits does this carry? According to your pictures, this removed s-off and also locked the bootloader. Unless this removes all of those checks, it is stupid because we have no way to unlock.
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If you look closely there are a few extra spaces in those lines. Basically it makes it look like its s-on and locked. I've found that it's easier to walk into a verizon store and get help when they dont think you've unlocked. It also removed the nag string on the boot splash when you flash a custom rom. I've been using something like this on my rezound for over a year and from the ppl in that forum there was a want for it. Yes hboot is a very dangerous part if you don't know what your flashing. If it makes anyone feel better they can do a binary compare of this hboot with an original hboot and see that only the strings were manipulated.
Basically it was something I wanted so I did it for this phone. If others want to use it that is fine too, I just don't want to release something that could potentially brick based off of my mistakes, but it's been working fine for me for over a day.
jmstumme said:
If you look closely there are a few extra spaces in those lines. Basically it makes it look like its s-on and locked. I've found that it's easier to walk into a verizon store and get help when they dont think you've unlocked. It also removed the nag string on the boot splash when you flash a custom rom. I've been using something like this on my rezound for over a year and from the ppl in that forum there was a want for it. Yes hboot is a very dangerous part if you don't know what your flashing. If it makes anyone feel better they can do a binary compare of this hboot with an original hboot and see that only the strings were manipulated.
Basically it was something I wanted so I did it for this phone. If others want to use it that is fine too, I just don't want to release something that could potentially brick based off of my mistakes, but it's been working fine for me for over a day.
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Sounds good, thanks for this. I won't flash it now because I don't need to risk it but if I ever need to bring the phone to Verizon then I'll keep this in mind.
jmstumme said:
If you look closely there are a few extra spaces in those lines. Basically it makes it look like its s-on and locked. I've found that it's easier to walk into a verizon store and get help when they dont think you've unlocked. It also removed the nag string on the boot splash when you flash a custom rom. I've been using something like this on my rezound for over a year and from the ppl in that forum there was a want for it. Yes hboot is a very dangerous part if you don't know what your flashing. If it makes anyone feel better they can do a binary compare of this hboot with an original hboot and see that only the strings were manipulated.
Basically it was something I wanted so I did it for this phone. If others want to use it that is fine too, I just don't want to release something that could potentially brick based off of my mistakes, but it's been working fine for me for over a day.
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Oh okay this is a good idea but risky. May be good for people sending it in but it can't fool command line right?
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123421342 said:
Oh okay this is a good idea but risky. May be good for people sending it in but it can't fool command line right?
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using xda app-developers app
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From what I seen in the rest of the hboot no, it looks like it's obvious that its custom, s-off, and unlocked. This should also not be used for insurance fraud in any form or fashion. This is more or less to get people to not freak out and for people that like the stock look. As far as risk goes, having an s-off phone is dangerous since you can access the raw devices.
Looks nice!
jmstumme said:
From what I seen in the rest of the hboot no, it looks like it's obvious that its custom, s-off, and unlocked. This should also not be used for insurance fraud in any form or fashion. This is more or less to get people to not freak out and for people that like the stock look. As far as risk goes, having an s-off phone is dangerous since you can access the raw devices.
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---------- Post added at 03:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:52 PM ----------
Is there an RUU for our phones that, when flashed, would bring us right back to factory untouched condition?
jmstumme said:
This should also not be used for insurance fraud in any form or fashion.
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godhamba said:
Looks nice!
---------- Post added at 03:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:52 PM ----------
Is there an RUU for our phones that, when flashed, would bring us right back to factory untouched condition?
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Looks like this one should work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2437436
Otherwise I still have the original hboot from my phone

[Q] No ROM, CMW Recovery + unlocked/s=off (HELP ASAP)

I currently hate myself for my silly failure. Oh jeez, its embarrassing to explain but I was in a rush and didn't realize I was in the HTC One international ROM section and downloaded and installed ARHD not knowing my Verizon HTC One wouldn't work. Sigh, big failure on my part, I was trying to go skate but looks like I'm spending my Friday fixing my issues :crying:
Well, when in bootloader it tells me that my phone is unlocked and currently S=OFF. I have CWM Recovery flashed on it at the moment. I tried sideloading CM11 on, but ADB doesn't detect my device. Yet the strange part is Fastboot does. I have work in a little and desperately need my phone up and running before hand. (as my job revolves around my phone.)
Please, anyone out there know my situation? I've spent all day trying to find my solutions so i decided to turn to the experts. :fingers-crossed:
Find a ruu on this forum
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coldconfession13 said:
Find a ruu on this forum
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I've actually just recently been looking into that. Can I do it with s=off, the tutorials I've been reading for sprint HTC One's are saying to relock it?
Yea I believe Santod has a thread
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coldconfession13 said:
Yea I believe Santod has a thread
Sent from my HTC One VZW using Tapatalk 4
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I hate to be the n00b, but I already freaked up my phone once. (Thankfully its not really bricked) I can't lie, I'm pretty scared to fully mess it up haha. Is there anyone who can help me through it? I understand the steps on which through fastboot, but its the little things that I am not sure of.
Just do the ruu. No need to relock or s-on. What little things are you worried about? Ive seen threads that say you need to relock it too. But i knkw for a fact its not needed, as i did an ruu yesterday while s-off and unlocked in order to take the kk ota. Never lost s-off and never lost my unlocked status, despite hboot being downgraded and then upgraded.
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Just do the ruu. No need to relock or s-on. What little things are you worried about? Ive seen threads that say you need to relock it too. But i knkw for a fact its not needed, as i did an ruu yesterday while s-off and unlocked in order to take the kk ota. Never lost s-off and never lost my unlocked status, despite hboot being downgraded and then upgraded.
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Where do you get the correct Verizon RUU? Just purchased a used phone with S off / Rooted / with custom recovery.
Thanks. Trying to get the OTA Kit Kat to work..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485319
Bottom of second post.
cmlusco said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485319
Bottom of second post.
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Thank you for the lead. So any of these will work?
1.10.605.08 Decrypted RUU
1.10.605.10 Signed RUU
1.10.605.15 Decrypted RUU
1.10.605.15 Signed RUU
2.10.605.1 Decrypted RUU
2.10.605.1 Signed RUU
Decrypted if you are S Off?
Signed if you S on?
Is my understanding correct in that I would need to Re-Lock the bootloader as well?
Yes they will all work, it dosent matter if its signed or not since your unlocked and s-off. 2.10.605.1 is obviously the newst. And no you do not need to relock the bootloader, i dont know how that mith ever got started.

[Q] S-On Tampered Locked Secruity Warning

I'm stuck in the bootloader with S-ON Tampered, Locked, and Security Warning flags. Can't find an encrypted RUU or figure out how to encrypt the one I have to get this rolling again, can anybody give me a clue or anything on how to go about doing this or getting this thing functional again?
You can get the ruus at the bottom of this post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46506621
cmlusco said:
You can get the ruus at the bottom of this post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46506621
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Yes, it always says:
FAILED (status read failed (too many links))
Probably because its 2.10 RUU and mine is on 3.11?
Yeah an s-on phone wont allow you to flash an ruu version older than the one already on the phone. And unfortunatley, we do not have the newest ruu available yet.
So there's nothing I can do but wait? I was pretty sure I had everything flashed back to stock but once I turned S-ON it wouldn't let me go past the bootloader. My phone's sound completely stopped working so I was going to take it in to get it taken care of, but I guess I can't do anything at all now.
You can probably still flash the RUU if you get the correct one i would assume. I've reset the tampered flags before also. I always made it a point to flash the older RUU's before flipping s-on for a warranty return, because it is so much easier to get s-off in case I mess something up, so not sure how being on that newer firmware is going to play out.
ccarr313 said:
You can probably still flash the RUU if you get the correct one i would assume. I've reset the tampered flags before also. I always made it a point to flash the older RUU's before flipping s-on for a warranty return, because it is so much easier to get s-off in case I mess something up, so not sure how being on that newer firmware is going to play out.
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Yeah I'm just keeping an eye open and checking for the latest RUU. First time getting into this stuff, so lesson learned. Just sucks I'm without a phone even just to text/apps until then.
I have the same issue
GrayFalcon11 said:
Yeah I'm just keeping an eye open and checking for the latest RUU. First time getting into this stuff, so lesson learned. Just sucks I'm without a phone even just to text/apps until then.
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I was S-Off and unlocked and rooted, I was trying to flash back to stock for a warranty exchange. Now I'm Locked, S-On and flagged Tampered and stuck in the bootloader. I'm on 3.11.605.10 as well. I only have 4 days left to send this back to verizon.. Any suggestions? or I'm I butt ****ed with no lube.
keith7120 said:
I was S-Off and unlocked and rooted, I was trying to flash back to stock for a warranty exchange. Now I'm Locked, S-On and flagged Tampered and stuck in the bootloader. I'm on 3.11.605.10 as well. I only have 4 days left to send this back to verizon.. Any suggestions? or I'm I butt ****ed with no lube.
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What happen? I have 3 days left to send back to Verizon and I'm still s-off and unlocked and I don't wanna mess it up.
Do an older ruu.
Lock bootloader using fastboot.
Go s-on using fastboot.
Do a signed ruu.
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Do an older ruu.
Lock bootloader using fastboot.
Go s-on using fastboot.
Do a signed ruu.
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Why 2 ruu?
Probably not really needed, but just to be sure the phone got wiped out.
Let Me Make sure I understand
cmlusco said:
Probably not really needed, but just to be sure the phone got wiped out.
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Can I or can I not flash an older RUU?
How do I get a hold of a signed RUU? Is it the one that says decrypted?
Will this at least allow me to wipe the phone to where it does not say tampered?
I could have sworn I have tried these RUU's but I get a remote signature error.
No if you are s-on you can not flash an ruu which is an older version than the phone is currently on.
The signed and decrypted (not signed) ruu's can be found at the bottom of the second post of santods rom radio kernel thread in development. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46506621
In order to remove the tampered flag you would need to get s-off again. I believe there is a new exploit for 4.2.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51481200, if you want to go that route.
Remote sig error is because you were trying to flash an unsigned ruu while s-on.
oh well
cmlusco said:
No if you are s-on you can not flash an ruu which is an older version than the phone is currently on.
The signed and decrypted (not signed) ruu's can be found at the bottom of the second post of santods rom radio kernel thread in development. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46506621
In order to remove the tampered flag you would need to get s-off again. I believe there is a new exploit for 4.2.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51481200, if you want to go that route.
Remote sig error is because you were trying to flash an unsigned ruu while s-on.
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Welp, a couple seconds in the microwave solved my dilemma. I hope. It won't come back on.
Next question, my replacement device has 4.4.2 on it. Will the current S-off tools work to flip it from S-on to S-off?
keith7120 said:
Welp, a couple seconds in the microwave solved my dilemma. I hope. It won't come back on.
Next question, my replacement device has 4.4.2 on it. Will the current S-off tools work to flip it from S-on to S-off?
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Yup, just follow the directions on the WeakSauce thread. -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699091
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Yup, just follow the directions on the WeakSauce thread. -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699091
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Thanks, I'm now S-Off
how would i go about going S-On in fastboot? my fiance device was thought to be returned to stock but we found out that it says Relocked but still says S-Off and when we try to use Firewater it stops after we say Yes cause for some reason its already showing S-off but the bootloader is actually locked.
Stuck Bootloader
Hi i need help. I am stuck in bootloader with s On and relocked. Ive read everything and no go. Please help any one

how to get the htc one m8 back to s-on

hi there,
i have searched along the internet a lot time ago and i cant find guide to: how to get back my htc one m8 from s-off to s-on.
if there is a such guide, i would be happy to use it
meido132 said:
hi there,
i have searched along the internet a lot time ago and i cant find guide to: how to get back my htc one m8 from s-off to s-on.
if there is a such guide, i would be happy to use it
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fastboot oem writesecureflag 3
exad said:
fastboot oem writesecureflag 3
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that's it?
"writesecureflag 3" i need to write seprate or together?(write secure flag 3)
Nope as I wrote it.
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Nope as I wrote it.
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and what is gonna happen to the HTC? its gonna delete something(apps games etc)?
meido132 said:
and what is gonna happen to the HTC? its gonna delete something(apps games etc)?
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Nothing, all the command does is set the phone back to S-ON. You have to be 100% stock, and I mean 100%, otherwise it can possibly brick the phone
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Nothing, all the command does is set the phone back to S-ON. You have to be 100% stock, and I mean 100%, otherwise it can possibly brick the phone
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what is 100% stock?
bootloader relock/lock
recovery stock
the original apps
?
meido132 said:
what is 100% stock?
bootloader relock/lock
recovery stock
the original apps
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Yep, everything as when you first got the phone - original everything
Also.. why are you going S-ON? Generally not recommended to do so
@EddyOS: I know, you must hate me, I keep asking you the same questions in different threads.
Why everything stock? Isn't it enough to revert those things protected by the security flag back to stock? (e.g. radio) One can have a custom ROM, recovery and unlocked bootloader staying S-ON, the phone is fine with that, so why should it be important to revert those things to stock?
Thanks.
it is not 100% stock, it throws a security flag on the m8. even running ruu afterwards will not remove it.
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...it can possibly brick the phone
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Black Antitoon said:
@EddyOS: I know, you must hate me, I keep asking you the same questions in different threads.
Why everything stock? Isn't it enough to revert those things protected by the security flag back to stock? (e.g. radio) One can have a custom ROM, recovery and unlocked bootloader staying S-ON, the phone is fine with that, so why should it be important to revert those things to stock?
Thanks.
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Don't ask me why it's just a lot of people have managed to brick their phone cause they've had a custom HBOOT (to remove the red writing), forgot it and bricked the phone
@an0ther: I'm not sure I understand what you said. You mean that even if you reset everything to stock (including s-on and the "tampered" banner) HTC will still be able to read another internal "tampered" flag? Or what else?
@EddyOS: thanks, so you are basically saying I am correct, and reverting everything to stock is a precaution to make sure nothing (like the HBOOT) has been forgotten, right?
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@an0ther: I'm not sure I understand what you said. You mean that even if you reset everything to stock (including s-on and the "tampered" banner) HTC will still be able to read another internal "tampered" flag? Or what else?
@EddyOS: thanks, so you are basically saying I am correct, and reverting everything to stock is a precaution to make sure nothing (like the HBOOT) has been forgotten, right?
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Yes. If you're certain it's stock then go ahead. Just remember you have been warned so on your head be it
Thank you again. I will say it's your fault when I forget my HBOOT and brick my phone.
SaHiLzZ said:
Also.. why are you going S-ON? Generally not recommended to do so
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because if i want to get OTA updates, i want that everything will be stock(recovery stock,s-on,unroot)
meido132 said:
because if i want to get OTA updates, i want that everything will be stock(recovery stock,s-on,unroot)
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You don't need to be S-ON to flash an OTA, just stock with everything else (I know cause I flashed the new OTA manually the other day and it worked fine )
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You don't need to be S-ON to flash an OTA, just stock with everything else (I know cause I flashed the new OTA manually the other day and it worked fine )
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where i can find the ota updates to flash them in my htc one m8? and how i can find my ruu of HTC ONE M8?
there is a new ota that size 70 mb with some improvements and i want to flash it like you said
Black Antitoon said:
@an0ther: I'm not sure I understand what you said. You mean that even if you reset everything to stock (including s-on and the "tampered" banner) HTC will still be able to read another internal "tampered" flag? Or what else?
@EddyOS: thanks, so you are basically saying I am correct, and reverting everything to stock is a precaution to make sure nothing (like the HBOOT) has been forgotten, right?
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Yes, there is no way that HTC will not know that you have messed with the phone. You don't need s-on for ota updates, in fact, if you are s-off, you don't even need to lock your boot loader. Anyways, you can just dl ota updates just as easy.
At&t 1.58.502.1
EddyOS said:
Yes. If you're certain it's stock then go ahead. Just remember you have been warned so on your head be it
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I have this version of software for AT&T, and I would like to know: If I remove tampered flag and reset to locked and S-ON and then restore using a SIGNED RUU EXE FILE for this software version, will I be ok (as in not get a security warning and look 100% stock)?

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Hello. I have an HTC ONE M8 CID : ORANG001. Bootloader LOCKED and S-ON. Running : Android 4.4.3
It is carrier unlocked, I can use whatever sim I like with this phone. Now, I want to get rid off ORANG001 and change it with a HTC__001 or some other CID so I can receive updates directly from HTC.
Does anyone know some safe steps to accomplish this ? Or I can change somehow the recovery with another one ? I think ORANG001 means that is orange stock recovery. It's not carrier locked, but still, I want to replace the ORANG001.
PoweredTek said:
Hello. I have an HTC ONE M8 CID : ORANG001. Bootloader LOCKED and S-ON. Running : Android 4.4.3
It is carrier unlocked, I can use whatever sim I like with this phone. Now, I want to get rid off ORANG001 and change it with a HTC__001 or some other CID so I can receive updates directly from HTC.
Does anyone know some safe steps to accomplish this ? Or I can change somehow the recovery with another one ? I think ORANG001 means that is orange stock recovery. It's not carrier locked, but still, I want to replace the ORANG001.
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You need s-off to chance your cid...
After this you can play with you phone as you wish, even convert it to GPE edition...
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lukes91 said:
You need s-off to chance your cid...
After this you can play with you phone as you wish, even convert it to GPE edition...
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After S-OFF can I still receive official updates from HTC ?
PoweredTek said:
After S-OFF can I still receive official updates from HTC ?
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Yes, you can
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PoweredTek said:
After S-OFF can I still receive official updates from HTC ?
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Only if you have stock rom and recovery. But if you go that far down, may as well download it from here and flash it yourself.
PcFish said:
Only if you have stock rom and recovery. But if you go that far down, may as well download it from here and flash it yourself.
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Yeah but to S-OFF one must be rooted first, right?
UPDATE : I just unlocked the bootloader. I want to root the device but what TWRP should I flash ?
UPDATE : Rooted the device and installed SuperSU via TWRP. Next, getting S-OFF.
UPDATE : I get this message while flashing firewater : firewater can not work on your device.
Until I manage to S-OFF can I flash through TWRP a custom ROM like CM for example ? Or S-OFF is a must for doing this ?
PoweredTek said:
Yeah but to S-OFF one must be rooted first, right?
UPDATE : I just unlocked the bootloader. I want to root the device but what TWRP should I flash ?
UPDATE : Rooted the device and installed SuperSU via TWRP. Next, getting S-OFF.
UPDATE : I get this message while flashing firewater : firewater can not work on your device.
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For firewater yes, I'm not familiar with the other methods.
If it's saying it doesn't work for your device, you're out of luck, unless you try the other methods. Which you do at your own risk obviously.
PcFish said:
For firewater yes, I'm not familiar with the other methods.
If it's saying it doesn't work for your device, you're out of luck, unless you try the other methods. Which you do at your own risk obviously.
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What are the other methods, and I cannot install a custom ROM like CM with S-ON right ?
PoweredTek said:
What are the other methods, and I cannot install a custom ROM like CM with S-ON right ?
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Sunshine? I forget the names.
You only need an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery to install custom roms.
PcFish said:
Sunshine? I forget the names.
You only need an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery to install custom roms.
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Then what is the purpose of S-OFF ?
PoweredTek said:
Then what is the purpose of S-OFF ?
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You can flash whatever rom you like without s-off...
S-off is required to write to all partitions, change cid and so on (google and xda are your friends)... You can still achieve this by flashing a stock-like rom like arhd or maximus te and paying 25 bucks to Sunshine developers...
lukes91 said:
You can flash whatever rom you like without s-off...
S-off is required to write to all partitions, change cid and so on (google and xda are your friends)... You can still achieve this by flashing a stock-like rom like arhd or maximus te and paying 25 bucks to Sunshine developers...
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I have CM11. Next step, S--OFF via SunShine.
PoweredTek said:
I have CM11. Next step, S--OFF via SunShine.
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Sunshine requires the stock sense rom .. i hope you made a nandriod
or you can just flash this
http://www.androidrevolution.org/downloader/download.php?file=One_M8_2.22.401.4_odexed.zip
once your s-off I recommend this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/change-wwe-m8-to-dev-edition-ota-t2826567
PoweredTek said:
I have CM11. Next step, S--OFF via SunShine.
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Are you sure you need s-off?
From your posts, I can plainly tell you are a noob. (no offence, that just what we call the new to rooting people here.)
S-on is there to protect your device from becoming bricked when you flash something you shouldn't be.
With S-off, if you screw up, your $700 phone might be turned into a paperweight with absolutely zero chance that the warranty is still valid.
If you want my advice, don't go S-off till you know what you are doing.
xunholyx said:
Are you sure you need s-off?
From your posts, I can plainly tell you are a noob. (no offence, that just what we call the new to rooting people here.)
S-on is there to protect your device from becoming bricked when you flash something you shouldn't be.
With S-off, if you screw up, your $700 phone might be turned into a paperweight with absolutely zero chance that the warranty is still valid.
If you want my advice, don't go S-off till you know what you are doing.
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I just S-OFF. So I think you were wrong.
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I just S-OFF. So I think you were wrong.
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I didn't say you won't be able to s-off, I asked you if you needed it.
Why do you need S-off? Do you even know what s-off is for?
Or do you just want it because you think it's cool?
Anyways, happy flashing dude.
I have a feeling that in a week or two, you'll be back on this forum begging for help, and I'll say to you, "I told you so!" But I really hope not.
Have fun, and be careful what you flash now.
No joke.
EDIT: I see now where you thought I was wrong. I didn't mean you will bugger your phone while doing the S-off, I meant you may bugger it up after, because you are S-off.
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I didn't say you won't be able to s-off, I asked you if you needed it.
Why do you need S-off? Do you even know what s-off is for?
Or do you just want it because you think it's cool?
Anyways, happy flashing dude.
I have a feeling that in a week or two, you'll be back on this forum begging for help, and I'll say to you, "I told you so!" But I really hope not.
Have fun, and be careful what you flash now.
No joke.
EDIT: I see now where you thought I was wrong. I didn't mean you will bugger your phone while doing the S-off, I meant you may bugger it up after, because you are S-off.
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For example the red text cannot be removed with S-ON.
PoweredTek said:
For example the red text cannot be removed with S-ON.
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I got this reply just after I PMed you.
I think you are going to be just fine.
Keep reading and learning, and don't be afraid to ask questions.
You got this buddy.
xunholyx said:
I got this reply just after I PMed you.
I think you are going to be just fine.
Keep reading and learning, and don't be afraid to ask questions.
You got this buddy.
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There is no PM.
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There is no PM.
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I sent a PM then, and have just sent a new one two minutes ago before I saw this post.
Also, I just tried to send a friend request that didn't deliver because there was no friend button for it?
The junior status maybe?
Anyways, the gist of it was this:
I was very mistaken about you. You are obviously not a noob from what I've seen on subsequent posts, you are just an M8 noob. I was in your position once, and I get it 100%
The thing is, on the Q&A, I get sick of the same questions over and over and over.
And also, people getting into soft brick trouble because of s-off.
I have no worries about you though buddy.
You will be just fine. It's not really that hard. Just different than the rest.
It's worth it though. The M8 is SOOO nice!

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