[Q] DVB-S2 recordings or streams not hardware accelerated - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Hi everybody,
my nexus 7 with stock 4.3 unrooted does play most h.264 1080p content with hardware acceleration using diceplayer or other 3rd party players flawlessly. However 1080i live streams from my tvheadend server (dvb-s2) or recordings from either the tvheadend server or my TV do not. I've tried several players (bsplayer, diceplayer, ES Media Player, MoboPlayer, MXPlayer, VLC, VPlayer) but none does hw acceleration with those files. It also doesn't matter if I record them as a ts-file or an mkv-container.
I've attached a short recording (from Sky Germany inbetween shows, so there shouldn't be any copy rights violated I hope). Somehow attaching the file wouldn't work so I uploaded it externally:
h**p://uploaded.net/file/naeilem8
I'd appreciate any help to get this working.
Thanks

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Archos Video Player now has a free version (with minor ads)

Apparently the $4.99 charge caused enough of an uproar with Archos customers and people wanting to use their Video Player (or even just test it out), so now Archos has gone and made an ad-supported version of their Video Player. As a disclaimer I have to say that I do find MX Player to be better overall in general, but I just installed this Archos Video Player (free version, obviously) and I've spent maybe 15 minutes with it on my Nexus 7 and I have to say one word:
Impressive.
Seriously, it is. No, it ain't MX Player but, as soon as I loaded it and then was able to see my network shares in a few seconds flat, then index those folders and grab the cover art - and even subtitles for some files - I was duly impressed as noted.
Second disclaimer: my Wife is deaf so pretty much everything I have already has subtitles but, it was pretty awesome to see this video player reach out for them just the same.
I'd never even heard of this video player before now and I try to keep up with Archos and their products, so I am definitely surprised with this little gem so far. I have some videos that have native DTS soundtracks and of course neither this app nor MX Player can decode DTS natively, they both require additional codecs, and I recently located the DTS codecs for MX Player and they work great. For this Archos Video Player, there's another app/installer called Archos Video All Codecs Plugin, which is also free and it's on Google Play just as well - that took all of 10 seconds to locate and install - you run it one time once it's installed on your device and then the Archos Video Player has access to the codecs.
I then hit my network share again and loaded the previously playable-without-audio files and it works, just as designed. Fantastic experience with this app so far, but I still have MX Player as well. I'll do more testing with various files over the next few days, but if it works as well over time as it does right now, I may just be using this as my primary Android video player from now on.
Links:
Archos Video Player Free
Archos Video All Codecs Plugin
br0adband said:
Apparently the $4.99 charge caused enough of an uproar with Archos customers and people wanting to use their Video Player (or even just test it out), so now Archos has gone and made an ad-supported version of their Video Player. As a disclaimer I have to say that I do find MX Player to be better overall in general, but I just installed this Archos Video Player (free version, obviously) and I've spent maybe 15 minutes with it on my Nexus 7 and I have to say one word:
Impressive.
Seriously, it is. No, it ain't MX Player but, as soon as I loaded it and then was able to see my network shares in a few seconds flat, then index those folders and grab the cover art - and even subtitles for some files - I was duly impressed as noted.
Second disclaimer: my Wife is deaf so pretty much everything I have already has subtitles but, it was pretty awesome to see this video player reach out for them just the same.
I'd never even heard of this video player before now and I try to keep up with Archos and their products, so I am definitely surprised with this little gem so far. I have some videos that have native DTS soundtracks and of course neither this app nor MX Player can decode DTS natively, they both require additional codecs, and I recently located the DTS codecs for MX Player and they work great. For this Archos Video Player, there's another app/installer called Archos Video All Codecs Plugin, which is also free and it's on Google Play just as well - that took all of 10 seconds to locate and install - you run it one time once it's installed on your device and then the Archos Video Player has access to the codecs.
I then hit my network share again and loaded the previously playable-without-audio files and it works, just as designed. Fantastic experience with this app so far, but I still have MX Player as well. I'll do more testing with various files over the next few days, but if it works as well over time as it does right now, I may just be using this as my primary Android video player from now on.
Links:
Archos Video Player Free
Archos Video All Codecs Plugin
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are you using an UPnP server to share your movies over wifi? Your subtitles are integrated into the video files, or are external files?( .srt usually)
I'm using the SMB support in the Archos Video Player, I don't use uPNP for anything (not that I have any such devices save for my cable modem/router), pulling MKV containers directly for playback. I embed the subs inside the MKV containers, butfor one or two of the videos that I have that weren't worth putting into MKV containers (they're old AVI files using the Xvid codec) they had sub/idx style subtitles and not srt so the Archos Video Player pulled down an srt version that works just as well.
I do all my own encoding probably 99% of the time and make sure the captions or subtitles are accurate and without issues, embedded inside the MKV containers so I know certain my Wife won't have any problems.
Very nice. Thanks for the share. So far diceplayer and this (both with ffmpeg added) are the only ones to play all my MKVs correctly with hardware decoding.
Mxplayer, even with ffmpeg, fails to do HWA audio in some of my videos.
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I run a Plex server from my ancient EeeBox for streaming videos to my Roku. I hadn't bothered buying the app for Android because it was five bucks. The Archos player picked up the Plex server lickity split....yay!

Watch an MKV with embeded subtitles through allshare cast dongle

Hello, just have a doubt here that's kind of bugging me and haven't been able to figure it out.
I bought an allshare cast dongle and discovered the painful process that it is to get it to work with a custom rom.
After a long process and different methods I finaly got it to work and I am quite happy with the device, however, I have a bunch of mkv's with subtitles and whenever I play the file through mx video player, the video looks and sounds fine on the tv but the subtitles show up in the phone.
Other than hardcoding those subs into the file before playing it, I can't come up with a solution.
I also tried rockplayer but that doesn't even play the subs at all.
Do you guys have any video player recomendations that will play both the mkv and the embeded subs in the tv through the dongle?
Thanks in advance.
try enabling hardware decoding for subtitles, it's in the MX player settings.

[Q] Is it possible to use H/W decoding to watch *.mkv in nexus 7(2013)

Have any one tried it.
Or will it be done by flashing a custom rom(may be cm10)
mahoihei said:
Have any one tried it.
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Yes. My sat-box records in .mkv and it is viewable (streamed from sat-box) without changing anything. I use vplayer.
I use diceplayer, works great.
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MX Player with custom codec.
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MX Player with custom codec.
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+1. You can even boost the volume level to upto 30 if you use HW+ decoding, works amazing on AC3/DTS audio
serviio and diceplayer. Makes a great DNLC network that can stream any file to your Nexus. As for playing it on the nexus, I personally dont like putting movie files on mine since the memory gets used up rather quickly.
MX Player and the VLC Beta both work fine with .mkvs for me. I've even played some pretty hefty 1080p files with no issues.
you don't need to do anything. just open the file with MX player, be player or similar. sorry I'm not understanding why this is an issue for you
You can use HW decoding for video in players such as MX Player but you can't do audio HW decoding for some codecs since Dolby is suing everybody for supporting their formats without permission and is also refusing to license them.
MX Player works great in HW+ mode. I have had no problem with normal HD mkv files or 10 bit anime mkv
Tony_YYZ said:
You can use HW decoding for video in players such as MX Player but you can't do audio HW decoding for some codecs since Dolby is suing everybody for supporting their formats without permission and is also refusing to license them.
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Actually you can, custom codec option in mx player Worked wonders for me, there's threads about this. Stock rom, locked.
Yes, it can for both 8-bits 720p and 1080p, but 10-bits sorry, can't....
Can anyone point me to the right codec to download? All videos I try are using S/W instead of H/W in MxPlayer (except MP4). WMV and MKV are playing in S/W. Thanks a bunch
joey4321 said:
Can anyone point me to the right codec to download? All videos I try are using S/W instead of H/W in MxPlayer (except MP4). WMV and MKV are playing in S/W. Thanks a bunch
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ya, where do i download the latest HW codecs? my s/w works fine but HW mode doesnt work too well in mxplayer pro/ lags and stutters
Some education is needed
MKV is not a codec, it's a container format much like DVD .... The problem is not the MKV container but what it contains. Generally the biggest problems are MKV's made from US OTA (Over the air) and cable TV recordings which all have the audio in AC3 format and usually in Dolby encoding. (And as someone mentioned Dolby doesn't like it when they don't get their Cut, even if the software is free and no one is actually profiting from it except the Consumer)
I've recorded and archived several TV series since 2006 and some of my first MKV's kept the AC3 audio format (but converted the video to h.264) because I was having sound sync problems (Not sure if it was an x264 or the cable company's fault but the issue eventually went away) and for those I have to use software decoding for the audio but the video is still hardware accel .... The ones I've made in the last 3-4 years have the audio converted to AAC format and those have full hardware accel video and audio and play flawlessly and effortlessly even on my lowly Rockchip dual core TV Stick (720p and in the process of being embedded in a Motorola Lapdock)
Point being it's not the MKV container that is the problem, what counts is the formats it contains .... And in the case of us North Americans we need to convert the audio (AAC is the best bet IMO) so you may as well convert the video (Much of it is interlaced and that's another issue conversion fixes, Handbrakes default Decomb filter does it well) .... For that I would recommend x264 and Handbrake (x264 is included in Handbrake) which should not only take care of compatibility issues it also makes for a smaller file (Better transfer/streaming over wifi) without any loss of playback quality .... Also I would recommend stripping off any extra audio feeds (Languages) if you aren't going to use them, ditto for subtitles ... In other words keep it simple and convert to formats with known/best compatibility
SPAM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156254
MX player > settings > decoder > download custom codec
what about the mpeg2 decode ,not h/w decode?
no hardware acceleration for 1080i dvb-s2 recordings or streams
My nexus 7 with stock Rom plays 1080p h264 content in MKV containers flawlessly with h/w acceleration with various players. Except for either streams or recordings from my tvheadend server. If they are 1080i (no German station broadcasts in 1080p) none of the players gets h/w working. SD and 720p do work though. The only difference I can see between my recorded files and the ones that do play is that the recordings have 25 fps whereas the other mkvs have about 24.
In the attachments there are two screenshots of two mkvs' properties. The 25 fps one is the one that won't work.
Anyone's got an idea? Thanks
from what i know,snapdragon still don't support 10bit decoding perfectly,thats why u can't use hw+ mode for 10bit video.
When I tried with my HTC One X,it can play 10bit video in hw+ mode though.Its likely for now Tegra and Exynos only support 10bit decoding in hw+ mode,even not perfectly.
u can refer to this thread ->
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mx-videoplayer/WKv1LNeUTSI

[Q] 1080p MKV / MP4 freezing

Hi,
i have problems with 1080p MKV and MP4 playback.
When i playback a movie with 1080p and Hardware Decoding, I get terrible blocking and freezing (strainge colours, green Pixel and so on).
I tested with MX-Player (H/W+), VLC Player, Plex and XBMC. The result is always the same.
When i use the same file in ts oder m2ts - Format, then everything is ok.
So i tested to create the mkv and mp4 File with different Tools: mkvmerge, ffmpeg, makemkv, mp4box and so on..
Always Errors and terrible playback.
Is there a trick or can the device handle HD only in *.ts without Errors???
stehohrhase said:
Hi,
i have problems with 1080p MKV and MP4 playback.
When i playback a movie with 1080p and Hardware Decoding, I get terrible blocking and freezing (strainge colours, green Pixel and so on).
I tested with MX-Player (H/W+), VLC Player, Plex and XBMC. The result is always the same.
When i use the same file in ts oder m2ts - Format, then everything is ok.
So i tested to create the mkv and mp4 File with different Tools: mkvmerge, ffmpeg, makemkv, mp4box and so on..
Always Errors and terrible playback.
Is there a trick or can the device handle HD only in *.ts without Errors???
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I'm able to play 1080p mkv files and mp4 files without issue. I actually download a lot of 1080p movie trailer in mp4 format to my tablet. However, I normally use Archos Video player or BS player though as the hardware acceleration appears to be better on them than other video players I've tried.
I use mx player and never have an issue, have you tried the software codec for mx?
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Try archos and the achos free codec pack.
MX player
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so, i tested more:
Archos has the best Performance. you only see sometimes litte stuttering. But the PGS-Subtitles are not shown -((
BS-Player has Picture -Errors
MX-Player in S/W and H/W Looks ok, but not enough Performance for full framerate Decoding.H/W+ Decoder has enogh Performance, but the same Errors in the Picture like BS-Player, Plex, XBMC abd so on.
I don't understand why... the Problem ist not all movies... and this are not the movies withe the highets Bitrate. convert to ts looks good.
I put a short sample online.. mail me, if you are interessed to verify and help... I can not post the link here.. (new user board-rule)
I just streamed a 1080p mkv from my WD Live network drive with no stuttering or sound issues. I use Archos player and the free codec pack.
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i have the P605 with quadcore. has this other gpu than the P600 octagon ?
stehohrhase said:
Hi,
i have problems with 1080p MKV and MP4 playback.
When i playback a movie with 1080p and Hardware Decoding, I get terrible blocking and freezing (strainge colours, green Pixel and so on).
I tested with MX-Player (H/W+), VLC Player, Plex and XBMC. The result is always the same.
When i use the same file in ts oder m2ts - Format, then everything is ok.
So i tested to create the mkv and mp4 File with different Tools: mkvmerge, ffmpeg, makemkv, mp4box and so on..
Always Errors and terrible playback.
Is there a trick or can the device handle HD only in *.ts without Errors???
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maybe is not the resolution but profile... 10bits encoding or 8bits encoding?
stehohrhase said:
i have the P605 with quadcore. has this other gpu than the P600 octagon ?
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hey, stehohrhase, has this resolved with different player? I am tempted to buy p605, but I don't want to buy one that has issue with video playback.
angilinmago said:
hey, stehohrhase, has this resolved with different player? I am tempted to buy p605, but I don't want to buy one that has issue with video playback.
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i guess is not the player... TS is just the container... this device can handle 1080p
no issues
I use MK player with no issues even in FULL HD movies!
Maybe your files (muvies) are stored in ExtStorage (microSD).
Have you check your microSD card speed?
Try Dice Player its one of the best players out there, but for DTS audio you need "libffmpeg.so" from the attachment below.
Other than that try a test sample with video stream only and see if it plays fine, if it does then mux in the other streams one at a time until the problem returns.
10 bits encoding maybe?

Streaming MKV files from PC to Tablet

Hi all,
I have been trying to stream videos from my laptop to my Note, and I haven't been able to get it running smoothly. I have tried a number of different players, but the issue is that it will either stutter like crazy or play audio without video. I can be more specific about the types of files (mkv, h264, 720p, etc.) and players (VLC for Android beta, Archos Video, MX Player, etc.).
Has ANYONE managed to stream and watch videos from their PC/laptop to this tablet successfully or is this tablet just not capable?
Many thanks!
I am running a plex server on my desktop and stream to several devices, including my note.
Another vote for plex it's pretty amazing. You can get it for free after you get some free coins from the amazon app store.
Of course the tablet is capable of streaming video smoothly. I use MX Player to stream videos from a samba server (traditional Windows share, no special software required). The MX Player is configured to use the 'HW+' decoder. It plays Full HD mkvs no problem.
no.0ne said:
Of course the tablet is capable of streaming video smoothly. I use MX Player to stream videos from a samba server (traditional Windows share, no special software required). The MX Player is configured to use the 'HW+' decoder. It plays Full HD mkvs no problem.
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Junetastic said:
Hi all,
I have been trying to stream videos from my laptop to my Note, and I haven't been able to get it running smoothly. I have tried a number of different players, but the issue is that it will either stutter like crazy or play audio without video. I can be more specific about the types of files (mkv, h264, 720p, etc.) and players (VLC for Android beta, Archos Video, MX Player, etc.).
Has ANYONE managed to stream and watch videos from their PC/laptop to this tablet successfully or is this tablet just not capable?
Many thanks!
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With MX player change it to all software decoders(audi n video). Its what I have to do with MKV Files.
gilani7 said:
With MX player change it to all software decoders(audi n video). Its what I have to do with MKV Files.
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Thanks! This resolved my issues!
gilani7 said:
With MX player change it to all software decoders(audi n video). Its what I have to do with MKV Files.
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That's not a good idea as a software decoder will burn through your battery, especially with HD content.
@Junetastic Can you try playing the sample videos from this site http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/ ? I have downloaded them to my computer and then tried streaming them to my tablet using the HW+ decoder and it worked without any problems (except the 'Birds' video, which is 40mbps and is too much for my wifi network to handle reliably. Once copied to the tablet, it of course played without problems.)
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That's not a good idea as a software decoder will burn through your battery, especially with HD content.
@Junetastic Can you try playing the sample videos from this site http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/ ? I have downloaded them to my computer and then tried streaming them to my tablet using the HW+ decoder and it worked without any problems (except the 'Birds' video, which is 40mbps and is too much for my wifi network to handle reliably. Once copied to the tablet, it of course played without problems.)
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I usually just have to use the software decoder for the Audio. Didn't really know it would take a hit on the battery. How much more will it really take? I have gone through many media players and found this to be the easiest solution.
gilani7 said:
I usually just have to use the software decoder for the Audio. Didn't really know it would take a hit on the battery. How much more will it really take? I have gone through many media players and found this to be the easiest solution.
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Oh, I don't think you have to worry about battery life if you software decode just the audio. It's the video that takes a lot of work to decode. From what I seem to remember, software decoding of HD video can drain the battery up to several times faster (depending on brightness and other settings, which can change the relative energy consuption of the decoding process).
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That's not a good idea as a software decoder will burn through your battery, especially with HD content.
@Junetastic Can you try playing the sample videos from this site http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/ ? I have downloaded them to my computer and then tried streaming them to my tablet using the HW+ decoder and it worked without any problems (except the 'Birds' video, which is 40mbps and is too much for my wifi network to handle reliably. Once copied to the tablet, it of course played without problems.)
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I just downloaded one file (Suzumiya) and it didn't work with H/W+ Decoder; however, I was successful in streaming some episodes of Silicon Valley from my PC with it (and using S/W decoder for audio).
Junetastic said:
I just downloaded one file (Suzumiya) and it didn't work with H/W+ Decoder; however, I was successful in streaming some episodes of Silicon Valley from my PC with it (and using S/W decoder for audio).
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Ok, I think I know where the problem comes from - I bet you have P600, the Exynos version right?
no.0ne said:
Ok, I think I know where the problem comes from - I bet you have P600, the Exynos version right?
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Yeah. Am I out of luck?
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Yeah. Am I out of luck?
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I have the P600. I downloaded all of the video clips to my desktop. When I stream them directly using MX player, I do get some lag and stutter. However, when I add them to my Plex library I can play all of them just fine. The Plex server handles all the transcode that is needed and I just have to click play. I don't need to worry about formats or bitrates (unless I want to). It is so simple my 5yo can use it to watch videos on her tablet. She can even sync videos for offline viewing on car trips.
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Yeah. Am I out of luck?
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Well, it seems that the hardware decoders are quite different on the Snapdragon vs. Exynos and since Samsung is very sparse with documentation, the MX Player developers didn't manage to optimize their software for the Exynos (this is just my guess). So you might try a different player, perhaps some will work fine. But then again, it might not. In which case you might have to abandon universal streaming and either transcode your videos or use an application that will do it for you on the fly (e.g. Plex as WJThomas proposed). The downside is you have to use a computer (and often a paid app as is the case with Plex) and can't stream your content from a NAS.
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In which case you might have to abandon universal streaming and either transcode your videos or use an application that will do it for you on the fly (e.g. Plex as WJThomas proposed). The downside is you have to use a computer (and often a paid app as is the case with Plex) and can't stream your content from a NAS.
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The upside is that you don't have to worry about which device supports which formats, and that you can stream content from some NAS's without a computer. If you subscribe to PlexPass the app is free, and you can use the app to sync media to your device (and then you can even stream from device to device)
Can someone please explain how they're playing .mkv files without playback stopping after a few seconds?
What I'm trying to do is play full bit-rate Blu-ray .mkv rips. I am using ES File Explorer to navigate to shared folders on my Windows PC, and what happens is that the video will eventually start playing but then stop after 5 or so seconds of playback and never continue again. I've tried accessing the files via DNLA software like Servio, but I get the exact same result each time.
And bandwidth is not the problem, as I was able to stream uncompressed content just fine when I had my Surface Pro 2.
Megalith said:
Can someone please explain how they're playing .mkv files without playback stopping after a few seconds?
What I'm trying to do is play full bit-rate Blu-ray .mkv rips. I am using ES File Explorer to navigate to shared folders on my Windows PC, and what happens is that the video will eventually start playing but then stop after 5 or so seconds of playback and never continue again. I've tried accessing the files via DNLA software like Servio, but I get the exact same result each time.
And bandwidth is not the problem, as I was able to stream uncompressed content just fine when I had my Surface Pro 2.
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I use ES File Explorer to browse a 3TB networked hard drive and stream Blu-Ray .mkv files to my tablet with no problem. I use MX Player Pro (H/W decoder, H/W+ causes MX Player to force close on KitKat). No issues with playback.

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