I thought I had a bad ROM, but apparently it was a bad cable. And it seems as though the geniune cable does a "bit" more.
I didn't even think there would be a difference in between my Samsung Galaxy S3 cable and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 cable, but there is.
I've been using an app call Galaxy Current Lite to see why it's been taking 8 hours to charge from 4%-100%. I have used the original charger cable that came with my Note 8.0 as well as the original set that came with my SGS3. Both yield the same result. Galaxy Current Lite showed max 500ma was going through.
After being frustrated I took my Note 8.0 to a store with another Note 8.0 store display, plugged it in and check it with Galaxy Current app... load and behold it was getting 1800ma.
So apparently the cable does make a difference. So I went to buy the geniune Samsung travel kit, while I deal with warranty replacement from Samsung tomorrow. I also found out that using a cable that is for Note 8.0 via my SGS3 or Apple AC to USB also gave a 1100ma and 900ma respectively.
So if you are having issues SLOW charging... grab the app and check. It could be the cable. And if it is... DO NOT GET A GENERIC. I tried a generic charging ONLY cable with the original Samsung charger it yield 468ma
Hope this will help others
mbze430 said:
I thought I had a bad ROM, but apparently it was a bad cable. And it seems as though the geniune cable does a "bit" more.
I didn't even think there would be a difference in between my Samsung Galaxy S3 cable and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 cable, but there is.
I've been using an app call Galaxy Current Lite to see why it's been taking 8 hours to charge from 4%-100%. I have used the original charger can cable that came with my Note 8.0 as well as the original set that came with my SGS3. Both yield the same result. Galaxy Current Lite showed max 500ma was going through.
After being frustrated I took my Note 8.0 to a store with another Note 8.0 store display, plugged it in and check it with Galaxy Current app... load and behold it was getting 1800ma.
So apparently the cable does make a difference. So I went to buy the geniune Samsung travel kit, while I deal with warranty replacement from Samsung tomorrow. I also found out that using a cable that is for Note 8.0 via my SGS3 or Apple AC to USB also gave a 1300ma current instead of 1800ma.
So if you are having issues SLOW charging... grab the app and check. It could be the cable. And if it is... DO NOT GET A GENERIC.
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Let me first confirm this and also post some of my findings in the past.
I have 3 samsung oem ones all having issues and then a generic and another from a nokia and they are the ones I've been using as they are shorter + thicker and give me 1800 ma constantly. I don't have any issues with generic ones as long as you use original charger.
When my note 8 went to service center for mother board and screen replacement (liquid damage), I confirmed with tech if there was something special inside the samsung cable, and was told that though he cannot disclose that, but even if there was, it's not related to charging, told me to just use any good/decent quality cable.
The Nokia one I have is CA-101D and it's extremely short in length (few inches) but good enough for unattended charging on table.
Apart from galaxy current like, one can also use battery monitor widget and in it's settings set measuring method to samsung one and it will also start showing what current you are getting as well as track charge/drain cycles.
I purposely use a 0.7A to charge my Note 8 overnight..
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Genuine or not is not the point. One should use a cable designed to carry the needed current. Some cables are designed to carry only 500mA or 1A, especially in the old days. Nowadays with the power hungry smart phones/tablets, you would want to use a cable that can carry at least 2A or even 3A. If you are not looking specifically for these spec and grab just any USB cable randomly, chances are you would be limiting the current. Certainly the Samsung cable that comes with your device would supply sufficient current. But if you don't feel like traveling with a dedicated cable for each one of your devices, just buy a 3A rated cable, it would work across all of your devices. A 3A cable would be future proof for a while.
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I thought I had a bad ROM, but apparently it was a bad cable. And it seems as though the geniune cable does a "bit" more.
I didn't even think there would be a difference in between my Samsung Galaxy S3 cable and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 cable, but there is.
I've been using an app call Galaxy Current Lite to see why it's been taking 8 hours to charge from 4%-100%. I have used the original charger cable that came with my Note 8.0 as well as the original set that came with my SGS3. Both yield the same result. Galaxy Current Lite showed max 500ma was going through.
After being frustrated I took my Note 8.0 to a store with another Note 8.0 store display, plugged it in and check it with Galaxy Current app... load and behold it was getting 1800ma.
So apparently the cable does make a difference. So I went to buy the geniune Samsung travel kit, while I deal with warranty replacement from Samsung tomorrow. I also found out that using a cable that is for Note 8.0 via my SGS3 or Apple AC to USB also gave a 1100ma and 900ma respectively.
So if you are having issues SLOW charging... grab the app and check. It could be the cable. And if it is... DO NOT GET A GENERIC. I tried a generic charging ONLY cable with the original Samsung charger it yield 468ma
Hope this will help others
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I tried some current apps, and found them to drain my battery, so be careful.
I used 2 meter Sony, BlackBerry, no name brands, and a case logic 10 footer. All did very well with high current charging.
The OEM Samsung almost killed my Note 8.0 by fire! After a few months the thin wires shorted out at the micro usb plug, and super heated. Won't use Samsung cables anymore.
My issue is plug life, micro usb sux big time for plug in design. No wonder USB3 has become a popular change to manufacturers of chargeable devices.
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I recently bought a official samsung car charger ECA-P10CBEG to charge my galaxy note 10.1
BIG MISTAKE. This charger does not charge galaxy note 10.1 tablet at all.
I tried the carger in my car, and a cross came over the battery that indicated that the tablet was not going to charge.
This car charger comes with official 30 pin samsung cable and can charge most galaxy tabs
full list of compatable tabs that work with this charger: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ECA-P10CBEGSTA-compatible
So, I chatted with a samsung representative, who also re-iterated that samsung galaxy tab charges won't work with note 10.1
(see attched image of conversation)
and that I need to call J&J to check if there may be a car charger for note 10.1. there isn't.
Just creating this thread to alert ppl, not to waste money buying samsung galaxy tab car charger.
Also, I asked about tablet's sensitivity reduced when it's placed on charging.... I suggested that this may be because the charger was defective and not earthing properly... guess what was the response....
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Tab should not be used while charging.
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OMG, I rolled laughing. a bit like your holding it the wrong way.
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Also, I asked about tablet's sensitivity reduced when it's placed on charging.... I suggested that this may be because the charger was defective and not earthing properly... guess what was the response....
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OMG, I rolled laughing. a bit like your holding it the wrong way.
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Does it charge other devices like your phone? Maybe the charger is defective because these chargers can't tell apart different devices.
The wall charger can charge my galaxy note tablet just fine.
Just that there is a loss of touch sesitivity when the tablet is charging. Many other folks on this forum have had this issue.
The car charger does not charge galaxy note tablet. Don't have any other device that works with 2A current to try plugging in on the car charger to see if it works. I am pretty sure that car charger is good, though. Just that it does not have enough amperes to charge note tablet.
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Hi guys,
Running omega v16 and have been very stable since I installed it a couple of months ago.
This morning I woke up and having been charging my phone overnight it was only on 40%?! Using it for a while it while plugged in made the percentage go down! Normally it slowly increases with use or fully charges when not used in about 2-3 hours.
I've rebooted and no use! A different charger doesn't seem to have helped things.
The galaxy charging app says max - 100, avg - 100, now - 1698. (http://www.imgur.com/QWO80GY.png)
If I unplug and plug it back in they all temporarily go to 1698 (but average 0) before slowly decreasing down to 100?. It's almost as though the battery is reporting itself as full and not accepting charge?
Reboots haven't helped! I really need my phone to be guy charged for this evening so any tips would be great.
Thanks.
On 29% now n's it's been plugged in pretty much the whole time! Lowest brightness too.
Same happens with the Galaxy S3, sometimes it's because of the cable (you get a new genuine samsung charger+usb cable) and other times it's because of unstable current from the plug, which is rare and shouldn't happen if it worked before.
Some people also say stock kernel fixes it.
I would recommend the new charger/usb.
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Same happens with the Galaxy S3, sometimes it's because of the cable (you get a new genuine samsung charger+usb cable) and other times it's because of unstable current from the plug, which is rare and shouldn't happen if it worked before.
Some people also say stock kernel fixes it.
I would recommend the new charger/usb.
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Hi mate, Appreciate the quick response It was indeed the cable!
I hadn't even thought of that and was going straight to different USB chargers. The stock sammy cable & charger had previously worked fine but now wasn't, replacing the cable got me 1000 and 1400 'units' of charging (mA or mAh I think?) - far better than the 100 I was getting earlier on (and only just shy of the 1698 that the stock cable used to get).
Comparing the cable to a good one I would say that perhaps the centre pins are somewhat out of place, so maybe it wasn't making a good connection in the phone? Don't think I did anything nasty to it and I've always been really careful but I guess these things happen. At some point I'll be looking to order a new micro usb cable so if you know of any good ones or ones to avoid then please fill me in
Thanks!
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Hi mate, Appreciate the quick response It was indeed the cable!
I hadn't even thought of that and was going straight to different USB chargers. The stock sammy cable & charger had previously worked fine but now wasn't, replacing the cable got me 1000 and 1400 'units' of charging (mA or mAh I think?) - far better than the 100 I was getting earlier on (and only just shy of the 1698 that the stock cable used to get).
Comparing the cable to a good one I would say that perhaps the centre pins are somewhat out of place, so maybe it wasn't making a good connection in the phone? Don't think I did anything nasty to it and I've always been really careful but I guess these things happen. At some point I'll be looking to order a new micro usb cable so if you know of any good ones or ones to avoid then please fill me in
Thanks!
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Great
The genuine samsung usb cables are very good quality, micro usb cables are a little fragile and overtime they tend to have some problems.
You are getting the right-ish amount of mA now so you're good to go
(Optimal is 2000 for the note 2)
The phone charging slower is a security mechanism in the kernel that detects unstable current and throttles charging to a safe value to prevent damage, you can disable it in STweaks if you want to use the old cable but that's pretty risky.
Protip: the thicker the cable the better, usually.
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The genuine samsung usb cables are very good quality, micro usb cables are a little fragile and overtime they tend to have some problems.
You are getting the right amount of mA now so you're good to go
The phone charging slower is a security mechanism in the kernel that detects unstable current and throttles charging to a safe value to prevent damage, you can disable it in STweaks if you want to use the old cable but that's pretty risky.
Protip: the thicker the cable the better, usually.
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It definitely felt and still looks like a great cable- shame it doesn't function as such I've kept the one that gave me 1400 as my new permanent charger cable for now but actually it wasn't doing anything else before so I may well just continue to use this one!
Ah that would be why then - it presumably detected it jumping all over the place as the pins made and lost connection - but I love my note and think I'll avoid messing with any tweaks that could break it! Think I'll just stick to a new cable
Really appreciate your advice!
I would like to add on...there are people who changed the cables and adapters three Times at the phone store but to no avail.... some believe these cables are faulty from the factory...one guy went to the extent of building his own cable..the guy is good with electricity/electronics concepts (amps, voltage, resistance, watts etc) and funny another guy wanted him to build a custom cable for him and sell it to him here on XDA lol
I faced the same issue..I just threw away the note II adapter..I use my Samsung Galaxy S II cable and it charges decently fast not sure if will be as fast as the original due to minor amp differences but it charges fast and the cable is much longer
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I would like to add on...there are people who changed the cables and adapters three Times at the phone store but to no avail.... some believe these cables are faulty from the factory...one guy went to the extent of building his own cable..the guy is good with electricity/electronics concepts (amps, voltage, resistance, watts etc) and funny another guy wanted him to build a custom cable for him and sell it to him here on XDA lol
I faced the same issue..I just threw away the note II adapter..I use my Samsung Galaxy S II cable and it charges decently fast not sure if will be as fast as the original due to minor amp differences but it charges fast and the cable is much longer
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Could be a faulty batch, Samsung changed my S3's cable/wall adapter here in Qatar for free, so I won't complain.
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Could be a faulty batch, Samsung changed my S3's cable/wall adapter here in Qatar for free, so I won't complain.
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could be.... but the point I'm trying to make even if you don't get a good galaxy note II adapter you could use other Samsung micro USB adapters like galaxy s II adapter I'm using but the voltage could be lower and charging may be slower but faster than the faulty adapter
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could be.... but the point I'm trying to make even if you don't get a good galaxy note II adapter you could use other Samsung micro USB adapters like galaxy s II adapter I'm using but the voltage could be lower and charging may be slower but faster than the faulty adapter
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True, it isn't the voltage, it's the amps.
With an S3 charger the Note 2 will charge twice slower.
The S2 charger will charge even slower.
The S3 charger is 5V/1A
The Note 2 charger is 5V/2A
The S2 charger is 5V/0.7A
yea right !!! I can charge my note II in one and a half to two hours with my s II charger...it's ok for me me used to it now
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I lost the original charger to my 10.1 2014 Edition and I've had problems ever since. Earlier this week I thought I would order a Limefuel 24W 4.8A dual port rapid charger. I thought to myself: Hey I can untick Power saving and have all my needed apps running. Even using a root mod to run 4 way multitasking. Yet it's still sucking up more juice than the charger is spitting out. Am I doing something wrong or did I get a faulty unit from China? This was NEVER a problem when using the Damn Samsung charger along with the foreign adapter dongle it shipped with. I thought getting one so powerful would charge it even faster.
Maybe I should just ship it back and get an official unit from Samsung? Although I don't see how getting less energy will make the tablet charge any better
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I lost the original charger to my 10.1 2014 Edition and I've had problems ever since. Earlier this week I thought I would order a Limefuel 24W 4.8A dual port rapid charger. I thought to myself: Hey I can untick Power saving and have all my needed apps running. Even using a root mod to run 4 way multitasking. Yet it's still sucking up more juice than the charger is spitting out. Am I doing something wrong or did I get a faulty unit from China? This was NEVER a problem when using the Damn Samsung charger along with the foreign adapter dongle it shipped with. I thought getting one so powerful would charge it even faster.
Maybe I should just ship it back and get an official unit from Samsung? Although I don't see how getting less energy will make the tablet charge any better
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4.8 amp should do the trick. Could be a fake unit. Is it heavy? 4.8 amp is pretty much, so it should be as big as a lap top charger.
But remember , a cheap usb cable may also be the problem. Try a short one of good quality.
Edit.Just tried a 1.2 amp Nexus 5 charger on my P605. Charging good on full brightness.
Thanks
KnieveI
KnieveI said:
4.8 amp should do the trick. Could be a fake unit. Is it heavy? 4.8 amp is pretty much, so it should be as big as a lap top charger.
But remember , a cheap usb cable may also be the problem. Try a short one of good quality.
Edit.Just tried a 1.2 amp Nexus 5 charger on my P605. Charging good on full brightness.
Thanks
KnieveI
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The charging circuitry and s/w on the device determine charging speed. Do a search. Someone posted the different charging amperages using the stock charge and Apple and HTC chargers and USB cables. The device detected the latter and charged at about half of the former.
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The charging circuitry and s/w on the device determine charging speed. Do a search. Someone posted the different charging amperages using the stock charge and Apple and HTC chargers and USB cables. The device detected the latter and charged at about half of the former.
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Yes thats obvious and i doesnt even need to " do a search ".
The problem was it wouldnt charge at all.
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Knievel
Does the p600 also not charge correctly with a non samsung charger? I remember my p1000 requiring an adapter that had a resistor between two connections to charge correctly at a laptop or different charger.
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i have a sgh-m919 s4 and my stock usb charger cord is having trouble being recognized by my pc i was wondering where i can get a stock usb charger?
i need the stock one because i do use download mode with odin from time to time and i know you need a stock charger usb cord for it to be recognized by odin and the pc,
can someone point me in the right direction please?
Amazon.com.
Pp.
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Amazon.com.
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I took the time to go through the reviews on Amazon.com of the first page of results for the search "Samsung Galaxy S4 OEM Cable" (link: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_2...TF8&qid=1428580483&spIA=B00SR59P88,B00L5W86BW), and in the reviews for nearly all of the first page items claiming to be OEM - there are reviewers indicating that while the cables may work to charge the Samsung Galaxy S4 (at a rate similar to an OEM cable) these cables are in fact not genuine nor OEM.. In fact, some of the reviewers point out that while the look of the cable, length of the cable, branding of the Samsung name, and product serial number on the cable may look exactly the same as that of an OEM cable they are in fact non-genuine since reviewers have pointed out that the cables tend to break more frequently (ie. tear through cable insulation more easily than OEM cables), or are incorrectly manufactured causing burning of the internal wire leading to sparks/smoke, or charge at a higher rate or lower rate of charge than what an original Samsung Galaxy S4 OEM cable would charge as measured via a diagnostic app.
In short, if Amazon.com really does have a listing for a genuine/OEM/original/stock Samsung Galaxy S4 USB Cable - would someone please link the Amazon.com product page? It goes without saying, that the importance of having a stock Samsung Galaxy S4 USB cable is essential for successfully flashing a Samsung Galaxy S4 without bricking it.
Your sweating this cable thing to the point that your going to have nightmares.
If it's that critical get it directly from Samsung , I look at reviews on products and use that as a guide.
I purchased a 4 ft brand x black cable 3 yrs ago that is constantly attached to the charger and is used daily to charge my S4 and wify's note 3 without any issues whatsoever.
Also purchased a brand x 5ft long tablet cable with no problems charging our 10" and 7" tablet.
Pp.
I've charged and flashed firmwares to phones using a $5 FiveBelow flat charging cable. Paranoia really is a *****.
brian117 said:
I've charged and flashed firmwares to phones using a $5 FiveBelow flat charging cable. Paranoia really is a *****.
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I took the suggestion, and went to my local Five Below and purchased a flat charging cable (Spektrum brand) as described above for my Samsung Galaxy S4; while I haven't tried flashing with the cable yet I can confirm that the cable cannot keep a consistent tethering connection from my phone to my laptop since it frequently disconnects when alot of data is tethered whereas my original OEM Samsung Galaxy S4 cable had no issues with keeping a consistent tether connection. It is my observation that this issue occurs as a result of the cable not being genuine.
In short, does anyone know of any Amazon listing or any other retailer that sells genuine OEM Samsung Galaxy S4 data/charging cables? Or is ordering directly from Samsung via their website the only way to purchase a genuine OEM Samsung Galaxy S4 data/charging cable?
It sounds like your usb connector on the S4 may be wearing out. They can get fussy as they get older.
Hey guys. Just wanna ask some question.
My note 10.1 2014 P601 is now running stock 5.1.1 un-rooted. Basically everything stock. I know that our Note need its own charger to work properly. But I lost the original charger long ago, and I've been using only the USB I bought separately to charge my tablet by connecting it to PC.
Now, my mother just bought a new phone (Galaxy A7) and when I try to charge my tablet with her charger, sometime it shows X mark (which means insufficient, exactly like when i connect to pc via USB cable) on the battery icon, but sometime it shows the lightning (which is fine) icon. The speed of the charge depends on that sign, if on lightning sign, from 0 to 100% takes about 4h. But if on the X mark sign, 4h will just get around 40%.
I don't really know what happened, but I have to unplug then re-plug again and again to get the lightning sign to come up. I then bought a new charger (from a legit well-known store and they said it's the best quality) and it does the same thing. I haven't got a chance to borrow anyone's original note charger yet as I found no one using this device. And now I start to think it's the problem with my Note more likely than anything. I haven't tried to reinstall the firmware either as I just updated the firmware like few months ago.
I've been using it for about a year btw. Sorry for my English. And looking forward to hear from you all.
The usb jack or its solder contacts may be damaged. Also, if no case is used and the backside of the Note squeezed when holding it in your hands, the cables for usb and display may work themselves slowly out of their pcb connectors. I don't know if the squeeze theory is right, but definitely there are many loose cables...
A charger must be Qualcomm Quickcharge or Apple iPad compatible, 5v 2A. I haven't used a Sammy Charger for a single time,tho they seem just too good to throw away.
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The usb jack or its solder contacts may be damaged. Also, if no case is used and the backside of the Note squeezed when holding it in your hands, the cables for usb and display may work themselves slowly out of their pcb connectors. I don't know if the squeeze theory is right, but definitely there are many loose cables...
A charger must be Qualcomm Quickcharge or Apple iPad compatible, 5v 2A. I haven't used a Sammy Charger for a single time,tho they seem just too good to throw away.
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Are you sure the Qualcomm Quickcharge would work on this P601? I checked the list before and I didn't see the Note 10.1. Not even the Note 3 which was released together. I afraid that being "not compatible" might fry the device.
If you're using one and not having any problem, can you post the link to the product that you're using and working well?
I forgot about the different SoCs. However, all models charge at 5v/2A and the signaling technique used for Quickcharge seems to be borrowed from that of the Apple iPad, the Exynos based models should be just the same. I plugged my Note into an Apple compatible charger, which was from a time when Android smartphones were charging at 0,9A and Android tablets had proprietory connectors, and it was charging at 2A.