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So when will Google Wallet be ready for Canada?
Google hinted that it would be released in the first quarter of 2012 and no announcement has even been made yet.
Will us canucks see the day of the Google Wallet soon or will have to wait a year or two?
This got my hopes up but it still hasn't come through. It isn't "early" 2012 anymore.
http://www.techvibes.com/blog/googl...y-2012-competition-ready-to-charge-2011-10-18
I keep hearing the banks and the carriers are working on a solution as they all want in on this and that we should be seeing something within the next 6 months here in Canada. It may or may not be Google Wallet per se but some variation of it.
Hwaiting said:
I keep hearing the banks and the carriers are working on a solution as they all want in on this and that we should be seeing something within the next 6 months here in Canada. It may or may not be Google Wallet per se but some variation of it.
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Oh really? Its still been a while though. I'll wait around a bit then
If Google Wallet doesn't come through maybe PayPass Wallet will.
WiredPirate said:
If Google Wallet doesn't come through maybe PayPass Wallet will.
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I guess with PayPass wallet there will be less middlemen... so less problems?
Yeah waiting on Google Wallet's Canada debut as well. Bought the GNex for this reason as well. Still nothing. Hope that it comes up North here soon!
Or at least the PayPass wallet brings with it the goodies that were promised with the release of the GNex.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/15/r...yments-in-canada-for-nfc-capable-smartphones/
Its only for blackberry phones. Why is Google wallet so slow to reach canada? We're practically a stone throw away.
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ginobili1 said:
Its only for blackberry phones. Why is Google wallet so slow to reach canada? We're practically a stone throw away.
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to quote southpark... "blame canada"
ginobili1 said:
Its only for blackberry phones. Why is Google wallet so slow to reach canada? We're practically a stone throw away.
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Exactly.
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I wouldn't expect it anytime soon. Google has a very bad track record in Canada. Look at Google Voice and Google Checkout.
Since the new wallet app updated on the 1st (v 1.5) it's possible to add a canadian credit card. Only thing was I had to enter in a US billing address (an incorrect one obviously). I read on another forum that you can then change this to your correct CAN billing address on the google wallet website and it should work but on the site it shows my can address already.
So in summary, I have my CAN cc on the wallet app, but the billing address is incorrect so I'm pretty sure it won't work. If i could change it back i'm certain it would start working legitimately
more info in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809630&page=4
For the last 2 days I've been stumbling across this "ISIS Mobile payment" platform. It looks to be getting a lot of attention and is supported by AT&T, T Mobile, and Verizon. According to a few sources it will be available for a few devices (including ours) next month.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/28/isis-mobile-payment-system-primed-for-september-launch-supporte/
http://androidspin.com/2012/08/28/list-of-approved-isis-devices-by-carrier-do-you-have-one/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...ystem-to-debut-in-september-after-delays.html
http://androidcommunity.com/isis-mobile-payments-coming-in-september-20120828/
So my question is, why is ISIS getting the attention and props from the carriers over Google Wallet? Is it more secure? Is it financially supported by the carriers?
I'm confused...
the carriers want the money that such a service brings and are trying to screw Google
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ISIS is a way for operators to get money out of NFC, that's why the operators are blocking Google Wallet from working. This is the same as Tethering.
The only thing starting next month is a test trial in Salt Lake City and Austin. Which, I believe, has been delayed from a previously announced July launch. I'm guessing a wider rollout will be sometime next year.
a4ol said:
ISIS is a way for operators to get money out of NFC, that's why the operators are blocking Google Wallet from working. This is the same as Tethering.
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Interesting... Makes perfect sense.
I've been reading and saw few YouTube clips... And Iris system looks 10 times more difficult to purchase. (compared to google) the security is ten times greater due to constant changing of the back of plastic 3 digit security code. (whew!)
Google wallet is obviously less with security.
Since Iris is backed by the 3 major 4G and lte service. Many vendors and merchants will adapt this feature very soon. This payment system was long existed in South Korea (visited galaxy s2 days) and citizens use it like it's their wallet.
Not sure Americans would be able to adapt and execute the isis business model and availability of credit cards.
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woostar88 said:
Interesting... Makes perfect sense.
I've been reading and saw few YouTube clips... And Iris system looks 10 times more difficult to purchase. (compared to google) the security is ten times greater due to constant changing of the back of plastic 3 digit security code. (whew!)
Google wallet is obviously less with security.
Since Iris is backed by the 3 major 4G and lte service. Many vendors and merchants will adapt this feature very soon. This payment system was long existed in South Korea (visited galaxy s2 days) and citizens use it like it's their wallet.
Not sure Americans would be able to adapt and execute the isis business model and availability of credit cards.
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Bull**** NFC chip than. Just let us use google wallet... Perfect option why wait for something else that does the exact same ****ing thing.. Why let us use all these other Google apps but not Wallet? The limitations on our device (and all other devices) are ridiculous especially if you paid a lot of money for it (which we already do)...
SebasC said:
Bull**** NFC chip than. Just let us use google wallet... Perfect option why wait for something else that does the exact same ****ing thing.. Why let us use all these other Google apps but not Wallet? The limitations on our device (and all other devices) are ridiculous especially if you paid a lot of money for it (which we already do)...
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Just after I left Verizon, they were fined by the FCC for blocking tethering apps. It was part of their agreement when acquiring LTE spectrum that the customer would be free to use whatever software they wanted on their devices. I wonder if they are also blocking Google Wallet since this would also be in breach of their agreement.
As for ATT and T-Mobile, it would be nice to have support without resorting to workarounds.
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Just after I left Verizon, they were fined by the FCC for blocking tethering apps. It was part of their agreement when acquiring LTE spectrum that the customer would be free to use whatever software they wanted on their devices. I wonder if they are also blocking Google Wallet since this would also be in breach of their agreement.
As for ATT and T-Mobile, it would be nice to have support without resorting to workarounds.
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I have to think there's an Anti-Trust class action coming if they dont change their ways pretty quickly here.
woostar88 said:
Interesting... Makes perfect sense.
I've been reading and saw few YouTube clips... And Iris system looks 10 times more difficult to purchase. (compared to google) the security is ten times greater due to constant changing of the back of plastic 3 digit security code. (whew!)
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Yeah, I tried using the Iris system and now I wear an eye patch.
woostar88 said:
Since Iris is backed by the 3 major 4G and lte service. Many vendors and merchants will adapt this feature very soon. This payment system was long existed in South Korea (visited galaxy s2 days) and citizens use it like it's their wallet.
Not sure Americans would be able to adapt and execute the isis business model and availability of credit cards.
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I guess this ISIS release is a positive in this regard as it will give us more places to use Google Wallet. Right now I don't go to a single place regularly that allows me to use Google wallet.
The best part is fine print
www paywithisis com/terms-of-service.xhtml#four
Do you guys think Sprint have something do with Google Wallet not to be released on others carriers. And in the other hand some says that phones from other carriers not sprint doesnt have the corrected codes for wallet. That google would have to update them
gypsy214 said:
Do you guys think Sprint have something do with Google Wallet not to be released on others carriers. And in the other hand some says that phones from other carriers not sprint doesnt have the corrected codes for wallet. That google would have to update them
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Plenty of people have Google Wallet up and running on other carriers besides Sprint. Obviously it is a work around, but anyone that truly wants to use Google Wallet doesn't have to look very far or put much effort in getting it to work for their device regardless of carrier.
ingenious247 said:
Yeah, I tried using the Iris system and now I wear an eye patch.
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I don't think any one (other than me) got that. But very funny
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Eye saw what he did there.
No ISIS for you! (said in soup nazi voice)
I live in Salt Lake, one of the test cities. I got the isis sim card from tmobile but isis wouldn't install on my s3. I retored my stock rom and it installed just fine. Then I installed my stock rom after rooting and got the following (see image below) when i installed and tried to run isis.
Bottom line, u root, no isis.
So far the only isis specific terminal I've seen here in salt lake is the light rail system. I tried google wallet on it and it said I paid but the transaction never went through. I'm hoping the pay termials will take either. I applaud that isis may make nfc more visible and acceptable to the general public but restrictions make it doa.
All that said, im back to liquid smooth....
f*** Isis, Google FTW
btw how do the carriers make money off nfc with Isis?
AttachedSilver said:
f*** Isis, Google FTW
btw how do the carriers make money off nfc with Isis?
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Seriously? They get a cut of each transaction. How do you think atm's make money?
Here's your sign.
tony yayo said:
Seriously? They get a cut of each transaction. How do you think atm's make money?
Here's your sign.
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So Google doesn't make money for the carriers & that's why they block it?
I have been wondering since Google Wallet uses NFC can i program an NFC tag to act in place of my phone to make NFC purchases? i have used Google Wallet on my nexus 7, so i know that you do not need a data connection, beyond that i am not too knowledgeable on how Google Wallet works. Can this be done? i am sick of waiting for ISIS mobile wallet, i have had the s3 for almost a year and its still only available in 2 cities, way to get screwed out of the main feature i wanted from my phone
Imscuba said:
I have been wondering since Google Wallet uses NFC can i program an NFC tag to act in place of my phone to make NFC purchases? i have used Google Wallet on my nexus 7, so i know that you do not need a data connection, beyond that i am not too knowledgeable on how Google Wallet works. Can this be done? i am sick of waiting for ISIS mobile wallet, i have had the s3 for almost a year and its still only available in 2 cities, way to get screwed out of the main feature i wanted from my phone
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The NFC chip is a secure one. I don't know the specifics, But I can promise you it won't work with a standard NFC tag, sorry!
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Yep.
Wasn't there a plan by Google to create a physical card for your Wallet account with PayPass? It's probably still in the works, we'll see if it's coming soon!
As we've seen at I/O, they're very invested in Wallet (sending money through Gmail, faster mobile checkout, etc.)
yea, it is such a shame that the only carrier in my area that allows google wallet is sprint and they have terrible coverage here.
Asovse1 said:
Yep.
Wasn't there a plan by Google to create a physical card for your Wallet account with PayPass? It's probably still in the works, we'll see if it's coming soon!
As we've seen at I/O, they're very invested in Wallet (sending money through Gmail, faster mobile checkout, etc.)
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I thought I read something saying they canceled the physical card plains
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Coming from a Nexux, using Ggoogle Wallet, to a Note 4 - I am curious if it will work. Anyone have any feedback?
msherman123 said:
Coming from a Nexux, using Ggoogle Wallet, to a Note 4 - I am curious if it will work. Anyone have any feedback?
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Unless something's changed, not out of the box. It's carrier blocked. When I had a Note 2 you had to do a bunch of s/w modifications to the Wallet app and change your build.prop to make it work. The Note 3 had a NFC chip with a secure token that didn't work with Wallet at all. Check the SGS5 forum as their experiences will probably be the same as ours assuming the NFC chip is the same. I've moved to Softcard and have been getting $50 a month back from Amex Serve since July, the offer's good until the end of the year.
Google Wallet's pretty much dead because the financial players won't share marketing data with them. A long discussion here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/google-wallet-tap-pay-note-4-t2894842
BarryH_GEG said:
I've moved to Softcard and have been getting $50 a month back from Amex Serve since July, the offer's good until the end of the year.
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Can you provide a link to that Softcard promotion?
Thanks!
I don't think they're blocking it anymore from AT&T. I can confirm my Note 3 absolutely did not work because of whatever secure element issue it had. But my AT&T branded LG G3 allows me to download and use Google Wallet. Although as much as I don't really care for the service, Softcard (ISIS) is giving away the farm on deals to get people to use their payment system.
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Can you provide a link to that Softcard promotion?
Thanks!
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It's automatic. All you need to do is get and connect an Amex Serve card to Softcard. Both Serve and Softcard are pretty cool and their apps very well done and refined. I'm known at my Walgreen's as the "please ring it separately" guy.
https://www.paywithisis.com/offers/serve.html
BarryH_GEG said:
It's automatic. All you need to do is get and connect an Amex Serve card to Softcard. Both Serve and Softcard are pretty cool and their apps very well done and refined. I'm known at my Walgreen's as the "please ring it separately" guy.
https://www.paywithisis.com/offers/serve.html
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Why would you have to ring up each item separately when using it?
matrix2004 said:
Why would you have to ring up each item separately when using it?
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You get $1.00 off per transaction. Thee $2.00 items rung up separately end up being $3.00. Three $2.00 items rung together ends up being $5.00. $50.00 a month is almost two transactions a day which is a lot. Seperating stuff means I don't leave anything on the table.
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You get $1.00 off per transaction. Thee $2.00 items rung up separately end up being $3.00. Three $2.00 items rung together ends up being $5.00. $50.00 a month is almost two transactions a day which is a lot. Seperating stuff means I don't leave anything on the table.
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The cashiers must despise you.
smithwicks said:
The cashiers must despise you.
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I only do it "off peak." They actually think it's pretty cool and quite a few with NFC-equipped phone's got Serve cards to get in on the deal.
I work in a store with tap n pay. I use it now with wallet because software won't install on my rooted phone. Once my note 4 comes in, I might have to do this.
I am coming from the S5 and can confirm that Google Wallet works just fine since they have "changed" the way it works. Given that, I would almost guarantee that it will work with the Note 4 as well.
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mickeywdw1254 said:
I am coming from the S5 and can confirm that Google Wallet works just fine since they have "changed" the way it works. Given that, I would almost guarantee that it will work with the Note 4 as well.
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I have it working on my S5 as well, but I am rooted (ISIS doesn't work now, obviously, but who cares? lol). So I hope everyone is correct that the changes to wallet will allow it to work on a stock Note 4.
peaster3 said:
I have it working on my S5 as well, but I am rooted (ISIS doesn't work now, obviously, but who cares? lol). So I hope everyone is correct that the changes to wallet will allow it to work on a stock Note 4.
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Actually, if you install root cloak you can still use ISIS (now SoftCard). Especially since they are giving a $1 back until the end of the year!
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mickeywdw1254 said:
Actually, if you install root cloak you can still use ISIS (now SoftCard). Especially since they are giving a $1 back until the end of the year!
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Cool! Thanks for that.
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Cool! Thanks for that.
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Got my AT&T note 4 today.. used wallet already. Works fine.
I have AT&T note 4 and wallet is working fine it seems. It installed and set up no problem. I haven't actually used it to pay for anything but from what I can tell I'd say it works.
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boufa said:
Got my AT&T note 4 today.. used wallet already. Works fine.
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Rastabolino said:
I have AT&T note 4 and wallet is working fine it seems. It installed and set up no problem. I haven't actually used it to pay for anything but from what I can tell I'd say it works.
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On my Note3, the wallet also works fine, however tap-to-pay is no where to be found. The app starts normal, i'm able to view my latest transactions, i'm able to pull up my balance, but tap-to-pay feature is no where.
Is this the same for the Note 4?
lawalty said:
On my Note3, the wallet also works fine, however tap-to-pay is no where to be found. The app starts normal, i'm able to view my latest transactions, i'm able to pull up my balance, but tap-to-pay feature is no where.
Is this the same for the Note 4?
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I was on DN3 on the Note 2 and tap n pay worked. Didn't have a note 3. On the Note 4 however I can say that on stock, wallet works. It's funny, isis/softcard is built in and pre loaded, so have to get wallet from the play store. But there is a slip of paper in the box advertising wallet. So they are both accessible and fully working on the N4.
After installing wallet you have to go into the NFC settings and change your authorized tap to pay app to wallet.
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I was on DN3 on the Note 2 and tap n pay worked. Didn't have a note 3. On the Note 4 however I can say that on stock, wallet works. It's funny, isis/softcard is built in and pee loaded, so have to get wallet from the play store. But there is a slip of paper in the box advertising wallet. So they are both accessible and fully working on the N4.
After installing wallet you have to go into the NFC settings and change your authorized tap to pay app to wallet.
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This is in INCREDIBLE! When I was with t-mobile (last year) I returned my Note3 to purchase a Nexus5, only because of Google Wallet tap-to-pay feature. I know, it sounds stupid, and hard headed. Now, since i'm with at&t, and got over my stupidity, I sold my nexus5 on swappa, purchased a Note3 on their Next plan (12 months), to enjoy my Note3 again.
Now, with the good news of Google Wallet tap-to-pay feature being available on the Note4, this is totally AWESOME!
Coming from the note 3 it was disabled. I was able to add a credit card on my note 4 and tap and pay is enabled and ready. Has anyone tried it on this phone? Im at work so I cant test it out, but it seems as if verizon lets you use either softcard or wallet now?
Wallet works fine. Use it nearly every day. Even on Verizon.
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marthinollys said:
Wallet works fine. Use it nearly every day. Even on Verizon.
Note 4
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Thank for confirming this. Might actually start using it now!
So if you have Google wallet and your wallet account balance is at 0.00. I tap and pay using my linked debit card. Do I have to pay the 3.9% fee for that transaction?
Never mind. Went to a few places to try them out. Unless softcard has a promotion I'll be using Google wallet. Plus I get a better transaction history using Google wallet vs softcard and the amex serve card.