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T-Mobile EDGE Too Slow!

I'm getting some really poor performance from the EDGE internet connection sharing on my Dash. I have 4 signal bars. When I was using my Sony GC89 PCMCIA data card I regularly got 200K-240K down now I'm getting like 34K down (slower than my dial-up modem).
When I first started using internet connection sharing on the Dash I was getting better speed. I recently switched from the $49.00 T-Mo VPN with hotpsot (no line) to the $19.99 T-Mo Total Internet with hotspot and a phone line. I dont think this is the problem but I don't know for sure.
Anyone with a Dash got any ideas why I would get such slow speeds on EDGE data?

Probably, because T-Mobile is not focusing on the Edge network anymore. They are into the new "3G" network now. This is their new baby. It's not just theirs. I am just saying, this is where all their "chips" are right now.

My god man, god is smiting you that is why you now get 20k. I could only ever get 80-160k. Usually 80-120. I didn't know edge could even go that fast. I think it is a shared resource. It is choppy as hell around lunch in downtown philly. If there are new users and they haven't upgraded capacity your speeds should decrease. Is it the same on weekends .. off hours?
Opera Mini is about 2-3 seconds for everything. I wish I could figure out how to get it to work on a tethered computer. That is something I'll work on.
I'm gonna get the released today tablet hp tx2500. Looks just about perfect can't wait. I'm gonna need all the unfirewalled wireless internet access I can get.

Mine seems just fine, for T-Mobile that is LOL
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163 kbps down (~0.16 Mbps, 20 KB/s) ↓
54 kbps up (~0.05 Mbps, 7 KB/s) ↑
Details:
250 KB downloaded in 12.602 seconds
100 KB uploaded in 15.2 seconds
Speed @ 80% of the average for tmodns.net
3 times faster than 56k dialup
Tested on: 2008.06.10 20:31 EDT
Tested from: openo.co.uk
Test ID: PX8QSECQCPKW
Browser/OS: Opera/9.27 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
IP Address: 208.54.xx.xxx
Provider: tmodns.net
Location: US

Do you need another service account set up specifically with your wireless card? Can you clone your sim card to use with the card? Did your dash previously get about the same speed as your wireless card? Dude last time I visited my family in greece they were paying 75$ for 256k dsl. Even with the huge latency issues wireless brings I never knew people actually reached the max of edge speed in some places. Well probably everywhere but philly...

Outerdepth - Yes 3G is in NY now - we can only dream - I just checked Verizon, Sprint and ATT in the Chicago area and they all want $60 for unlimited (5GBmax) data. Wonder if T-Mobile will give up true unlimited on 3G and follow suit or break the trend.
Yianaki - The T-Mobile network reports connection speed at 214K but it frequently bursts past 240K. I imagine the average speed would be more along the lines of 160K-180K but I'm only getting 24K-32K now.
Bupahs - Yes your speed report is what I was accustomed to using the Sony GC89 data card. I wonder if it's the dash or the fact that I had them change my internet plan. What plan are you on. $19.99? What device are you using?
Yianaki - I just recently got the Dash and changed my plans from a data only line for GC89 and a voice line with T-zones to myFaves Family 2 line with $19.99 data on the other line and no data on the original data line. Whew. I had been noticing problems with web pages and emails loading images and slowness. I just did the speed test today and was shocked. I really think this started when they moved the data to the other line.
I'm going to call T-Mobile right now after seeing Bupahs speed report. I update the thread later.
Update: Just called T-Mobile and the said they will put in a service call to check the area within ten miles. If things don't improve in 72 hours I am to call in again.
« SpeedGuide.net Speed Test Results »
35 kbps down (~0.04 Mbps, 4 KB/s)↓
15 kbps up (~0.02 Mbps, 2 KB/s)↑
100 KB downloaded in 23.578 seconds
100 KB uploaded in 53.391 seconds
Tested on: 2008.06.10 23:03 EDT
Tested from: globalgoldtalk.com
Test Link: http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/results.php?test=UHGI4EXAGA33
Latency: 31ms
Provider: nameservices.net
Location: Fayetteville, NC, US

SO just how fast is the 3G supposed to be?

here is mine

GJSmith3rd said:
Bupahs - Yes your speed report is what I was accustomed to using the Sony GC89 data card. I wonder if it's the dash or the fact that I had them change my internet plan. What plan are you on. $19.99? What device are you using?
I'm going to call T-Mobile right now after seeing Bupahs speed report. I update the thread later.
Update: Just called T-Mobile and the said they will put in a service call to check the area within ten miles. If things don't improve in 72 hours I am to call in again.
« SpeedGuide.net Speed Test Results »
35 kbps down (~0.04 Mbps, 4 KB/s)↓
15 kbps up (~0.02 Mbps, 2 KB/s)↑
100 KB downloaded in 23.578 seconds
100 KB uploaded in 53.391 seconds
Tested on: 2008.06.10 23:03 EDT
Tested from: globalgoldtalk.com
Test Link: http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/results.php?test=UHGI4EXAGA33
Latency: 31ms
Provider: nameservices.net
Location: Fayetteville, NC, US
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I have the HTC Dash (T-Mobile). I'd say it was due to them changing your plan, they (T-Mo) always seems to "mess something up" when switching plans LOL

im by logan square and im having the same issues with the edge too i thought i was the only one!

The bandwidth gods have punished me wrongfully - who can defeat the gods?
But seriously it's either the switch to the other plan or the T-Mobile Dash radio is inferior to the Sony GC89. But I briefly remember testing the Dash before the switch was completed and it performed equally well. I got hosed by the switch.

i just went to speedguide from my dash in opera mini and got some crazy numbers
1407kbps down
551kbps up
thats with the $20 unlimited edge plan

tonyeltigre said:
i just went to speedguide from my dash in opera mini and got some crazy numbers
1407kbps down
551kbps up
thats with the $20 unlimited edge plan
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I got the same type of thing as well. However, keep in mind, that Opera Mini's data runs compressed through their servers, so it isn't a real test in that sense (but it IS good in the way that it works in terms of browsing).
If you want to do a real test, use IE I guess (I could never get it to forward correctly to the results page).
I used some other test page with IE and saw something like 125kbps down, though. That seems more realistic.

To add to this, make sure your Wi-Fi is turned off. lol
ruinertt said:
I got the same type of thing as well. However, keep in mind, that Opera Mini's data runs compressed through their servers, so it isn't a real test in that sense (but it IS good in the way that it works in terms of browsing).
If you want to do a real test, use IE I guess (I could never get it to forward correctly to the results page).
I used some other test page with IE and saw something like 125kbps down, though. That seems more realistic.
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Mikey1022 said:
To add to this, make sure your Wi-Fi is turned off. lol
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It was/is. No worries on that one.

anyone else experiencing slow 3G on cricket?

I'm chalking this up as a LOS issue because I've had an HTC hero, incredible and incredible 2 on this same account getting upwards of 1 MBits per second and this GS II is getting more like 20-60 kbits per second which is basically not even usable. I can't stream YouTube, can't hardly surf the web, can barely navigate google maps and it takes 2-3 minutes to get a GPS lock. Help? :-(
chris

Don't feel bad I live in Indiana and cricket has always been slow from what I've seen.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

I think you failed to see the point. We are talking about three different previous androids getting upwards of 1 mbits/sec vs. this GS II getting 70 kbits/sec. Clearly something is wrong. It doesn't matter if I have full bars of signal my ping in milliseconds is around 800 and my downloads/uploads are shockingly slow. Looking for a recommendation on a different modem or different PST settings though I've flashed my fair share of androids to cricket with great success so I can safely assume this is a modem issue. Problem with that is that I keep hearing that EL29 was the best gingerbread modem for this phone, really just hoping that someone can help me out.
Chris

I have seen side by side tests that would indicate that the Samsungs have a weaker antanae than the HTCs

Just flashed FF18 with Calk's E4GT EL29 ROM and speedtest.net app can't even find a server. Web browsing seems slower. Ugh
Chris

Have now flashed FC18, FD19, and FF18 (latest) all of which made my ping basically double but didn't seem to change my downstream or upstream. It did however disconnect from Cricket 3G / 1X whatever I was connected to at the time more frequently than EL29 does.
Good grief. I still have my HTC Incredible on another line with cricket same plan same signal getting 400ms or less ping (E4GT gets me 800+) and 400kbps-1mbps vs the E4GT's 20-70kpbs. This is insane...???!!!
Chris

Gtdotcfg said:
Have now flashed FC18, FD19, and FF18 (latest) all of which made my ping basically double but didn't seem to change my downstream or upstream. It did however disconnect from Cricket 3G / 1X whatever I was connected to at the time more frequently than EL29 does.
Good grief. I still have my HTC Incredible on another line with cricket same plan same signal getting 400ms or less ping (E4GT gets me 800+) and 400kbps-1mbps vs the E4GT's 20-70kpbs. This is insane...???!!!
Chris
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Yes, get used to it. The S1/S2 **** poor antennas are well documented. The only thing u can do is flash diff modems until u find 1 that works well for ur area...other than that, make sure ur using a rom with 3g tweaks built in, or apply the tweaks urself. ....im not sure, but u could also try flashin a verizon prl and force roaming with Roam Control....

go to www.cricketuser.com they are a didicated website for flashing phones to cricket. When i use to play around with cricket you have to find out if your APN files is proxy server or non proxy

Thank you so much for your replies, I did get the slow 3G issue fixed. My HA SPI and AAA SPI were 4D2, and 4D2 when it needed to be 12C and 2 respectively. Also changed the registry retry timeouts to match my previous HTC Hero, Incredible, and Incredible 2 at 1750 ms instead of 2000ms but I doubt that setting had anything to do with it. Now seeing a normal 500 kbps or higher downstream
Chris

And yes I am using proxy settings via the app Anycut (activity: proxy settings) due to me being grandfathered into the $40 unlimited everything plan. I know I could pay $15 extra per month for the Android Plan and get slightly faster 3G without the need for the proxy settings but it just doesn't seem worth it to me.
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No data with HTC One X (S720E) on $30 "Walmart" plan

Using a T-Mobile micro SIM which works fine for voice in my S720E (factory unlocked intl model).
I cannot get the phone to connect for Data. It says "Disconnected" right under Mobile Network (which is turned on).
The phone built-in SIM Toolkit won't work either to pick up the APN settings from the SIM.
So I entered the APN settings manually under Settings > Mobile Network > Access Point Names - I finish off, hit save, it says Saved but then a message appears and says No SIM detected (that's not true obviously).
These are the APN settings I found via Google. Are they correct for the $30 pre-paid monthly "Walmart" plan 100 mns/ UL text and web?
APN: epc.tmobile.com
Proxy: not set
Port: not set
Username: none
Password: ****
Server: *
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy: 216.155.165.50
MMS port: 8080
MCC: 310
MNC:260
Authentication Type: Not set
APN Type: not set
The micro SIM works fine and gets EDGE on my iPhone 4S and Galaxy SIII GT-I9300 (both factory unlocked).
Should mention callingmart has a 5% off T-Mobile refills with coupon FALL125 good until 10/3/2012.
Hope it helps someone.
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More than likely you got one of the newer micro Sims that aren't capadable with this phone. The ones with a picture of people on there. Sound weird I know. But the older tmo Sims that's all white and just says tmobile on it will work and get you some edge speeds. Only downside is most stores won't have those anymore.
Check out this link for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689624
from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Thank you. I had seen that thread and got the APN settings from there. But I hadn't paid attention to the discussion at the end.
I just got it from a corporate T-Mobile retail store yesterday.
I suspected the SIM might be the problem but then it works on my other phones so....
The micro SIM shows "TM9190" on the gold platted contacts side and version 50.05 on the back side. I'll go today to try and get one older than 50.05.

RF12 said:
Thank you. I had seen that thread and got the APN settings from there. But I hadn't paid attention to the discussion at the end.
I just got it from a corporate T-Mobile retail store yesterday.
I suspected the SIM might be the problem but then it works on my other phones so....
The micro SIM shows "TM9190" on the gold platted contacts side and version 50.05 on the back side. I'll go today to try and get one older than 50.05.
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You need a non-GBA SIM to get data on the One X. I had the same issue.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Why would you want to use a T-mobile based plan on a phone that can't get T-Mobile 3/"4"G anyway? (HOX doesn't support AWS band...) You need an AT&T Straight Talk SIM to use high speed data on your phone, not a T-Mobile one.

Babydoll25 said:
You need a non-GBA SIM to get data on the One X. I had the same issue.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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Time to start calling to see what store has any.
phobos512 said:
Why would you want to use a T-mobile based plan on a phone that can't get T-Mobile 3/"4"G anyway? (HOX doesn't support AWS band...) You need an AT&T Straight Talk SIM to use high speed data on your phone, not a T-Mobile one.
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T-Mobile has or will have 3G on 1,900MHz very soon. It's already on in some parts of Manhattan, places I go to like Fort Lee, NJ, Woodbury, NY etc.
And it's cheap: $30. Straight Talk has a horrible track record of cutting people off etc. Can't risk losing my #.
On at&t, I'd just get the $50 unlimited everything (non-smart phone plan) on pre-paid and pop the SIM in an factory unlocked phone and it works.
In both cases, it's even cheaper if you buy refills online with discounts at places like callingmart.

More info for the ones like me with this problem:
http://androidforums.com/htc-one-x-xl/533805-new-t-mobile-sim-issues-unlocked-htc-one-x.html
With T-Mobile, only "non-GBA" micro SIM cards version 50.01 will work on the HTC One X S720E (factory unlocked) to get data.
Here is the T-Mobile Support doc explaining what a GBA SIM is:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2818

OK - I managed to find a 50.01 SIM (full size) at a non-corporate T-Mobile store, cut it down to micro size and now it's working.
This place has 6 more of these if any of you guys need one $15.

RF12 said:
OK - I managed to find a 50.01 SIM (full size) at a non-corporate T-Mobile store, cut it down to micro size and now it's working.
This place has 6 more of these if any of you guys need one $15.
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Dude, if you can still get one, I'd happily pay for it and the shipping (preferably overnight or express), plus like a $15 commission for finding and sending it to me.
I've been looking all over for these and have almost given up hope. I am seriously debating switching to an S3 (although, I really don't want to), so any help you could provide, I would be forever in your debt. I am sick of being stuck with only wifi for my data when I am paying a 5GB data plan on the phone itself.
You can PM me and we can figure out all the details.

Sure, np. PM on its way.

Guys - mailed two to two forums members. There are 4 left.

RF12 said:
Guys - mailed two to two forums members. There are 4 left.
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RF12 was a huge lifesaver! And he was quick with mailing it out too. He mailed it out Saturday and I got it on Tuesday (he is in New York and sent it to Utah).

I have managed to find more of these if anyone needs one.

"$30 pre-paid monthly "Walmart" plan"
How exactly would you get data on the 30.00 ST plan? Is the problem not that you need the clearly stated 45.00 plan for data??

bailey37821 said:
"$30 pre-paid monthly "Walmart" plan"
How exactly would you get data on the 30.00 ST plan? Is the problem not that you need the clearly stated 45.00 plan for data??
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T-Mobile offers 2 different $30 plans for prepaid. One provides 100 minutes, and unlimited text and data (5GB at unrestricted speeds). The other is a combined 1500 text and minutes and 30MB of data.

[Q] LTE speed drop

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that their LTE transfer speed drops after 3-4 seconds of high speed bursting.
I can consistently see this in the speedtest.net app, and also in large google market downloads.
The problem seems to kick in when the transfer speed goes over >~24mbps, and then it will just suddenly drop right down to pretty much 0, before slowly continuing at a much reduced speed. Same happens with the upload speed, but it seems to kick in around ~20mbps or less.
I've seen this at various places around the Bay Area in CA, so its not related to any local radio towers :-/
I hope my radio is not a lemon.. I first saw this when the phone was straight out the box, but I just shrugged it off. But its persistently there... (and I've 0x1'd my know now..)

Check out some T-Mobile specific forums for your answer. I don't think it's your phone. Try setting your phone for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band to see if that is different.
It's believed that tmobile is still working on their tiered QoS. If you have unlimited you get bumped, for now.
Sent from my Note 3

benefit14snake said:
Check out some T-Mobile specific forums for your answer. I don't think it's your phone. Try setting your phone for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band to see if that is different.
It's believed that tmobile is still working on their tiered QoS. If you have unlimited you get bumped, for now.
Sent from my Note 3
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Thanks, I will try the band idea.
I've asked the question on Tmobile's support forms, the issue may be QoS related, but who knows.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/56049
I have an ATT/straighttalk SIM coming on Monday to do some additional tests with.

benefit14snake said:
Check out some T-Mobile specific forums for your answer. I don't think it's your phone. Try setting your phone for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band to see if that is different.
It's believed that tmobile is still working on their tiered QoS. If you have unlimited you get bumped, for now.
Sent from my Note 3
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How do we do this? And any issues if you do?

i get this issue as well. one thing i have noticed is that when you download a large app (50+ megs, which is actually a small app..) it will throttle me to less than 500 kbps after the first 20 seconds or 50-60 megs of progress. it stays there and never speeds back up.. i have cancelled many 100+ mb apps during downloading because they were literally constantly slowing down to the point where i didn't think they'd even finish until i hit my home wifi point. it does this on stock rom, darthstalker rom, saber kernel, compulsion kernel, stock kernel... i don't think it's the device, i think it's the service. going to keep on testing different combinations and see if i can find a fix irregardless. slow and insanely inconsistent data speeds are gonna make me go back too ATT even though i just switched to T-Mobile 2 days ago. a reliable connection is worth the extra $40/month to me.
*it's also worth noting, since i activated the TMo service yesterday, i haven't once seen more than two bars of service although i am in an area that is not largely populated and vastly surrounded by "great connection" area on T-Mobile:s page.

teknowiz23 said:
slow and insanely inconsistent data speeds are gonna make me go back too ATT even though i just switched to T-Mobile 2 days ago. a reliable connection is worth the extra $40/month to me.
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Are you on the 5GB/$30 prepaid plan? I wonder if the throttling is an unofficial policy on the prepaid plans.

Nope, on the normal plan that was supposed to take the place of the contracts. I get a bill at the end of the cycle like I did with att. Still happening. Its like anything I download hits a throttle after the first 200 megs. Lte speeds of 3-6 megs per sec, then bam... Sub 1 meg per sec the rest of the download. Even if there's 1gb+ left to go.
Sent from my SM-N900T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

I've been discussing this same problem over on HowardForums forums for a while: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1814258-Video-Streaming-being-throttled?p=15278529
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Recently, I've personally concluded that it has to do with T-Mobile working on towers in my area. There was a period of about a week or so where I was experiencing odd performance on both HSPA+ and LTE, where speeds will be fantastic for about 3-5 seconds, before dropping WAY down. Things have greatly improved recently. I did several tests the other day in several locations, and only one tower in particular resulted in the odd speeds in multiple tests. The next day, things were perfect. Then again, they recently went from 5x5 LTE to 10x10, so that could've had something to do with it.
My recommendation is to wait it out.
FYI: I'm on the $30/mo. prepaid plan (5GB @ high-seed, unlimited @ 2G).

https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/405454376916897797
"Very small # customers saw slower data recently and only when downloading very large files. Minor software issue; Fix going in place today"
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"Very small # customers saw slower data recently and only when downloading very large files. Minor software issue; Fix going in place today"

Less than 1 mps LTE

Hello guys is there anything I can do to increase my LTE speed it is ridiculously slow. Saint Louis area. Thanks
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...us/development/mod-wifi-tether-patch-t3192325

Looked into this, seems like it is just for tethering? I'm looking for regular data speed increase with no tethering. Thanks

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Hello guys is there anything I can do to increase my LTE speed it is ridiculously slow. Saint Louis area. Thanks View attachment 3488375
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I am having same problem. .in saint louis and other side of river slow 4glte had good speed before 6 month i call 30+ time and few months later they say you get slow speed because increasing sprint customers. .and that's it stuck with 2 to 3 mbps now..its sprint making bad.

Stl Dark Knight said:
Looked into this, seems like it is just for tethering? I'm looking for regular data speed increase with no tethering. Thanks
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Look futher down the post, it talks about changing proxy settings to 0.0.0.0

tcas55 said:
Look futher down the post, it talks about changing proxy settings to 0.0.0.0
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I changed it and still the same results less than 1 mbps download speed, can you tell me what they were before I changed it so I can put them back? Thanks.

Stl Dark Knight said:
I changed it and still the same results less than 1 mbps download speed, can you tell me what they were before I changed it so I can put them back? Thanks.
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Here are the defaults. Remember, when you make changes always have a backup plan. In this case a screen shot would do.
You most likely have a signal strength issue. No tweaks can fix that.

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Here are the defaults. Remember, when you make changes always have a backup plan. In this case a screen shot would do.
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I had a screen shot of the first number not the second one. Thanks! Unfortunately still no improvement at all on the speeds.

Original proxy settings:
RTSP proxy IP = rtsp.vog.sprintpcs.com
RTSP proxy port = 554
HTTP proxy IP = pd.vog.sprintpcs.com
HTTP proxy port = 8085

sprint always been slow you lucky you get that. my phone say 4g lte and from the speeds i get i was better off on 2g edge on tmobile. sprint is slow i use wifi at home. if i didnt have that i would of left along time ago. its unlimited because its impossible to use any real data

bonebeatz1234 said:
sprint always been slow you lucky you get that. my phone say 4g lte and from the speeds i get i was better off on 2g edge on tmobile. sprint is slow i use wifi at home. if i didnt have that i would of left along time ago. its unlimited because its impossible to use any real data
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i think its just your area. i download "stuff", use netflix and run XBL with no issues other than the occasional jump from lte to 3g. but i average between 50-100gb a month.

bonebeatz1234 said:
sprint always been slow you lucky you get that. my phone say 4g lte and from the speeds i get i was better off on 2g edge on tmobile. sprint is slow i use wifi at home. if i didnt have that i would of left along time ago. its unlimited because its impossible to use any real data
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I had the same issue with sprint. Was at or less than 1MBps up and down for a full week. I live in Las Vegas and they claim to "have the best signal in Las Vegas." I switched to T-Mobile and never had anything below 22MBps down and up, one time I got 56MBps down and 45MBps up. Sprint throttles data, and does a good job at it (while T-Mobile and Experian will give out your personal info ).
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