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I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ICS UPDATE.
Google really needs to get their crap together. ICS still out and one phone officially has it. Now this is coming and although it's not confirmed, this is still ridiculous. It would be nice to see tablets running the new upcoming OS but where do the phones play a role in this? I thought the OEMs where the reason for fragmentation but it is proving that Google is the kingpin behind all of this.
I love android but I like to be up to date and it's becoming harder and harder as Google gets more and more powerful. We shouldn't have to get a Nexus to be up to date. Fragmentation really needs to be fixed.
It will not be out for like a year.google has not even said it's going to be called jelly bean.
From a galaxy better than yours.
I posted this a few days ago.
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It will probable not even be for phones. It will be like honeycomb was.
Dude all carrier customizations should be done via the market and all android phones should be aosp as default
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defconoi said:
Dude all carrier customizations should be done via the market and all android phones should be aosp as default
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Google doesnt think so
http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/2012/01/11/minyanville-at-ces-google-puts/
any google rep check in here at xda? if there is one please read and take our compliant seriously. thank you
hmm i like jellybeans
Another reason to only get google phones. The GN will be updated right away, we will have to wait 6+ months.
If history holds true then we won't get it at all. Both the vibrant and the sgs4g only got one official update. If the galaxy s3 and 5.0 get released around the same time I would bet on Sammy not upgrading the s2. Its sad and disrespectful to their fan base but that's how it has been for the tmo galaxy line so far.
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Exodian said:
If history holds true then we won't get it at all. Both the vibrant and the sgs4g only got one official update. If the galaxy s3 and 5.0 get released around the same time I would bet on Sammy not upgrading the s2. Its sad and disrespectful to their fan base but that's how it has been for the tmo galaxy line so far.
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Google just needs to get its act together with android updates.
You can bet your ass the next apple event will highlight how all their devices are updated while only a slim % of android phones run the latesr version.
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I don't think this will be for phones but who knows. Also Google hasn't t officially said this will be for mobile phones or clarified the name. I think the people who suffer the most are t mobile users who would love to have a GN but were cut short by Google and t mobile. If Google is going to spoon feed their number 1 device it should be on all carries under the sun. This was one of my concerns of getting a gs2, i love the phone i just wish Google and these carries would get there act together.
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jordanishere said:
Google just needs to get its act together with android updates.
You can bet your ass the next apple event will highlight how all their devices are updated while only a slim % of android phones run the latesr version.
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Well its really easy if your devices and product all run similar hardware. apple iphone and ipod touch all run similar hardware. Drivers are mostly the same with slight changes.
Unless google says only restricts to certain hardware like tegra 2 and tegra 3 for tablets. and what ever processor for phones this won't happen. Essentially google did their job once they released source. It now up to Htc, Samsung , lg, and moto do their job and make new drivers from source.
Also another reason is carriers. The samsung galaxy 2 is the same phone through out europe on different carriers. Htc could of did the same thing with the sensation and use a apq8060 so it could essentially be a a world phone. You could essentially switch out the modem and still use the same processor. This would make it easier for updates. But U.s carriers want to brand them. Put certain restrictions for them. Also add all their bloatware back in.
Google alliance thing was something google promised but in the end they can't make it happen. You can't make carriers update your device. If they dont think its important enough so they can make money off of it then they wont update it.
T-mobile is one of the worst when it comes updating devices. I been on all the other major carriers and i seen even them release even incremental updates for phones that I thought no one uses on other carriers. Tmobile will have their flagship device with bugs for at least 6 months till they decide to update it.
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Well its really easy if your devices and product all run similar hardware. apple iphone and ipod touch all run similar hardware. Drivers are mostly the same with slight changes.
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This is mostly the case. The reason it takes as long as it does is adding the Touchwiz and Sense to fit phones
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It will probable not even be for phones. It will be like honeycomb was.
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Huh? The whole point of ICS was to make Android a universal operating system between all phones/tablets.
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This is mostly the case. The reason it takes as long as it does is adding the Touchwiz and Sense to fit phones
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I con tolerate touchwiz more than i can tolerate sense and blur. Touchwiz looks closest to stock android. So maybe it will be lighter and lighter over time. The only thing i dont like about touch wiz is the actual launcher. The rest dont really bother me. Sense 4.0 and ics make me not ever want an htc device again. Blur is just disgusting and all it does is bog the phone down.
Im still waiting on Froyo, while still on Eclair. Geez, these updates are taking FOREVER!
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Huh? The whole point of ICS was to make Android a universal operating system between all phones/tablets.
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This was my point exactly. Google keeps saying one thing and doing another. ICS was supposed to make things uniform and I do remember the talk about slowing down all the theming or skins done by oem's. Doesn't look like anything is slowing down. Manufacturers dropping phones non stop and all the adopters of the product are left with no update. It seems as if as long as Google is getting the advertising money....all the companies can run a muck.
I have to admit the third portion of this is the cell providers just being greedy by not updating and forcing you to want to upgrade.
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This was my point exactly. Google keeps saying one thing and doing another. ICS was supposed to make things uniform and I do remember the talk about slowing down all the theming or skins done by oem's. Doesn't look like anything is slowing down. Manufacturers dropping phones non stop and all the adopters of the product are left with no update. It seems as if as long as Google is getting the advertising money....all the companies can run a muck.
I have to admit the third portion of this is the cell providers just being greedy by not updating and forcing you to want to upgrade.
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Well Google has done a **** job recently with ICS. The Nexus S and Nexus S 4G are ahead of the Galaxy Nexus "the premier ICS phone" and I hate to say it but I'm just losing faith in Google. To add insult to injury, Google has so many builds of ICS that nobody knows who's getting what and when.
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So I was wondering... don't we basically have the same phone? I just dont understand why they can release it for the S but we are still left in the dust... http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-incredible-s-ics-update-119483/
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So I was wondering... don't we basically have the same phone? I just dont understand why they can release it for the S but we are still left in the dust... http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-incredible-s-ics-update-119483/
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Verizon has to go over every update
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DAMMIT! I read the first part of the title and got all excited...
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DAMMIT! I read the first part of the title and got all excited...
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I wouldn't have if you hadn't bumped it!
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Verizon has to go over every update
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Lol me too. ****!
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Lol me too. ****!
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why are you quoting me i was giving the OP a reason for why it hasnt come yet. Atleast some awesome person gave you guys a leak though...
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why are you quoting me i was giving the OP a reason for why it hasnt come yet. Atleast some awesome person gave you guys a leak though...
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Lol I was supposed to be quoting nitsua98.... quote fail on my part!
Verizon is officially full of ****. Nuff said.
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Verizon is officially full of ****. Nuff said.
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Its their responsibility, because when people have issues, the call VZW not HTC, and every call to VZW costs them $$
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Its their responsibility, because when people have issues, the call VZW not HTC, and every call to VZW costs them $$
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At this rate, I think most of their customers are probably rooted already. Better support here than vzw techs can ever provide!
Fact is that vzw wants to make sure their crap doesn't affect HTC's update before releasing it. As such, we all now how much crap they dump on us, so expect to wait a lot longer!
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At this rate, I think most of their customers are probably rooted already. Better support here than vzw techs can ever provide!
Fact is that vzw wants to make sure their crap doesn't affect HTC's update before releasing it. As such, we all now how much crap they dump on us, so expect to wait a lot longer!
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OK but I would say about 80% of people don't root. I know that is just an estimate but from experience it seems reasonable to me. So, say vzw sold 100,000 inc2s. That would be 80,000 people that might call them if the update changed something or something was broken in it. That's a lot of time for vzw service reps
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OK but I would say about 80% of people don't root. I know that is just an estimate but from experience it seems reasonable to me. So, say vzw sold 100,000 inc2s. That would be 80,000 people that might call them if the update changed something or something was broken in it. That's a lot of time for vzw service reps
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I am not saying you are wrong, but my original point is that ICS is on the Incredible S, (which I think is the same phone unless someone tells me differently) and it is fine. If it was such an issue, Verizon would never release an update on any phone ever... because something can always go wrong and often does. The one way they truly know there are issues is to release an update, listen to feedback and send out bug fixes. What we "think" we know is that Verizon has had this update, since at least August if not earlier and they are sitting on it. I don't believe one bit that they are worried that this update might break something, Maybe I am a conspiracy theorist, but I think they are holding off hoping more people update to newer phones. Look at the Galaxy Nexus. JellyBean 2 or 3 months ago and Verizon just updated it about a week ago. The Galaxy Nexus is going on a year old and if they can get people to upgrade, they can also get people into this ridiculous share everything plan. I just don't think it has anything to do with them making this update perfect, because that would not follow how they have handled updates up until now...
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I am not saying you are wrong, but my original point is that ICS is on the Incredible S, (which I think is the same phone unless someone tells me differently) and it is fine. If it was such an issue, Verizon would never release an update on any phone ever... because something can always go wrong and often does. The one way they truly know there are issues is to release an update, listen to feedback and send out bug fixes. What we "think" we know is that Verizon has had this update, since at least August if not earlier and they are sitting on it. I don't believe one bit that they are worried that this update might break something, Maybe I am a conspiracy theorist, but I think they are holding off hoping more people update to newer phones. Look at the Galaxy Nexus. JellyBean 2 or 3 months ago and Verizon just updated it about a week ago. The Galaxy Nexus is going on a year old and if they can get people to upgrade, they can also get people into this ridiculous share everything plan. I just don't think it has anything to do with them making this update perfect, because that would not follow how they have handled updates up until now...
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The incredible s is gsm (at&t, T-Mobile), incredible 2 is CDMA (aka Verizon) Verizon obviously didn't get their greasy paws on the incredible s to slow down the release
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Triscuit said:
The incredible s is gsm (at&t, T-Mobile), incredible 2 is CDMA (aka Verizon) Verizon obviously didn't get their greasy paws on the incredible s to slow down the release
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HTC has always done from my knowledge. Oh, if you do get the OTA update, then I hope you get good coverage. Last time I did an OTA update, it took two and a half hour to download like 180 MB at full bars.
P.S. I believe that Sprint is still CDMA to my knowledge (or I don't know crap.)
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OK but I would say about 80% of people don't root. I know that is just an estimate but from experience it seems reasonable to me. So, say vzw sold 100,000 inc2s. That would be 80,000 people that might call them if the update changed something or something was broken in it. That's a lot of time for vzw service reps
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agreed, not to mention if bugs arise from the ota or post ota (that werent caught in testing or werent thought to be a big deal) then they have to potentially release more incremental updates that cost more money
i dont know exactly how the contract stuff works, but im assuming verizon paid for ics updates from htc for the tbolt and inc2 (since there are debug builds) but might be able to cut their losses by not actually releasing it...if they feel that it doesnt benefit them by releasing it
the tbolt not getting updated makes sense actually since it was released 3/11, and that puts the 20 month on contract update window for those early adopters within the next month or two
i dont see verizon doing anything to lessen the chances those users upgrade....and a new OS just might do that
inc2 was released about 6 weeks to 2 months later, but same theory applies
not to say the update still *wont* happen...but every week that its not out id say significantly drops the chances of it
now that doesnt get htc off the hook for chinese inc2 kernel source...which by my count is approaching (if not passed) their own 120 day window (which techinically by my interpretation is not legal anyway) for releasing it
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I am not saying you are wrong, but my original point is that ICS is on the Incredible S, (which I think is the same phone unless someone tells me differently) and it is fine.
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actually htc has been releasing (for the first time i can remember) the ics updates for the msm7x30 phones on htc dev as RUU's rather than ota's as of late
without looking im pretty sure they did this for the desire s, rhyme, and the more recent inc s updates....they seemed to have stopped ota's through carriers for it
i guess their reasoning is something along the lines of "well the general public wont take the upgrade, so less support" and since its released through htc dev anyway i dont think they have to support it...its more like "here it is, have at it"
This will make the various ICS ROMS for DINC2 much better, since now they will be based on our phone instead of something like our phone.
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This will make the various ICS ROMS for DINC2 much better, since now they will be based on our phone instead of something like our phone.
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This doesn't mean jack for the Inc2.
LOL, so now today HTC has been responding on their Facebook and saying they are working with Verizon on the ICS update for Thunderbolt, Incredible 2... and the REZOUND! SMH. The Rezound was already updated to ICS a while back, early August if I remember correctly. I really think no one over there knows what the hell they are doing...
http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/rezound.html
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This will make the various ICS ROMS for DINC2 much better, since now they will be based on our phone instead of something like our phone.
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Just so you know, there is a ROM based on a vzw leak...
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Just so you know, there is a ROM based on a vzw leak...
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Unfortunately, its buggy as hell. If it works for you, then by all means, enjoy it!!!
Does this really belong here? prolly not
but i know a lot of inc2 users dont want to upgrade and loose unlimited data, and buying phones off contract can be crazy expensive to keep it
inc4g can typically be had for under $250 on ebay/cl, and now we have s-off coming (which being locked was a major point for many to avoid the phone)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1944157
basically thought id throw this out there, for those looking for a pretty good (i love it, others refuse to use anything smaller than 4.3 inch screen these days) 4g phone that can be had off contract used for just about upgrade pricing, can now not worry about having an unrootable/locked phone :good:
it will most likely be getting official jellybean at some point, which the rezound probably wont (nothing against rezound, but that could be a deal breaker for some)
Awesome, the not unlockable at all part was definitely what had me staying away from this, I knew it'd get done eventually though, thanks for the heads up.
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Thanks for this nits. Are you on the dinc4g now? It's something to consider at that price. Is battery comparable to what we have now on dinc2? I may have to Google to see how big an improvement it is. I don't recall any of the tech specs for it.
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Thanks for this nits. Are you on the dinc4g now? It's something to consider at that price. Is battery comparable to what we have now on dinc2? I may have to Google to see how big an improvement it is. I don't recall any of the tech specs for it.
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yeah ive had the inc4g since launch...i was one of the fortunate ones (maybe 80-100?) that got dev unlocked through htcdev when the phone was unoffiicially supported for its first 10 days post launch...after that htc killed support to it...
theory was either a) verizon told them to (verizon claims our stock release software and unlock would cause issues...according to some support folk) or b) verizon just didnt want it unlockable
in any event, it ll work out in the end, cuz we probably wouldnt have soff if we had dev unlock as andy might not have had to reach out to the i/o guys if we still had unlock...and soff is so much better
but our sense4.1/android 4.0.4 update this week contained the exploit the guys needed to get temproot and soff the device supposedly :good:
as for the device?
battery life is incredible for a 4g device...on the stock battery and kernel i get 4 hours screen on time regularly (more than my inc2), in lte coverage the whole time...radios are very good
comparing it to the inc2, i guess form factor differences would be iphone 4s vs iphone5...the inc4g is narrower, but qhd res....i happen to like the screen a lot (even though some blogs killed it)....its very responsive, and smooth (even more so now on sense4.1 vs 4.0)
Keep us posted on the s-off. Thanks nit.
Thanks for the info Justin.
Well I will certainly be getting this phone for sure.
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I'm certainly going to think hard on it. I have to go off contract to keep unlimited anyways. I may begin monitoring the forum to see how much dev support swings over there. Will cyanogenmod ever support non moto phones? Lol.
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I'm certainly going to think hard on it. I have to go off contract to keep unlimited anyways. I may begin monitoring the forum to see how much dev support swings over there. Will cyanogenmod ever support non moto phones? Lol.
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Since when did CM only support moto phones?? Only reason we aren't supported is because we don't have kernel source, we used to be for GB.
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I understand that. Just frustrated that Verizon is kicking us to the curb it seems. Lol. I hope source does release and we still get supported!!! I just am nervous to buy a non nexus given Verizon's dropping of the ball on devices at random.
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If anyone cares for another opinion, I can pretty much confirm Justin's take on the Dinc4. I had the Dinc2 for quite a while and absolutely loved it (now my dad loves it.) I was predisposed to the Dinc4 because the form factor of the Dinc2 was perfect. Once I noticed Justin had the phone and knew it would have great ROMs, that sealed the deal. My phone arrived THE DAY HTC removed it from their unlock tool :'(
So after 3 months with the Dinc4, I'm a little baffled by the amount of negative reviews on this phone. The screen is fantastic, the camera is outstanding, and the phone (stock) is smooth and responsive. The latest update made it even better. Battery life is great. If you like your Dinc2 as much as I did and aren't looking for a phablet size device, I think this is a great upgrade.
Cheers.
+1 I just got mine and I love it. Except for the lack of root, but like nits said that will be available in the near future. The form of the phone reminds me of the og inc and I loved that lil guy
if root ever becomes available for it, i might look around to trade my dinc2 + some cash maybe, for one. dinc2 is my first Android based phone and I really love it. I even liked it on stock, but root is just amazing lol
We're told root is coming soon
Once the s-off tool is released, i'm sure root will accompany root.
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Once the s-off tool is released, i'm sure root will accompany root.
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yeah, just fastboot a recovery and flash a superuser package and youre set (post s-off)
I think just maybe HTC threw the dinc4g a bone. They have supported the android underground in the past. They still would if very greedy wireless hadn't stepped in.
It makes sense to me, that they released an update knowing full well that we could exploit it.
Anyone else think the same?
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I'll second that
If our phones were 4g I could care less about upgrading to the dinc4g because the dinc2 is an amazing phone :X
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JehC said:
If our phones were 4g I could care less about upgrading to the dinc4g because the dinc2 is an amazing phone :X
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well thats the rub, its not
AS a user and developer for the andriod device and google has announce that it won't update the s3 on U.S variant because it has a duo core chip ...and to tell you the truth I think it's bullocks , now how come apple update there software for their phones and I'm talking about 3GS til iphone 5 this what lack in andriod , I understand companies want to sell there " new blah blah phone, but its all about marketing... i am really disappointed with the news but if you dont believe me take a look at the link http://legalpronews.findlaw.com/article/0ghn3QJeCYajg?q=Android
it would be samsungs choice not googles...
1. Samsung and each of the US carriers, NOT Google provide the updates to the GSIII.
2. Google only provides updates to the Nexus line.
3. That is the same type of speculative / rumor stuff that came out about the single-core devices when ICS and JB both came out, just like the pre-release rumor about GB when it came out... no phones under either 756 MB or 1GB of RAM and/or under 4 inch screen would be able to run it. my wife's and my daughter's MT3G-S's both ran it just fine with only 600 MHz and 512 MB of RAM.
simply put just the same old b.s. rumors flying around before Google themselves have even unveiled the new OS... it's just some blogger shooting off their mouth trying to get people to jump to the "new hotness" so they don't get left behind.
Samsung nor Google nor the carriers "NEED" do nothing..
While it's true that there are those phone users, such as ourselves, that are tech savvy and want the latest software refresh, look at the shear number of shipped phones! Far in excess of all the registered users on any tech forum added all together.
This means that the average S3 owner only cares that the phone does exactly what was advertised at the time of their purchase and remains stable in operation. S3 has already achieved this, so the "need" is not there. Tens of millions of S3 owners will continue on unaware or even care about that "update".
Now you could argue that we "want" the updates, especially 4.2.2 with premium suite and also Key Lime Pie (5.0). But that argument needs to include how this is financially "beneficial" to Samsung and the carriers that sell their phones.
I agree, I really, really, really want Key Lime Pie along with new S4 type features in the premium suite. Please, pretty please give it to me. I'll then show off this capability and how you care for your customers Samsung. Perhaps enough new purchases of even the older S3 will occur to cover the cost of the new development/testing? So please?
But to demand it as a NEED, meh!
Besides, anything that happens on another Galaxy variant is normally ported to other variants. Like Verizon base sporting multi window.
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Guess it's Samsung's way of forcing you to buy up...I wont upgrade for that, I'll just stick to custom ROMS till my upgrade is due, then getting that Note III! :laugh:
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Guess it's Samsung's way of forcing you to buy up...I wont upgrade for that, I'll just stick to custom ROMS till my upgrade is due, then getting that Note III! :laugh:
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Yep, that'll punish good ole Samsung :cyclops:
Well Supposely samsung will update to 4.2.2 with some of the features of the s4 in May or June. I seriously doubt that as I imagine samsung will think it will hurt sales of the s4, a newer phone with the same firmware of the s3. A. It might come late summer or more waiting, at this point they should just stop 4.1.2
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Well Supposely samsung will update to 4.2.2 with some of the features of the s4 in May or June. I seriously doubt that as I imagine samsung will think it will hurt sales of the s4, a newer phone with the same firmware of the s3. A. It might come late summer or more waiting, at this point they should just stop 4.1.2
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At the same time it may give a Samsung a bad reputation. Especially since they are really competing against Apple they don't have to do anything but it would be in their best interest to do so.
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Good thing I have a Nexus.
I'm joining the S3 club pretty soon. Lol
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Good thing I have a Nexus.
I'm joining the S3 club pretty soon. Lol
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Come on in and join the familia
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I thought that in order to brand their devices as Google devices (has stock play store access), manufactures have to keep their devices up to date for at least 18 months from the date of release?
If that's true then we should get updates until at least November 2013.
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I thought that in order to brand their devices as Google devices (has stock play store access), manufactures have to keep their devices up to date for at least 18 months from the date of release?
If that's true then we should get updates until at least November 2013.
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definitely not the case lol
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I was thinking of the android update alliance. Apparently it was non binding so there was literally nothing forcing the manufacturers to keep their word.
http://androinica.com/2012/06/andro...ter-empty-promises-promises-promises-opinion/
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I thought that in order to brand their devices as Google devices (has stock play store access), manufactures have to keep their devices up to date for at least 18 months from the date of release?
If that's true then we should get updates until at least November 2013.
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Lol
If this was true Android would be the #1 OS no debate
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It's not like these manufacturers aren't making loot on android. Google should put the screws to them and hold them to the update alliance agreement or pull their Google device status. Uphold the quality of the platform or lose play store (all gapps for that matter). Think the s3 would be so wildly popular with no gapps? Plain and simple, if they want to make money on android, they should be held to its release schedule.
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moto211 said:
It's not like these manufacturers aren't making loot on android. Google should put the screws to them and hold them to the update alliance agreement or pull their Google device status. Uphold the quality of the platform or lose play store (all gapps for that matter). Think the s3 would be so wildly popular with no gapps? Plain and simple, if they want to make money on android, they should be held to its release schedule.
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moto211 said:
It's not like these manufacturers aren't making loot on android. Google should put the screws to them and hold them to the update alliance agreement or pull their Google device status. Uphold the quality of the platform or lose play store (all gapps for that matter). Think the s3 would be so wildly popular with no gapps? Plain and simple, if they want to make money on android, they should be held to its release schedule.
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I don't think Google cares as much how slow these other manufacturers are delivering updates. If they did they would stop releasing little updates every few months and just prep a big one for phones to catch up, and frankly they do sell phones. Their selling point with the nexus devices is you buy a nexus and you'll get all the goodies earlier than everyone else. Bottom line though most consumers don't care about updates I know several people with phones like the blaze still on GB and think is the best thing ever. We are a small community compare to the average regular users.
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I'm not talking about little incremental updates. Google should hold manufactures to major version updates for at least 18 months after release. Google stated that it only intends to release one major version a year going forward. So that's one maybe two major updates depending on release date of the device. I don't think that's a lot to ask.
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Their selling point with the nexus devices is you buy a nexus and you'll get all the goodies EARLIER than everyone else.
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this is where the point is. I'm not saying that anyone should get the updates as rapidly as the nexus does... But i think that 6 months after an update release it's reasonable to believe it should be out for at least a manufacturer's flag ship phone... (and last gen flag ship if still under the 18mo mark)
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http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-set-for-android-4-3-update-50012349/
What do you guys think about this?
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http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-set-for-android-4-3-update-50012349/
What do you guys think about this?
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I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.
bodi524 said:
I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.
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Agreed. Goodbye Samsung. It's pathetic that its going to 2014 before a phone released in October 2012 gets a software update. You've lost me as well.
stoneule said:
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Agreed. Goodbye Samsung. It's pathetic that its going to 2014 before a phone released in October 2012 gets a software update. You've lost me as well.
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Add me to the list.
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bodi524 said:
I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.
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More like January or Feb, I'd say or maybe never...at least for the Sprint variant. It isn't in Sprint's interest to push updates unless the other carriers do. Of course Samsung wants to get these updates moving because they want the public to feel they'll be supported if they purchase a Samsung branded device but brand loyalty isn't in Sprints interests unless the brand is Sprint and that of course is usually maintained at the end of a very thin thread as it is.
As for the possibility of receiving the 4.3 update. I'm always excited about OTA updates because updates play a fairly big role in future versions of Android. The more updates there are the more well understood it is what the public wants/needs from future versions because of the broader spectrum of users providing feedback.
For my own personal device...I don't care. I run what I want on my device anyway regardless of whatever Samsung/Sprint/Google push. I don't give a rats ass about having a "pure" Android experience or being the first to get the latest version (no offense to the Nexus fans) either. I want my device dirty and nasty with a big moustache. I don't want be like one of those creeps that hangs around the strip clubs but never pays for a lap dance...I'm in the champaign room and let me tell you there is more going on in there than the song says. Why do you think I'm hanging around here? Trick it, brick it, fix it, trick it and brick it again...that's what it all about.
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bodi524 said:
I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.
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Same here.
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bodi524 said:
I am done with Samsung...they say October. .but really mean December.
And then the US carriers have to test and bloat it...so we are looking March next year!!!!
I am buying the next Nexus and noting but Nexus from now on.
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a million times, this.. love the removable battery and storage but not sure if it's worth the [email protected]!%
Yea don't really care because Google separated their core services from the operating system so most of the really great feature are now pushed through Google rather than being a part of a new os version.
Android updates aren't as feature rich anymore.
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To the ones complaining who are you going to then? Unless its a Google phone it will be the same across all manufacturers. At least we have a date. Samsung actually announces all devices that will be upgraded at the same time unlike others like HTC who just tells u that their it phone of the moment will be upgraded while the rest get lost in forgotten land. Samsung actually has been the best non Google manufacturer with updates to their Galaxy line..
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When the Nexus 5 shows up, I'm outta here.
You could use Aosp... Just saying
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I'm wondering if this update will add the note 3 features.
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robertm2011 said:
When the Nexus 5 shows up, I'm outta here.
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I'm with you all the way.
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To the ones complaining who are you going to then? Unless its a Google phone it will be the same across all manufacturers. At least we have a date. Samsung actually announces all devices that will be upgraded at the same time unlike others like HTC who just tells u that their it phone of the moment will be upgraded while the rest get lost in forgotten land. Samsung actually has been the best non Google manufacturer with updates to their Galaxy line..
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This, with htc, unless you have the latest and greatest device forget about an update.
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I love how in this thread it's bunch of people complaining about how updates don't come fast enough and then when you look at the next thread in this section it's all about getting rid of the updater to stop those "pesky" notifications trying to get you to update... lol
They say December, but that's when they're submitting it to sprint. We'll actually get it Feb or Mar in 2014. Mark my words lol.
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Yes sirrrr no more 2nd hand phones for me when nexus comes through bye bye samsung.
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Im going with the note 3 so I dont give a damn when it comes out ima be rocking 4.3 out the box! With kitkat maybe falling this year for it
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I love how in this thread it's bunch of people complaining about how updates don't come fast enough and then when you look at the next thread in this section it's all about getting rid of the updater to stop those "pesky" notifications trying to get you to update... lol
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Pretty sure that you're missing the point.
The updates that we all are anxious for are system updates that ROM devs can work with, make better ROMs for us all. Definitely worth "complaining" about.
That other thread is about a fault where the phone thinks it needs a software update, but not really, or the update in question is actually not desirable for whatever reason.
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chuko303 said:
Im going with the note 3 so I dont give a damn when it comes out ima be rocking 4.3 out the box! With kitkat maybe falling this year for it
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I've been thinking long n hard about that, as an option. I do love my Note2, with the exception of the plastic, it's a badass device. But I don't actually use the pen as much as I thought I would. So taking a long look at the HTC Mega (?), and hoping that it makes it to the US... I allow myself a new phone every year, it being a hobby I indulge myself in, and I always buy outright, no ETF charges...
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HTC maxx, not mega