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OK, this is downright embarrassing, I have linux experience, I have experience unlocking and flashing almost every HTC winmo device, and right now I seriously need a clue on how to flash my evo with damagecontrol.. i believe i already rooted it properly, i come to this conclusion by typing "id" at the terminal on the device and the uid is root. seriously i feel dumb right now.

well if you are rooted all you need to do is put the rom zip on your memory card and then go into recovery..
from there wipe then flash from zip.

from what ive seen soo far, might i have to rename the damagecontrol rom zip to pc36IMG.zip? and to get to the recovery screen just hold vol down and power?

x9x0 said:
from what ive seen soo far, might i have to rename the damagecontrol rom zip to pc36IMG.zip? and to get to the recovery screen just hold vol down and power?
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You don't need to rename it. Yes, that is how you get into recovery. If you're using ClockworkMod recovery, then you should select "Install zip from SD card" and then browse to the ROM, then install it. You might need to wipe your data first for it to work properly. Do a nandroid backup first in case something goes wrong.

ROM Manager... works wonders for noobs like us

ok, Maybe i need to see the whole picture in a verifyable way. Just so i can see this thing from the inside out i have some more questions.
1. How do i verify that I have full root access? I am root when i "id" at console.
2. Im assuming NAND is protected storage onboard the phone.. How do i verify I have it unlocked?
3. How do i know the recovery image has been flashed?
Where these questions come from is the fact that I used jiqqaman's OTA simple root witch i think was a big mistake if i was to understand what is actually happening and being done.. so basically after running OTA simple root i have no idea whats been done, or how it was done...

if you used simply root you should be ok.. i rooted my Evo 1st thing the "old way".. not sure how to check if you are fully rooted. maybe someone else can help there.
1st thing you need to do is find the pc36IMG.zip and delete it of remane it.... i did mine root-pc36IMG.zip
then power off the phone..... when its off hold the power button and volume down ( same time) this should give you a white screen while it reads for the pc36 zip... since you remaned it nothing will happen.... after this you should see recovery.. should be the 2nd one...
volume down to highlight it and hit power buttom
the phone should go into recover mode.... from there you should see wipe etc... wipe data and cache then flash rom from zip
dont remane the rom.... volume keys to navigate..
hope this helps

ok, so far so good, but when i go to flash the new rom, I choose install update from SDcard, it then looks for it and cant find it. The rom is on the root of the SD and it's named "DamageControlv3.1.2-deodexed.zip" also trying the ROM manager pops an error of "an error occured while attempting to run privileged commands."

Alright what you need to do is download ROM manager from the market. Once you do that do the "flash clockworkmod recovery" and then once its done click on "reboot into recovery" then you should be able to install the ROM. Hope this helped

hved999 said:
Alright what you need to do is download ROM manager from the market. Once you do that do the "flash clockworkmod recovery" and then once its done click on "reboot into recovery" then you should be able to install the ROM. Hope this helped
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I dont think you have it rooted.... does SuperUser prompt you to allow access? if so click on "allow"

hved999 said:
I dont think you have it rooted.... does SuperUser prompt you to allow access? if so click on "allow"
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correct me if im wrong but he shouldnt have superuser since he is still on the stock rom.

x9x0 said:
ok, so far so good, but when i go to flash the new rom, I choose install update from SDcard, it then looks for it and cant find it. The rom is on the root of the SD and it's named "DamageControlv3.1.2-deodexed.zip" also trying the ROM manager pops an error of "an error occured while attempting to run privileged commands."
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it should find the rom.. where you can volume down to highlight it.
are you unpluged from the computer while you do this?
once rooted.. simply put the rom in your card and unplug the phone to flash.

Ok, The missing link here being the clockwork recovery mod.. Think im back on track here

Mayonesa said:
correct me if im wrong but he shouldnt have superuser since he is still on the stock rom.
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well once i had rooted my phone (this was over a month ago) via unrevoked it installed superuser for me... so idk. and it was on the stock ROM

Okay I have no clue what you have and don't have. But a few thoughts, make sure you are choosing install zip from sdcard/choose zip from sdcard and not apply sdcard:update.zip. If you are unsure you have a recovery image flashed, in extras on SimpleRoot there is an option to flash recovery. Other than that not too sure what is wrong.

unrevoke will only give you root and not nand unlocked...,you need to run toast method 2 nand unlock.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

When you boot into recovery (while the phone is off hold volume down and power up) check the top of the screen to see what version hboot you have. If you ran simple root and showing version 0.79.0000 then something went wrong. It should say 0.76.2000

hved999 said:
I dont think you have it rooted.... does SuperUser prompt you to allow access? if so click on "allow"
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I am having the exact same issue. I get the error message from rom manager as well. And I cannot tether. I flashed some other roms that have had too many bugs to count so I am back at "just rooted" nandroid restore and am getting the same errors. What is the next step?

campchi said:
unrevoke will only give you root and not nand unlocked...,you need to run toast method 2 nand unlock.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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He mentioned that he ran simple root program not unrevoked and simple root will unlock nand. See my post above to verify if your actually rooted. If hboot version is .79 then you have not unlocked nand.

success, it seems once youve already used simpleroot, it's a PITA to get clockwork on it unless you use the option in extras of simpleroot. Success is mine, although i think i have a few more grey hairs for it. Thanks to all those who helped. And to put out words of advice for any other newbs... when they say wipe, they mean cache, userdata AND DELVIC! If you dont you might crap yourself when the phone goes into boot loop! I know i almost lost it. Thanks again everyone!

[Q] Upgrading to cyanogenmod 7.1 issues

Phone: HTC Desire GSM
I have Cyanogen 7.0.3 and want to upgrade to 7.1, mainly to keep up to date but also because since I got a market update a couple of months ago I keep getting force closes whenever I try to update or download a new app. This also force closes when it tries to update the superuser app, as it says binary outdated and won't let me use it, then tries to download the new one and FC's.
When I try to go into recovery, I get the red triangle. How can I get a custom recovery like clockworkmod on there? I also noticed from the bootloader menu that I still have S_ON, how can I fix this? The suggestion from the cyanogen wiki is to use Revolutionary, but when filling out the form for the beta key, my HBOOT version is not on there. Mine is 0.75, the only two options are 0.93 and 1.02.
What are my options for getting cyanogen 7.1 on my phone, or at least fixing this awful force close thing that leaves my market unusable. I've tried a few fixes for it but none have worked.

Pryomancer said:
Phone: HTC Desire GSM
I have Cyanogen 7.0.3 and want to upgrade to 7.1, mainly to keep up to date but also because since I got a market update a couple of months ago I keep getting force closes whenever I try to update or download a new app. This also force closes when it tries to update the superuser app, as it says binary outdated and won't let me use it, then tries to download the new one and FC's.
When I try to go into recovery, I get the red triangle. How can I get a custom recovery like clockworkmod on there? I also noticed from the bootloader menu that I still have S_ON, how can I fix this? The suggestion from the cyanogen wiki is to use Revolutionary, but when filling out the form for the beta key, my HBOOT version is not on there. Mine is 0.75, the only two options are 0.93 and 1.02.
What are my options for getting cyanogen 7.1 on my phone, or at least fixing this awful force close thing that leaves my market unusable. I've tried a few fixes for it but none have worked.
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jheeze theres a troubleshooting guide for you stickied.. so it's the first thing you see when you go into Q&A and yet you still post a new thread.. come on man that's what its there for! Just check it out and you can get a solution there

Uninstall updates on superuser
Try setting language to US English for market.
Assume you used Rom manager to flash before?
Also sounds like you rooted pre unrevoked?
At the red triangle, press vol.up plus power. Does it say HTC recovery 2.0e? If so this is the.leaked engineering recovery we started with.
If you used Rom manager, you probably have update.zip on your sd card to boot into cwm fake flash.
If not, here it is: http://db.tt/s6MoApxB
Put it on the root of sd and boot into the engineering recovery. Apply update from there then take a nandroid backup.
If its true alpharev doesn't work with 0.75 (have you tried? I don't know) best bet is probably to RUU. But in order to use alpharev, not sure if cm7 is compatible so flash teppic74 rooted stock Froyo. You can also do this via fake flash cwm. Run alpharev to test.
Like I said, if not, probably easier to RUU then root with unrevoked or s-off with revolutionary
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

bortak said:
jheeze theres a troubleshooting guide for you stickied.. so it's the first thing you see when you go into Q&A and yet you still post a new thread.. come on man that's what its there for! Just check it out and you can get a solution there
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It's the first thing I went to, but my situation seems to meld two or three of the problems addressed in that guide.
I'm rooted, with S_ON, going to recovery brings up the red triangle, my HBOOT is 0.75. I'm wondering if anyone can suggest some specific actions for me to take. It's a lot of things to consider and is somewhat overwhelming. I don't know where to begin.

rootSU said:
Uninstall updates on superuser
I did this, it seemed to work, I can get superuser access on a terminal with su now. Before it would crash. But I tried following some instructions to create a market-download-cache folder but I didn't have permission to do it.
Try setting language to US English for market.
I tried that before, it didn't work.
Assume you used Rom manager to flash before?
Yes, I put cyanogen 7.1 on my sd card and went to flash through rom manager, but it went to the red triangle screen. If you mean did I use rom manager to get my current version of cyanogenmod on my phone, then yes I did do that. However that was on my computer before I upgraded to Win7. I had this .bat file that I ran and it pushed a load of files to my phone over usb which fixed the red triangle and took it to a recovery menu. I can't find that again. Would it work if I did have it?
Also sounds like you rooted pre unrevoked?
I suppose so. I got my Desire a few days after it came out, rooted it probably 2-3 months later.
At the red triangle, press vol.up plus power. Does it say HTC recovery 2.0e? If so this is the.leaked engineering recovery we started with.
Yes, it says 'Android system recovery <2e>, in blue text. I also have a small menu consisting of Reboot system now, Apply sdcard:update.zip(I assume that's from rom manager?), wipe data/factory reset, and wipe cache partition. It also says below all that in yellow text, 'E:Can't open /cache/recovery/command
If you used Rom manager, you probably have update.zip on your sd card to boot into cwm fake flash.
If not, here it is: http://db.tt/s6MoApxB
I heard Rom Manager is not good anymore as of some recent updates to it. It can mess up installations. Is this true?
Put it on the root of sd and boot into the engineering recovery. Apply update from there then take a nandroid backup.
If its true alpharev doesn't work with 0.75 (have you tried? I don't know) best bet is probably to RUU. But in order to use alpharev, not sure if cm7 is compatible so flash teppic74 rooted stock Froyo. You can also do this via fake flash cwm. Run alpharev to test.
Like I said, if not, probably easier to RUU then root with unrevoked or s-off with revolutionary
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Thank you for that. Is my situation bad, is it salvagable? So I should apply the update.zip from that recovery screen? What happens after that?
In fact, maybe I should revise what I actually want to do. I just want cyanogen 7.1, so do I even need to gain S_OFF? What do I need to do to be able to get into recovery and flash it? Is it that simple or do I need to do other things?

You doo if you want to use CM7 HBOOT. Some root apps also requires S-OFF.

Pryomancer said:
Thank you for that. Is my situation bad, is it salvagable? So I should apply the update.zip from that recovery screen? What happens after that?
In fact, maybe I should revise what I actually want to do. I just want cyanogen 7.1, so do I even need to gain S_OFF? What do I need to do to be able to get into recovery and flash it? Is it that simple or do I need to do other things?
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you need s-off to replace the engineering recovery with cwm true flashed recovery as the engineering one is hugely limited. Please confirm you have this
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

As beautiful n functional cynogen mod is,I couldn't get it to work properly on my phone,it had something to do with force close Android.phone looping continuously as soonm as my phone air get network it air lose it...tried the 2g,3g network change n still didn't work

leoaamro said:
As beautiful n functional cynogen mod is,I couldn't get it to work properly on my phone,it had something to do with force close Android.phone looping continuously as soonm as my phone air get network it air lose it...tried the 2g,3g network change n still didn't work
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did you do a full wipe before you installed CM? if you didn't go to mounts and storage and format everything apart from the sdcard and then flash it again.
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Pryomancer said:
Phone: HTC Desire GSM
I have Cyanogen 7.0.3 and want to upgrade to 7.1, mainly to keep up to date but also because since I got a market update a couple of months ago I keep getting force closes whenever I try to update or download a new app. This also force closes when it tries to update the superuser app, as it says binary outdated and won't let me use it, then tries to download the new one and FC's.
When I try to go into recovery, I get the red triangle. How can I get a custom recovery like clockworkmod on there? I also noticed from the bootloader menu that I still have S_ON, how can I fix this? The suggestion from the cyanogen wiki is to use Revolutionary, but when filling out the form for the beta key, my HBOOT version is not on there. Mine is 0.75, the only two options are 0.93 and 1.02.
What are my options for getting cyanogen 7.1 on my phone, or at least fixing this awful force close thing that leaves my market unusable. I've tried a few fixes for it but none have worked.
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What I would do:
Use alpharev 1.8 to S-OFF
Download recovery
Do a full wipe (mounts & storage, format boot, syste, data, cache, sd-ext)
Flash ROM
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also @RootSU - I swear you can't flash anything from the stock recovery? I tried before and it didn't let me.. otherwise what would be the point of rooting and flashing custom recovery if it was that easy?
also im pretty sure Alpharev works on that version, it's revolutionary that doesn't.

No not stock. Before unrevoked we all had to push an engineering HTC recovery (used by HTC engineers) not stock. It's the one.that says 2.0(e) at the top. You can apply update.zip only
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

rootSU said:
No not stock. Before unrevoked we all had to push an engineering HTC recovery (used by HTC engineers) not stock. It's the one.that says 2.0(e) at the top. You can apply update.zip only
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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oh, I thought that was the stock one, and yeah I tried applying update.zip through that recovery once but it didn't work for me. I've only tried to use it once so I guess you know about it more than me

bortak said:
oh, I thought that was the stock one, and yeah I tried applying update.zip through that recovery once but it didn't work for me. I've only tried to use it once so I guess you know about it more than me
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The update.zip I used to apply regularly was the fakeflash cwm. I often forgot back in those days that the reboot into recovery from the power button took me to the Triangle unlike RM which took me to CWM.
The huge downfall of this setup is that sometimes if your FS is already a little corrupt, CWM decides to "wipe" the sd card, taking with it the update.zip for cwm.
Thats why I RUU's and rooted with unrevoked when it came out.

rootSU said:
The update.zip I used to apply regularly was the fakeflash cwm. I often forgot back in those days that the reboot into recovery from the power button took me to the Triangle unlike RM which took me to CWM.
The huge downfall of this setup is that sometimes if your FS is already a little corrupt, CWM decides to "wipe" the sd card, taking with it the update.zip for cwm.
Thats why I RUU's and rooted with unrevoked when it came out.
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Ahh right, I never knew that.. I only rooted my phone about 6 months after I got it so I used unrevoked from the start

rootSU said:
you need s-off to replace the engineering recovery with cwm true flashed recovery as the engineering one is hugely limited. Please confirm you have this
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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It says <2e> at the top of the recovery when I do power+vol.up at the red triangle screen. From what you've said this seems to indicate I do have the engineering recovery.

Pryomancer said:
It says <2e> at the top of the recovery when I do power+vol.up at the red triangle screen. From what you've said this seems to indicate I do have the engineering recovery.
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search your clockworkmod folder for a "update.zip"
place it in the root of your sdcard
when you boot the engineering reocvery, press VOLUME UP and POWER together.. it may take several attempts before you get anything.. sometimes you don't press it at exactly the same time or whatever
choose "apply update.zip"
When the new recovery is booted
flash a rom

bortak said:
search your clockworkmod folder for a "update.zip"
place it in the root of your sdcard
when you boot the engineering reocvery, press VOLUME UP and POWER together.. it may take several attempts before you get anything.. sometimes you don't press it at exactly the same time or whatever
choose "apply update.zip"
When the new recovery is booted
flash a rom
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Ive been in this situation and it can be a nightmare if the SD fails so personally rather than flashing a rom using cwm fake flash, I would simply nandroid backup.
Then RUU and start from scratch. As unique as the 2e is, its better to have a decent recovery flashed.
Update.zip should be on the root of sd anyway. If not, here it is:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20471345/SUroot/Tools/Android/Recovery/CWM2.5.0.7 fakeflash/update.zip

thanks for the reply bortak, i will try when I get bored of the current rom - Aurora....
I've read it in quite a few places of users experiences the force close phone.android error inspite of the wipes (not format's)
check here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968501

leoaamro said:
thanks for the reply bortak, i will try when I get bored of the current rom - Aurora....absence of smart dialling was putting me off..
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you can always download a different dialer app from market

[Q] Toward Android 4

Hi there,
I have been battling (and learning) for now over 4 days with a mate that has succeeded installing Android 4.0 on his HD. We are having difficulties on a few points. I have some part of answers I found here and there, however there are still a few dark areas in my research at this stage. I have looked up the sticky one and have not found any answer that suits my issues.
I am at the point where I'm trying to S-OFF the phone, I wish to make a system recovery first. I have tried to reboot to recovery with the help 4ext and Rom Manager and getting a red triangle everytime.
My set is an Autralian HTC Desire from Telstra.
Thanks in advance if you wish to help us.
z:/

zipstor said:
I am at the point where I'm trying to S-OFF the phone, I wish to make a system recovery first. I have tried to reboot to recovery with the help 4ext and Rom Manager and getting a red triangle everytime.
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You can´t install 4Ext recovery if you aren´t s-off...

Go to revolutionary.io
This will S-OFF and if I recall right also install a recovery.

Okay I've used the revolutionary tool, I am s-offed, thanks for that, now how can I make sure recovery went okay

Well... try it?
Press volume down + power to get into bootloader, then launch recovery.
You navigate the menu with volume up and down.

FYI this is the desire not desire HD forum.

Thanks to the s-off I was able to install original HTC rom of froyo, this way I got rid of this evil Tesltra rom thing, that was possibly being the spanner in the works.
Thing is, revolutionnary was supposed to create a recovery file, and I'm still getting red triangle when launching recovery from bootloader.

zipstor said:
Thanks to the s-off I was able to install original HTC rom of froyo, this way I got rid of this evil Tesltra "sense" thing, that was possibly being the spanner in the works.
Thing is, revolutionnary was supposed to create a recovery file, and I'm still getting red triangle when launching recovery from bootloader.
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If you can now boot into android I would recommend the 4ext recovery (see my sig). Download the app from the market and use this to install the latest Touch recovery.

yep 4ext is good can also solve usb bricks although i solved mine with a simple adb command

sure... but why sould I use 4ext since revolutionary was doing the job in the first place?
anyway I ordered 4ext 4hrs ago and i'm still w8ting for notification and still got nothing
Message from Maximilian Riedel:
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Item
Price
4EXT Recovery Control
€1.98
Tax:
€0.00
Total:
€1.98
Even if I try to get the free version it says that the content is not supported on the phone...and its a .apk..

why not just flash clock work mod touch recovery esentially the same thing all your paying for really is the touch recovery and a few extras
http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.2-bravo.img

I can give it a go... sure..
Any instruction sheet anywhere?

first of all download fastboot commander and the img file i linked boot into bootloader by hold power +vol down for 5 second once in boot loader choose fastboot by using volume to scroll and power to select then your in fastboot conect usb run fastboot commander choose recovery image and press flash on pc you can also flash hboot radio and other stuff but a failed radio can lead to perm brick

WAIT!
You mention Desire HD in first post. Please confirm yours is NOT HD.

not hd dude

seanpr92 said:
first of all download fastboot commander and the img file i linked boot into bootloader by hold power +vol down for 5 second once in boot loader choose fastboot by using volume to scroll and power to select then your in fastboot conect usb run fastboot commander choose recovery image and press flash on pc you can also flash hboot radio and other stuff but a failed radio can lead to perm brick
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Your syntax makes it difficult to understand. I will try this but in the future it would be good if you could improve it.
Shall I extract the img files with an ISO reader or shall I open them with my phone system?

hi,
use 7zip to extract the img file but don t touch the file img... this is the one to flash into your device by the command
Code:
fastboot flash recovery c:\wherethe.imgfile.isonyourcomp
i would advice to do first a
Code:
fastboot erase recovery
in a cleaner way but not mandatory.
have a look in this following link everything to know to install and use adb/fastboot
look to my signature there is a link to the 4ext dev's thread. he s really aware and give a best support for his work. what i ve seen, i advice to have a look and post your experience. once u got the app 4ext running on your device it becomes really easy to flash recovery (and his is really rockin')
hope this help

zipstor said:
sure... but why sould I use 4ext since revolutionary was doing the job in the first place?
anyway I ordered 4ext 4hrs ago and i'm still w8ting for notification and still got nothing
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Hi,
My understanding was that you could not get into recovery.
My suggestion of 4ext was due to the fact that is is (IMHO):
- the easiest to install as it can be done directly from within an app
- the best currently available
I was not suggesting that you needed the paid version (which has more bells and whistles). The free version should so the job just as well.

Okay so thats an attempt to use your tips, the phone is connected via usb in charge only mode and here is what I get on CMD
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>fastboot erase recovery
< waiting for device >
Are you suggesting me to post on the EXT4 post as well?

ascot17 said:
Hi,
My understanding was that you could not get into recovery.
My suggestion of 4ext was due to the fact that is is (IMHO):
- the easiest to install as it can be done directly from within an app
- the best currently available
I was not suggesting that you needed the paid version (which has more bells and whistles). The free version should so the job just as well.
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That's okay mate, thanks for your concern.
What do you suggest if 4EXT is not getting me anywhere and I get the red triangle no matter what..?

S-on Custom Kernels Not Working!

Why doesn't any of the custom kernels work with S-on WFS a510e GSM hboot 1.09.099? It is already htcdev unlocked and CWM installed, and custom rom installed and rooted. All stock kernels are working, but the others doesn't boot, stuck at white htc screen.
I flashed CWM and it stays, it doesnt disappear on my phone. And I can always flash anything, i said i flashed custom rom, its flashed and i use it, but modified kernel inside of it doesnt boot and work, and if i flash stock kernel over it, it boots and works flawlessly. I saw so many complaints like this but i've never seen any solution to it, i searched too much but i could find nothing about it. If someone really understood the problem, any help is needed immediately.

You need to unlock the phone, try reading some posts about unlocking and rooting, then you can progress with installing custom roms.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2

Aef 101 said:
You need to unlock the phone, try reading some posts about unlocking and rooting, then you can progress with installing custom roms.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
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It is already htcdev unlocked and CWM installed, and custom rom installed and rooted my friend! How can I flash without unlocking, try thinking before writing.

Ok my mistake, but have you seriously looked around this forum? it has taken me 2 minutes to find the answer to your question just by searching
Try reading before writing you need to practice what you preach my friend !
Try reading this, it was posted in another thread in this section of the WFS part of the forum, I have pasted the relevant post further down, here is the link so that you can read the rest for yourself and find the answers to your questions;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1651536
" I have a S-ON, Unlocked Bootloader just like you. There are no way to root after u unlocked bootloader (because u need to update to lastest Hboot in order to UBL). I'd tried all tools i can find on xda and NONE of them can be use to root. There also don't have any clear guide for S-ON with UBL show how to install custom rom and get root.
But after few days digging up the forum, i'd managed to install custom rom + root. I share with you:
After your phone bootloader unlocked via HTCdev, your phone sure will have either HBOOT-1.08.0099 or HBOOT-1.09.0099. You'll need a ClockworkMod recovery image on your computer to install rom + root. And you'll need a working Android SDK with Fastboot to do get ClockworkMod working on ur S-ON phone.
OK let's say now you have fastboot folder alr, and know how to use it.
1. Download lastest clockwork mod .img here: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
2. put the file .img just downloaded to the fastboot folder.
3. Turn off phone, then hold volume down + power ---> wait the menu searching for the zip file (of course we ignore this) then press Power again to go to fastboot menu.
4. connect phone to laptop via usb cable.
5. Open fastboot folder, right click choose open command windows here.
5a. If you are on HBOOT-1.08.0099:
Copy this and right click to the command windows, paste then enter, ur phone will automatic restart to CWM menu:
fastboot -c "mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](devlog),[email protected](hboot)" boot recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.8-marvel.img
5b. If you are on HBOOT-1.09.0099:
Copy this and right click to the command windows, paste then enter, ur phone will automatic restart to CWM menu:
fastboot -c "mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](devlog),[email protected](hboot)" boot recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.8-marvel.img
Ok men, now u just download any rom u like, put it to ur memory card and flash rom like normal.
Remember that, everytime u flash new rom, u need to repeat the whole process from step 3 to step 5.
BIG THANKS to this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread"
All credit goes to the original poster of this solution - Ghequa.
None to me, what you do and how you do it is up to you, I am only trying to help you, and take no responsibility for any damage, loss of data etc for any devices this may be used on.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2

Clear Dalvik-Cache and make sure the kernel you are installing is made for that ROM.
Sent from my phone to your face.

MrTaco505 said:
Clear Dalvik-Cache and make sure the kernel you are installing is made for that ROM.
Sent from my phone to your face.
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Aef 101 said:
Ok my mistake, but have you seriously looked around this forum? it has taken me 2 minutes to find the answer to your question just by searching
Try reading before writing you need to practice what you preach my friend !
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Taco, I always clean all the caches before flashing any rom.
And aef, thanks for your efforts my friend but this is not the answer for my problem I think, cause i flashed CWM and it stays, it doesnt disappear on my phone. And I can always flash anything, i said i flashed custom rom, its flashed and i use it, but modified kernel inside of it doesnt boot and work, and if i flash stock kernel over it, it boots and works flawlessly. I saw so many complaints like this but i've never seen any solution to it, i searched too much but i could find nothing about it. If someone really understood the problem, any help is needed immediately.

could it be to do with overclocking?
i know that some phones are less able to handle overclocking than others, so maybe anything over the standard 600Mhz which stock kernels use is causing the phone to freeze up?
unusual to not even get past white htc with this though :s
you could try custom kernel and maybe change some of the startup parameters so that it boots with standard 600Mhz on demmand cpu settings within custom kernel, then you can boot up, try different settings with nofrills cpu, and see how stable it is then?
personally i keep at 600Mhz now.....i can put upto 768, but even then it will occasionally go nuts and feeeze up....600 is the most stable for my particular phone

Have you tried 600mhz default from here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21423190
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I have a Kernel problem too and don't wanted to open a new Topic for it so i'll write it here.
If i flash a new Kernel which I can overclock and do it the Phone freezes and Reboot then, what could be the Problem?

asdot said:
Have you tried 600mhz default from here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21423190
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This must fix it, i'll try it asap, and inform what happens, thanks my friend

[Q] Can't unlock bootloader

I've tried to flash a custom ROM on my DHD. Read a lot about it and tried to make it step by step but I'm already stuck at the first step because I can't unlock the bootloader. Tried through HTCDev, and with the Desire HD toolkit as well but no success. Basically I can't get the token ID in the command prompt. It either says can't find the device or telling me to wait but nothing happens. And I also couldn't find a working RUU
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-0.85.0007
RADIO-26.03.02.15_M3
eMMC-boot
software no.: 2.36.405.8
Where can be the problem?
Thanks any help in advance.

You are already s-off, which means your your bootloader is already unlocked...
You may also already even have a custom recovery installed so you can flash a custom rom. boot into bootloader, wait and then select recovery.
If you don't have a recovery flash one using fastboot
And in the future, search then post over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-hd

I don't think it is because the ROM Manager asking me to root it for cwm

tharrha said:
I don't think it is because the ROM Manager asking me to root it for cwm
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Ur phone is s-off so u can go ahead and flash recovery through fastboot commands, then u can flash a custom rom if u like or just root the stock rom thats already on ur phone. So what is ur main goal here? What do u want to do?

flashing a custom ROM like the KINGCOBRA DHD Sense 4.1. what made me confused that the process should be unlock bootloader - rooting - cwm on - rom on. I know that S-OFF means it's rooted but I thought I still have to put on cwm or something because I can't figure out if there is any recovery on or if it would work if something goes wrong.... or am I just over-combining things
so you say I should just factory reset, wipe everything and then flash the ROM?!?!

tharrha said:
flashing a custom ROM like the KINGCOBRA DHD Sense 4.1. what made me confused that the process should be unlock bootloader - rooting - cwm on - rom on. I know that S-OFF means it's rooted but I thought I still have to put on cwm or something because I can't figure out if there is any recovery on or if it would work if something goes wrong.... or am I just over-combining things
so you say I should just factory reset, wipe everything and then flash the ROM?!?!
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Download this:
http://goo.im/devs/OpenRecovery/ace/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-ace.img
And put it on your C drive
Set up fastboot with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
Connect your phone is fastboot mode to your pc.
Open a CMD window and write the following command
fastboot flash recovery C://openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-ace.img

tharrha said:
flashing a custom ROM like the KINGCOBRA DHD Sense 4.1. what made me confused that the process should be unlock bootloader - rooting - cwm on - rom on. I know that S-OFF means it's rooted but I thought I still have to put on cwm or something because I can't figure out if there is any recovery on or if it would work if something goes wrong.... or am I just over-combining things
so you say I should just factory reset, wipe everything and then flash the ROM?!?!
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Ok so what u need to do is setup adb & fastboot on ur pc, plenty of guides here on xda. Once that is done ul need to flash 4ext recovery using fastboot commands. Click the link and download the 4ext recovery.img. 4ext recovery
Then if u managed that, to flash a rom u need to boot into recovery, go to wipe/format then format all partitions except sdcard then u can flash/install a rom.
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abaaaabbbb63 said:
Download this:
http://goo.im/devs/OpenRecovery/ace/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-ace.img
And put it on your C drive
Set up fastboot with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
Connect your phone is fastboot mode to your pc.
Open a CMD window and write the following command
fastboot flash recovery C://openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-ace.img
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hehe beat me too it :silly: u went for twrp over 4ext? tut tut

jmcclue said:
hehe beat me too it :silly: u went for twrp over 4ext? tut tut
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Yup. I find it a bit more noob proof

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Download this:
http://goo.im/devs/OpenRecovery/ace/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-ace.img
And put it on your C drive
Set up fastboot with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
Connect your phone is fastboot mode to your pc.
Open a CMD window and write the following command
fastboot flash recovery C://openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-ace.img
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thanks but unfortunately a previous problem came up. in the cmd <waiting for device>, but nothing happens

tharrha said:
thanks but unfortunately a previous problem came up. in the cmd <waiting for device>, but nothing happens
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Did you boot your phone in fastboot?
In hboot, select "fastboot".

tharrha said:
thanks but unfortunately a previous problem came up. in the cmd <waiting for device>, but nothing happens
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did u install the drivers??

yep I've did how you've explained.... and then I tried a different usb slot aaaand it's done
now I spend the next ten minutes swearing. hope from here everything goes fine and thanks again

@tharrha have you tried searching/asking in your actual device thread as well? You're never the only person with the same error message...
We're helping here because we're nice . The instructions will be similar but things like drivers will require a device specific guide.
A few clarifications though. S-OFF does not mean you are rooted, it means that the bootloader is unlocked like we first told you.
Root is separate, any custom rom will likely already be rooted.
Flash a recovery, backup, full wipe then install the rom, thousands of guides will have told you this
EDIT: also please don't install a ROM from this forum...find one from the desire hd section....

eddiehk6 said:
@tharrha have you tried searching/asking in your actual device thread as well? You're never the only person with the same error message...
We're helping here because we're nice . The instructions will be similar but things like drivers will require a device specific guide.
A few clarifications though. S-OFF does not mean you are rooted, it means that the bootloader is unlocked like we first told you.
Root is separate, any custom rom will likely already be rooted.
Flash a recovery, backup, full wipe then install the rom, thousands of guides will have told you this
EDIT: also please don't install a ROM from this forum...find one from the desire hd section....
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yep I'm trying to find proper description for the method. I don't wanted to post it to somewhere where I shouldn't so sorry for it.
although second look for the cmd it says writing failed <remote not allowed> (same with cwm)
really sorry for causing too much trouble but trying to follow what is written but nothing goes right. don't know what I'm doing wrong

Confused, your previous post said it's done? Thought you finally flashed the recovery. If not, what have you done?
Which guide are you following?
It's ok, you haven't posted in development section at least, however have you searched / posted in the correct desire hd forum? They will much likely have better answers...

eddiehk6 said:
Confused, your previous post said it's done? Thought you finally flashed the recovery. If not, what have you done?
Which guide are you following?
It's ok, you haven't posted in development section at least, however have you searched / posted in the correct desire hd forum? They will much likely have better answers...
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sorry I'm confused as well.
trying to get information from here and there. the more I read the more I realize why I'm confused. some guide says I need to root some says I don't have to. why I became uncertain is because a couple of guides said to use htcdev although it seems I don't have to neither rooting. so basically if I can put a recovery on the phone then everything is fine. the phone finally being recognised but the flash failed. isn't it because my hboot is quite old (0.85.0007)?
I know it don't seems so but I'm reading constantly the forum (in the dhd forum) and following the instructions... probably just skipping something

tharrha said:
sorry I'm confused as well.
trying to get information from here and there. the more I read the more I realize why I'm confused. some guide says I need to root some says I don't have to. why I became uncertain is because a couple of guides said to use htcdev although it seems I don't have to neither rooting. so basically if I can put a recovery on the phone then everything is fine. the phone finally being recognised but the flash failed. isn't it because my hboot is quite old (0.85.0007)?
I know it don't seems so but I'm reading constantly the forum (in the dhd forum) and following the instructions... probably just skipping something
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download the recovery.img below, put it inside the fastboot folder on ur pc that u created earlier, boot ur phone into fastboot mode and plug it into pc then open command window from inside fastboot folder (hold shift and right click, choose open cmd window) and type
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
and see what happens
Everyone else do NOT use recovery.img below, its for the Desire HD

jmcclue said:
download the recovery.img below, put it inside the fastboot folder on ur pc that u created earlier, boot ur phone into fastboot mode and plug it into pc then open command window from inside fastboot folder (hold shift and right click, choose open cmd window) and type
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
and see what happens
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same
sending 'recovery' (6092 KB)...
OKAY [ 1.020s]
writing 'recovery'...
FAILED (remote: not allowed)
finished. total time: 1.023s
(I give up for today. I will carry on with the possibilities in the morning)

tharrha said:
sorry I'm confused as well.
trying to get information from here and there. the more I read the more I realize why I'm confused. some guide says I need to root some says I don't have to. why I became uncertain is because a couple of guides said to use htcdev although it seems I don't have to neither rooting. so basically if I can put a recovery on the phone then everything is fine. the phone finally being recognised but the flash failed. isn't it because my hboot is quite old (0.85.0007)?
I know it don't seems so but I'm reading constantly the forum (in the dhd forum) and following the instructions... probably just skipping something
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It's understandable you're confused to be honest, it's partly because your phone has already been tampered with and a lot of the guides start from scratch. It's already s-off, which is actually a good thing, saves you the hassle of doing this part yourself.
Root is not required to install a custom ROM, you only require a custom recovery.
You can root your existing firmware before you wipe and install a custom ROM. This will enable you to do things like install and use root apps. This may be useful if for instance you would like to backup your apps (e.g. saved games) using something like Titanium Backup, which requires root. You can then install it on the custom rom and restore all your apps (very handy). However if there are no real apps you need to transfer, not much point in rooting when your overall aim is a custom ROM.
So like I said you're s-off, among other things this enables you to flash a custom recovery. Follow the instructions as above.
Before you flash anything using fastboot, always try 'fastboot devices' to see if you get a response first, then flash the recovery.img
If you get errors, please post them exactly.
I still recommend asking in the dhd section properly, as it sounds like a driver issue.

tharrha said:
same
sending 'recovery' (6092 KB)...
OKAY [ 1.020s]
writing 'recovery'...
FAILED (remote: not allowed)
finished. total time: 1.023s
(I give up for today. I will carry on with the possibilities in the morning)
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Ok, this happened to me before with my sensation. What u need to do is try unlock the bootloader via htcdev. u should be able to get unlock code now that u have fastboot drivers installed. that was the problem before when it said waiting for device r whatever.