Root without Knox Trigger has been achieved....for AT&T - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3

Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422

It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.

mightykc said:
Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
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shin lucifer said:
It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.
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I believe this is correct, rooting a device and flashing custom firmware is completely different.

I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
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GHOSTIVVI said:
I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
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I dont think so. Because we are starting with unlock BL to being with. So the system that is rooting the device take advantage of it, which automatically trips Knox. That's just me conjecturing.
Just wait abit, the phone just came out. I am sure some one will figure out what/how is knox working exactly. Also if you worried about warranty there are plenty of 3rd party warranties available.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?

dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
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I am with you

dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
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thinkjoey said:
I am with you
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I think the warranty getting void is the problem for some. Not having an option to go back so you can use the warranty is the problem. So if some thing go wrong people can't use Company warranty because they will know thanks to Knox B.S. And can refuse any help/repair.

I have heard that only Samsung checks the knox flag, so T-Mobile and asurion are just fine if it is otherwise stock
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I use the phone for work. I need to have Knox in good status
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I hope you're right.
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My understanding is that the current rooting for our phone voids the Knox warranty because it installs a custom recovery. If there was a way to follow similar procedures as the Att variant we could have root with valid knox warranty. Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
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GHOSTIVVI said:
Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
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I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
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the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
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Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol

I'd love to get this for the T-mobile version - all I want to do is root only so I can change the DPI and use some xposed modules. If I can do this without triggering the Knox flag, that would be great.
I hope a dev out there is willing to look into this.

unlockingsky said:
Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol
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Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.

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Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.
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just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone

unlockingsky said:
just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone
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Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG

Candleclack said:
Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
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Yeah, it's unfortunate.
There's actually a big discussion about this over in the S4 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832&page=46
I myself am luck that I never updated my bootloader or anything, Knox Counter doesn't show on my Bootloader. (I have the T-Mobile S4, by the way, not the Note 3.)

lawalty said:
I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
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the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
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I think there is a way to root note3 without triggering the Knox just like the att note3. But once Knox is triggered there is no way to go back.
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Root stock 4.3?

Is there a root for the stock 4.3 CMK7 ? Will the current methods work on new firmware?
I'm looking for the same thing I hope we can get that answer soon
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kingnarkissos said:
Is there a root for the stock 4.3 CMK7 ? Will the current methods work on new firmware?
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Haven't tried it yet but here a link which has step by step instructions on how to root SGH-T889 running android 4.3.
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/12/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-t-mobile-sgh.html
Please Note: This method will most likely trip the KNOX/Warranty Bit counter so try it on your own risk.
Rooting is not the same on 4.3.
ciphercodes said:
Haven't tried it yet but here a link which has step by step instructions on how to root SGH-T889 running android 4.3.
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/12/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-t-mobile-sgh.html
Please Note: This method will most likely trip the KNOX/Warranty Bit counter so try it on your own risk.
Rooting is not the same on 4.3.
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Yeah, I just ran chainfires method and something odd happened. I have superuser but I can't actually use it. That KNOX BS prevents it from running and issues a security warning that reads "Unauthorized access to a secure area has been blocked tap to learn more" .
kingnarkissos said:
Yeah, I just ran chainfires method and something odd happened. I have superuser but I can't actually use it. That KNOX BS prevents it from running and issues a security warning that reads "Unauthorized access to a secure area has been blocked tap to learn more" .
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You can disable KNOX... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482306
kozmo21 said:
You can disable KNOX... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482306
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This only disables the notifications from KNOX and not the KNOX itself.
I think notifications can be disabled within KNOX settings.
kingnarkissos, can you go in download mode and let us know what the Warranty Bit shows ?
Here's how to root or at least should work. Another user posted link in Mr R root that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47694353
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ciphercodes said:
This only disables the notifications from KNOX and not the KNOX itself.
I think notifications can be disabled within KNOX settings.
kingnarkissos, can you go in download mode and let us know what the Warranty Bit shows ?
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In download mode it showed KNOX was tripped. 'Knox warranty void: 1" I ended up bricking it, which is all the same, I don't like KNOX bs anyway. I spun a good yarn to T-Mobile so I'll have another Note 2 tomorrow hopefully on something below 4.3 lol.
kingnarkissos said:
In download mode it showed KNOX was tripped. I ended up bricking it, which is all the same, I don't like KNOX bs anyway. I spun a good yarn to T-Mobile so I'll have another Note 2 tomorrow hopefully on something below 4.3 lol.
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Sorry to hear that, can you elaborate how it got bricked ?
Did you try to downgrade ? Flashing it back to 4.3 worked for S3 phones.
I mean once you are on 4.3 you cannot flash back to an older version (4.1.x) easily. There must be a way via CWM or TWRP.
Some of us can use this information to NOT brick our phones.
kintwofan said:
Here's how to root or at least should work. Another user posted link in Mr R root that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47694353
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Just a quick update on this. I used the vroot method. I am now rooted with xposed and titanium backup confirmed (I factory reset after ota. .... Much smoother! !) Oh and Knox is still at 0!! Hooray for new
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ciphercodes said:
Sorry to hear that, can you elaborate how it got bricked ?
Did you try to downgrade ? Flashing it back to 4.3 worked for S3 phones.
I mean once you are on 4.3 you cannot flash back to an older version (4.1.x) easily. There must be a way via CWM or TWRP.
Some of us can use this information to NOT brick our phones.
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So...I decided to take a chance and try to some things on my own, you know, show some initiative. I wont be doing that again and have gained even more respect for what you devs do. Here's the story. I tried to root the 4.3 using chainfires method, after being warned by psycho4us4 that it prolly wouldn't work. It did work, sort of... I had superuser and with root explorer was able to access system files. However, I could not alter or change any of the files. When I attempted to, the explorer would stop responding. It's also important to note I was never asked to grant SU permissions. That dialogue was replaced with the notification bar warning (apparently issued by KNOX) that an app was trying to access a restricted area of the device (lol) which I ignored. So now I have my Note II with SU and KNOX tripped showing warranty void 1 in the download mode So I'm thinking "Ok I'll flash back to MD1 with ODIN" Into download mode I go and start up ol ODIN I load the firmware and let it run. After going through the entire process it fails at the end. Now I have the Keis firmware failed screen....a brick.
kingnarkissos said:
So...I decided to take a chance and try to some things on my own, you know, show some initiative. I wont be doing that again and have gained even more respect for what you devs do. Here's the story. I tried to root the 4.3 using chainfires method, after being warned by psycho4us4 that it prolly wouldn't work. It did work, sort of... I had superuser and with root explorer was able to access system files. However, I could not alter or change any of the files. When I attempted to, the explorer would stop responding. It's also important to note I was never asked to grant SU permissions. That dialogue was replaced with the notification bar warning (apparently issued by KNOX) that an app was trying to access a restricted area of the device (lol) which I ignored. So now I have my Note II with SU and KNOX tripped showing warranty void 1 in the download mode So I'm thinking "Ok I'll flash back to MD1 with ODIN" Into download mode I go and start up ol ODIN I load the firmware and let it run. After going through the entire process it fails at the end. Now I have the Keis firmware failed screen....a brick.
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Not really bricked. Odin the 4.3 ota again and you'll be right back up and running
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kingnarkissos said:
In download mode it showed KNOX was tripped. 'Knox warranty void: 1" I ended up bricking it, which is all the same, I don't like KNOX bs anyway. I spun a good yarn to T-Mobile so I'll have another Note 2 tomorrow hopefully on something below 4.3 lol.
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Just curious how you say to have gotten one by tomorrow ive been with tmobile/voicestream for 13 years and have yet to see a phone overnighted, also to fix your problem just odin it again with new 4.3 phone will work
kintwofan said:
Just a quick update on this. I used the vroot method. I am now rooted with xposed and titanium backup confirmed (I factory reset after ota. .... Much smoother! !) Oh and Knox is still at 0!! Hooray for new
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I'm having trouble deciding which route I want to go. Don't know if I want to use the link with the Warranty Safe Root way(have already cooked the rom per it's directions) or if I want to go the cf-auto root way. I don't know anything about the vroot method. Any thoughts or insight would be appreciated.
I thought I'd be clever too and do a factory reset from the phone and it hung on the tmo boot screen, but I ended up downloading the stock 4.3 tar file and ODIN back to 4.3 and it works again.
The Chainfire root way is definitely not the way to go as it does not work.
Going to try the vroot way to see if I can get root back.
With vroot download supersu before starting them make sure as soon as the phone boots up after rooting open supersu update binary and let it delete the other manager.
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where is the link for vroot?
solidmac said:
where is the link for vroot?
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There isn't one. All links were removed from xda because some suspicion of the program as a virus. If you followed the link I posted you would see that. Now there are tons of positive reports and I used it. My antivirus didn't report it either. However, if you feel comfortable using it you will need to Google it
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Honestly is probably best for most users to hold tight until mattlowry gets the knox free and rooted version released
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kintwofan said:
There isn't one. All links were removed from xda because some suspicion of the program as a virus. If you followed the link I posted you would see that. Now there are tons of positive reports and I used it. My antivirus didn't report it either. However, if you feel comfortable using it you will need to Google it
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Honestly is probably best for most users to hold tight until mattlowry gets the knox free and rooted version released
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I dont have a custom recovery installed, so i need to do this. I see lots of different versions of vroot, is the latest version?
EDIT:nvm its been awhile since ive been in the rooting scene. Im coming from an N1. XD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562994

I have stock 4.3 on my sgh t889

How can i root my device?
Noob here ty and merry xmass.
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Try this post, easiest way is option 2, after installation, try to update SuperSU from Play Store and you can disable Knox when it asked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1955423
Mynameisbruce said:
How can i root my device?
Noob here ty and merry xmass.
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Please keep in mind that if you already have the factory 4.3 update you already have KNOX. If you root you flash custom firmware onto your device you will hit your KNOX warranty counter and at this time there is no way to reset it. Just looking out for you since I did not do enough research before updating and am stuck with no warranty. Good luck.
i already tripped my knox.
Sad day man. I tripped mine yesterday knowing what would happen. I just couldn't stand having stock firmware anymore. Running SlimKat now and loving it. Hopefully our wonderful devs figure out how to get past this.
The sad thing about Knox tripping is that it actually diminishes functionality.
The old flash counter that was there before merely told Samsung that you have been messing with the device. Tripping the Knox counter removes potential functionality from the device. If at some point in the future you do need it, you are out of luck.
I understand the rationale behind doing it that way. It doesn't mean I have to like it...
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Knox is nothing more than Sammys new way of saying you unlock its yours but your warranty is gone. I hope the great minds here on xda figure out a way to reset the knox counter but Sammy obviously threw a ton of resources into this.
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So I assume that Knox is part of the new bootloader? And replaces the old flash counter?

[Q] Root Note 3 without tripping KNOX counter?

So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
If you are talking about the DeLaVega method, yes that will root without tripping Knox. To flash the volume mod though, you need a custom recovery like TWRP. Flashing TWRP will trip the Knox counter
Also keep in mind according to this Root De La Vega thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
Samsung has caught on and has started patching bootloaders, you can still root, but you will trip KNOX.
If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!
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So confirm your firmware version before proceeding.
Dreamgun said:
Also keep in mind according to this Root De La Vega thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
So confirm your firmware version before proceeding.
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This isn't a worry for us N900T users, as we have yet to receive an update. In other words, If you have the Tmobile variant, you don't have a patched bootloader (for now).
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DataHawg said:
If you are talking about the DeLaVega method, yes, that will root without tripping Knox. To flash the volume mod though, you need a custom recovery like TWRP. Flashing TWRP will trip the Knox counter
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Not true, you can modify the audio on the system with file explorer root or download app
mrej201 said:
Not true, you can modify the audio on the system with file explorer root or download app
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I assumed he meant flashing Jovy23's volume mod which is a flashable zip file. It's a waste of everyone's time to read your post unless you post info so the OP can do what you suggest and solve his low volume problem without root.
Is there other method for MJ7 device to root without tripping knox?
youtube video
XX_Fallen_XX said:
So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
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please email me the link to [email protected]. cheers
XX_Fallen_XX said:
So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
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I have been using Poweramp for over a year, and it works flawlessly. It doesn't require root, and you can not only use EQ, pre-amp(db +/-), bass, treble, stereox, but you can also create custom settings for earphones, bluetooth, phone speaker,etc. I highly recommend, as it is only $4.99 for lif, and you can transfer to as many devices as you wish
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I have been using Poweramp for over a year, and it works flawlessly. It doesn't require root, and you can not only use EQ, pre-amp(db +/-), bass, treble, stereox, but you can also create custom settings for earphones, bluetooth, phone speaker,etc. I highly recommend, as it is only $4.99 for lif, and you can transfer to as many devices as you wish
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I agree Power Amp works greats.
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Power Amp best music out there in my opinion. . Well worth the price
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Pajar0913 said:
Power Amp best music app out there in my opinion. . Well worth the price
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what happens if you cant find knox on your phone?
Towle said:
This isn't a worry for us N900T users, as we have yet to receive an update. In other words, If you have the Tmobile variant, you don't have a patched bootloader (for now).
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Wait a minute, correct me if im wrong but did you just say people running m17 firmware on there note 3 don't have a patched bootloader?
So does this mean I could flash a custom recovery, rom, kernel, mods and knox won't be tripped?
(Sorry if this is a bit off topic just want some reassuring clarification )
Appreciate it, thanks in advance
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MENACE_69 said:
Wait a minute, correct me if im wrong but did you just say people running m17 firmware on there note 3 don't have a patched bootloader?
So does this mean I could flash a custom recovery, rom, kernel, mods and knox won't be tripped?
(Sorry if this is a bit off topic just want some reassuring clarification )
Appreciate it, thanks in advance
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No. You could never flash a custom recovery without tripping knox. But you can still root without tripping knox, if you're still on m17. By "patched" they meant that Samsung patched the hole that allowed people to root without tripping knox.
Towle said:
No. You could never flash a custom recovery without tripping knox. But you can still root without tripping knox, if you're still on m17. By "patched" they meant that Samsung patched the hole that allowed people to root without tripping knox.
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So does that mean then that until another exploit is found, if we want KK with root and KNOX 0x0, we wont be able to?
droidkevlar said:
So does that mean then that until another exploit is found, if we want KK with root and KNOX 0x0, we wont be able to?
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There is no method that will root KK and keep knox 0x0 on XDA as of right now.
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There is no method that will root KK and keep knox 0x0 on XDA as of right now.
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Bummer. Have to wait a few months then before going XDA on my new N9005. Normally devices that didn't fail in the first 3 mths won't have manufacturer defects. Personal experience.
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Bummer. Have to wait a few months then before going XDA on my new N9005. Normally devices that didn't fail in the first 3 mths won't have manufacturer defects. Personal experience.
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I'm guessing no one has successfully been able to protect root through an OTA update? I know it's been done for minor updates before, but I'd assume going to Kitkat is quite a bit more than that.
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I agree Power Amp works greats.
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extremely agreed..poweramp the most perfect powerful audio ever..i've got the sound as i need..for metal music, never found any other music player like that..using poweramp since 3yrs ago.

Rooting, KNOX, Safestrap, Kingo, and RLDV

So i've been doing some research and RLDV clearly can achieve root without tripping the flag. But it seems too messy for me and I really dont want to be assed to download so many things. I hear about Kingo and was curious if this was useable to achieve root as well and not trip the knox flag?
Furthermore, I read somewhere that it's actually possible to flash SafeStrap and not trip knox flag? anybody have more information on this?
I just used Kingo, one program to download, it probably downloads extra files automatically (it's multi device) and I have root, pretty much painless. I'm assuming Knox flag is not tripped, but I'm too lazy to look for info how to check, since it would be too late now to do anything anyhow. Surprisingly it did not work with my older back up phone GS3, updated to 4.3, Knox included. Kingo will also unroot your phone as well with one click. Can't help with Safestrap, as I just wanted to remove region lock and kill some bloatware.
kingo will NOT trip Knox. and it's painless to do. download app on the pc, connect your device, click a couple times, instant root. nothing else changes
From my understanding it is not the root that trips knox counter it is when you put a custom recovery on
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From my understanding it is not the root that trips knox counter it is when you put a custom recovery on
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some rooting methods will trip Knox. for example Chainfire's method will trip Knox. Kingo wont
thanks guys. Would anybody know about Safestrap by chance? I can't locate the thread I once saw regarding it
This was a thread on the Kingo method on I believe the Note 3 general board that got closed by the mods because they wanted to look into the software more.
Naturesretard said:
thanks guys. Would anybody know about Safestrap by chance? I can't locate the thread I once saw regarding it
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Go check the AT&T note 3 forum for info on safe strap
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Another 4.3 bootloader question...sorry

I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
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Djspinister said:
I just want to be absolutely sure, so here goes. I am on stock, rooted 4.1.1 at the moment. If I just let AT&T run the 4.3 update, I can still keep/reroot root, I just can't go back to 4.1.1 correct?
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Yeah, that's correct. If you go stock 4.3, via the OTA update, you will lose root initially. You can, however, always re-root. The most effective method to root after 4.3 is to Odin TWRP, boot to recovery and then flash SuperSu and the knox remover tool via recovery. Install SuperSU from the play store and run it to update the binary when prompted.
Won't let me thank you on the mobile app, so I'll do it when I get home from work, thank you! Wonder what happened to the premium version I paid for. Took my money and ran lol
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Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.
audit13 said:
Installing the OTA 4.3 update will also install Knox. Rooting will trip the Knox counter which will void your warranty. If you have no warranty left, tripping knox will now be a problem.
You should also know that Knox can sometimes interfere with obtaining root.
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So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.
Djspinister said:
So one person saying you can root no problem, another one saying you might be able to root, might not? This is why there should be a very clear sticky at the top of the forums for everyone to read about just 4.3 and all there is to know about it. Because maybe's are pretty terrible when it comes to flashing/unlocking/rooting/bricking your device.
I don't care about warranty, I'm getting the S5 shortly, I just want to be able to root after the update, is that possible with lets just say the Auto root program, or is it not possible? By possible, I mean I won't have to go out and trade 7 cows for a horse and plow a 600 acre field with said horse.
EDIT: I think I've fingered it out, Thanks for the help fellas.
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There is no question about it. You can root even after 4.3 OTA. I've done it half a dozen times. Audit is right that you will trip the warranty but since this isn't an issue ...
The usual methods of rooting including CF Auto-Root don't always work and the method I've used with success each time is Option 2 in the thread below. The knox removal script disables knox ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991
Sounds good man, I'll hit that up when I get home, thank you!
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