Develop Bugs

[BUG] Screen Sensitivity Issue-Lag (4.0.4-4.1.x)

Problem summary
Known cause (might be others): selecting an app from the Recents list (Task Switcher)
Temporary fix: turn the screen off, then back on
Workaround: avoid using Recents list (you can use a 3rd party task switcher instead)
How to test: open Messaging, hit Home, hit Recents, select Messaging from the list. Your screen will be less sensitive until you turn the screen off and back on. You can view the pressure by going to Settings -> Developer Options -> turn on Pointer Location. This will allow you to see the Prs of each tap in your status bar. Normally your lightest taps that register will show anywhere from 0.28 to 0.32. However, after this bug is activated, you will mostly get values over 0.40 for your light taps. This is actually a very noticeable increase, especially when trying to type quickly.
Please report any other known methods to "activate" this bug. After re-assigning my Recents button to a 3rd party app (I'm using Simple Task Switcher), I haven't seen this bug at all. It seems that a couple of people have seen it produced by something other than Recents, but they haven't narrowed it down (or reliably reproduced it on purpose).
Please star this issue officially so Google can fix:
Link is http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=29734
Note: Downloading & using Screen filter application from play store, with brightness set to

Your hands are really dirty or really dry. Try moisturizer or something.

Been using my screen for almost hour straight now. No issues.
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Hehe yes this s gonna be a difficult one to confirm. But it is definitely not dirty hands. To clarify, a quick press of the power button to lock then unlock completely fixes the issue. Same fingers suddenly register perfectly. This is driving me nuts as the phone is not even usable right now. Literally.

@rbiter said:
Been using my screen for almost hour straight now. No issues.
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ios 6.2 doesnt get issues.

I don't know about your other experiences, but as far as the browser goes I have the same scrolling effects as you do. I think this is how it is meant to be. They tightened the scrolling a lot and I kinda like it. Before one small flick would send me across the whole page, which was kinda annoying. Just my preference.

I'm not having this problem. It would drive me crazy too. Been using my phone alot over the past two days and I didn't run into this problem even after almost 1h of continuous surfing. Also a few checkpoints of Shadowgun didn't trigger it.
But you can confirm your problem if you enable "cursor position" in the dev options (hope that's what it 's called in english). "Prs" and "Size" should need a lot more than around 0.30-0.40 to register your touch if you have the problem you describe.

I am sorry that you're experiencing this, but 4.0.4 has nothing to do with this. 4.0.4 is just software, Galaxy Nexus is not a pressure-sensitive device, it is merely touch-sensitive. Which means that software gets an analogue signal from the touchscreen, either 1 or 0. It has no 'range' of sensitivity, so it cannot decrease in sensitivity in software (if it did, then it would not work at all).
This is entirely hardware issue and I suggest either making sure your screen is clean, your screen protection thing (if you use one) isn't acting up or if your hardware has become faulty (have you dropped it recently?).
If problem persists then return under warranty.

My wife had this issue once.
It was the third party launcher she was using.
I don't think its a matter of touch sensitivity dropping, its a matter of the system just being too slow to really work right.
It was ADW EX, fwiw.

kristovaher said:
I am sorry that you're experiencing this, but 4.0.4 has nothing to do with this. 4.0.4 is just software, Galaxy Nexus is not a pressure-sensitive device, it is merely touch-sensitive. Which means that software gets an analogue signal from the touchscreen, either 1 or 0. It has no 'range' of sensitivity, so it cannot decrease in sensitivity in software (if it did, then it would not work at all).
This is entirely hardware issue and I suggest either making sure your screen is clean, your screen protection thing (if you use one) isn't acting up or if your hardware has become faulty (have you dropped it recently?).
If problem persists then return under warranty.
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Lol that is hilarious. You forgot the step where its the OS that actually processes the input data, so in that process, a ton of problems can arise.
And personally, since 4.0.4 I have also been experiencing a "similar" issue. When scrolling down (and only down), I experience a kind of "lag" like if it only registers the swipe movement half an inch lower. Its not a big deal, but still an issue.
Edit : What he explains as "pressing very hard" is most likely the fact that when you press harder you actually cover more surface, so the amount of extra input data can definitely impact the behavior.

I had issues for a few hours after the 4.0.4 update, where my softkey buttons weren't responding. Thankfully, it seems to be fine now, but it was a cause for concern.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

gokpog said:
I'm not having this problem. It would drive me crazy too. Been using my phone alot over the past two days and I didn't run into this problem even after almost 1h of continuous surfing. Also a few checkpoints of Shadowgun didn't trigger it.
But you can confirm your problem if you enable "cursor position" in the dev options (hope that's what it 's called in english). "Prs" and "Size" should need a lot more than around 0.30-0.40 to register your touch if you have the problem you describe.
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Thank you my friend, I should have thought of this; now I have numbers to confirm this. So with cursor option enabled I can get down to 0.30, managed 0.28 once. However when the bug starts, I can confirm that I cannot get below 0.60. It just refuses to register that input for some reason.
I lock the screen, 1 second is all it takes, and now it registers down to 0.30 again and all touch works properly. Its almost like some type of memory leak issue is the way it feels to me. It only starts happening after a few min of use.
Its definitely an issue now that I can see the pressure numbers. The question is what the hell can I do about it. I flashed aokp29 with the latest 4.0.4 ota merged in, problem still occurs. I'm gonna try stock 4.0.2 or 4.0.1 just to see. Thanks.

I have never had much luck upgrading Linux versions. That's why I start fresh every time with Android. Lol
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Before I start digging, anyone know specifically which driver controls the touch input? I'll try looking thru github.
Also I was on stock 4.0.1 prior to this. So this could be normal behavior for everyone but everybody is used to it since nobody stayed on 4.0.1 like me. Cause I can easily say this is difficult to notice if you aren't paying attention. The question is, why does locking the screen temporarily change it back...

I can confirm some of what you are saying..sometimes when I'm browsing the scrolling tightens up..I lock the phone then unlock it and it is smooth again..doesn't happen all the time tho..doesn't bother me but I've noticed it
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I can also confirm. This morning I found the Swiftkey was lagging on Facebook. Something like the phone did not receive the touch. Then I rebooted and now it is ok.
I did not get this issue on 4.0.2 and I don't install anything new on 4.0.4.
The way I installed 4.0.4 was from the official factory image, so my phone is fresh! I reinstalled all apps manually as well. Nothing fancy apps.

I know this is my first post, but I can definitely confirm this issue.
I use my Galaxy Nexus for development, so the screen is always on. The sensitivity goes down very quickly.
My phone was an International GNEX that I loaded the US firmware on and then I flashed the OTA 4.0.4 update.

kristovaher said:
I am sorry that you're experiencing this, but 4.0.4 has nothing to do with this. 4.0.4 is just software, Galaxy Nexus is not a pressure-sensitive device, it is merely touch-sensitive. Which means that software gets an analogue signal from the touchscreen, either 1 or 0. It has no 'range' of sensitivity, so it cannot decrease in sensitivity in software (if it did, then it would not work at all).
This is entirely hardware issue and I suggest either making sure your screen is clean, your screen protection thing (if you use one) isn't acting up or if your hardware has become faulty (have you dropped it recently?).
If problem persists then return under warranty.
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Just to point out, the phone is all digital. It does not get an analog signal from touching the screen. Also to that point you said analog but then described digital with the 1 and 0

Has anyone affected tried going between 4.0.2 and 4.0.4? To check the possibility of a driver or some related value changing.
Also, if not fixed by going back to 4.0.2, this could be due to current leakage from somewhere causing the touch to not work properly. I've seen it on other capacitive touch devices, though mainly when a non-compatible charger is connected. When you shut the screen off, the charge causing the problem/interference with the touch is temporarily dissapated, but then comes back after you use it again. Probably very unlikely in this case, unless Google changed something in the touch driver that makes it more sensitive to interference, which in turn messes with actual input from fingers.

TechNoir said:
Has anyone affected tried going between 4.0.2 and 4.0.4? To check the possibility of a driver or some related value changing.
Also, if not fixed by going back to 4.0.2, this could be due to current leakage from somewhere causing the touch to not work properly. I've seen it on other capacitive touch devices, though mainly when a non-compatible charger is connected. When you shut the screen off, the charge causing the problem/interference with the touch is temporarily dissapated, but then comes back after you use it again. Probably very unlikely in this case, unless Google changed something in the touch driver that makes it more sensitive to interference, which in turn messes with actual input from fingers.
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Its possible. I was on 4.0.1 so perhaps this issue originated in 4.0.2 but I never noticed since I didn't update then. I can add that I did multiple wipes and clean flashes, and also tried both aokp 28 and 29 (new 4.0.4 ota merged), and happened on both.
I'll post what I just sent to arbiter which gives more insight.
From my extra testing under normal use my light touches register 0.28-0.33. Especially on swipes, the end of the swipe registers 0.28 as the finger travel breaks contact with the screen giving that swipe extra input which pushes the swipe motion further extra boost. When the bug starts the touch swipe won't even break 0.38-0.40, and that extra swipe data is lost resulting in the end of the swipe data points being excluded and swipes travel half the distance.
This gets exacerbated on the keyboard when fast typing light pressed. Its so bad it frustrates my face off cause typing just ceases to be possible. Such a difficult issue to diagnose.
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Yes my face literally flew off!

Multitouch problems on the Note 10.1 (updated 03/05/2014)

[Update March 5th 2014]
Probably all 2014 Note 10.1's sold these past few months are suffering from one or more multitouch issues. From what we now know these appear to be software issues, effecting all current firmware versions for this device.
There are 2 known manifestations of this bug (or more likely: these bugs), described below. In both cases it seems to be a software issue because normally the 2014 Note 10.1 will work fine and the process of re-creating the issues is very clear and repeatable.
It looks like the multitouch driver becomes unstable if either one of the following occurs:
1. (Some models) You place (a part of) your hand on the screen for (at least) 5 seconds without moving it. This would usually happen when you are writing or drawing with the S-Pen.
2. (All models?) You place a finger (or several) on the screen for a longer time (close to 30 seconds) without moving it (them).
After either of these situations a 'defective unit' will show very erratic multitouch behaviour for a while.
It is easiest to see what happens if you use a so-called "Multitouch testing tool" (available Free on the Play Store). Such a tool typically shows all the screen areas where screen touches are detected by the device (in this case: the 2014 Note 10.1). Examples of such tools are: MultiTouch Test, MultiTouch Tester and YAMTT.
Erratic behaviour will usually start with all screen touches suddenly disappearing, meaning the device forgets that you have fingers (or part of your hand) on the screen. If you remove fingers (your hand) from the screen and again touch the screen several times a whole range of behaviour is seen: touches are detected and erroneously forgotten in quick succession. Sometimes so-called ghost-touches appear (meaning, the device will detect touches not anywhere close to where you are actually touching the screen).
This erratic behaviour will usually disappear when you leave the screen alone for a while, although several people (including me) have reported longer running issues (for instance during typing and editing using an on-screen keyboard). A surefire way to get rid of the issues is rebooting your device.
Since this is a "Note" device many people who's 2014 Note 10.1 suffers from these multitouch issues will encounter it while (or after!!) using the S-Pen. Others will notice issues while gaming or during typing/ editing.
The following clip by Kizune shows an example of what can happen while being inside a Multitouch testing app:
More videos you can find below (in post #16) and in the SwiftKey not working well on 2014 Note 10.1 topic, where the roots for starting this topic sprout from.
As of yet Samsung appears to be unaware of these issues, although several have approached them about this, returned their Note tablet, exchanged it or even handed one in for repairs. Hopefully we get this fixed soon.
Note 1: from early reports (in post #83) it looks like the new Note Pro 12.2 doesn't suffer from these issues.
Note 2: It is possible that a build up of static charge (through capacitance) is causing these issues, possibly caused by bad wiring (grounding) of the touch/ S-Pen detection circuitry.
Note 3: A new video has surfaced (in post #89) which shows 'noise' introduced in the touch-detection software while pinching/ zooming (see video below). It is unclear if this is related to the issues mentioned above.

i noticed this using the stock kb. i'm not a particulary fast typist on the screen but i'd get far too many lack of responses when typing on the split kb. standard qwerty was fine, but that have been b/c i'd type slower. i'm able to hit keys quicker on my gn8 without any misregistering of keystokes.
the fact there has been to OTA's in just a week is a sign they let this one out before it was ready. i still love the tablet though.

It happens to me too just like you see in the youtube video.

Just tried YAMTT and I am luckily not showing the issue seen in the video. Perhaps the second OTA solved it?
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 via Tapatalk.

wingdo said:
Just tried YAMTT and I am luckily not showing the issue seen in the video. Perhaps the second OTA solved it.
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Did you try the "whole hand" thing too? It would be super if Samsung solved things that quickly, but I feel a little aprehensive. We didn't get the recent updates yet in my area so I cannot see for myself.

wingdo said:
Just tried YAMTT and I am luckily not showing the issue seen in the video. Perhaps the second OTA solved it?
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 via Tapatalk.
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no, I took both OTA's Just before rooting.

wingdo said:
Just tried YAMTT and I am luckily not showing the issue seen in the video. Perhaps the second OTA solved it?
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 via Tapatalk.
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Same here. I tried a couple touch apps and all were fine. The YAMTT app just seemed buggy at times. but I could not replicate what the video showed on any of the apps and do not have problems in real world applications either.

atg284 said:
Same here. I tried a couple touch apps and all were fine. The YAMTT app just seemed buggy at times. but I could not replicate what the video showed on any of the apps and do not have problems in real world applications either.
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Did you try the "whole hand" procedure too?
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I changed the opening post because I feel many will be tempted to just try the youtube clip and not bother reading anything else. Hopefully we won't have too many people voting before properly taking all steps because you cannot change your vote once you voted (an xda forum limitation).

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Did you try the "whole hand" procedure too?
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I did what the person was doing in the video and could not replicate what was happening on his. I also placed my whole had on it and put all ten fingers on it. No bugs. I am on the second update. Build number ending in AMJ4
Edit: the YAMTT app seems buggy because the other touch apps don't go crazy when all ten fingers on on it. But I could not replicate what YAMTT app was doing to the one in the video.

atg284 said:
I did what the person was doing in the video and could not replicate what was happening on his. I also placed my whole had on it and put all ten fingers on it. No bugs. I am on the second update. Build number ending in AMJ4
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Did you place your whole hand on the screen of the 2014 Note 10.1 for several seconds, without moving it? Did you put your fingers on the screen afterwards? The video is not meant for reproducing the bug, the written procedure is. The video just shows what happens when you write, as the bug has already be introduced before the start of the clip.
Edit: The YAMTT app is not important, puting your hand for several sevonds on the scyeen IS. This creates what goes on afterwards. You can repeat it in any of the Multitouch testing apps, just place your hand (or part of it) on the screen for a while and see in the MT app what happens.

Ettepetje said:
Did you place your whole hand on the screen of the 2014 Note 10.1 for several seconds, without moving it? Did you put your fingers on the screen afterwards? The video is not meant for reproducing the bug, the written procedure is. The video just shows what happens when you write, as the bug has already be introduced before the start of the clip.
Edit: The YAMTT app is not important, puting your hand for several sevonds on the scyeen IS. This creates what goes on afterwards. You can repeat it in any of the Multitouch testing apps, just place your hand (or part of it) on the screen for a while and see in the MT app what happens.
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Ok, I see. So when I put my whole hand/palm on it for 2-5 seconds then I try to put all ten it starts to "wig out" a bit but it still registers all ten its just sporatic. Also it seems to only have a problem with like 7 or more after because I can put many fingers on it before it wigs out. I still don't see a real world issue on mine even after I do the full hand thing.
Side note once I exit out the app the ten fingers on it are fine again.
What problems are people seeing due to this?

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Ok, I see. So when I put my whole hand/palm on it for 2-5 seconds then I try to put all ten it starts to "wig out" a bit but it still registers all ten its just sporatic. Also it seems to only have a problem with like 7 or more after because I can put many fingers on it before it wigs out. I still don't see a real world issue on mine even after I do the full hand thing.
Side note once I exit out the app the ten fingers on it are fine again.
What problems are people seeing due to this?
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As far as I am aware the problem doesn't disappear as simple as that. It would be great if there was a way to get rid of it without rebooting.
You could get any type of interface problem afterwards, as even one finger touch can give ghost finger touches. I noticed things being wrong in SwiftKey before finding out what it was.

Ettepetje said:
As far as I am aware the problem doesn't disappear as simple as that. It would be great if there was a way to get rid of it without rebooting.
You could get any type of interface problem afterwards, as even one finger touch can give ghost finger touches. I noticed things being wrong in SwiftKey before finding out what it was.
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Oh I don't have that at all. no ghost finger touches ever. I have not rebooted over the period of testing either today. Are you fully updated?
I will keep checking this over time though.

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The video is not meant for reproducing the bug, the written procedure is. The video just shows what happens when you write, as the bug has already be introduced before the start of the clip.
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Well, actually the method shown in the video is the "previous version" of the current one. I could produce the bug with that method very often right after booting. But the "whole hand" method is more reliable.
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1. When taking notes at the university, I sometimes move the viewport in S Note using the zoom gesture without the zooming motion. And as you can see, putting my hand on the screen as shown in the video triggers the problem for me, so doing that gesture is almost impossible for me. I know there are scrollbars, but they move the viewport too slowly (but of course I use them when I notice the multitouch issues are occurring).
2. Same as above, but when drawing in Sketchbook or ArtFlow. And here it's extremely annoying because there are no scrollbars I could use.
3. A small annoyance compared to the others but: When I play Carmageddon, the multitouch issues get triggered once in a while. And then I can only either control the car, or accelerate or break, but not both simultaneously. Sometimes my touches aren't even registered at all. I often get destroyed due to the multitouch issues.

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Well, actually the method shown in the video is the "previous version" of the current one. I could produce the bug with that method very often right after booting. But the "whole hand" method is more reliable.
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I changed the description in the opening post. I never had it happen like that yet. Did you know you get the errors just by holding the side of your hand on the screen for a bit? I thought that was how you discovered this. Doing that looks very similar to how you are holding your hand in the videoclip.
Did you find another way to get rid of the issues besides resetting your Note?
Btw: With Carmageddon, if you are high enough level and want to kill pedestrians, not having control means your opponents die crashing into you, ending the race before you finish all pedestrians.

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Did you know you get the errors just by holding the side of your hand on the screen for a bit? I thought that was how you discovered this. Doing that looks very similar to how you are holding your hand in the videoclip.
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Exactly, I noticed it while taking notes. And then I made this my test method to replicate the error.
Anyway, here are some videos. The first shows a real-life situation in S Note with that problem, the second and third show that the problem also occurs in other multitouch test apps (yes, I'm looking at you, atg284 ).
And to make it more "real-world friendly", I used my old "provocation method" because that's how you put your hand on the screen while drawing and writing.
Btw: With Carmageddon, if you are high enough level and want to kill pedestrians, not having control means your opponents die crashing into you, ending the race before you finish all pedestrians.
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Yup. And I even got that tank-like bonus police car, so they die just by touching my car tank.

I do stand corrected I can reproduce this issue on the new Note, old Note is fine and dandy.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 via Tapatalk.

wingdo said:
I do stand corrected I can reproduce this issue on the new Note, old Note is fine and dandy.
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Did it take longer to get the erratic behavior like you said in pm? I'm trying to get the description in the opening post right, since we got 4 people now who claim they don't have it. I think the score should be 100%, and just included the Poll so that people at Samsung would quickly realise how big the impact is.

I can duplicate this.. just didn't figure how to repeat consistently until now..
First noticed when trying to pinch zoom in adobe reader .. you get very jerky redraw back and forth.. this could be app specific , but i haven't seen this on other devices
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I'm also experiencing this. It's a terrible issue when taking notes in class.
Can we expect a fix?

Buggy touchscreen which turn swipes into touch gestures or ignores them completely

I have serious problems with my Pixel C's touchsreen like Ars Technica:
Our only complaint about the display is that the touchscreen on our device just doesn't work. Taps frequently go unnoticed, which makes navigation and typing on the touch screen very error prone. Scrolling is unreliable, too—swipes meant for scrolling were often interpreted as taps, which led to us accidentally opening things when we wanted to scroll past them. The high error rate makes using the touchscreen an exercise in frustration. If we were given more time with the device, we'd try out a second unit to see if this issue exists in a different model, but with the quick turnaround from receiving a device to embargo, all we can do is list the issues our unit had.​http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...res-an-android-tablets-core-problem-software/
I made two recordings to show them, see good case vs bad case on Youtube. Actually the problems vanish on every second reboot. It is pretty predictable unfortunately, so I return my Pixel C tomorrow and buy a second one.
For me my problem don't look like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/pixel-c-touchscreen-issue-video-t3268729 but wanted to reference it for people googling about this kind of problem.

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I have serious problems with my Pixel C's touchsreen like Ars Technica:
Our only complaint about the display is that the touchscreen on our device just doesn't work. Taps frequently go unnoticed, which makes navigation and typing on the touch screen very error prone. Scrolling is unreliable, too—swipes meant for scrolling were often interpreted as taps, which led to us accidentally opening things when we wanted to scroll past them. The high error rate makes using the touchscreen an exercise in frustration. If we were given more time with the device, we'd try out a second unit to see if this issue exists in a different model, but with the quick turnaround from receiving a device to embargo, all we can do is list the issues our unit had.​http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...res-an-android-tablets-core-problem-software/
I made two recordings to show them, see good case vs bad case on Youtube. Actually the problems vanish on every second reboot. It is pretty predictable unfortunately, so I return my Pixel C tomorrow and buy a second one.
For me my problem don't look like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/pixel-c-touchscreen-issue-video-t3268729 but wanted to reference it for people googling about this kind of problem.
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I fear my unit may have the same issue.
You say you bought a second one; did google not just exchange it?

They don't exchange units, at least in Germany. You have to buy a new one by yourself

Your "bad" case looks exactly like what I typically see. Sometimes it's worse; for example in Instragram, flicking sometimes results in scrolling the wrong direction.
I just called Google support to see if it's a known issue, and they said no, so I can imagine it might take multiple exchanges to get one that works.

Pixel C Touchscreen Problem
I am seeing a similar issue. Very sporadic and seem to last through reboots. It renders the touchscreen useless but the tablet operates fine as long as I just use the keyboard. It happens at least once per day. I have tried a factory reset and the issue still came back. Eventually a reboot does fix it but I have not seen any pattern to it, this morning it was a hard reset (holding the power until it rebooted) other times it was 2-3 reboots.
In my video, using the "MultiTouch Tester" app shows the inconsistent readings. XDA is preventing me from posting a link to my video because I am a new user the video ID on youtube is XplgTK3ahL0
I did contact Google and they are sending a replacement, I was hopeful that this was an isolated case.

I haven't had any issues with my touchscreen. I don't have the keyboard though

Same issue but reseting from scratch repair the problem. For how long?
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I have just been onto google support and had the problem while using the tablet.
When I booted into safe mode, all seemed to be well.
I have transferred accounts with the google setup and it transferred all my apps too, so I will now factory reset and setup again.

Toninho64 said:
Same issue but reseting from scratch repair the problem. For how long?
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The problem recurred within 24 hours after a factory reset. I have done a factory reset twice now. It happens at least once per day if not twice. Currently, a hard reset (holding down the power button until it reboots) has fixed it the last 2 times.

FLJ74 said:
The problem recurred within 24 hours after a factory reset. I have done a factory reset twice now. It happens at least once per day if not twice. Currently, a hard reset (holding down the power button until it reboots) has fixed it the last 2 times.
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Thanks for that.
I insisted google did not close the case until I have tried for a few days withou any recurrence.
Will see.

vollekannehoschi said:
I have serious problems with my Pixel C's touchsreen like Ars Technica:
Our only complaint about the display is that the touchscreen on our device just doesn't work. Taps frequently go unnoticed, which makes navigation and typing on the touch screen very error prone. Scrolling is unreliable, too—swipes meant for scrolling were often interpreted as taps, which led to us accidentally opening things when we wanted to scroll past them. The high error rate makes using the touchscreen an exercise in frustration. If we were given more time with the device, we'd try out a second unit to see if this issue exists in a different model, but with the quick turnaround from receiving a device to embargo, all we can do is list the issues our unit had.​http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...res-an-android-tablets-core-problem-software/
I made two recordings to show them, see good case vs bad case on Youtube. Actually the problems vanish on every second reboot. It is pretty predictable unfortunately, so I return my Pixel C tomorrow and buy a second one.
For me my problem don't look like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/pixel-c-touchscreen-issue-video-t3268729 but wanted to reference it for people googling about this kind of problem.
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Looking at your video it almost seems as you're having issues only when your using your index finger.
Maybe your finger doesn't have enough contact on the screen. When you used your thumb the screen became "responsive"
Just my two cents. I have yet to see a video that shows hard evidence. They all show something similar where someone seems to be making contact with the screen but maybe they aren't.
Sent from my Pixel C using Tapatalk

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I did contact Google and they are sending a replacement, I was hopeful that this was an isolated case.
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So you got already the second tablet and it still has the same problems? Or I missunderstood something?

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So you got already the second tablet and it still has the same problems? Or I missunderstood something?
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Google issued a replacement order, but it has not shipped yet. I am still on the first tablet and still having the issue. (twice yesterday and once this morning already). I have a co-worker that also has one but has not seen this issue at all, he has not had to reboot his tablet since he turned it on last week.

superchilpil said:
Looking at your video it almost seems as you're having issues only when your using your index finger.
Maybe your finger doesn't have enough contact on the screen. When you used your thumb the screen became "responsive"
Just my two cents. I have yet to see a video that shows hard evidence. They all show something similar where someone seems to be making contact with the screen but maybe they aren't.
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I hit more than I touch with my thumb. Beating the space key for over 15 years now leads through this I think I get your point about the evidence problem in videos, do you have a better idea to demonstrate such issues?

Google somehow made a mistake and sent me two tablets and two keyboards. The first one had this same issue. When I enabled the "show touches" option, it looked like swipes were generally being broken up into separate quick touches instead of a continuous swipe. Generally made the tablet very frustrating to use. I'm attempting to return it. The touch response on the other one is great, and the difference is night-and-day.

A hard reset does not fix this problem for me. The touchscreen isn't working correctly immediately after the reset.

vollekannehoschi said:
I hit more than I touch with my thumb. Beating the space key for over 15 years now leads through this I think I get your point about the evidence problem in videos, do you have a better idea to demonstrate such issues?
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Use a touch tester app
like the multitouch test app in the play store

My touchscreen seems a little unresponsive at times, I play Vainglory a lot and occasionally it's not picking up quick screen presses and It's got my killed a few times, I'm now noticing this in general use as well.
It's kind of annoying, I hope this is a software issue.

I am 24 hours on my replacement tablet with no issue....fingers crossed.

FLJ74 said:
I am 24 hours on my replacement tablet with no issue....fingers crossed.
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you have let a new pixel ? you use the guarantee ? what delay ? how works the guarantee
thanks a lot

touchscreen issues

My Nexus 7 2013 model has some touchscreen issues. It's like the touchscreen craps out for a split second. when dragging icons from one home screen to another when i try to go to the edge of the screen to switch to the next screen it drops it on the side of that screen or the next one pushing another icon out of the way. then i have to move it again and move the other icon back only to have it happen again to the next home screen. always had this problem. also when typing it registers each letter multiple times so it looks like this: hhhhii hhhoooww aarree youuu. or something to that effect. it's really annoying. i finally gave up and went my computer to Facebook message someone. and then swipe is all messed up and it gives off the wall words and stuff because it doesn't register which words i'm trying to spell out. Often when using a news app i try to click to play a news video and it doesn't register my clicks. also on the web browser it has trouble registering my key-presses or touch for links or numbers or arrows when advancing to the next page in forums or web-pages. If that makes any since. and when trying to zoom in or out on the T mobile map is screws up almost every time and zooms completely out. anyways i hope you get the picture. has anyone else have this problem? it's quite annoying. I've been wanting to post about it for the last year but thought it was just my fingers.

My touchscreen is borked too. I can't type any sh*t, overall the UX has been f***ed up due to these non-sense touchscreen issues. Tried all possible hardware fixes available on net. Teared down tablet piece-by-piece, still no luck :/ . Bought this beauty in 2014, worked fine till mid-2016. Now it's a crap. I still can't find any worthy tablet to replace this beast. Will never buy any Mobile device from ASUS.

I know. I've reset mine a few times but that didn't help. It's working fine at the moment as I'm typing with it right now. Seems intermittent.
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Question Keyboard delay

Have any of you experienced a lag in the keyboard popping up in some situations. I'm using gboard on the latest update and it's so annoying I have to wait for the keyboard to come up

Seems like there's so many issues with this phone out of the gate!

vibrantliker said:
Seems like there's so many issues with this phone out of the gate!
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It really does. I'm coming from the op7 pro and I'm starting to regret this move

vibrantliker said:
Seems like there's so many issues with this phone out of the gate!
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I have to admit i've not come across any problems personally, although I am waiting on my Google Fi SIM (which should be arriving today) so that may change things.

My op9 pro arriving today

I too have the delay with the keyboard

are you all using the standard keyboard as I use SwiftKey and don't appear to get any issues

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Seems like there's so many issues with this phone out of the gate!
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Give examples? I'd like to see what the issues are? Is it software related? They seem to always fix those are time goes.

ddizzy81 said:
It really does. I'm coming from the op7 pro and I'm starting to regret this move
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Same. I'm holding off on trading in my 7 Pro until the 15-day return period ends.

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No major issues for me thankfully. Only minor ones I've experienced is that the "1" and "0" keys on the keyboard have a small delay before they appear. I'm guessing edge detection is a little aggressive to make sure I wanted to tap those keys?
And taking video sometimes has this weird wobble effect in the video with occasional brightness flickering on walls for instance.
Other than this, everything is great. It will be fixed in software updates. I still haven't downloaded the latest one which said it improved video so maybe this is already solved.

I have not had any problems. Not sure if matters but I always set the phone from scratch, no copy apps or backups. The most I do is export settings and import setting for some apps.
For me, it has proven to avoid a lot of "weird" things...

Not sure if this is the same issue OP is having but I've noticed since day 1 that there is a noticeable delay when pressing or long pressing the keys on the edge of the keyboard. For example, there's about a split second to full second delay when pressing the backspace key. So that means, I have to wait for that delay and then wait again for the original delay if I want to delete whole words at once. It is super frustrating.
I did some testing to see if maybe it's because I'm using gestures and the delay may be caused by the phone detecting the edge touch and waiting for a swipe inward to go back, but that's not the case as it happens with the button navigations too.

Looks like my issue is known and has been around for a while, even though it was not present in my OP7 Pro as of last week when I switch to the 9 Pro.
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I've been using SwiftKey and haven't had any issues at all. It's the opposite actually, typing feels very fast and smooth, keyboard always appears instantly and the haptics when typing are very satisfying. Hope it gets fixed for you guys.

DashDashCZ said:
I've been using SwiftKey and haven't had any issues at all. It's the opposite actually, typing feels very fast and smooth, keyboard always appears instantly and the haptics when typing are very satisfying. Hope it gets fixed for you guys.
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Glad to know it doesn't seem to be a universal thing, thanks for letting us know. I'm hesitant to restore to factory settings due to the time it'll take to get everything set up again, but I may have to bite the bullet soon.

ddizzy81 said:
Have any of you experienced a lag in the keyboard popping up in some situations. I'm using gboard on the latest update and it's so annoying I have to wait for the keyboard to come up
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I've never once encountered the problem you're referring to.
I Use gboard beta (this is better anyway because it has all the cutting edge sh1t), and turn off all system animations.
Problem fixed. You're welcome.

Update: This problem seems to have went away after the latest update

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Update: This problem seems to have went away after the latest update
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Sadly I can't update just yet as the install fails, likely due to me flashing the EU boot image on my global variant. When I update I hope my issue is fixed. I also just realized that my issue is a tad bit different than OP's. I decided to make a short video for you all to see, link at the bottom.
I started typing in the center of the keyboard so you can see how quick and responsive it is. Then I go to the edges and you'll see there's like a full second delay until the phone picks up the touch for the key. For the scrolling, I tested along the entire edge and it was the same which leads me to believe my issue is not a keyboard typing issue, but a full screen edge touch delay detection issue. You'll see that when I start the scrolling in the center of the screen, it's quick and smooth. When starting the scroll from the edge of the screen, it initially jumps before scrolling smoothly.
I swear it almost feels like the phone detects the touch on the edge but does not register it right away and instead waits a second to see if I will then slide in from the edge to go back since I'm using gestures. But I tried using the button navigation instead of gesture and the delay is still there so idk at this point. I can confirm that this issue never happened on the OP7 Pro that I'm coming from.

elodin_89 said:
Sadly I can't update just yet as the install fails, likely due to me flashing the EU boot image on my global variant. When I update I hope my issue is fixed. I also just realized that my issue is a tad bit different than OP's. I decided to make a short video for you all to see, link at the bottom.
I started typing in the center of the keyboard so you can see how quick and responsive it is. Then I go to the edges and you'll see there's like a full second delay until the phone picks up the touch for the key. For the scrolling, I tested along the entire edge and it was the same which leads me to believe my issue is not a keyboard typing issue, but a full screen edge touch delay detection issue. You'll see that when I start the scrolling in the center of the screen, it's quick and smooth. When starting the scroll from the edge of the screen, it initially jumps before scrolling smoothly.
I swear it almost feels like the phone detects the touch on the edge but does not register it right away and instead waits a second to see if I will then slide in from the edge to go back since I'm using gestures. But I tried using the button navigation instead of gesture and the delay is still there so idk at this point. I can confirm that this issue never happened on the OP7 Pro that I'm coming from.
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Same here. The 1 and 0 keys have a delay. I assume this has to do with edge touch rejection and it's be nice to have some settings to change this behavior, like Samsung has done (if that is the issue). Could be gestures as well with the OS wondering if you'll do a gesture, but it should not be this much of a delay. It is annoying for sure.

elodin_89 said:
Sadly I can't update just yet as the install fails, likely due to me flashing the EU boot image on my global variant. When I update I hope my issue is fixed. I also just realized that my issue is a tad bit different than OP's. I decided to make a short video for you all to see, link at the bottom.
I started typing in the center of the keyboard so you can see how quick and responsive it is. Then I go to the edges and you'll see there's like a full second delay until the phone picks up the touch for the key. For the scrolling, I tested along the entire edge and it was the same which leads me to believe my issue is not a keyboard typing issue, but a full screen edge touch delay detection issue. You'll see that when I start the scrolling in the center of the screen, it's quick and smooth. When starting the scroll from the edge of the screen, it initially jumps before scrolling smoothly.
I swear it almost feels like the phone detects the touch on the edge but does not register it right away and instead waits a second to see if I will then slide in from the edge to go back since I'm using gestures. But I tried using the button navigation instead of gesture and the delay is still there so idk at this point. I can confirm that this issue never happened on the OP7 Pro that I'm coming from.
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I'm pretty sure it's due to the gestures. I just tested it on my regular 9, same problem, it takes a fraction of a second to realize I'm scrolling and not trying to do a gesture if I'm at the edge of the screen. Does it happen with button navigation?