Just purchased 2 or these today. Getting ready for my new Nexus.. I charged these up and to see if they are working put a Iphone 5 on the charger. Neither one of these chargers will charge this phone. Says on the site and the booklet that they support Iphone 4 and 5. Any thoughts?
Found the answer.
Models that Require a Wireless Charging Case / Cover Adapter:
Samsung Galaxy S4 i9500 use directly if the QI receiver built-in back-cover case of the phone, if not QI wireless receiver is required
Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300
Samsung Galaxy Note II
iPhone 4 4s 5
The 4 and 5 if I'm not mistaken does not have qi charging capabilities, I think you need the qi receiver case for the iPhone to work. It's for all the iPhone.
The device will only charge wireless if the phone supports wireless charging. The Nexus 5 will work out of the box, a Galaxy S4 you would need the special back cover they sell. It will not charge any iPhone wirelessly at all. Not unless you had a special back or piece that turns the iPhone into a wireless charge ability. It will charge an iPhone though using the usb cable, maybe thats what it means by charging an iPhone.
This charger is best of both worlds, you can keep it on your desk for wireless charging and take it on the go if you have a long day.
Amazon.com: LuguLake 6000mAh Qi - Enabled Inductive Wireless Charger Charging Pad; Portable Power Bank With A USB Slot
If the price were a little cheaper I would bite but I'm not sure it is worth the price? Someone who has the product want to convince me?
Too expensive for something made in china.
Typical external battery efficiency = 70%
Typical Qi efficiency = 70%
6000x0.7x0.7 = 2940
Expect the phone to charge less than 1.5 times if you use Qi for power.
You'd better use it as a normal external battery that can also be used as a wireless charging pad.
timothyung said:
Typical external battery efficiency = 70%
Typical Qi efficiency = 70%
6000x0.7x0.7 = 2940
Expect the phone to charge less than 1.5 times if you use Qi for power.
You'd better use it as a normal external battery that can also be used as a wireless charging pad.
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And this means?
wyrman said:
And this means?
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I believe he's saying you're better off using it JUST as a portable charging pack than for charging your phone at home.
wyrman said:
And this means?
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Since the efficiency is so low, if you want to use it as a backup battery, you'd better use a cord instead of using qi.
As a qi charging pad connected to AC, it's fine, though.
I just got this today;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Qi-Wireless-Charger-PAD-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-Note2-S4-Receiver-10000mAh-Battery-/141047804367?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item20d71ab1cf
basically the same, a qi charger with a built in battery, but with 2 outputs.
great idea to have this as a qi charging pad at home and on a long day can unplug it and have an external battery pack charged and ready to go!
only downside is there isn't a light to show its charging the phone via qi.
I love this charger, IMO it's the best. Here is my review on it, highly recommend it.
I've been using this for a couple of months with my N4 and N7-2013, and it works flawlessly, though I can't speak to 'true capacity' as I've never drained it fully to test # of full recharge cycles it provides.
There's a slightly smaller capacity unit also available (I can't post links yet, but search Amazon for "Qi 4800mAH") that may or may not be a better option, the benefit of that smaller unit being, well, size, in that it is more pocket friendly. Though if you would also use your Qi for a tablet, the slightly larger footprint of the 6000mAH unit might be preferable.
How fast does these Qi wireless charging charges the phone?
I got the LuguLake charger Wednesday, and I must say at first I was impressed, however shortly after I was very, very disappointed. The flaws I have found, at least with the unit I purchased:
Does not charge a 2nd device while plugged into AC power
As of yet, I have been unable to get it to charge the internal 6,000mAh battery since I depleted it once.
I'm going to keep toying with it over the weekend, but either I got a defective model or I'm doing something wrong. Also, anyone with one of these bother to "read" the guide / warnings? I just have to remember not to torture the battery, and to be weary if it ever becomes smelly!
timothyung said:
Typical external battery efficiency = 70%
Typical Qi efficiency = 70%
6000x0.7x0.7 = 2940
Expect the phone to charge less than 1.5 times if you use Qi for power.
You'd better use it as a normal external battery that can also be used as a wireless charging pad.
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This math is incomplete and may not work. You're ignoring voltages. At what voltage does the 6000mah come out at? Assuming the standard 5V that the USB output is at is usually the wrong assumption for these things - they're often 3.3V. If that's the case, you need to step up the voltage as well.
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This math is incomplete and may not work. You're ignoring voltages. At what voltage does the 6000mah come out at? Assuming the standard 5V that the USB output is at is usually the wrong assumption for these things - they're often 3.3V. If that's the case, you need to step up the voltage as well.
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the 20-30% loss for standard power banks comes from exactly this in combination with any losses in the charging circuit of the phone.
I think the point is that you get crazy losses if you need to both change voltages, and do wireless charging from a limited power source.
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the 20-30% loss for standard power banks comes from exactly this in combination with any losses in the charging circuit of the phone.
I think the point is that you get crazy losses if you need to both change voltages, and do wireless charging from a limited power source.
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My bad, I gotcha.
Yeah, regardless the point is the same - this isn't the most efficient thing ever.
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I got the LuguLake charger Wednesday, and I must say at first I was impressed, however shortly after I was very, very disappointed. The flaws I have found, at least with the unit I purchased:
Does not charge a 2nd device while plugged into AC power
As of yet, I have been unable to get it to charge the internal 6,000mAh battery since I depleted it once.
I'm going to keep toying with it over the weekend, but either I got a defective model or I'm doing something wrong. Also, anyone with one of these bother to "read" the guide / warnings? I just have to remember not to torture the battery, and to be weary if it ever becomes smelly!
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Don't forget to not put 'mental' on the charging pad. :cyclops:
I purchased one of these and sent it back. It worked great with the nexus 5 but I was never able to get it to work with the nexus7(2013) I believe I received a faulty unit. The customer service was great but it would just not work properly. I bought a "Maxboost Pulse 10000mAh Dual 5V 3A USB External Portable Power Battery Pack Charger with Digital Display (Piano Black) - Compatible with Apple iPhone 5S 5C 5 4S 4 ; iPad Air 5 4 Retina 3 2 1, The New iPad ; iPad mini retina 1 2; Google Nexus 5 4 7 FHD 2 ; Samsung Galaxy Note 3 , Galaxy S4 S3, Galaxy S4 Mini S3 Mini; HTC One M7 Mini M4 ; LG Optimus G2 ; Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 8.0 10.1 ; Kindle Fire HDX 7.0 8.9 ; Nokia Lumia 1520 1020 920 900 [3 Charging Connectors + Carrying Case Pouch]" from Amazon for $35 (had coupon code) and I am looking for a separate wireless charger
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Has anyone had any success with after market rapid charging solutions? I see the OEM model number of the charger that came with the phone is ETA0U61JBEGSTA.
Has anyone found a generic equivalent for this charger? The last 2 amazon ones I bought were really slow charging & took over 4hrs to fully charge.
I use the monoprice 2.1 amp charger it works great. It may damage your battery but to me it doesn't matter I'll buy a new battery in a year for $15 if I have too.
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=108&categoryId=10851&subCategoryId=1085102
It has 4 ports 2 of them are 2.1amp and the others are 500mah I believe so I can plug in my ipod as well
Also bought their 2.1 amp car charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00822J004?c=n&qid=1365830047&sr=8-2
Got it for $6.50 from Planet Mobile and fulfilled by Amazon. Looks and works perfectly.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00822J004?c=n&qid=1365830047&sr=8-2
Got it for $6.50 from Planet Mobile and fulfilled by Amazon. Looks and works perfectly.
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6.50? very cheap
After seeing this article http://www.androidcentral.com/acces...mium-charger-rapid-charges-android-phones-too last year, I picked up a couple for $10ea. from an online source that was going out of business. They are available for ~$15 today. This is the only thing BB offers that rocks.
For an inexpensive but quality solution, try Monoprice.
Edit: If I forget to plug in at night, in the time it takes me to get ready to leave for work, I am at 90% or better.
Just FYI, for those commenting about using chargers higher than 1A (1000 mAh), the stock kernel will only allow 1A of current to reach the battery regardless if the charger is of a higher capacity. However there are custom kernels (such as Perseus) that allow this value to be overridden, so that the battery can be charged with more than 1000 mAh of current. It is recommended to not charge the battery with a value higher than 0.7 of the battery's total capacity. For the stock 2100 mAh battery, you will want to set the charging value to 1470 mAh or less.
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I use the monoprice 2.1 amp charger it works great. It may damage your battery but to me it doesn't matter I'll buy a new battery in a year for $15 if I have too.
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=108&categoryId=10851&subCategoryId=1085102
It has 4 ports 2 of them are 2.1amp and the others are 500mah I believe so I can plug in my ipod as well
Also bought their 2.1 amp car charger
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It wont damage your device. If you havent altered stock parameters than it wont draw more power than 1 amp
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I seem to remember seeing there was a cable mod to make the S3 charge faster? actually pull in more juice quicker? As I recall you had to modify the USB cable with a resistor in the right place?
I have plugged my S3 in a 2.1amp charger and I don't see it charging any faster than the 1.0amp charger. My wife's iPhone 4S however charges MUCH faster on the 2.1amp charger vs the 1.0amp charger
I'd like to figure out a way to make the S3 charger more quickly using a 2.1amp (or 1.0amp) charger if that's possible.... but I didn't book mark the thread when I saw it and can't find it again
This is a review of Anker Astro E5 15000 mAh external battery: http://www.ianker.com/product/79AN15K-WA
Being familiar with footprint of their E4 battery, when Anker announced a new E5 model with higher capacity I was expecting to see bigger and heavier model with a typical 30% efficiency loss. I know I bring it up in a lot of the reviews, but labeled capacity of ANY external battery is not what your phone battery going to see. Its a total capacity of cells inside of external battery which gets converted to 5V usb interface output and then back to your cell phone battery while charging - the efficiency loss during the conversion reduces the actual capacity by approximately 30%, with some batteries close to 40% and others maybe slightly better to 25%. On top of that, a lot of no name ebay HK sellers have batteries with super exaggerated capacity where you will be lucky to get even half of what they advertise on the label. That is why I only trust a few brands, Anker being one of them.
Once I received E5 unit for review to my surprise, the footprint stayed almost unchanged and difference in weight was negligible in comparison to previous E4 gen. But you actually get 2000 mAh more in capacity to bring it up to 15000 mAh. The battery cells are changing and improving, and I'm glad to see that Anker is keeping up with a new technology. E5 external battery is not exactly feather light, but at about 11.1 oz and 5"x3"x0.9" is manageable and actually the same as Note 2 with Zerolemon battery. The exterior is solid plastic, no flex, and comes in either white or black. For this review I chose a white unit and found it to be great to cover up any fingerprints. The top has a large power button with dual functionality to also turn on built-in led light. At full charged battery capacity, the light could last up to 700 hours if you only use it for that purpose. Next to power button you have 4-led capacity/charging indicator in 25% increments. Charging input to the battery is a standard micro-usb and has 1.5A charging speed for a fast charging of this battery. Output is a dual full usb port, rated at 2A and 1A both of which can be used simultaneously to deliver 3A of combined current. Each port current output is regulated where I confirmed charging Note 2 from one gave me max 2A and from the other one only up to 1A.
This extended battery comes with usb cable and interchangeable tips for micro-usb, mini-usb, and apple 30-pin connector. Also, it comes with a convenient storage pouch for a battery, cable, and attachment. It also comes with a detailed manual and 18-month warranty card. But there is also a big surprise. I have been reading other independent test reviews of this module and it turned out to have an actual capacity close to 11,800 mAh. We are talking about 21.5% efficiency loss which is very good considering typical batteries of such capacity have it at 30% or higher. This mean you can charge your Note 2 with a standard battery almost 4 times, or easily charge Zerolemon and have some juice still left - all this at a max 2A speed. Overall, I'm very impressed with this battery and its performance!
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Awesome! Thanks for this! What are you using to measure the charge that is going in to the Note 2? I have an external battery rated at 12,000mah, that has both 1A and 2A ports, and would like to see what it's actually putting out, as well as check some wall adaptors that I have. Thanks for the review! Anker is also one of the few brands that I trust as well!
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stanglifemike said:
Awesome! Thanks for this! What are you using to measure the charge that is going in to the Note 2? I have an external battery rated at 12,000mah, that has both 1A and 2A ports, and would like to see what it's actually putting out, as well as check some wall adaptors that I have. Thanks for the review! Anker is also one of the few brands that I trust as well!
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it says it in the last screenshot dude, really? LOL
Galaxy Charging Current
Galaxy Charging Current *Lite* (free version): https://play.google.com/store/apps/...hbnRpcy5nYWxheHljaGFyZ2luZ2N1cnJlbnQuZnJlZSJd
I actually found it to be relatively accurate by comparing charging time versus charging percentage. Ignore "Now" value. Just look for Max/Avg as your charging currents. This app comes very handy for those without root, like myself, to measure your charging current.
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Galaxy Charging Current *Lite* (free version): https://play.google.com/store/apps/...hbnRpcy5nYWxheHljaGFyZ2luZ2N1cnJlbnQuZnJlZSJd
I actually found it to be relatively accurate by comparing charging time versus charging percentage. Ignore "Now" value. Just look for Max/Avg as your charging currents. This app comes very handy for those without root, like myself, to measure your charging current.
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Thanks!! Just tested it out. Like you said, the Now value isn't what the charging rate actually is. Took me reading some reviews on the Play Store to figure that out. The Now value is what the device recommends, while the Average value is what rate you're actually charging at.
I'm not sure how accurate it is though. While using my HTC wall chargers that came with my both my black Evo LTE and white one, the values are Maximum 900, Now 1798, and Average 900. I'm getting the same numbers while using the Samsung wall charger that came with my Note 2. I assume that 900 is correct for the HTC chargers, as they're only 1Amp chargers so I'm getting .9Amp from them. The Samsung charger is 2Amp though, so it should be twice as high as the HTC chargers.
EDIT : Just tested my 12,000mah PowerBank. I got 500 out of the 1Amp port, and 1700 out of the 2Amp port! Very happy with those numbers!! Especially it considering that it appears to be charging at a higher rate than my OEM Samsung wall charger!!!
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:good:Solid review bro! Something that powerful could almost charge the ZL battery twice, haha.
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I'm not sure how accurate it is though. While using my HTC wall chargers that came with my both my black Evo LTE and white one, the values are Maximum 900, Now 1798, and Average 900. I'm getting the same numbers while using the Samsung wall charger that came with my Note 2. I assume that 900 is correct for the HTC chargers, as they're only 1Amp chargers so I'm getting .9Amp from them. The Samsung charger is 2Amp though, so it should be twice as high as the HTC chargers.
EDIT : Just tested my 12,000mah PowerBank. I got 500 out of the 1Amp port, and 1700 out of the 2Amp port! Very happy with those numbers!! Especially it considering that it appears to be charging at a higher rate than my OEM Samsung wall charger!!!
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Mike, which 12kmAh charger are you using? I know Anker stuff is universal for Apple/Android, while some other ones will drop your charging current to max 0.5A when connected to "apple" port. Another question, which usb cable are you using? Unless if its original Sammy cable that came with OEM charger or a cable like from monoprice with 24AWG/28AWG rating (thicker power wires to handle up to 3A of current), the cable itself its a bottleneck if its designed for a lower charging current. So for example, if you are using HTC charger/cable and then used their cable to connect to Samsung wall charger - you could be current limiting your phone (thinner wires, more resistance). And even if you are using OEM Samsung wall charger and cable - I noticed that in our house some outlets can't supply enough current depending on what other stuff is connected to the same shared power branch.
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Mike, which 12kmAh charger are you using? I know Anker stuff is universal for Apple/Android, while some other ones will drop your charging current to max 0.5A when connected to "apple" port. Another question, which usb cable are you using? Unless if its original Sammy cable that came with OEM charger or a cable like from monoprice with 24AWG/28AWG rating (thicker power wires to handle up to 3A of current), the cable itself its a bottleneck if its designed for a lower charging current. So for example, if you are using HTC charger/cable and then used their cable to connect to Samsung wall charger - you could be current limiting your phone (thinner wires, more resistance). And even if you are using OEM Samsung wall charger and cable - I noticed that in our house some outlets can't supply enough current depending on what other stuff is connected to the same shared power branch.
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I think PowerBank is the brand, and Long March is the model. There is a long thread in the Evo LTE Accessories subforum (my other phone), and that's how I heard about it. I normally wouldn't buy an off brand accessory, but with many XDA members giving great feedback, and some have had it close to a year, I decided to try it out. Very happy that I did!! I looks a lot like your Anker actually. It has 2 USB ports for charging other devices, a 1 Amp and a 2 Amp, and also has a little LED flashlight as well. It works great and this app you mentioned showed me that the 2 Amp port is charging at 1.7 Amp(while using my HTC micro USB cable, so it may charge at an even higher rate using the Samsung cable), so I'm happy with that.
For the Samsung wall charger, I'm using the Samsung wall charger and Samsung micro USB cable. I do have it plugged in to a power strip though, so I'll have to try it plugged directly in to a wall outlet with nothing else plugged in. Thanks for the info!
EDIT : Update - after trying the Samsung charger in a wall outlet instead of the power strip, I'm still getting 900(.9 Amp). Maybe my charger is just not putting out the Amperage it should anymore, and I should just buy another Samsung wall charger if I want to get the correct Amperage. I rarely use my wall charger though, as I just use my external battery charger to charge my extra Samsung battery. When I do plug in the phone, it's usually in to my PowerBank while I'm sitting outside playing on my phone and drinking/smoking (never smoke in my house!).
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stanglifemike said:
I think PowerBank is the brand, and Long March is the model. There is a long thread in the Evo LTE Accessories subforum (my other phone), and that's how I heard about it. I normally wouldn't buy an off brand accessory, but with many XDA members giving great feedback, and some have had it close to a year, I decided to try it out. Very happy that I did!! I looks a lot like your Anker actually. It has 2 USB ports for charging other devices, a 1 Amp and a 2 Amp, and also has a little LED flashlight as well. It works great and this app you mentioned showed me that the 2 Amp port is charging at 1.7 Amp(while using my HTC micro USB cable, so it may charge at an even higher rate using the Samsung cable), so I'm happy with that.
For the Samsung wall charger, I'm using the Samsung wall charger and Samsung micro USB cable. I do have it plugged in to a power strip though, so I'll have to try it plugged directly in to a wall outlet with nothing else plugged in. Thanks for the info!
EDIT : Update - after trying the Samsung charger in a wall outlet instead of the power strip, I'm still getting 900(.9 Amp). Maybe my charger is just not putting out the Amperage it should anymore, and I should just buy another Samsung wall charger if I want to get the correct Amperage. I rarely use my wall charger though, as I just use my external battery charger to charge my extra Samsung battery. When I do plug in the phone, it's usually in to my PowerBank while I'm sitting outside playing on my phone and drinking/smoking (never smoke in my house!).
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What you refer to is Yoobao brand power bank model "Long March". Unfortunately, there is only one official reseller of Yoobao brand in US and its KeviKev (I reviewed Yoobao Thunder 13000 mAh from them before - http://kevikev.com/Samsung-Galaxy-NOTE-II-2-N7100-Cases-and-Accessories_c47.htm). Long March is 11,200 mAh model. Did you get it from Amazon or eBay? It's a Chinese knock off of Yoobao, but it doesn't matter since it works for you. They all use the same battery cells anyway, and original Yoobao stuff might be a bit more robust and have more durable plastic shell. But listen, if the one you have works - its all good and don't worry about it!!!
Strange about Samsung wall charger. Sounds like something is gone south. Btw, don't even bother buying anything labeled as "original OEM Samsung wall charger" from Amazon or eBay - it's all fake knock offs as well. For the fun I just look on Amazon reviews, and everybody complaining about Samsung OEM wall charger not even being able to supply 1A. That's a problem with Amazon, anybody can create a merchant account and list their product under original manufacturer listing. And the rest is history because you will never be able to find original Samsung part since everything else will be a fake copy But I assume you are using your original wall charger and cable which came from Samsung when you bought N2?
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Yoobao brand is quite good. I had one before. Is anker battery stable now ? I just found out this post on xda
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361749
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That explosion has nothing to do with Anker batteries. That was highly/almost 100% due to the black cheap/low amp charger. I had a random cheap black USB charger similar to that for charging low amp Emerson bluetooth headphones, which was 400 mAH output, and we charged my brother's IPAD 2 with it, and it started to smoke. Same issue happened when charging his S3 with that cheap charger. I think it was their mistake for providing such a terrible charger, which is why it seemed the white one was probably better. The lesson is: don't charge anything that has a higher capacity/requirement with something far below it's capacity - otherwise, you're just asking for a dangerous situation to occur. That's just my two cents and observation from what I have seen, read, and personally experienced
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Excellent and informative review! 2 questions (I am a novice...). How do I charge the charger...can I use either my iphone 5 plug (output 5V/1A) or ipad2 plug? And, when charging my devices, is it the 1A socket for iphone 5, and 2A socket for ipad 2? Thank you!
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Excellent and informative review! 2 questions (I am a novice...). How do I charge the charger...can I use either my iphone 5 plug (output 5V/1A) or ipad2 plug? And, when charging my devices, is it the 1A socket for iphone 5, and 2A socket for ipad 2? Thank you!
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Excellent and informative review! 2 questions (I am a novice...). How do I charge the charger...can I use either my iphone 5 plug (output 5V/1A) or ipad2 plug? And, when charging my devices, is it the 1A socket for iphone 5, and 2A socket for ipad 2? Thank you!
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To charge the charger you can use any wall charger with micro-usb output. Since this is Android forum and Note 2 section, I assume you have one of those. Otherwise as you aware the charging cable for iPhone 5 is not micro-usb. But to charge your device, you can do that with any phone or tablet since charging/data cables have usb on one side (that will go into a charger) and whatever connector you are using on your device on the other side of the cable. In theory you can use either outputs.
Hello! Great review, I purchased it for 50 bucks on amazon 5 minutes ago because of the review. I am a noob, sorry in advance, I made this account to ask these two questions: 1: I just wanna use it for my iPhone 5, do i plug it in on the 1A or 2A? If both is ok, which one is better for the battery in the phone? 2: I will need an adapter, which one is better? Micro Usb to Lightning or 30pin to Lightning? I dont like the size of the 30 pin to lighting, so is it ok to purchase a micro usb to lighting instead? Does this affect anything like charging time?
Thanks for answering, have a nice day
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Hello! Great review, I purchased it for 50 bucks on amazon 5 minutes ago because of the review. I am a noob, sorry in advance, I made this account to ask these two questions: 1: I just wanna use it for my iPhone 5, do i plug it in on the 1A or 2A? If both is ok, which one is better for the battery in the phone? 2: I will need an adapter, which one is better? Micro Usb to Lightning or 30pin to Lightning? I dont like the size of the 30 pin to lighting, so is it ok to purchase a micro usb to lighting instead? Does this affect anything like charging time?
Thanks for answering, have a nice day
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You can use either 1A or 2A outputs. Your phone has a fixed charging speed and will not draw more current that it's limited to. So for example if iPhone can charger at a speed of 1A per hour and you connect it to an output that can supply 2A per hour - it will only draw at 1A per hour speed. BUT, if you have Note 2 which takes advantage of 2A per hour charging and you plug it into 1A port, it will be charging at half the speed.
Regarding cable, try to minimize number of connecting adapters. For example, you get a cable with 30pin connector and you can add 30pin to Lighting adapter to it, but with every connection you add resistance which going to affect total amount of current and can slow down the charging, etc. You want to have point-to-point cable. So I would recommend using USB to Lighting connector cable. Not micro-usb, but usb because charing ports on this external power supply are full size usb. Only the port to charge this battery is micro-usb because of a common connection with other charging cables.
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I wonder if you could try something for me.
Could you find out if the Anker will supply a phone/device while it is itself being charged? Also, whether it will keep supplying the phone/device without interruption when its own charging supply is connected and disconnected?
I want to use it like a mini-UPS for my phone while charging it from my bicycle dynamo, but for this, it needs to cope with a charging supply which stops and starts, while continuing to supply any connected devices.
I think I tried it before, and it didn't work. These external battery devices are not intended to work in pass-through mode. I think there are some other ones (I'm 100% sure if that was NewTrent), but the vendor will not guarantee the device under warranty because of an additional overheating and cut of the efficiency. This will really complicate the controller of such ext battery where it has to keep balance between charging and discharging of the same battery at the same time. I'm pretty sure Anker stuff will not allow that because they have smart current monitoring functionality built-in in order not to overcharge or over-drain the device.
But it would be an interesting experiment where you connect ext battery to the outlet and to the phone. I wonder if it starts charging battery first until it's full, and then switch to charging the phone
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I think I tried it before, and it didn't work. These external battery devices are not intended to work in pass-through mode. I think there are some other ones (I'm 100% sure if that was NewTrent), but the vendor will not guarantee the device under warranty because of an additional overheating and cut of the efficiency. This will really complicate the controller of such ext battery where it has to keep balance between charging and discharging of the same battery at the same time. I'm pretty sure Anker stuff will not allow that because they have smart current monitoring functionality built-in in order not to overcharge or over-drain the device.
But it would be an interesting experiment where you connect ext battery to the outlet and to the phone. I wonder if it starts charging battery first until it's full, and then switch to charging the phone
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I did just that yesterday, and it worked fine. Now, the anker would not actually increase its charge due to simpe physics: it charges with 1.5A from the wall, and my nexus 10 used 1.2A of those, and adding some inefficiencies on that it would likely mean that it would just hold a charge level in the anker battery, not increase it. But as soon as the tablet ramps its current draw down the anker would suck up any left over juice. This becomes even worse of course if you charge a phone at the same time.
One little note: The battery in this is not the most awesome (also the capacity measurement is a simple voltage-based instead of counting coulumbs). While charging with ~1A from the 1A port, when I added my nexus 10 to the 2A port the charge indicator actually went from 50% to 25%. When removing the tablet the LEDs indicated 50% charge again. This is due to voltage sag which is itself due to internal resistance of the batteries. Meaning: The faster you charge the more heat will be wasted in the batteries. So to really prolong the battery life you should actually charge slowly, at least as far as the Anker is concerned.
Thanks for the review, I will probably be getting one now.
I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.
The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.
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The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.
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It will fast charge at a higher voltage on a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, but will work at normal speeds on every other Qi enabled device, including our moto 360.
Milimbar said:
I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.
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Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C
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Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C
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I have not tried it but I would assume with how well the fast charge one works, the cheaper one should also work to charge out watches without overheating them.
Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?
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Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?
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Just from experience, no science here.
A normal Qi charger will take about 2 times as long to charge your phone as a standard 2a charger.
This fast Qi charger is about the same speed on a compatible phone as a normal cable charger.
The fastest way to charge is with a qualcom certified quick charger and phone, that is significantly faster than a standard charger.
Think I'll pick one up,no overheating,that's worth it alone.
So I'm in my junior year of electrical engineering and seeing the incredible things done with smartphones is something I really would like to be a part of one day. I wanted to discuss, considering the limits of current technology, if it would be possible to create a safe Dash Charging power bank for this device? For those who don't know how dash charging works I'll post a few links and my understanding of how it works and if I'm wrong at any point feel free to correct me.
Dash Charging - The Technology
The way dash charging works, as I understand it, is that the USB-C cable wires are made wider in diameter to accommodate a larger amount of current being passed through to the battery. The charger plugged into the wall takes on the burden of the extra voltage pushing the current through the wire and keeping it away from the phone's internal battery (which is brilliant). That means that the charger takes on the extra heat which isn't a problem because passive components are often more tolerant of heat than batteries are.
Links:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-it-works-Dash-Charge-fast-charging-on-the-OnePlus-3_id82646
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/what-is-dash-charge-oneplus-3
The Issues
A dash power bank could be charged up exactly like the phone; with the dash charger it could fill extremely fast. However, using the battery pack to charge the phone means that the internal Li-Ion batteries of that charger will be taking on the extra heat from within the case which could:
a) shorten the power bank's life span
b) Possibly lead to unsafe power banks if it got too hot
I also see there being limitations with the power bank's ability to maintain a full speed charge similar to wall charging along with what types of batteries would be needed to provide the power output similar to the dash charger.
The Solutions
So in my limited knowledge I think that the biggest enemy here is heat generated in the power bank. I feel like the rest could be overcome with a fairly large bank of 18650 batteries. It is possible to have a passive cooling system built into the power bank for heat dissipation but that might make the battery bank difficult for users to hold on their Pokemon Go outings. Also, reducing Dash Charging specifications just a little, decreasing the speed at which it could charge the device, would alleviate some of the concern. So while you might not get 60% in 30 minutes from the wall, perhaps aiming for 45-50% charge in that amount of time would increase the power bank lifespan and total amount of charges.
What do you all think? I'll readily admit I don't understand completely how current battery bank internals work to limit over-current and over-voltage scenarios as I've never taken one apart. If anyone wants to educate me and say whether they think Dash Charging is possible I'd love to hear about it. This is the kind of stuff I imagine the OnePlus engineers are sitting around working on every week.
i think that would be too expensive to make for consumers, u figure if a dash charge block is almost $30.00 this thing would be well over $500.00 which would be too much for a regular consumer to purchase just to have a portable charger, maybe in about the 3rd or 4th generation of this technology we could see one in about 5 years, they would rather make a ton of 30.00 purchases and have you buy their charge block opposed to very little purchases of about 500.00 for power bank
It's actually already there in the market,
named "OPPO VOOC Powerbank"
attached is mine, working fine with OP3 Dash,
Price is around $45-50 - 6000mAH
Charging rate is 3,5A
and it DOES charge my device up to 60-70% in 30 Minutes
it heat up though, especially near the plug (USB C end)
this is why i use the metal based USB C adapter, so it release the heat faster
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It's actually already there in the market,
named "OPPO VOOC Powerbank"
attached is mine, working fine with OP3 Dash,
Price is around $45-50 - 6000mAH
Charging rate is 3,5A
and it DOES charge my device up to 60-70% in 30 Minutes
it heat up though, especially near the plug (USB C end)
this is why i use the metal based USB C adapter, so it release the heat faster
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I had no idea that even existed. I'm going to look into the specs of that device and see what it has under the hood. Thanks for letting me know about it!
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I had no idea that even existed. I'm going to look into the specs of that device and see what it has under the hood. Thanks for letting me know about it!
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Here,
the information page from the maker itself :
http://www.oppo.com/en/accessory-vooc-power-bank
and where to get it :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/OPPO-VOOC-Flash-Charge-Power-White/dp/B00SINEEXA
I'm going to build power bank using Dash Charge car charger. The power banks higher voltage (12V if using car charger) means less current for individual cell while charging. I have bought battery holder case 10 x 1,5V for AA batteries. http://r.ebay.com/vpShFJ (I already have plenty of Eneloop AA batteries for other accessories.) Each Eneloop has at least 1,5Ah (1500mAh) capacity while retaining voltage at or over 1,2V. http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/CommonAAcomparator.php I'm going to attach 12V socket to the battery holder case so I can use my car charger both in car as well while at camping.
Battery bank consisting of 10 x AA Eneloop has a total capacity of: 12V*1,5Ah=18Wh.
Dash chargers input is rated at 12V/2.5A so each individual Eneloop would have about 250mAh discharge rate.
My old Galaxy Note 3 had 3,8V 3200mAh battery and the capasity was ~12,2Wh. I don't know the nominal voltage of OP's battery but I would estimate it's about the same as Samsung's so the capacity should be lower than in Note 3. Maybe around: 3,8V*3000mAh=11,4Wh.
10x Eneloop batteries has a capacity to give energy for charging OP3 from 0% TO 100% at least. (18Wh/11,4Wh = ~1,6)
I think in India it's not available
Sent From My One Plus 3
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/new-product-survey-dash-charge-power-bank.457920/
Squabl said:
I'm going to build power bank using Dash Charge car charger. The power banks higher voltage (12V if using car charger) means less current for individual cell while charging. I have bought battery holder case 10 x 1,5V for AA batteries. http://r.ebay.com/vpShFJ (I already have plenty of Eneloop AA batteries for other accessories.) Each Eneloop has at least 1,5Ah (1500mAh) capacity while retaining voltage at or over 1,2V. http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/CommonAAcomparator.php I'm going to attach 12V socket to the battery holder case so I can use my car charger both in car as well while at camping.
Battery bank consisting of 10 x AA Eneloop has a total capacity of: 12V*1,5Ah=18Wh.
Dash chargers input is rated at 12V/2.5A so each individual Eneloop would have about 250mAh discharge rate.
My old Galaxy Note 3 had 3,8V 3200mAh battery and the capasity was ~12,2Wh. I don't know the nominal voltage of OP's battery but I would estimate it's about the same as Samsung's so the capacity should be lower than in Note 3. Maybe around: 3,8V*3000mAh=11,4Wh.
10x Eneloop batteries has a capacity to give energy for charging OP3 from 0% TO 100% at least. (18Wh/11,4Wh = ~1,6)
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We're going to need a hardware XDA for people like you. I never would have thought to string together Eneloops to make an external charger since most of your power banks contain 18650 with overcharge protection and stuff built in. The wall dash charger is spec'ed to run 5V at 4A and the car charger loses half an amp to land in at 3.5A max. Car charger voltage varies between 3.4~5V from what I can tell probably based on the car's cigarette lighter specs.
What kind of case are you using with the eneloops and what are you using for overcurrent/voltage protection?
otonieru said:
It's actually already there in the market,
named "OPPO VOOC Powerbank"
attached is mine, working fine with OP3 Dash,
Price is around $45-50 - 6000mAH
Charging rate is 3,5A
and it DOES charge my device up to 60-70% in 30 Minutes
it heat up though, especially near the plug (USB C end)
this is why i use the metal based USB C adapter, so it release the heat faster
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So... can you tell me if a normal VOOC charger block charge the OP3 as fast as the original dash charger in package?
I saw it is the same current rate, but the technology, is it interchangeable?
Just wait oneplus is planning to release a dash charge powerbank with 10000mAh so stay connected no need to buy oppo 6kmAh one
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The wall dash charger is spec'ed to run 5V at 4A and the car charger loses half an amp to land in at 3.5A max. Car charger voltage varies between 3.4~5V from what I can tell probably based on the car's cigarette lighter specs.
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You are right, the car charger uses lower current and is probably a bit slower. When I receive my car charger I will do some testing and will report back.
The voltage variation is needed on all chargers. When the battery is almost full the charging voltage drops.
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What kind of case are you using with the eneloops and what are you using for overcurrent/voltage protection?
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I have ordered a case like this: http://r.ebay.com/vpShFJ
The car charger has been designed to be used as it is. The charger itself does not require additional overcurrent protection but in case of a short circuit a 5A fuse is needed to protect the wiring and Eneloops. Overvoltage is not a problem as the maximum voltage with Eneloops is going to be under 15V.
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So... can you tell me if a normal VOOC charger block charge the OP3 as fast as the original dash charger in package?
I saw it is the same current rate, but the technology, is it interchangeable?
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Yes it is. I've posted it in another thread as eell. Just check through my post history.
This is pure logical, since Oneplus is just a subsidiary company of OPPO, so they surely can share few technologies between each other, and VOOC/DASH is one of it,
Just make sure your usb c adapter quality is good when you decide to use it with VOOC charger.
Hi all, I'm considering getting this device, but want to have wireless charging.
has anyone purchased a 3rd party wireless charging receiver, and if so, what has been your experience? are you using a case?
thanks!
The Pixels do not natively support wireless charging. You will have to wait for a company to make a wireless charging case that adds this functionality.
For example, on the Pixel 1:
http://www.mophie.com/shop/juice-pack-pixel-xl
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Type-C-W...5277&wl11=online&wl12=329382371&wl13=&veh=sem
He is talking about something like this and was wondering what people's experience was using them
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Type-C-W...5277&wl11=online&wl12=329382371&wl13=&veh=sem
He is talking about something like this and was wondering what people's experience was using them
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correct.
looking at the reviews on Amazon, many users are claiming that it works fine with the pixel 2.
I haven't used them, my only concern is how easy it would be to unplug the wireless charger in the even I need to access it either to charge or connect it to something like computer or God forbid headphones
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I haven't used them, my only concern is how easy it would be to unplug the wireless charger in the even I need to access it either to charge or connect it to something like computer or God forbid headphones
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100% agreed.
that's why I enjoy my droid turbo (built in wireless charging).
however, i MAY be fine with accepting this so long as the battery life is great as it has been claimed (able to go a full day in between charges), and I may ask for a pair of them google pixel ear buds for my birthday.
so the solution would be to get an extra wireless charging pad (less than $10) and get a pair of wireless earbuds.
but if the deal breaker for me would be the battery life. my current device as a 3900mAh battery and can go all day and then some. but, it is 2+ years old, and the battery is deteriorating, so it's not lasting as long. but if the Pixel 2 can deliver, then I may be fine with that.
Honestly battery life has been really good for me. I get 4+ hours of SoT which includes playing games and watching videos.
AsuraDas said:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Type-C-W...5277&wl11=online&wl12=329382371&wl13=&veh=sem
He is talking about something like this and was wondering what people's experience was using them
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Oh, very cool, actually! I would also be worried about continuous unplug/replug for anyone using wired headphones or wanting to plug in for faster recharge. Let us know if you try it!
Lost wireless charging when I got the Nexux 5x. Never really missed it much. While somewhat convenient, it was slow to charge and many times when I needed a fast charge I just plugged in anyway.
So, Nexus 5X -> Pixel -> Pixel 2, same thing, I have chargers where I need them and charging is pretty quick. So, at the office, in my truck, by the recliner and in my home office I have fast chargers. I am covered. I also have a fast chargers in my backpack when I out an about.
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Lost wireless charging when I got the Nexux 5x. Never really missed it much. While somewhat convenient, it was slow to charge and many times when I needed a fast charge I just plugged in anyway.
So, Nexus 5X -> Pixel -> Pixel 2, same thing, I have chargers where I need them and charging is pretty quick. So, at the office, in my truck, by the recliner and in my home office I have fast chargers. I am covered. I also have a fast chargers in my backpack when I out an about.
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understood that wireless charging is a preference and not a necessity.
as for me, it's more of a convenience factor as well as less wear/tear on the port (and battery life from my understanding). to have the ability to pick it up and go rather than pulling on a cord is a great help.
i did this with my wife's iPhone 7. and she really enjoys it (and it's difficult to get her to adopt to new technologies - hence why she has an iPhone).
jco23 said:
Hi all, I'm considering getting this device, but want to have wireless charging.
has anyone purchased a 3rd party wireless charging receiver, and if so, what has been your experience? are you using a case?
thanks!
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I purchased the Spigen thin fit case and a Nillkin usb-c qi tag (short version). Have been using it for a few weeks and works with all my old Qi chargers used on my Nexus 6.
The case has a recessed area where the tag can sit without producing a bulge.
reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7an3sm/pixel_2_wireless_charging_solution_nillkin_qi_tag/
To throw my 2 cents in. Used a USB Type-C wireless receiver with my OG Pixel XL and it worked fine, as soon as received my PXL2 I connected the adapter but it was unfortunately insufficient to provide a decent charge, even over night, many times having the same or less battery percentage left than before laying it on the Qi charger. I have since tried 2 different wireless receivers with the same result. I've gotta believe they can manufacturer one that will out put enough juice to power and charge the battery. If anyone comes across one, please let the community know. TIA.
I've purchased the Nillkin short receiver and it does not work.
I charged it overnight in a thin Spigen case and it discharged 5% overnight.
I tried charging using the receiver outside of the case and at best pulled 0.31A on a 1.5A rated qi base.
What about one of the "Magsafe" type USB C cables (https://www.amazon.co.uk/COCHING-Magnetic-Charging-Lightning-Adapters/dp/B073HC1DJB/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1522506792&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+c+magnetic) if you're looking to reduce wear and tear? I assume you still get quick charge.
Looking at Nillkin's website, the tech specs on the USB-C "magic tag" give it a max output of 5V/1A. As we all know, Volts x Amps = charginess (or "Watts," for the electrical engineers). The power supply that comes with the Pixel 2 has an output of 5V/3A or 9V/2A.
So the phone's stock power supply charges at 15w or 18w. The Nillkin magic tag only feeds it 5w. At best, that's going to be a SLOOOOOOOOOW charge. The type 3 "fast charge edition" charger says it outputs more (10w). So the fast charger will send 10w to the magic tag, which will then feed 5w to your phone's battery.
Too bad. Seems like this could be a viable solution if there's a receiver that will output 10w. I mean, that still wouldn't charge as fast as the stock, wired power supply but at least it would probably charge. I'd love to have wireless charging with my new Pixel 2 but if the best it can do is 5 Watts, I'll live with the minor inconvenience of having to plug it in.
I thought wireless require all glass body which would be a no for me