I have rooted my fire before using the method from this thread here. So I realized the main reason I wanted to root it was to get the marketplace. Now I know with 6.2.2 you could use "Superoneclick" then after installing the marketplace and changing permissions you could then use SOC(superoneclick) to "Unroot" the device and yet still keep the google market.
My question is, using the KF Utility for 6.3 by Teamwin, can you succesfully unroot the device and still keep the market like you could with 6.2 or has this ability been broken. As you can tell I have done some research and to no avail have found anyone saying how to unroot a 6.3 KF and yet still keep google market. Also, if this is possible is Google Play also possible and perhaps Google Books
Thanks (sorry if this is answered somewhere I did a search on the forum and didn't find anything to these specific items)
NOTE: I do know you can sideload apps but I heard sideloading the market is next to impossible without first rooting the device.
Scizzer85 said:
I have rooted my fire before using the method from this thread here. So I realized the main reason I wanted to root it was to get the marketplace. Now I know with 6.2.2 you could use "Superoneclick" then after installing the marketplace and changing permissions you could then use SOC(superoneclick) to "Unroot" the device and yet still keep the google market.
My question is, using the KF Utility for 6.3 by Teamwin, can you succesfully unroot the device and still keep the market like you could with 6.2 or has this ability been broken. As you can tell I have done some research and to no avail have found anyone saying how to unroot a 6.3 KF and yet still keep google market. Also, if this is possible is Google Play also possible and perhaps Google Books
Thanks (sorry if this is answered somewhere I did a search on the forum and didn't find anything to these specific items)
NOTE: I do know you can sideload apps but I heard sideloading the market is next to impossible without first rooting the device.
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just use the utility you used to root KFU and you can load the google apps with it
DJLamontagneIII said:
just use the utility you used to root KFU and you can load the google apps with it
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I understand that. I am trying to have the Google/Android Market be on the unrooted KF 6.3 OS. I would post the article but I don't have enough posts yet lol. The article is on Lilputing though. The article title is "How to sideload apps (even the Android Market) on the Amazon Kindle Fire". They are using SuperOneClick (which apparently doesn't work with 6.3) and in using SOC they quickly root the device, install the things they want, then unroot using SOC and keep everything.
My question is, is this possible on 6.3 using KFU or is SuperOneClick now supported for 6.3...
Yes you can. Root with KFU. Side load the market (google play) as a system app along with the Google framework and once every thing works download OTARootkeeper and install.
You can then unroot an re-root at will.
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bfayer said:
Yes you can. Root with KFU. Side load the market (google play) as a system app along with the Google framework and once every thing works download OTARootkeeper and install.
You can then unroot an re-root at will.
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Ok. Thanks. I have heard of OTARootkeeper but thought it just mimicked a Root/Unroot device. I didn't know if that would work with 6.3. I am surprised there isn't an article out there discussing my specific question. I thought it would be a common thing to ask. Thank you though I will give that a try.
Edit: I haven't done this just yet to test but my end goal was to have the KF unrooted and still have access to the android market. Using OTARk makes it seem like if I want the android market I just "quick root" it back to get it. I may be misunderstood what "root" really means when it comes to the KF.
Here is a better way of explaining.
1. Download Google play store and Googleservicesframework. Apk
2. Move the Google play store to system/apps
3. Install Googleservicesframework apk like a normal application.
4. Reboot your device
5. The play store should work. Now you may unroot your device.
Kindle Fire running CM9 Reloaded
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Daevionne said:
Here is a better way of explaining.
1. Download Google play store and Googleservicesframework. Apk
2. Move the Google play store to system/apps
3. Install Googleservicesframework apk like a normal application.
4. Reboot your device
5. The play store should work. Now you may unroot your device.
Kindle Fire running CM9 Reloaded
New developer, working on my own custom rom
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Thanks for all the help and clarifying. One last question. To unroot do you suggest using OTAKroot or is there a way to make a more "solid" unroot and yet still keep the play store? Again thanks for quick helpful responses everyone.
I suggest OTA root keeper. Its the only way I know to unroot your device. If you like the answer I gave you hit the "thanks" button
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Daevionne said:
I suggest OTA root keeper. Its the only way I know to unroot your device. If you like the answer I gave you hit the "thanks" button
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
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Ok so I have everything done however it's not the exact result I was hoping/expecting. I was wanting the main stock look of the KF but with the market installed and working. Right now I have unrooted but am having trouble figuring out how to get back to my Amazon KF stock launcher and my Amazon Prime videos.
Edit: I can't figure out how to get to my Amazon bookshelf anymore. I have the Amazon App store and Kindle App from the market but how do I get back to the amazon bookshelf?
Scizzer85 said:
Ok so I have everything done however it's not the exact result I was hoping/expecting. I was wanting the main stock look of the KF but with the market installed and working. Right now I have unrooted but am having trouble figuring out how to get back to my Amazon KF stock launcher and my Amazon Prime videos.
Edit: I can't figure out how to get to my Amazon bookshelf anymore. I have the Amazon App store and Kindle App from the market but how do I get back to the amazon bookshelf?
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You have to clarify a bit more for me...
1. Is the play store up and working?
2. Did you download any custom launchers?
3. Did you download any custom lockscreens?
4. The steps you took were root, installed market, unroot, correct ?
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Daevionne said:
You have to clarify a bit more for me...
1. Is the play store up and working?
2. Did you download any custom launchers?
3. Did you download any custom lockscreens?
4. The steps you took were root, installed market, unroot, correct ?
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
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Play store is working. I tried Go Launcher to see if I could get the Default Launcher through there. No lockscreens. It is currently with CM7 unrooted via OTA Rootkeeper. But when I rebooted after unrooting it I had the CM7 android interface still. Not KF default interface.
This video is what I essentially was trying to accomplish. He has the Launcher.apk but it seems to not work on CM7 or at least not 6.3. Right now, I can't get to the instant video screen or bookshelf at all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q655g1RHgU
This video was from November, that was before 6.2 :/ I think this method is outdated... sorry
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Scizzer85 said:
Play store is working. I tried Go Launcher to see if I could get the Default Launcher through there. No lockscreens. It is currently with CM7 unrooted via OTA Rootkeeper. But when I rebooted after unrooting it I had the CM7 android interface still. Not KF default interface.
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So you not only rooted but you installed a custom ROM.
That's a whole other story.
To get what you want you need to restore your original ROM from backup. Reroot with KFU. Side load the framework and market and unroot with OTA rootkeeper. You should have made a backup from restore before you installed CM7.
Do not repeat do not upgrade the kindle reader from the market if you wish to keep using the original launcher.
It would help if we knew why you wanted to be un rooted.
Rooting only gives you access to your file system. The only custom softwear you need is superuser. Unrooting with OTA rootkeeper just makes a backup of SU and then removes it. You can then watch movies etc. But when you need root back you just restore your SU backup in OTA rootkeeper.
Why do you need to permanantly unroot ?
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Since you are loading ROMs, I'd recommend MoDaCo rom. It's the closest to stock with the play store already added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916
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Keep stock, root, add SU, (and add go launcher if you want) Just add a shortcut to the kindle launcher. Unroot. Then you can switch back and forth. Simplest way.
I sideloaded the market app with file expert when I was happy with stock.
Though I don't know why you insist on unrooting.
Cheshire.Love said:
Since you are loading ROMs, I'd recommend MoDaCo rom. It's the closest to stock with the play store already added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916
Another option
Keep stock, root, add SU, (and add go launcher if you want) Just add a shortcut to the kindle launcher. Unroot. Then you can switch back and forth. Simplest way.
I sideloaded the market app with file expert when I was happy with stock.
Though I don't know why you insist on unrooting.
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I guess I misunderstood what rooting really meant. So I can use KFU to root the device but after doing so DO NOT install CM7 and instead just sideload google market and once installed just use it to install any apps but at the same time since CM7 wouldn't be installed I would be seeing the basic interface from KF as it is stock?
Scizzer85 said:
I guess I misunderstood what rooting really meant. So I can use KFU to root the device but after doing so DO NOT install CM7 and instead just sideload google market and once installed just use it to install any apps but at the same time since CM7 wouldn't be installed I would be seeing the basic interface from KF as it is stock?
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Correct. You do not need to do anything after you root unless you want to. Everything on your KF will stay stock. I would recommend you flash a recovery (I prefer CWM) that way you can reload your backup if you need to. Whst I would do is root install firefirefire and CWM. Reboot to CWM and backup everything. Then load the framework and market. When you root make sure SU is properly installed before you move ahead. You will need a copy of root explorer or another file manager to make this all happen with the least pain.
Remember if you keep the stock launcher DO NOT update the kindle reader from the market. The stock KF reader is not the same as the market version but the market will see it as an old version and try to get you to update it.
I run both the stock launcher and go launcher. I keep a shortcut to the stock launcher on my go launcher dock and a shortcut to go launcher on my stock dock. I toggle between them as needed.
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bfayer said:
Correct. You do not need to do anything after you root unless you want to. Everything on your KF will stay stock. I would recommend you flash a recovery (I prefer CWM) that way you can reload your backup if you need to. Whst I would do is root install firefirefire and CWM. Reboot to CWM and backup everything. Then load the framework and market. When you root make sure SU is properly installed before you move ahead. You will need a copy of root explorer or another file manager to make this all happen with the least pain.
Remember if you keep the stock launcher DO NOT update the kindle reader from the market. The stock KF reader is not the same as the market version but the market will see it as an old version and try to get you to update it.
I run both the stock launcher and go launcher. I keep a shortcut to the stock launcher on my go launcher dock and a shortcut to go launcher on my stock dock. I toggle between them as needed.
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I followed everything except CWM. Is that something similar to KFU as far as how to root it or is that like the TWRP that I had before for recovery? And thanks for explaining all this.
It is like TWRP. A recovery program. I like it much better. But it does the same thing.
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Ok. After some tweaking I now have reset the device back to factory settings. Re-rooted, used CWM for backup/recovery. I used the MoDaCo and successfully installed the Google Play store. Installed OTA rootkeeper and used it to "temp unroot" my device. I was hoping this would give me access to the "Watch Now" on the Amazon Video but it still is greyed out. Truth be told, I got the month free of Prime for getting the KF but I probably won't continue to pay. Regardless, is that the only feature that I can't get with the rooted device? If so, then I am to say, happy for sure.
I've used KFU .95 and it seemed to have run fine. I have TWRP and have made a full backup.
When I use the option to install the Google Apps, I get all kind of permission denied errors. Then I tried to copy the apps.zip directly to the apps folder on the Kindle and get a "must have root privileges" error.
Now I'm wondering do I really have root? If so, did the superuser privileges not stick?
Any ideas appreciated. Thank you!
Well first its pretty obvious to tell if you have root and superuser. Just look for the superuser app. Or use root checker from the market if you have to
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I side loaded superuser.apk and that worked. For whatever reason, the KFU utility didn't install it.
I'm now trying to get Market working but when I started it, it displays a never ending "loading" message.
jwhistler said:
I side loaded superuser.apk and that worked. For whatever reason, the KFU utility didn't install it.
I'm now trying to get Market working but when I started it, it displays a never ending "loading" message.
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You shouldnt side load superuser. It needs to be a system app to work
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Hi all..
I Rooted my Fire using KFU..
Then I installed OTA-RootKeeper
But I dont get the option to do a Temp Un-Root...
Any suggestions? It lets me Protect root but that is all it lets me do..
I did notice on the check boxes for "Root Permission has been granted" is not checked.. Could this be the cause??? And if so how do I fix? I thought KFU gave me root permission?
Thanks!
I think you did not install superuser.apk on your kindle. Without it having root is pretty useless for apps. Superuser gives you an option to allow root access to the app. If you already have superuser you may have it disabled for OTA. Otherwise a problem may have occurred with the rooting process. Tell me if this works.
That was it.. Thank you VERY much...
Wonder why KFU don't include superuser..
Glad it worked for you Not sure though why it is not included in kfu though I know in the past when you manually rooted the kindle super user would automatically get installed therefore it remain on the kindle unless you wipe. Though I guess you could recommend it to the developer to add.
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First off, let me say that I'm completely new at this, and quite honestly have no idea what I'm doing.
I just rooted my Fire with this guide, Bin4ry's root worked successfully and superuser was installed and everything. However, when I tried to launch Qemu's Root, the program didn't really do anything, it just stopped at 'daemon started'. But since superuser was installed, I figured everything was okay and went on to follow this guide to installed google play. The Google Services installed fine, but whenever I try to move the Vending.apk into the correct folder, ES FE just returns 'Permission denied.'
Does this mean that the root wasn't successful? How can I fix this and get google play on my kindle?
Edit: whoops wrong device forum. Principle should be the same though.
Have you checked root via suchecker to confirm root?
Most likely you haven't given su permission to ES yet. Under tools in ES go to Root Explorer and then select the mount option. Give it Read/Write permissions and then you should be able to move it.
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What he said I settings on es explorer if it says root check it
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That worked great, thanks Protomartyr. It's working fine now.
EDIT: However, I'm getting a lot of 'Your device isn't compatible' for apps like Chrome, Duolingo, etc. and it's not letting me install them. They probably are compatible, but I can't seem to get around Play's not allowing me to install them. Is there any way to make Play allow me to install them?
Glad I could help
Play store incompatibility can be bypassed by:
changing the DPI (depending on what ROM you are running)
OR
Using an app such as Market Helper to temporarily "spoof" your device as something else (i.e. tricking the Play store to think your kindle is a nexus 7 so you can install apps that can run on it)
I am not familiar with the kindle fire 2 (I have a HD 7" ), so hopefully someone with a KF 2 can give you more specific instructions!
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If anyone can help me out it would be greatly appreciated. I recently rooted my htc desire 526 (Verizon) with Kingo. SInce the root I have gotten some apps GT message recovery and the undeleter to recognize the root., but GT messenger recovery and every data recovery app I run from the pc fails to recognize I have a root or can not get access to it. It the cases Superuser permission request doesn't come up. I have checked the root with rootchecker and it verifies I have a root.
I am very new to the rooting process and any help would be greatly appreciated.
you have to go into kingo super user and allow and disallow the app a few times. It's very annoying
hemanolio said:
you have to go into kingo super user and allow and disallow the app a few times. It's very annoying
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Gt messenger recovery doesn't even show up in the superuser to allow or disallow. I tried to disable and enable both apts to see if that would get them to recognize each other but GT messenger still doesn't detect I am rooted and superuser doesn't pop up at all.. Yet the undeleter and gt recovery work just fine