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32GB sandisk microSDHC for $99

just a heads up... did a search on this forum for "32GB" and didnt find anything. didnt bother searching "microsdhc" since so many people would have a different way of typing it out that it would be near impossible to find on a search.
anyways, Verizon Wireless seems to have the SanDisk 32GB microSDHC cards IN STOCK and is selling them for $99 online with free overnight shipping. most places havent had stock EVER since it was released a couple of months ago. original retail price on them began at $240 or something.
unfortunately, these are Class 2 only, but generally it's not the card that's the bottleneck when it comes to speed on your device. i popped mine in this morning when it arrived and have had no problems with reading at all; 350mb XviD avi rips of TV shows like Rescue Me and 550mb XviD avi rips of Top Gear all play back flawlessly on my Samsung Vibrant.
write speeds have a bit to be desired, but i cant complain due to faster cards being unavailable. compared to my Class 6 16GB card, it has no ill effects from what i have so far observed while in the device.
cliffs: $99 for a SanDisk 32GB microSDHC from verizonwireless.com with free overnight shipping. normal price from them is $150, but is on special for now... the original deal was $50 off with the purchase of a Droid X, but that seems to have changed for a limited time. cheapest i can find it anywhere else using Google Shopping is $140 before tax+shipping.

Thanks for the heads up. Do a search on Engadget for an article on it (I can't post the link). Apparently it just hit the store 8 days ago.
Still, I dunno. I'm kind of on the fence about getting it due to the price (just dropped $550 on the phone itself).
oakie said:
it has no ill effects from what i have so far observed while in the device.
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So no lag skipping/playing music files or video?

lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone

SuperMiguel said:
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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real users only need 640k.
anyway, is $100 for it even a good deal? I see 16GB micro sdhc for like $40 (newegg link).

SuperMiguel said:
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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Because I want to be able to ditch my MP3 player (which currently has 30+ gigs of music) and use my phone exclusively. One less thing to carry around.

designerfx said:
real users only need 640k.
anyway, is $100 for it even a good deal? I see 16GB micro sdhc for like $40 (newegg link).
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How many slots does your phone have?
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How many slots does your phone have?
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What does this have to do with my vibrant? I would hope most people know it's only got one place to put a micro sdhc

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What does this have to do with my vibrant? I would hope most people know it's only got one place to put a micro sdhc
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I think they meant to point out that unless you want to carry around a tiny breakable easy to lose 16gb card in ur pocket or bag and switch out when you need to, having 32gb in one card is more convenient which combined with how newly available the card is, it is quite cheap for the price. You only pay a bit more per GB in this case, normally you'd pay 2-3x more in the beginning for the new highest capacity in flash memory.

ben7337 said:
I think they meant to point out that unless you want to carry around a tiny breakable easy to lose 16gb card in ur pocket or bag and switch out when you need to, having 32gb in one card is more convenient which combined with how newly available the card is, it is quite cheap for the price. You only pay a bit more per GB in this case, normally you'd pay 2-3x more in the beginning for the new highest capacity in flash memory.
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Ding ding ding - winnar!
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ben7337 said:
I think they meant to point out that unless you want to carry around a tiny breakable easy to lose 16gb card in ur pocket or bag and switch out when you need to, having 32gb in one card is more convenient which combined with how newly available the card is, it is quite cheap for the price. You only pay a bit more per GB in this case, normally you'd pay 2-3x more in the beginning for the new highest capacity in flash memory.
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What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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designerfx said:
What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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I know at least for me, there's never enough space. Unless they somehow manage to offer Terabyte microSD cards. Even the, I'm sure I'd find a sure for it.
Music, movies, games, ebooks, audiobooks, work files, space for pictures and videos, etc.
Do you NEED to have that much stuff on you? No, but it's nice to have access to everthing and worry less about space.
I know I have 14gb of music on my card and that's mostly just ONE genre of music. I have over 150gb of music. And yes, I do listen to all 14gb that I do have on there. It's good to have access to lots of music for parties and get togethers. Remote access is not always a perfect solution.
Again, I don't NEED all the space, but I sure as heck will use it when I have it.
If I had more space, I'd also partition space on my phone for portable apps. Having access to FireFox, GIMP, Openoffice, 7zip, etc wherever I go is a huge plus.

Maverick777 said:
I know at least for me, there's never enough space. Unless they somehow manage to offer Terabyte microSD cards. Even the, I'm sure I'd find a sure for it.
Music, movies, games, ebooks, audiobooks, work files, space for pictures and videos, etc.
Do you NEED to have that much stuff on you? No, but it's nice to have access to everthing and worry less about space.
I know I have 14gb of music on my card and that's mostly just ONE genre of music. I have over 150gb of music. And yes, I do listen to all 14gb that I do have on there. It's good to have access to lots of music for parties and get togethers. Remote access is not always a perfect solution.
Again, I don't NEED all the space, but I sure as heck will use it when I have it.
If I had more space, I'd also partition space on my phone for portable apps. Having access to FireFox, GIMP, Openoffice, 7zip, etc wherever I go is a huge plus.
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well yes, I agree, there are things to use the space. I'm just saying given the phone limitations wouldn't it be easier to dropbox and/or grab crap off the pc? The thing does have allshare/server capabilities to make that easier.

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well yes, I agree, there are things to use the space. I'm just saying given the phone limitations wouldn't it be easier to dropbox and/or grab crap off the pc? The thing does have allshare/server capabilities to make that easier.
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Do you need to be plugged into the PC to get the files off of it? I assume you do, but even if you didn't, think of all the battery power wasted to get the files when you want them. e.g. let's say I am on a bus or stuck waiting for something and want to watch a show or movie on my pc on my phone. I'd need to get on 3g, hope it can all stream fast enough, and the battery would run out super fast using 3g and playing a video all at once.
Also as for the 32gb 16gb argument. I might be able to work with limited storage, but I personally could fill about 5tb or more with anime and movies and tv shows that I'd like, and if I could carry all of that on my phone, and be able to select anything I want immediately and have it right there, that would be amazingly convenient. Therefore as far as I am concerned 16gb, 32gb, it's never really enough, people can always fill more space. However I will deal with having only a 16gb card on my Epic 4G when it comes out.

I thought the max microSD card the phone accepts is 16 gigs as per specs supplied in the manual. Guess those are wrong then? Good to know! Thanks for posting this topic!!
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SuperMiguel said:
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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Duh, for all the porn you gotta shove on the ***** for on-the-go wanking!!! lmao

Wonder if you could rig it up to work with a WHS box streaming from home? Just a thought. That's what I'll do at work tomorrow I think.

bobofosho123 said:
Duh, for all the porn you gotta shove on the ***** for on-the-go wanking!!! lmao
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What else are you going to do with that beautiful AMOLED screen? Duh

designerfx said:
What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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i can fit 20GB of movies, TV shows, and music on a single card without having to connect my phone to a computer to add more.
THAT wont fit on a 16GB card. i dont carry my laptop wherever i go, therefore i dont really have access to any data beyond the 16GB card. maybe you are always near your computer, but i'm not.

Inat said:
So no lag skipping/playing music files or video?
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none.
i set the removable card slot as the save point for the camcorder app and recorded nearly 7 minutes of video with lots of movement. no issues when recording.
i then played it back using both the built-in video player and eStrong File Explorer's built-in video player and experienced no dropped frames, freezing, or slowdowns, nor did the audio and video go out of sync.
i'm a hobbyist photographer so reliable, fast memory cards are something i'm always on the lookout for. because of this, i've sampled a lot of different brands in the past (i'm always testing different brands to try and find cheaper alternatives for my camera) and have found that SanDisk flash memory cards are consistently much faster than their rated spec. this result with the 32GB microSD is probably no different nor that unusual, based on my previous experience.
if i have some free time this morning and will do some read/write tests of the SanDisk 32GB Class 2 card alongside the original Samsung 2GB card that the Vibrant came with, a SanDisk 2GB Class 2 card, and a SanDisk 16GB Class 6 card i used in my HD2.

SuperMiguel said:
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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designerfx said:
What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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i really dont understand how anyone can manage to COMPLAIN about more data space, or that someone bothered to share a good deal they had found. either you people lead unhappy lives or you're lashing out because you're unable to afford one... because there's no logical explanation you can create to support an argument against a 32GB card except price.
Texag2010 said:
I thought the max microSD card the phone accepts is 16 gigs as per specs supplied in the manual. Guess those are wrong then? Good to know! Thanks for posting this topic!!
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the microSDHC spec allows for up to 32GB. it's just taken this long (released in the beginning of this year, or so) for a company to create a chip dense enough to reliably manufacture a 32GB microSD card.
the new spec, microSDXC, will cover sizes ranging from 32GB up to 2TB in the Secure Digital format. 64GB SDXC cards are already available from Panasonic and SanDisk.

Galaxy Note II - Storage question

Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.

Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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Internal NAND is usually orders of magnitude faster. Also, it is less complicated to deal with when you dont have to play the "Which Partition To Use Today" game.

Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.

I appreciate all the responses so far. I'm thinking I might just get the 32 GB middle-ground in this case (which is what I did when I bought my to-be-replaced iPhone 4), and it's served me well enough. If the difference between 32 GB and 64 GB ends up being $50.00 I'll likely just pick up the larger one as, at least in Canada, it's a 3-year phone term, so, I might as well add as much life to it as I can up front.
I definitely agree with the NAND vs MSDHC performance. The reason I only question it is that I am, of course, thinking of only doing a media dump on the device. Now, I also plan on loading in direct Blu-ray to 720p files, so, I'm not sure of the performance marker there of pulling 720p content from a MSDHC to the device would be, but I can only imagine my performance would be better realised if I was pulling it direct off the NAND.
I guess it'll come down to price, more than anything. I am not heavy into doing large-media storage, so, I doubt there will be much going on where I really need to hit 128 GB of space, but, you know, having the option is nice, especially when travelling around. At least Samsung didn't decide to get foolish and only offer the internal NAND as options, MSDHC is definitely a very nice feature in a device that's intended to bridge the smartphone and tablet market.

...it will also come down to what AT&T offers!!!!
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Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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It's the same game that has been around for decades now regarding storage space and price. The price per unit of storage is always going down and your usage of said storage is always going up. One day you will be wondering how you lived with anything less than an Exabyte of space and laugh at those who paid $100 per terabyte. There are only relative usage profiles for the space and everyone's budget is also relative. For me, I will be rocking the 64GB variant with a 64GB micro SD card and claim 128GB in 2012... but you sir will have the last laugh at my expense

16gb internal with micro sd is better, so all game data will go to internal sd, while all your important file(pics,mp3,vids etc) in your micro sd(whatever size it is) much safer if something wrong happen to internal sd
32gb way to much, better having a large micro sd than internal sd
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If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.

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If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.
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16gb wont enough?
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robyr said:
Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.
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Sweeping comment, TROLLING?? I have seen many Micro SD cards from Sandisk reaching upto 100MBps despite being marketed as Class 10. This is VERY IRRESPONSIBLE comment as there is no holy grail engraved in your beloved "NAND" Flash. Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
One major benefit of having 64GB onboard would be Micro SD card will become more redundant if you live with that space for years. Also, you would have an opportunity to have upto 124GB or so when using 64GB Micro SD cards (I am optimistic though that these new phones may support even higher capacity 128GB or so MSD cards may be after some software tweaks by some of our dev gurus here).

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16gb wont enough?
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Not for me. I ran out of storage already.
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Prankey said:
Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
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All card readers/writers have their throughput limits.
How fast the note 2's is is yet to be determined.
Has anyone determined the max write /read speed of the note 1?
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Preorder 32/64 GB

The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks

MartinDLawliet said:
The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.

djfuego said:
Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
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Because I choose to buy a 64GB version. I didn't ask which one I should get, I asked where I could find those versions. Anyway most high end Android phones can all be overclocked. Like One X or S III. People run them at 1.8GHz without issues.

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Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
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Your storage space issue is for me the easiest to answer. I am an extensive user of audio books. The teaching company series, Will Durant's seminal 12 volume series, podcasts, science fiction audio... Asimov, Huxley, Clarke, current fiction, "Why the West Rules for Now" (i highly recommend by the way) is how i keep sane on morning and evening commutes. I have a 16gb g-note and a 64gb SD card and i use all of this storage. Samsung's release of a new 128gb SD card will be none to soon, and if it cannot be utilized on my current note, it will most likely spur me to buy the note 2 with 2 GB ram and 64 GB SD internal. I also can access and stream from my collection on my home server but my at&t "unlimited" isn't, so i use WiFi whenever possible. This means that i use the phones memory as a cache buffer to limit my telecoms' leverage. Concerning speed. I am currently testing an incredible voice control app called Utter. Extremely flexible, configurable and powerful. Coupled with Ivona voice the results are simply stunning. I am also running a custom JellyBean rom called slimbean that is half the size of ice cream, is overclocked at 1.8 ghz and is as smooth as a baby's butt. I've been overclocking and flashing roms since i joined xda, its why i joined xda. I understand your credulity, we do still call these devices phones after all. i am also aware that my setup and usage is not typical, yet it is just this flexibility of android and current Samsung products that make them so attractive people like us with such differing needs and views.
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To the Op, i am keeping my eye out for the larger 32/64 internal storage versions and will let you know if i stumble on a release date reference. Thanks for starting this thread
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Every time someone responds to a person who asks about when a model with a larger storage will be out with the "you don't need that much" line, or something like that, they should get an infraction.

Hotobu said:
Every time someone responds to a person who asks about when a model with a larger storage will be out with the "you don't need that much" line, or something like that, they should get an infraction.
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3 strike policy, and you're out of XDA, haha

First time i heard the "you don't need that much.... " line was when i opted for a 10MB hard drive for my then new spanking hot PC AT. It had a 16bit processor and 512kb of ram...my buddy had the
commodore 64 (64 KB of ram and a cassette based memory). Despite his lack of technical sense, we remain friends to this day. Unsurprisingly, he favors that other phone ecosystem....the glass jewelry ones with those little screens. He still freaks out when he sees my note. His first words? Yeah, you guessed it; " you don't need that much..." I notice his wife checking it out though... So maybe there is some justice in this life
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You only get to see the true value of a decision if you get to live with it.
I had friends that laughed at me s3 about its size. Now one of thes ( a .... girl! ) got one for free
Her first reaction was "un#@#$ing believable... i was blind and now i saw!"
Same thing with 2nd battery. People give 500+$ for a phone and they don't get an extra battery and a charger.
If i borrow them mine for a few days they get to "see the light"
Same thing with sd cards. From 16 to 32 and from there to 64gb they were telling me what you will do with all that space for ?
Guess what? Its usually full.
So i ll be waiting for the 32gb at least , i dont believe we will see a 64gb version sadly
We might need to wait for a month or so to get it

64gb + 64gb
I have about 80GB of mp3 files which I want to carry around with me. I have several GB more of pictures I have a Galaxy S3 with 32GB internal and a 64GB card, and it's getting crowded. And I'll keep adding more files. Maybe one day I'll be comfortable with keeping this in "the cloud", or streaming it from HDs in my house, but right now I want it all on my phone.
Right now Samsung's web page only mentions a 16GB version for US carriers. I definitely won't buy that.
I agree with the philosophy of not questioning why someone wants the storage they want.

It is already available for pre-order on some sites (handyshop.de) by an exorbitant price of 899 eur and a delivery date at the end of October...

MartinDLawliet said:
The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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I was wondering the same as well. I just ordered my Note 2, but am wondering about the storage. I have a 16GB Nexus 7 and have found that with no music/videos/picutres stored, I cannot download all of my apps without getting a low storage warning.
Anyone have issues with downloading around 200 apps on a 16GB Note 2? I know you can add an SD Card, but that doesnt help with app storage, correct? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

022908ali said:
I was wondering the same as well. I just ordered my Note 2, but am wondering about the storage. I have a 16GB Nexus 7 and have found that with no music/videos/picutres stored, I cannot download all of my apps without getting a low storage warning.
Anyone have issues with downloading around 200 apps on a 16GB Note 2? I know you can add an SD Card, but that doesnt help with app storage, correct? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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just wait and purchased highest memory storage device.. 16gb will give you actually 11gb and which will spent very fast..
I am going to sell my 16gb note 2 soon.. its worthless as we cant install apps on external SDCard

Memory question

I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available. Is everyone getting that little space? My Nexus 7 had something like 13.5GB free, and my Note 10.1 had around 12GB free. I know you lose a bit due to file system format, etc...but over 6GB of 16? That seems messed up.
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ExploreMN said:
I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available.
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I saw in another thread in one of these xda Note 8.0 forums about folks mentioning the same thing, so I'm pretty sure it is not just you. Yeah, it is disappointing.

Yup. Samsung are taking massive chunks for system memory these days.
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Nexus 7, plain android. Note 8, touchwiz, plus lots of bloat.
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Warrior1975 said:
Nexus 7, plain android. Note 8, touchwiz, plus lots of bloat.
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4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.

Don't have my device on me, but a df might tell how much of the /system partition's actually in use. My memory is that it's only about 60% or so.
parted can probably be used to resize /system but unless it's adjacent to /data, you'll want to take very careful notes before attempting that surgery.
Fortunately, you can use uni-init or term-init.sh to enable init.d scripts and then mount the sdcard as if it were internal storage. Most of my app data is written to my sdcard using that technique.

But we have an sd card slot, my N7 doesn't. Thats a nice addition to have.
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4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
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Its not just bloat (apps) but OS (ROM) itself takes up more memory once the manufacturers start to add their proprietary "skins" to vanilla Android. Think of the extra features like Multi-Window and Smart Stay. That stuff takes up space, and the stock ROM is pretty huge (over 1 GB, I believe).
Not to mention, Sammy probaby reserves a chunk more on the ROM partition, in case they want to add more features on future updates.
Its very much the same on HTC devices, as well. On my One X, its also got 16 GB of memory, but only 9.93 GB available as storage.
ExploreMN said:
Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.
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It would be nice if they actually reported the "user accessible storage" amount, like saying "16 GB memory, with 10 GB user accessible". Since saying how much memory the device has, without telling us how much of it is sucked up by the OS, is kinda useless information.
It would have also been nice, if they had offered a 32 GB version in the US.

No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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Warrior1975 said:
No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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Its more like the car company telling you the gas tank holds 16 gallons, when you can in fact only "use" 10 gallons of the gas tank.

I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.

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I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.
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Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.

hertsjoatmon said:
Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.
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Thanks. I will go back to check with store on whether their demo set were the 8GB or 16GB version. I've googled for the tech spec on Note 8 and all comes with 16GB or 32GB. The nearest match to 8GB will be on a Tab2. Thanks again and I'm from Singapore.

Alright, I have checked with the store assistance and it was confirmed that at hit on display were Wi-Fi only and it's only at 8GB. I'm a happy owner of Note 8 now and it has 8.7GB of available storage.
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[Q] Do I need 32G if I'm going to use a microSD?

Looking at a Galaxy Tab S. Is the 32G worth it over the 16G if I'm going to use a large microSD? Does the Tab S allow easy push to the microSD? How large can you use?
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4Nails

You dont really need that huge space just stream music/movies, & upload all your stuff

I think you get like 10 or 12 usable GB with 16 GB.

4Nails said:
Looking at a Galaxy Tab S. Is the 32G worth it over the 16G if I'm going to use a large microSD? Does the Tab S allow easy push to the microSD? How large can you use?
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4Nails
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I've got a 64gb card in mine (Wifi). You can have music & videos as well as move apps2sd. I'm not always near a wifi hotspot (unless I use my phone) so it's convenient.

Get the 32GB version, or you will regret it. The stock software uses up 9 GB, so right off the bat you only have 7 GB or so to use. You can store all your media on a micro SD card, but not all apps support move to SD. So depending on the apps you use, you can end up with a lot of apps that doesn't support apps to SD.
Edit: after removing some updates for the stock apps I was able to shrink system file size to just 5 GB, so there is 11 GB available.

Unless you get the 32GB at a good price, I would not worry about getting it over the 16GB. With apps like app2sd and Foldermount, you can easily move apps to the microsd card. I have most of mine running off of 64GB microsd just fine. Save your money and put it toward the SD card. Now again, if it's only marginally more, say $50, then I would indeed get it. I know Best Buy only charges $50 more but a lot of deals can be found on the 16GB model making the delta much greater. Shop around, you should be able to get the 16Gb for around $399 or so. Thus wouldn't pay much more for the 32Gb version.

In my experience with many android devices I've never had issue getting the lowest available internal. Have always used microSD to store files and moved apps when possible. My 10.5 and 8.4 both are 16Gb with 120Gb Sandisc uSDs. No issues whatsoever.
(BTW BB often has those uSDs at $99)

MicroSD is great for media files, but the number of apps that support move to SD is limited, so depending on your usage your mileage may vary. I am not saying that you will definitely run out of space if you get the 16 GB

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MicroSD is great for media files, but the number of apps that support move to SD is limited, so depending on your usage your mileage may vary. I am not saying that you will definitely run out of space if you get the 16 GB
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As mentioned, there are a number of utilities out there that will move the apps or large files from them to the SD card (folder mount, Directory Bind, latest apps2sd). I have over 50 games and apps running off my 64GB card. I will mentioned that I believe each of these utilities do require root, thus if you do not plan to root, your options will be limited and probably best to pursue the 32GB. However if you do plan on rooting, then 16GB should not be an issue. Can also remove the undesired apps as well, freeing even more space.

5.0.2 update will also help massively as fixes SD card issues of kitkat.

I hope so too.