Tethering help needed - Bluetooth access for all Apps or enable Ad Hoc Wifi - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I am looking for help to resolve basically the only issue I have not been able to figure out through these great forums or otherwise.
It seems that getting the tablet to work with an AdHoc network is not yet possible. I have seen comments stating that it may be possible through CyanogenMod. Can anybody confirm this? Or has another way been discovered to allow us to connect to AdHoc wifi networks?
Otherwise, does anybody know how to get ALL apps to recognize the Bluetooth internet connection? I have a Verizon phone running FoxFi and I am thethering via PdaNet Tablet when using Bluetooth; using FoxFi and stock wifi connection for wifi. Some apps will recognize the internet connection while others will not. Is there some way to point all apps to the Bluetooth internet connection?
Thank you in advance for your input.

jal301 said:
I am looking for help to resolve basically the only issue I have not been able to figure out through these great forums or otherwise.
It seems that getting the tablet to work with an AdHoc network is not yet possible. I have seen comments stating that it may be possible through CyanogenMod. Can anybody confirm this? Or has another way been discovered to allow us to connect to AdHoc wifi networks?
Otherwise, does anybody know how to get ALL apps to recognize the Bluetooth internet connection? I have a Verizon phone running FoxFi and I am thethering via PdaNet Tablet when using Bluetooth; using FoxFi and stock wifi connection for wifi. Some apps will recognize the internet connection while others will not. Is there some way to point all apps to the Bluetooth internet connection?
Thank you in advance for your input.
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you need to recompile the kernel to add ibss to the wifi driver and recompile wpa_supplicant to recognize ad-hoc.
If you don't want to do this, most versions of aokp/cm will have it working.
if you are using foxfi, you shouldn't need to worry about ad-hoc

sfhub said:
you need to recompile the kernel to add ibss to the wifi driver and recompile wpa_supplicant to recognize ad-hoc.
If you don't want to do this, most versions of aokp/cm will have it working.
if you are using foxfi, you shouldn't need to worry about ad-hoc
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I may be falsely assuming that it is an ad-hoc issue just due to what I have read from others commenting on the issue (re: your comment about FoxFi).
I am going to start by trying one of the more recent CM nightly releases (cm-10.2-20131105-NIGHTLY-flo) and do a little research to see what is involved in recompiling the kernel to add ibss to the wifi driver and recompile wpa_supplicant to recognize ad-hoc and respond back.
Thank you for the input!

jal301 said:
I am looking for help to resolve basically the only issue I have not been able to figure out through these great forums or otherwise.
It seems that getting the tablet to work with an AdHoc network is not yet possible. I have seen comments stating that it may be possible through CyanogenMod. Can anybody confirm this? Or has another way been discovered to allow us to connect to AdHoc wifi networks?
Otherwise, does anybody know how to get ALL apps to recognize the Bluetooth internet connection? I have a Verizon phone running FoxFi and I am thethering via PdaNet Tablet when using Bluetooth; using FoxFi and stock wifi connection for wifi. Some apps will recognize the internet connection while others will not. Is there some way to point all apps to the Bluetooth internet connection?
Thank you in advance for your input.
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Does Pdanet create a connection as a VPN or actual bluetooth tethering? If it's the former, there's the reason. I'm under the impression that apps will be able to properly understand a bluetooth internet connection (via bluetooth PAN I believe)

jal301 said:
I may be falsely assuming that it is an ad-hoc issue just due to what I have read from others commenting on the issue (re: your comment about FoxFi).
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When I tested FoxFi it acted as a regular Access Point so normal wifi was all that was needed to connect.
Usually it is the WiFi Tether for Root app that sets of the phone as an ad-hoc connection, forcing the tablets connecting to it to also have ad-hoc support.

OJ in Compton said:
Does Pdanet create a connection as a VPN or actual bluetooth tethering? If it's the former, there's the reason. I'm under the impression that apps will be able to properly understand a bluetooth internet connection (via bluetooth PAN I believe)
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I truly don't know the answer to this. Can you provide some instructions on testing this theory? I have tried the app Bluetooth Auto Connect and set the connection up with the phone as a PAN connection. I can pair the phone and my n7 together, but the stock Bluetooth manager never shows the two as 'Connected' versus other Bluetooth devices. Any suggestions?
sfhub said:
When I tested FoxFi it acted as a regular Access Point so normal wifi was all that was needed to connect.
Usually it is the WiFi Tether for Root app that sets of the phone as an ad-hoc connection, forcing the tablets connecting to it to also have ad-hoc support.
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Then I think it must be a limitation with the LG VS660 phone that I'm using.
The good news is that the installation of CyanogenMod worked! What would have been intermittent connectivity every 5 minutes or so has now been turned into a solid wifi connection. Apps that would have rarely worked on the wifi connection are now working with no problems.
However, I am still very interested in figuring out the Bluetooth connectivity option. For those who may not want / like to go the CM route, it would be nice to have a simpler solution. Plus, my wife has a stock 2012 n7 and I would like to be able to get hers connected without rooting it. Any input on how to accomplish this would be great!

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[Q] Tether wifi connection through phone to PC

Hello everyone,
I am currently at work, and they have their always fun hitler-esque blocking procedures on certain websites that shouldn't be blocked. The place I work at has an open Wifi network available to customers that doesn't block anything. So my question is.. Is it possible for me to connect to the Wifi here at work and then tether that connection through USB to the desktop that I'm currently using?
Thanks!
Ricky
Yes..it is possible. But you will need to disconnect the lan cable before you tether and might need to restart the browser on your desktop.
UndeadCircus said:
Hello everyone,
I am currently at work, and they have their always fun hitler-esque blocking procedures on certain websites that shouldn't be blocked. The place I work at has an open Wifi network available to customers that doesn't block anything. So my question is.. Is it possible for me to connect to the Wifi here at work and then tether that connection through USB to the desktop that I'm currently using?
Thanks!
Ricky
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Does your desktop have a wifi card?And you can use your phone as a wifi hotspot,if your rooted.
Will your company be able to tell if you were doing that from a company computer,don't they monitor the pc's,since they block websites from you?
All you have to do is turn on the wifi and connect the phone to the computer with a USB. Don't mount it as a disk drive. Now use a USB tether app from the market and bam!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Diablo67 said:
Does your desktop have a wifi card?And you can use your phone as a wifi hotspot,if your rooted.
Will your company be able to tell if you were doing that from a company computer,don't they monitor the pc's,since they block websites from you?
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not particularly but could be
anyways yes the evo way costs nothing but you could also maybe pick up a usb dongle? basically the same idea and doesnt tie up your phone just a thought
heh dongle
You can share the WiFi signal via USB. I have used PDANet before and it works fine, however, I have only used it with 3G. I am not sure if it will work with WiFi signal. Also, it entails having the PDANet software installed on the PC, which I am assuming is not a possibilty due to possible restrictions (seeing that youa re being restricted as it is). Doing a "usb tether" search on the market may provide other apps that may allow you to tether via USB without the need of having an application istalled on the PC as well.

[Q] KF can't connect to my phone's Wifi Hotspot?

I have an old Windows Mobile 6.5 phone (Touch Pro 2). I have an app that allows it to run as a wifi hotspot (install file is called mobilewifirouter.cab).
Other devices connect to the hotspot fine, but the kindle just doesn't see it... even when they're right next to each other. Otherwise the kindle wifi works ok.
Is there any way I can get this going? It's tedious having to constantly consider wifi availability when I'm travelling with it. Maybe the KF doesn't see anything using a very old 802.11 standard?
ad-hoc vs infrastructure
I think the issue is the phone itself. Or rather, the chip/radio only being able to broadcast on ad-hoc which the KF (and other new 'droid devices) doesn't support. I used the same wifi manager you did, same results...
I have a ATT Tilt 2, btw
I guess I have the same problem:
I'm trying to have my lg p500 (android 2.2.1) working as a wifi hotspot and access it from my galaxy tab (3.2) but I can't never "see" my network from it.
Other devices (laptop, nokia E71) can connect, but not the galaxy tab.
Galaxy tab can connect to other wifi networks, but not the one I create in my phone with "Wifi Thether" app.
Any workaround to fix this?
Thanks,
João
I think WM6.5 wifi router software uses Adhoc mode for wifi rather than infrastructure mode. Android cannot connect to adhoc wifi network unless you have a modified WPA supplicant file (which can make your android device unstable).
Kindle Fire and many smartphones/tables cannot connect to the internet via ad-hoc.
Use Connectify software to create a access point from your laptop.
It's a problem that is corrected easily, all you need is ZT-180 Adhoc Switcher. It works, VERY well.
king_xerxes said:
It's a problem that is corrected easily, all you need is ZT-180 Adhoc Switcher. It works, VERY well.
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If you are on Stock ROM and rooted, this is perfect
But, if you are on a CM9 ROM(unsure about others), there is no ad-hoc support yet...
Cl8rs said:
If you are on Stock ROM and rooted, this is perfect
But, if you are on a CM9 ROM(unsure about others), there is no ad-hoc support yet...
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He didn't really say if he was using stock or not. I just posted what I know works. If it is wrong for him/her, then I am wrong!
I tried the app on CM9 ROM's, it doesn't play friendly...
For anyone else who searched this thread and they're trying to connect to an android phone... just wanted to recommend FoxFi. I tried several other apps and they all failed (probably due to some quirk of the Kindle Fire's, everyone's recommending these apps). But FoxFi got the job done. But only if you run it without a password. If you're fed up trying to make the kindle connect to your phone, try it.
CreeDo said:
For anyone else who searched this thread and they're trying to connect to an android phone... just wanted to recommend FoxFi. I tried several other apps and they all failed (probably due to some quirk of the Kindle Fire's, everyone's recommending these apps). But FoxFi got the job done. But only if you run it without a password. If you're fed up trying to make the kindle connect to your phone, try it.
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the problem here is that KF running CM9 or CM10 cant connect to an adhoc wifi yet, not the problem of the phone.

[Q] ? about google codec wifi tethering app

I can get the wired usb tether to work fine but it seems to be slower. Using FoxFi but it seems to mess with my phone. I have NEVER gotten wifi tether to work, irregardless of my phone version or rom, so I was wondering what people have installed on both phone and comp that allows it to work. My wireless card enables ad-hoc so that doesn't seem to be the problem. I just want a simple wifi tether, not a hotspot because i don't want others to use it, that's what FoxFi is for when I have guests. I just want to get wifi tether to work to see if it works how I'm hoping it does. Any help is appreciated
Does your computer support Bluetooth? BLuetooth tethering sounds like it more like what you are looking for. I've honestly never heard of a "WiFi" tether outside of the hotspot usage.

Tethering WiFi with VPN

I have Private Internet Access as my VPN and I wanna use it on my phone to allow me to have a Wifi portable hotspot going through the VPN.... Only thing is, at the moment I am reliant on using my computers VPN applications which isnt ideal if the signal and connection to the VPN drops as I get taken offline and I have to turn cellular data on and off again to get it back up and running....
Any solutions? I have tried that tethering app from 2009 and that didnt work at all. Any ideas? Thanks!
JamerTheProgrammer said:
I have Private Internet Access as my VPN and I wanna use it on my phone to allow me to have a Wifi portable hotspot going through the VPN.... Only thing is, at the moment I am reliant on using my computers VPN applications which isnt ideal if the signal and connection to the VPN drops as I get taken offline and I have to turn cellular data on and off again to get it back up and running....
Any solutions? I have tried that tethering app from 2009 and that didnt work at all. Any ideas? Thanks!
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Unfortunately the stock Android tethering application does not work with VPNs. This limitation is an oversight in the software and not a system limitation.
However there is an application called ClockworkMod Tether that will allow you to tether and use a VPN at the same time. In fact it makes use of the standard tethering application and then fixes up the routing information to make it work.
This application does not require you to root your phone but you do need to run software on the computer that you wish to connect to your phone. Also this only works for USB tethering at the moment.
There are other alternatives to ClockworkMod Tether, if you wish to try them, including PDANet.
Hope it could help

WiFi sharing

Hi folk, is there a way to have WiFi sharing on our beloved device?
Is it a SW limitation, or HW that need device to be rooted or is it just impossible with this HW?
It seems P3* has it!!
Thank you
last_nooby said:
Hi folk, is there a way to have WiFi sharing on our beloved device?
Is it a SW limitation, or HW that need device to be rooted or is it just impossible with this HW?
It seems P3* has it!! Thank you
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Look under Wi-Fi preferences for "Wi-Fi Direct". Is it not there? I don't have my P2 handy or I would check myself...but it is there on the the P3. I've never used it before but I see other peers in my house available to connect.
I don't have WiFi at home (digital divide problem) so I need to use my P2XL as router and device both at same time. Eg. to use my device with Chromecast
last_nooby said:
I don't have WiFi at home (digital divide problem) so I need to use my P2XL as router and device both at same time. Eg. to use my device with Chromecast
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You asked about "Wi-Fi sharing" which is a different technology from using your phone as a hotspot where it uses your phone's cellular data to create a Wi-Fi hotspot your other devices can use. Is this what you are trying to accomplish? If so "tethering" is definitely an option IF your carrier and/or plan allow it. On many carriers it is plan-by-plan. If your plan is pre-pay it may not be available. There are ways to bypass the carrier tether checks but it requires root. Not sure if you can stream to Chromecast via tethering because I don't own one. Maybe someone else who does can confirm.
v12xke said:
You asked about "Wi-Fi sharing" which is a different technology from using your phone as a hotspot where it uses your phone's cellular data to create a Wi-Fi hotspot your other devices can use. Is this what you are trying to accomplish? If so "tethering" is definitely an option IF your carrier and/or plan allow it. On many carriers it is plan-by-plan. If your plan is pre-pay it may not be available. There are ways to bypass the carrier tether checks but it requires root. Not sure if you can stream to Chromecast via tethering because I don't own one. Maybe someone else who does can confirm.
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Specifically Chromecast needs WiFi and because I don't have it so I'm trying to simulate it throw WiFi sharing.
Tethering doesn't work unfortunately. Tried several times.
Because P3 allows WiFi sharing I thought it was possible in P2 too (but honestly no idea if it's HW or SW).
Ps: my phone is rooted.
last_nooby said:
Specifically Chromecast needs WiFi and because I don't have it so I'm trying to simulate it throw WiFi sharing.
Tethering doesn't work unfortunately. Tried several times.
Because P3 allows WiFi sharing I thought it was possible in P2 too (but honestly no idea if it's HW or SW).
Ps: my phone is rooted.
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WiFi-Hotspot allows all your other devices to connect to the Internet by sharing your phone's mobile data; while WiFi-Sharing achieves that by sharing your phone's WiFi connection. Since you do not have Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi sharing is not an option for you, regardless of which Pixel you have. There are many tethering guides on how to modify your build.prop to bypass your carrier's tether checks. Which carrier are you on, and is it a pre-paid or post-paid plan? As your phone is rooted, you may also want to search XDA for enabling tethering depending on your specific carrier/plan. Best of luck! :good:
last_nooby said:
I don't have WiFi at home (digital divide problem) so I need to use my P2XL as router and device both at same time. Eg. to use my device with Chromecast
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I do this exact same thing you are describing via tethering. I make my Pixel 2XL a hotspot, then connect chromecast to it. Then I can stream things from the same Pixel 2XL to the chromecast. The key is getting tethering to work.
beezar said:
I do this exact same thing you are describing via tethering. I make my Pixel 2XL a hotspot, then connect chromecast to it. Then I can stream things from the same Pixel 2XL to the chromecast. The key is getting tethering to work.
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Sorry beezar but I did it tons of times and never worked.
Do you set something special?
last_nooby said:
Sorry beezar but I did it tons of times and never worked.
Do you set something special?
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"There are many tethering guides on how to modify your build.prop to bypass your carrier's tether checks. Which carrier are you on, and is it a pre-paid or post-paid plan? As your phone is rooted, you may also want to search XDA for enabling tethering depending on your specific carrier/plan."
v12xke said:
"There are many tethering guides on how to modify your build.prop to bypass your carrier's tether checks. Which carrier are you on, and is it a pre-paid or post-paid plan? As your phone is rooted, you may also want to search XDA for enabling tethering depending on your specific carrier/plan."
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Vodafone pre-paid v12xke
I'll looking for it, thank you. Anyway I don't have problem about Vodafone checks, instead I can't connect to my Chromecast ultra without WiFi. That's it
last_nooby said:
Vodafone pre-paid v12xke
I'll looking for it, thank you. Anyway I don't have problem about Vodafone checks, instead I can't connect to my Chromecast ultra without WiFi. That's it
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If you cannot enable and setup a Wi-Fi hotspot on your phone you DO have Vodafone tethering checks. It is Vodafone blocking you from using the tether function! The tethering function on your phone will use the phone's Wi-Fi radio to create a Wi-Fi hotspot and then you will have Wi-Fi to share with your other devices. You can do simple edit of your build.prop to bypass the restriction. If you are rooted, you likely have Magisk installed and there should still be a working tethering module that will do the job for you.
v12xke said:
If you cannot enable and setup a Wi-Fi hotspot on your phone you DO have Vodafone tethering checks. It is Vodafone blocking you from using the tether function! The tethering function on your phone will use the phone's Wi-Fi radio to create a Wi-Fi hotspot and then you will have Wi-Fi to share with your other devices. You can do simple edit of your build.prop to bypass the restriction. If you are rooted, you likely have Magisk installed and there should still be a working tethering module that will do the job for you.
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Ok suppose I've created WiFi hotspot and I'm sharing my WiFi with Chromecast, so how can also connect my phone to Chromecast if my phone is busy simulating WiFi router with Chromecast?
Here the graphics:
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Chromecast --> router <-- phone
So Chromecast and my phone can communicate throw the same router, right?
Ok now I simulate router using tethering on my phone:
Chromecast --> phone
At this point my phone is busy being router for Chromecast!! I should use another WiFi in same my phone to connect it to Chromecast! Make sense?
last_nooby said:
Ok suppose I've created WiFi hotspot and I'm sharing my WiFi with Chromecast, so how can also connect my phone to Chromecast if my phone is busy simulating WiFi router with Chromecast?
Here the graphics:
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Chromecast --> router <-- phone
So Chromecast and my phone can communicate throw the same router, right?
Ok now I simulate router using tethering on my phone:
Chromecast --> phone
At this point my phone is busy being router for Chromecast!! I should use another WiFi in same my phone to connect it to Chromecast! Make sense?
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Thanks for the "graphics". Suppose you did not read post #7 in your own thread, and suppose you haven't successfully created a Wi-Fi Hotspot yet? Best of luck. Out.
last_nooby said:
Ok suppose I've created WiFi hotspot and I'm sharing my WiFi with Chromecast, so how can also connect my phone to Chromecast if my phone is busy simulating WiFi router with Chromecast?
Here the graphics:
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Chromecast --> router <-- phone
So Chromecast and my phone can communicate throw the same router, right?
Ok now I simulate router using tethering on my phone:
Chromecast --> phone
At this point my phone is busy being router for Chromecast!! I should use another WiFi in same my phone to connect it to Chromecast! Make sense?
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I think one thing you are misunderstanding is that if you use your phone as a "hotspot" -- essentially you are making your phone a modem & router -- then wifi is actually forcefully turned off; therefore using any data connection other than the device's own (connection) is impossible [like another router/modem or data line]. Anyone who has successfully ran the device as a hotspot can attest to this...
I mean, it kinda makes sense... If the device has to receive a wifi signal, process the data throughout the internet, and send the corresponding data through the same wifi signal, then it'd be too busy & impossible for it to also be connecting the same wifi signal to send and receive to another source. As technology is now, it'd be crazy for a smartphone to have and employ more than 1 wifi radio or multiple wifi radios...There's really simply no need for it (right now at least...).
Hope this clears a little up....
simplepinoi177 said:
I think one thing you are misunderstanding is that if you use your phone as a "hotspot" -- essentially you are making your phone a modem & router -- then wifi is actually forcefully turned off; therefore using any data connection other than the device's own (connection) is impossible [like another router/modem or data line]. Anyone who has successfully ran the device as a hotspot can attest to this...
I mean, it kinda makes sense... If the device has to receive a wifi signal, process the data throughout the internet, and send the corresponding data through the same wifi signal, then it'd be too busy & impossible for it to also be connecting the same wifi signal to send and receive to another source. As technology is now, it'd be crazy for a smartphone to have and employ more than 1 wifi radio or multiple wifi radios...There's really simply no need for it (right now at least...).
Hope this clears a little up....
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Thank you very much simplepinoi177!! Now I understand..?
So no chance to use Chromecast without WiFi.
I'll put on sell.
Thank you and Merry Christmas!!

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