So some of you may know that today (11/14/13) ISIS went live nationally in the US. I popped into one of T-Mobile's many fine stores and replaced my sim card with a secure element sim card that will allow you to use ISIS. Well long story short I installed the google wallet app to find to my surprise that it worked! Check out the pictures below.
You can access Google Wallet (Thanks to PhantomRampage for correcting me)
Tap to pay does not work from what I see however if you have used it in the past and added your credit cards,
your cards will still exist. Someone will need to test this to see if maybe it could work regardless and if not then
maybe a patched .apk could be created to allow tap to pay?
This method might work on AT&T and Verizon phones as well (with an ISIS sim card)
Everyone can install the app from the market now, but only 'supported' devices can use the tap and pay function. Check to see if that option is available to you. Probably isn't.
PhantomRampage said:
Everyone can install the app from the market now, but only 'supported' devices can use the tap and pay function. Check to see if that option is available to you. Probably isn't.
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Exactly. Everyone can install Wallet now, even non-NFC phones. They only enable the tap to pay and NFC functionality if the phone is "supported". If you want the tap to pay, I believe you still still have to mod it. I was using the framework mod and the build prop mod to get it to work. Pretty simple.
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This is really a JFYI thread as couldn't see one, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810118 has the latest wallet api, and guide. All seems to be working here for me, so might be worth a go for those wanting to try.
Even got a UK visa debit card registered with the system, althought to be fair, not tried to use it yet (McD for breaky)
http://p.twimg.com/AzVWyttCUAAfgjX.png
Quick notes, remember to have NFC enabled, and to change the build.prop and then reboot before running the app for the first time.ni just used es file in root mode for everything, bu use whatever apps you feel comfy with I suppose.
even though it recognizes our cards, being in the UK doesnt allow us to complete the setup process using these cards... hopefully Google address this in the near future.
fbloise said:
even though it recognizes our cards, being in the UK doesnt allow us to complete the setup process using these cards... hopefully Google address this in the near future.
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Works fine for me... UK Card registered and enabled just fine!
However it's worth noting that McDonalds wouldn't accept it, payment declined, perhaps because Google wasn't allowed to debit the card. oh well...
Also using the same details to add funds to the Google Card does not work either.
the_ape said:
Works fine for me... UK Card registered and enabled just fine!
However it's worth noting that McDonalds wouldn't accept it, payment declined, perhaps because Google wasn't allowed to debit the card. oh well...
Also using the same details to add funds to the Google Card does not work either.
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Had a thought (well someone else did), you can go and change the address to a UK one by going into wallet.google.com and changing it there.
Done it, will try later. Unless I'm beaten to it...
Ok this works...didn't try adding a card though. It detected the card I had associated with my Google Account but I need a US address to activate it. So...bummer.
At least I can use the Google Prepaid Card.
I have the door lock and have some NFC stickers which work great
I have the Note and am trying to figure out how to use it with the door lock, but i cant get it to work i have NFC on and downloaded some apps
I put the Ezon in setup mode and the stickers register fine but not the phone, so im sure something is not right, but have no idea which
Won't work..
xboxhaxorz said:
I have the door lock and have some NFC stickers which work great
I have the Note and am trying to figure out how to use it with the door lock, but i cant get it to work i have NFC on and downloaded some apps
I put the Ezon in setup mode and the stickers register fine but not the phone, so im sure something is not right, but have no idea which
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As I understand it, the only way to get your phone to unlock the Samsung Ezon is to be using Google Wallet and use the Loyalty Cards feature. I don't think the Note has Google Wallet so you might be out of luck. I have been trying to do the same thing for months now with a One X, One, S4 and Nexus to no avail.
from a google search I found this quote
your mobile phone to be your access key. This would then allow you to control when your card is active and when it is not. If you have an Android device that supports Google Wallet, you’re all set. The trick is to have Google Wallet installed with at least one “Loyalty Card” setup in the wallet, then make sure the card is enabled. Doing this enables NFC card emulation on your device which will present a UID to the EZon when it is within range. This type of card emulation is different from your payment information (so you don’t have to worry about the lock charging your bank account each time you unlock it). You can then enroll your phone just like a physical access card to the EZon and use your phone to unlock the device. The added benefit is that when your phone’s screen is turned off, card emulation is off as well which makes things a lot harder to tap and then clone.
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I just installed my Ezon 6020 on saturday, and I havent been able to get it to detect me phone using the Commonwealth bank contactless app D:
it doesnt detect my usual credit cards either which surprised me...
did you find anything OP ?
any updates on this?
I installed CM11 on my N7100. Most of the things I'm finding online indicate since Android 4.4 uses host card emulation (HCE) instead of the secure element, any 4.4 ROM on any device should have Google Wallet's Tap and Pay feature enabled, but this doesn't seem to be the case. I haven't actually tried paying with my phone yet, but when I go into Google Wallet, there's no Tap and Pay Settings, so I'm pretty sure it's not working. Does anyone know why it's not working and what I can do about it?
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Am I the only person on the internet with this problem??
Seriously, I'm the only person with this issue??
no luck
Tahns said:
Seriously, I'm the only person with this issue??
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No luck with CM11 on tmo sg3.
Same issue here on M7spr running cm11 tried it at a store where I know works and no luck
Its working fine for me on ATT GS4. I just flashed the January 31 nightly and went and downloaded wallet from play store and it set it up on its own. No troubles at all for me yet with this ROM besides that the s-view cover does not work, but that's to be expected.
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You have to enable Tap & Pay within Google Wallet and make sure NFC is on. The Tap & Pay option in the settings menu only showed up on my phone after I did that.
I can't enable Tap & Pay within Google Wallet because it says "Not Available."
NFC is on. There's still no Tap & Pay option in the settings menu.
What device do you have?
1503
I have the same problem. I have a Verizon GS3 and it worked on CM10 up until they disabled devices running anything lower than 4.4. So I moved up to CM11 and my NFC is on. There isn't a "Tap & Pay Settings" option in the Wallet app anymore. And under the "Tap & Pay section in the main phone settings, Google Wallet is selected.
I found this over on the CM Forum.
For those of you who do not know what HCE is, it is what makes tap and pay work for apps such as Google Wallet when device is running Kitkat. Kitkat does not use secure element. Android 4.3 used secure element and that is why Google Wallet worked when running on Android Jellybean 4.3. I am quoting information below from another article i read.
"Tap and pay functionality is available in the US, and requires one of the following NFC-enabled Android devices with a Secure Element chip running 2.3 (Gingerbread) or higher on select carrier networks, or an NFC-enabled Android device running 4.4 (KitKat) or higher:
I read that as an either/or statement.. the second doesn't seem conditional to the first
EDIT: What they didn't tell us, according to Entropy512:
HCE support is missing from the AOSP stack for NXP NFC controllers. It only works on Broadcom (NCI) controllers. (Unless it was pushed as part of the android-4.4-r1.2 tag...)
So if you have a device with an NXP NFC controller - still no Wallet for you. If your device has the HCE permissions XML (this will only happen if someone made a mistake), Google Wallet will indicate that it's 100% ready for payment, but won't react at all to a payment terminal.
(Another option is if an OEM implements HCE for NXP chips even though it is missing from AOSP.)"
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As of today RBC Mobile in Canada now supports NFC payments with your Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rbc.mobile.android&hl=en
What's New
Mobile payment capabilities available for Bell Mobility NFC-enabled Samsung Galaxy S III‡ or Samsung Galaxy S4‡ smartphones. If you’re on Android OS 4.3+ or want additional information, go to http://goo.gl/lGzGgR
The RBC Wallet powered by RBC Secure CloudTM lets you add, manage and store your Client Card and Visa credit cards and be able to make payments.
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Setting up your RBC Wallet
-What do I need to start using the RBC Wallet?
Check out "Getting Started" under How to Use for details on setting up your RBC Wallet.
-What cards can I add to my RBC Wallet?
Currently you are able to add your eligible RBC Visa‡ credit cards and your Client Card (Interac‡ Debit) to your RBC Wallet. You will be able to add additional cards to the RBC Wallet in the future.
-Will I need a new SIM to use the RBC Wallet?
Yes, you will need to change your SIM card to a Bell NFC SIM card. Visit bell.ca/NFC for more information.
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Do I need to have a data connection in order to make a transaction?
Yes, a data connection is required to download the app, set-up your card information and use the application.
The RBC Wallet does not appear to be working for me. What do I do?
If you are experiencing technical problems with the RBC Wallet please call 1-800-769-2555. They will provide assistance to identify the potential problem.
I have installed the RBC Mobile app but I can't see my card in the RBC Wallet, what should I do?
If you do not see your card in the RBC Wallet it may not be eligible. You must have a personal RBC debit or credit card to use the RBC Wallet. To discuss, please call 1-800-769-2512.
Check out "Getting Started" under How to Use for the list of eligible credit cards.
I plan to cancel my smartphone service and I have the RBC Wallet on my smartphone, what should I do?
Before cancelling a smartphone service it is best to remove all credit cards from your RBC Wallet, disable your debit card, and uninstall the RBC Mobile app. If you have already cancelled your service you can remove cards by using a WiFi network.
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OK here is what they DONT TELL YOU!!
I called bell to ask if i have an NFC SIM. NO.
NO CANADIAN BELL USER HAS BEEN GIVEN AN NFC SIM WITH THEIR PHONE. YOU MUST GO TO BELL STORE TO GET A FREE SIM UPGRADE.
ALSO. the guy at bell said they have a notice from RBC telling users to go to:
http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/mobile/wallet/nfc-update/
and fill out the form, and an RBC agent will contact you and arrange a push update to your NFC SIM to enable RBC wallet to work.
I am running a SGS4 from bell running a 4.4.2 google edition rom (by danvdh), with build.prop edited back to my original model number from bell.
I just got back from the bell store and have my NFC sim installed. I have the new RBC app installed.
The new card option on first page of RBC app (seen in screenshots from RBC site) is not visible on my device.
I have filled out the form and am waiting for a call back, i imagine this push update will enable the missing button in RBC app.
will update with more information as it comes available.
ONE WEIRD THING...
since i installed my NFC SIM, my phone is telling me i have a voicemail that does not exist. wont go away.
TRusselo said:
As of today RBC Mobile in Canada now supports NFC payments with your Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rbc.mobile.android&hl=en
OK here is what they DONT TELL YOU!!
I called bell to ask if i have an NFC SIM. NO.
NO CANADIAN BELL USER HAS BEEN GIVEN AN NFC SIM WITH THEIR PHONE. YOU MUST GO TO BELL STORE TO GET A FREE SIM UPGRADE.
ALSO. the guy at bell said they have a notice from RBC telling users to go to:
http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/mobile/wallet/nfc-update/
and fill out the form, and an RBC agent will contact you and arrange a push update to your NFC SIM to enable RBC wallet to work.
I am running a SGS4 from bell running a 4.4.2 google edition rom (by danvdh), with build.prop edited back to my original model number from bell.
I just got back from the bell store and have my NFC sim installed. I have the new RBC app installed.
The new card option on first page of RBC app (seen in screenshots from RBC site) is not visible on my device.
I have filled out the form and am waiting for a call back, i imagine this push update will enable the missing button in RBC app.
will update with more information as it comes available.
ONE WEIRD THING...
since i installed my NFC SIM, my phone is telling me i have a voicemail that does not exist. wont go away.
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Great. I have RBC and would love this feature but I have a Nexus 5 and am on Telus. I tried the market changer and also the app to change the model of the phone but it didn't work. I would love someone to hack this thing. Why do they restrict it to a specific device and a specific network?
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Great. I have RBC and would love this feature but I have a Nexus 5 and am on Telus. I tried the market changer and also the app to change the model of the phone but it didn't work. I would love someone to hack this thing. Why do they restrict it to a specific device and a specific network?
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security, and controlled release. and the network has to support NFC sim cards and supply them for free.
also even with network change and device ID change, you have to fill out the form and have RBC push an update to your NFC Sim sercure element.
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Any updates on this? I have the NFC sim, RBC emailed me and said everything has been activated but the wallet menu doesn't appear in the app. I'm on a rooted GS4 with a custom 4.4 rom installed with bell. The only problem I can think of is my rom. After a month, can you update us on how things are going with this app?
really? just 2 posts up? working on rooted modded STOCK rom, could not get running on custom.
i know this is an old thread, seems like rbc took away the requirement to push an update to the sim, can the build prop be modded for a work around? thnaks
Just hearing of this, shame I'm on Telus and about to close my RBC account.
Good news that Google will replace Softcard, however, I just installed Wallet on my note 3 and there is no tap and pay. What is the point of switching from SoftCard with Tap and pay to Wallet without?
Does anyone know when/if google wallet will support tap and pay? Do I need a hack, like in the old days?
Has anyone got the note 3 to work with Wallet for tap and pay purposes?
Update: Called Google, They said that Wallet doesn't support the Secure Element in the Note 3, and cannot access the SE on the SIM that SoftCard used. So essentially, Google is turning off tap and pay access for all of us with non Sprint Note 3 phones. Google should at least replicate the functionality prior to turning it off. I thought the idea was to build up the tap and pay user base. By disabling softcard, they have actually reduced the tap and pay users. Very disappointing
It already does support it.
You need to have a valid card/bank account registered, NFC must be enabled and you must enable Tap and Pay in Settings.
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It already does support it.
You need to have a valid card/bank account registered, NFC must be enabled and you must enable Tap and Pay in Settings.
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I feel like a noob, but I've looked and can't find a tap-and-pay option in my settings.
You can enable the settings in smali. I don't know if they'll work or not though, as I could care less about tap & pay. I don't mind lifting my arm for the three and a half seconds it takes to swipe my card.
Thats the problem, no tap and pay option in wallet settings. I seem to recall the note 3 had a different secure element/nfc chip, and needed the isis sim to get around this. I fear wallet just will not work unless it is updated. Has anyone got this to work.
Stock rooted rom here, if that matters
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Thats the problem, no tap and pay option in wallet settings. I seem to recall the note 3 had a different secure element/nfc chip, and needed the isis sim to get around this. I fear wallet just will not work unless it is updated. Has anyone got this to work.
Stock rooted rom here, if that matters
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That might be it.
My Note 3 had a secure SIM from T-Mobile for Softcard, but Tap and Pay always worked for me with Google Wallet as well. Used it many times.
I have a Note 4 now and Tap and Pay works with GW there too... no secure SIM required.
hmmm
Morningstar said:
You can enable the settings in smali. I don't know if they'll work or not though, as I could care less about tap & pay. I don't mind lifting my arm for the three and a half seconds it takes to swipe my card.
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You could care less about tap and pay, why do you bother to participate in this thread with your dismissive comments? I do care that my phone has tap and pay. Don't be a ****.
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That might be it.
My Note 3 had a secure SIM from T-Mobile for Softcard, but Tap and Pay always worked for me with Google Wallet as well. Used it many times.
I have a Note 4 now and Tap and Pay works with GW there too... no secure SIM required.
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I just received lollypop, still no tap and pay. I uninstalled softcard and reinstalled wallet but tap and pay still isn't there. here's hoping google ill use the softcard functionality to update wallet to give us the tap and pay love. I'm glad its working for u, the rest of us are still in the card swipe stone age.
I wonder if Google already has a thread setup we can "star" for this issue...
tmobile note 3
rjohnstone said:
That might be it.
My Note 3 had a secure SIM from T-Mobile for Softcard, but Tap and Pay always worked for me with Google Wallet as well. Used it many times.
I have a Note 4 now and Tap and Pay works with GW there too... no secure SIM required.
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I have tried with the softcard sim and without and tap and pay doesn't pop up in Google wallet .... which note 3 did you have? Thought none of them would work because of the drivers for the nfc chip ....goggle couldn't get them so they just disabled it .....